Hold the presses! Maybe Americans aren’t so cruel after all!

Some of them exhibit extreme Christian kindness and charity.

“You don’t believe that gay people should be stoned to death, do you?” Skylar asked.

“I believe the Bible puts the death penalty on it,” Powell replied. “Obviously, not by me or anybody in a regular society, obviously. I believe it’s the government’s job to execute criminals. I believe that the Bible says clearly that homosexuality is a criminal crime. It’s a crime. It’s one of the worst crimes ever.”

“Is that what you’re advocating for?” Skylar pressed. “That our government should stone gays to death to execute them?”

Powell took the opportunity to state that he believes in humane executions when it comes to gay people.

“By whatever means they execute people. And obviously, I believe in humane, you know, putting to death,” Powell replied.

Yeah. In ‘Murica, we don’t stone gays to death.

But wait! After we dehumanize them enough to plan to murder them, what’s the point of this “humane” nonsense? Won’t that get in the way of efficiency? I don’t think Powell has thought this through.


  1. jacksprocket says

    Nothing new about that attitude. The Catholic Church never executed any heretics, as apologists always point out. They merely checked that they were heretics, even giving them every opportunity to recant. If that didn’t work, they handed them over to the civil government, who were so duly shocked that they tied them to a post and set fire to them. Nothing to do with us holy men, mate!

    From Wikipedia:
    “According to historian Thomas Madden:

    The Inquisition was not born out of desire to crush diversity or oppress people; it was rather an attempt to stop unjust executions. Yes, you read that correctly. Heresy was a crime against the state. Roman law in the Code of Justinian made heresy a capital offense…”
    (original article https://www.nationalreview.com/2004/06/real-inquisition-thomas-f-madden/)

  2. nowamfound says

    that was all evasions and equivocations. and bullshit. the biggest sin here is the desire to stay quiet while others do the stoning.
    christians. ugh. repellent and repulse, full of fear and rage and hatred which they define as love.

  3. Dunc says

    After all, didn’t Jesus say “Let he who is without sin stand by and cheer while somebody else throws the first stone”? Well, something like that, anyway…

  4. slithey tove (twas brillig (stevem)) says

    Jimmy Carter said about this:

    Homosexuality was well known in the ancient world, well before Christ was born, and Jesus never said a word about homosexuality.
    In all of his teachings about multiple things — he never said that gay people should be condemned.
    — [emphasis added]

    While Carter is not a pastor, his Christian faith is quite devout.
    I’m sure we all know that this death to “sodomists”, is cherry picked from a single line of the OLD Testament, and is in no way a teaching of Christ himself.

  5. cartomancer says

    Who is this Powell fellow, and why ought we to listen to anything he says?

  6. Zeppelin says

    But remember, we mustn’t be rude to people like this, or they’ll turn extremist and it’ll be our fault. Ahem.

    Dear Mr. Powell, sir, I would appreciate it if you could see your way to reconsidering your stance re. murdering me and millions of other people in the name of your god :))) I’m sure we can meet in the middle! Maybe just kill half of us and put the rest in camps? How about regular near-fatal beatings? Let’s talk this out!

  7. says

    The weird thing is these same magas keep insisting on the “the right to bear arms” to defend a tyrannical government. If being LGBT+ ever became a capital crime in the US, I’d be all for them not going quietly into stoning stadiums.

  8. says


    People like this are emboldened and empowered. It precisely why the center-left for stricter gun control is utterly foolhardy and repugnant.

  9. emergence says

    Is this the same dipshit who said atheists don’t know “how to logic” because of video games, Harry Potter, and Coke?

    If it is, good to know he’s also a monstrous shithead.

  10. says

    Since he derives his morals from the Bible, he must also believe that people who pick up sticks on the sabbath should be stoned to death, and people with skin diseases driven into the desert to die. Or maybe he’s being selective?

  11. npb596 says

    This is the second time P.Z. has given this guy a platform to espouse his shitty views. Pharyngula has more viewers than Powell has subscribers. This is no better than freeze peach morons like Coyne, Harris and Peterson saying people should be allowed huge public forums to espouse literal nazism even though they allegedly don’t agree with it. If you have a problem with homosexuals, P.Z., come out and say it.

  12. Crip Dyke, Right Reverend Feminist FuckToy of Death & Her Handmaiden says

    If PZ has a problem with queers it’s the same problem I have: we aren’t running the White House.

  13. Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls says

    Crip Dyke #15

    If PZ has a problem with queers it’s the same problem I have: we aren’t running the White House.

    Amen. QFT

  14. naturalcynic says

    Stoning is supposed to be a community event held outside the city walls. It is not supposed to be a merciful death. Powell is a chickenshit hypocrite.

  15. npb596 says

    “If PZ has a problem with queers it’s the same problem I have”
    I’m not even going to read beyond this point. I don’t need to know what an admitted homophobe thinks. There is no “problem” with queers. We are people just like you.

  16. vucodlak says

    @ npb596, #19

    What’s remarkable is that you apparently didn’t read anything before that point, either. Like, say, the commenter’s name. “People just like you” indeed.

  17. says

    “If PZ has a problem with queers it’s the same problem I have: we aren’t running the White House.”

    This. Cishet folks have had their turn, we can’t possibly do worse!

  18. Cthulhu's Mum says

    Pretty sure npb596 is a literal and deliberate troll – I don’t think it’s *possible* to read “If PZ has a problem with queers it’s the same problem I have: we aren’t running the White House.”, comprehend the first part (including copying and pasting it), and stop yourself from reading the final 6 words.

    I’m going with npb596 is a homophobic troll who wants to ruin sjw’s days – and probably thinks it’s even better if it’s queer sjw’s that are suffering. (Yes, I’m new to commenting here, but I’ve been reading since it was on scienceblogs – I don’t recall seeing their ‘nym before)

  19. npb596 says

    I’m a troll because I don’t think there’s anything wrong with being queer? I’m homophobic because I’m explicitly supporting queers and admitting I myself am queer? Maybe you need to learn “how to logic” as PZ’s favorite preacher and shithead would say.

  20. chigau (違う) says

    You are really, really bad at this.
    You are not fooling anyone.

  21. methuseus says

    @Crip Dyke, WMDKitty, possibly others:

    If PZ has a problem with queers it’s the same problem I have: we aren’t running the White House.

    My only problem with this idea would be a fear for your safety; I would be extremely unsurprised if assassination attempts were much higher if non cishet (publicly at least) people were in charge of the government, especially if you were doing a better job of it than we were.

    That said, I’m ready to bow out. I know I could do a better job than some bigots in power now, but I also know I’d be horribly inadequate compared to people who actually know what they’re doing.

  22. davidc1 says

    Just another anti gay christian who thinks gays should be stoned ,any day now it will be reported that he was found in a motel room with another man .
    Then he will beg forgiveness .

  23. says

    I remember the good, old days, when we had real trolls. Now it’s just some guy hiding under a bridge.

  24. emergence says


    I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that this was all a misunderstanding.

    Crip Dyke is queer too. She was saying that PZ doesn’t actually have a problem with LGBT people, and that they should get positions in government.