I’ve just discovered the location of Hell

It’s on a plane, 30,000 feet in the air.

If I were on that plane, I’d be demanding my money back.


  1. Akira MacKenzie says

    “No, your honor, I swear the late gentleman repeatedly smashed his own head against the drink cart.”

  2. whheydt says

    Violation of FAA mask mandate. Hope the flight crew took down names and they’ll be getting fine notices (and Do Not Fly listing) in the mail…soon.

  3. mudpuddles says

    Assholes. I know that is highly uncharitable, but then so is presuming every passenger stuck on a plane with you will be pleased / moved / converted if you take over the flight with your own preferred brand of “entertainment”. Fucking assholes.

  4. PaulBC says

    They won’t allow an open tube of toothpaste and they allow that? That guitar needs to be stowed securely in the overhead compartment (whether it fits or not).

    (OK, all outta airplane humor… just kidding, I could go on… but I’ll shut up.)

    I assume this was a charter flight and not a rogue Christian busker.

  5. numerobis says

    That looks like a charter, so if you were on it, it’s because you chose it.

    Do the FAA rules apply to chartered flights?

  6. birgerjohansson says

    Imagine a charter flight where everyone has to listen to Giuliani, or to the My Pillow guy. “The data from the voting machines were electronically sent to Europe, where they were substituted for Biden votes”.

  7. drew says

    Either that’s a charter or xians have infiltrated the Air Marshalls, too. First the Air Force, now this!

  8. acdoylejr says

    No sympathy. It’s a planeload of Christo-fascists who obviously paid for the privilege and know the words. They deserve the Hell of their own making.

  9. Akira MacKenzie says

    “No, your honor, I don’t know how his guitar was rammed into his rectum.”

  10. mandrake says

    I would be a lot more impressed with these Christian youts if they got this level of crowd participation on an El Al or Emirates flight.

  11. PaulBC says

    I think if I stole the guitar and could actually play it, I would go for something mellow like Donovan’s “First there is a mountain” (and had a Scottish accent like Donovan’s) You can definitely clap and respond like they do in the background in this recording. It’s vaguely Buddhist and very hippie dippie. Personally I love it, but it’s the sort of thing evangelicals would probably hate.

  12. StevoR says

    Actually, Hell is on the Moon – specifically it is a lunar crater named after a jesuit priest and astronomer located inside the older Deslandres crater located south east of Mare Numbium or the Sea of Clouds.




    Hell is also a community in Michigan, a Californian ghost town and a patch of spiky black limestone in the West Bay district of Grand Cayman island. (See : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell,_Grand_Cayman & Hell dismabiguation wikipedia page.)

  13. PaulBC says

    And don’t forget about Bumpass Hell, which has got to be the best name for anything I have ever heard and an especially appropriate one for these sulfur springs. Careful about bumping asses though. If you fall in the hot springs, you can be injured severely. Old Bumpass himself lost a leg that way.

  14. John Morales says


    Careful about bumping asses though.

    That’s no worry. Passing through the bum, now that’s a worry.

  15. John Morales says

    Huh. I just watched the video bit.

    Had I been there, I’d likely have expressed my opinion about those antics. Annoyingly.

    (I think I could annoy that person much more than they could annoy me; if not, I’d at least try damn hard ;) )

  16. KG says

    From the linked thread:

    For some context, this cult, “Kingdom Realm Ministries,” is led by the Tik Tok poster, Jack Jensz, who labeled it: WE’RE TAKING OVER THIS FLIGHT FOR JESUS. It was a CONCERT of many “songs,” and they’re known for this crap.

    So if this tweet is correct, not a charter flight. The cult “Kingdom Realm Ministries” certainly seems to exist.

  17. wzrd1 says

    On an airplane that has rear air stairs, I think that I’d be testing the Cooper vane.
    If the device fails, the annoying creature with the guitar would get to serenade any angles he sees on the way down – especially obtuse ones.
    If the device works, lock him up in the tailcone. Decompression shouldn’t impact most present on that flight, as from their maskless states, they’re advertising to one and all their brainless state.

    The Cooper vane is a device added to airplanes that have rear air stairs to prevent opening the air stairs while in flight, as D.B. Cooper did.

  18. Ada Christine says

    Regardless of the subject matter of the music, it’s wildly antisocial behavior to pull out a guitar and start playing for a captive audience with absolutely nowhere to go.

  19. PaulBC says

    Ada Christine@29 A little over 25 years ago, and I’m going to say it was on a train from Docklands to Heathrow airport though I have only the vaguest memory of why I was making that trip, a busker got on and it really pissed me off. They were smug and cheerful and tried to be cute, even attempting to ingratiate themselves with any Americans on board. I just kept quiet and ignored them.

    I am not sure if this was normal or allowed by law in the UK at the time. You would definitely not get away with it anywhere I have lived in the US. I am totally accepting of people living in homeless encampments, or people asking for money on the street, people playing music discreetly on a street corner (if they’re good it can enhance the atmosphere). But when everyone is stuck in an enclosed vehicle, it’s a completely different story. Also, I would have a little more sympathy but I didn’t get the impression that this was someone living on the edge of survival. It was pure exploitation.

  20. whheydt says

    NBC News picked up the story. They have a sort of poll with the article. Lot’s of unfavorable ratings on the activity. which is rather cheering. The also cover Rep. Ilhan’s reaction and the backlash to it, then noted that that just goes to prove the point that Christianity is seen to hold a privileged position.

  21. eveningchaos says

    This is where I put on my noise cancelling headphones and put on some Black Metal to try to bring some balance to the universe.

  22. PaulBC says

    whheydt@33 I saw the headline about Rep. Ilhan Omar “voicing outrage over Easter worship on plane” and didn’t make the connection. Of course she’s exactly right. If someone started shouting “Allahu Akbar!” they would be treated very differently, though it’s an expression of praise: “God is great!”.

    Personally, I don’t think any interruption should be tolerated on an airplane in flight. First off, a lot of people are just tired and want to get through with the least disruption. Second, there is always a risk of hijacking and the more people deviate from the script (stay in your seats, seatbelt fastened, use the restroom if needed but don’t block the narrow aisle), the more risk there is that they can carry out some kind of attack.

    I have no idea why some idiot is playing the guitar, nor does the content of their performance matter. They had just better stop, and I hope TSA can deal with them when the plane lands.