Just for my personal edification – is there some specific reason Trump attacking children is newsworthy (that I have missed), or is it a general reference to his threat to the U.S’s future, or, as I suspect, are we meant to see the child as a girl (with apparent pigtails) and it a comment on his specifically sexist behaviour and attitude?
fentexsays
Oh, never-mind – I found out; It probably refers to children being taken from parents at the border when they’re suspected of illegal entry.
gijoelsays
More to do with separating immigrant children from their parents.
Chris Capocciasays
It’s actually been brewing for a couple weeks now with Keith Burris, the opinion editor, refusing to print an unprecedented 19 cartoons because of the misguided view that an editorial cartoonist is supposed to mirror the political positions of the newspaper and its publisher https://www.pennlive.com/opinion/2018/06/why_is_the_post-gazette_taking.html
Chris Capocciasays
@fentex , not so much “suspected of illegal entry”. the usual thing that happens is people enter and turn themselves in to start the refugee appeal process
Precisely. They are following the established rules, and running into Trump’s policy (which he lies and claims is a “law” “passed by Democrats”) of arresting the parents and taking the children away.
Times like this, I do sort of wish there was a Hell.
Rob Rogers continues to be available over at GoComics, by the way, in the form of his excellent cartoons. Highly recommended.
fentexsays
‘not so much “suspected of illegal entry”. the usual thing that happens is people enter and turn themselves in to start the refugee appeal process‘
Just so I’m clear on this – you say it isn’t about anything illegal but is being done to people arriving as refugees within the usual rules?
That it’s now a policy of the U.S to separate refugee children from their families as a matter of course?
Crip Dyke, Right Reverend Feminist FuckToy of Death & Her Handmaidensays
@Fentex: Yes. Exactly.
Don’t take that to mean that they aren’t also taking away the children of parents who cross illegally, but because we know that they’re taking away the children of parents who follow the lawful procedures for asylum claimants, it’s clear that the policy isn’t “about anything illegal”.
He’s taking away kids from law-abiding people suffering persecution in their home countries. He’s taking kids away from economic migrants who crossed without a visa. He’s just taking the kids away because he wants to take the kids away because he hates foreigners, and that’s enough.
Coming here legally is no barrier to Trump stealing your children.
DrVanNostrandsays
@Fentex
One of the first cases filed by the ACLU was a woman who arrived at a port of entry in San Diego and presented herself to the authorities to apply for asylum. She was immediately detained and her daughter was shipped to a detention facility 2000 miles away. Cruel and unusual barely even begins to describe the injustice.
I can’t fathom why anyone would be annoyed about this. That is literally the stated goal of the program – deterrence through bureaucratic terror and horror. “You want to keep your kids? Stay home.”
This is only satire in the sense that Trump isn’t doing it personally. That’s all.
indianajonessays
Has there been anything from the frozen stone fruit enthusiasts?
For the sake of those who may never have driven along Interstate highways in southern California (near San Diego), at least when I last did so (20 years ago?), there were in fact official signs posted along the road that looked very like the left 3/4 of the sign in the cartoon (i.e., two adults and one child, running to cross a highway).
jack16says
An important consideration is the addition of slaves to various portions of the U. S. incarceration system.
jack16
Phrenomythic Productionssays
SO MUCH FOR THE TOLERANT RIGHT!
Oh… wait…
David Marjanovićsays
Also, Jeff Sessions is Lawful Evil and has no qualms about using a theocratic argument to justify that. Links, extra analysis and a photo of the actual roadsign here.
Crip Dyke, Right Reverend Feminist FuckToy of Death & Her Handmaidensays
@David Marjanović
Holy Freud, David! I didn’t realize it was based on an actual highway sign. Thank you.
Walter Solomonsays
@ Crip Dyke
Here’s a Wiki article about what’s called an “immigration sign.”
fentex says
Just for my personal edification – is there some specific reason Trump attacking children is newsworthy (that I have missed), or is it a general reference to his threat to the U.S’s future, or, as I suspect, are we meant to see the child as a girl (with apparent pigtails) and it a comment on his specifically sexist behaviour and attitude?
fentex says
Oh, never-mind – I found out; It probably refers to children being taken from parents at the border when they’re suspected of illegal entry.
gijoel says
More to do with separating immigrant children from their parents.
Chris Capoccia says
It’s actually been brewing for a couple weeks now with Keith Burris, the opinion editor, refusing to print an unprecedented 19 cartoons because of the misguided view that an editorial cartoonist is supposed to mirror the political positions of the newspaper and its publisher https://www.pennlive.com/opinion/2018/06/why_is_the_post-gazette_taking.html
Chris Capoccia says
@fentex , not so much “suspected of illegal entry”. the usual thing that happens is people enter and turn themselves in to start the refugee appeal process
Kip T.W. says
Precisely. They are following the established rules, and running into Trump’s policy (which he lies and claims is a “law” “passed by Democrats”) of arresting the parents and taking the children away.
Times like this, I do sort of wish there was a Hell.
Kip T.W. says
Rob Rogers continues to be available over at GoComics, by the way, in the form of his excellent cartoons. Highly recommended.
fentex says
‘not so much “suspected of illegal entry”. the usual thing that happens is people enter and turn themselves in to start the refugee appeal process‘
Just so I’m clear on this – you say it isn’t about anything illegal but is being done to people arriving as refugees within the usual rules?
That it’s now a policy of the U.S to separate refugee children from their families as a matter of course?
Crip Dyke, Right Reverend Feminist FuckToy of Death & Her Handmaiden says
@Fentex: Yes. Exactly.
Don’t take that to mean that they aren’t also taking away the children of parents who cross illegally, but because we know that they’re taking away the children of parents who follow the lawful procedures for asylum claimants, it’s clear that the policy isn’t “about anything illegal”.
He’s taking away kids from law-abiding people suffering persecution in their home countries. He’s taking kids away from economic migrants who crossed without a visa. He’s just taking the kids away because he wants to take the kids away because he hates foreigners, and that’s enough.
Coming here legally is no barrier to Trump stealing your children.
DrVanNostrand says
@Fentex
One of the first cases filed by the ACLU was a woman who arrived at a port of entry in San Diego and presented herself to the authorities to apply for asylum. She was immediately detained and her daughter was shipped to a detention facility 2000 miles away. Cruel and unusual barely even begins to describe the injustice.
https://www.aclu.org/blog/immigrants-rights/deportation-and-due-process/mother-and-child-fled-congo-only-be-cruelly
Muz says
Political correctness gone mad yet again!
I can’t fathom why anyone would be annoyed about this. That is literally the stated goal of the program – deterrence through bureaucratic terror and horror. “You want to keep your kids? Stay home.”
This is only satire in the sense that Trump isn’t doing it personally. That’s all.
indianajones says
Has there been anything from the frozen stone fruit enthusiasts?
slithey tove (twas brillig (stevem)) says
Apparently doing it to extort funding The Wall
http://bipartisanreport.com/2018/06/15/trump-confronted-for-separating-familes-at-border-what-he-said-will-make-you-sick/
leerudolph says
For the sake of those who may never have driven along Interstate highways in southern California (near San Diego), at least when I last did so (20 years ago?), there were in fact official signs posted along the road that looked very like the left 3/4 of the sign in the cartoon (i.e., two adults and one child, running to cross a highway).
jack16 says
An important consideration is the addition of slaves to various portions of the U. S. incarceration system.
jack16
Phrenomythic Productions says
SO MUCH FOR THE TOLERANT RIGHT!
Oh… wait…
David Marjanović says
Also, Jeff Sessions is Lawful Evil and has no qualms about using a theocratic argument to justify that. Links, extra analysis and a photo of the actual roadsign here.
Crip Dyke, Right Reverend Feminist FuckToy of Death & Her Handmaiden says
@David Marjanović
Holy Freud, David! I didn’t realize it was based on an actual highway sign. Thank you.
Walter Solomon says
@ Crip Dyke
Here’s a Wiki article about what’s called an “immigration sign.”