Do you remember Janis Ian? I mainly recall her one hit song, “At Seventeen”, but as it turns out she’s also an advocate for LGBT rights and is a science fiction author. Sounds like the kind of person I could get along with.
Unfortunately, some people have a different opinion, like the schmuck who wrote a screed titled Degenerate Lesbian Jew Singer Janis Ian Blasts Trump for Not Inviting His Enemies to WH Party
. He’s mad because she criticizes Trump openly…another plus mark for Ian. Our schmuck, though…you should read his interpretation of “At Seventeen”.
Wikipedia reminds those who have forgotten that when Janis Ian was 14 in 1965 she had a hit song promoting the idea that white girls should be having sex with Negro males.
Actually, Janis Ian (born Janis FINK) eventually came to realize it wasn’t males that caught her eye, but females. She herself never married a Negro, although she did marry a white man before ending that marriage and “marrying” a woman.
As is central to the Jewish temperament, she’s not happy unless she’s being critical, while acting holier-than-thou.
In short, she’s a disgusting animal who would inspire any “Nazi” to scream, “Gas the kikes!”
Janis Ian’s response is wonderful. I think Degenerate Lesbian Jews must be very nice people, but shrieking white racist Nazis, not so much.
FWIW, I’m a Janis Ian fan, for both her music and her activism. She’s done much more music, and much more mature music, since her early days, and she’s been a champion of artists rights in respect to record companies as well as her LGBT work.
The world could use a lot more Degenerate Lesbian Jews.
I just like the image of her and her wife giggling over that article.
Schmuck opposes criticism like this (new allegations) :
“New details about ‘gross and dirty’ experience with president https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/three-trump-accusers-reveal-to-megyn-kelly-new-details-about-gross-and-dirty-experience-with-president/
Classy president with classy followers.
And her face book post is also in Spanish, so that should be Spanish Speaking Degenerate Lesbian Jew. ¡Vaya!
BTW do degenerate lesbian jews also have the superpower to cause boobquakes?
Or does she only have the jewish superpower of…I dunno…collect all her jewish-y Chi in one finger and blow up people’s heads by pointing at them?
Goddammit, i want girlfriends like that!
Hmmm…crypto-Mexican Jewish lesbians are attacking! We now have the outline of a B film. Throw in David and his aliens and we have a blockbuster.
Don Quijote, do not forget that Jewish lesbians have cupachabras as pets. Go, Janis!
The schmuck doesn’t even get the song right. “At Seventeen” is a “…commentary on society’s beauty standards, adolescent cruelty, the illusion of popularity, and teenage angst…” (per wikipedia.) “Society’s Child” is about interracial romance.
vavmonster, your comment is merely “true”.
You do not comprehend the sublime “truthiness” (to use a term invented by Stephen Colbert) of schmuck’s statement. The statement may not be “true” but it ‘ought’ to be. Therefore it is more than just “true”.
I’m another long-standing Janis fan. Where do I get my “Proud to be a Degenerate Lesbian Jew” T-shirt? It wouldn’t be accurate (except maybe the “degenerate” part) but that won’t bother me.
Degenerate Lesbian Jews sounds like a hell of a punk band. What’s better for a first single? “Christ Killing Blues”? “Scissor Me’ Timbers”? “Generation Degeneration”?
Hmm. Maybe just an all-woman cover of “Nazi Punks Fuck Off”.
woozy@13: Speaking of citing Wikipedia directly, this paragraph therefrom is interesting (in what has come to be a familiar and appalling way):
Luckily for me, though I remember Society’s Child from the radio, I never saw, heard, or read any of Cosby’s oeuvre (and didn’t watch the Smothers Brothers either—my loss), so I haven’t had to recalibrate any fondness for him these last few years, as so many people I know and like have had to: this sounds just like (what has turned out to be) the real him.
Have you always liked Chet Atkins, and want to like him even more? Read Janis Ian’s eulogy for him (Garrison Keillor pops up in a cameo as a villain).
https://www.janisian.com/reading/atkins.php
birgerjohansson, so that’s where all the buggers went.
Thank you for reminding me of Janis Ian. Lovely. I don’t think I ever heard “Society’s Child”, maybe it wasn’t as big in the UK.
Society’s Child and At Seventeen were good, but nothing beats Stars. When you’re 21 or 22 and have been going through the showbiz meat grinder for 7 or 8 years….
On her Facebook page, she posts Godzilla haikus, with illustrations. And descriptions of very funny conversations with her wife. Hilarious woman.
I know I shouldn’t expect any intellect from an actual nazi, but he seems to believe white people are a “species”.
I was delighted to read Janis Ian’s commentary on Chet Atkins. I’ve always enjoyed his music and it was good to hear that he was a decent guy as well. Like Ian initially did, I may have assumed that (being a Southerner) he may have been less enlightened in his viewpoints. I have to remind myself that not all Southerners are like Roy Moore.
The Wikipedia article was also revealing. I was never a Bill Cosby fan and this confirmed that he has always been a creep (quite apart from being a serial rapist).
cosby succeeded in direct proportion to how basically conventional he was and as has been born-out by his conventional morality and classic fall from grace.
Janis Ian is one of those voices from my youth that help me confront reality with some degree of grace and poise
uncle frogy
“so I haven’t had to recalibrate any fondness for him [Bill Cosby] these last few years, as so many people I know and like have had to”
Meh, it’s not that hard. I was a big fan of his comedy when I has a teenager. And I think objectively his comedy is still every bit as a good. Being funny doesn’t mean you are good guy, and there’s no law that says a rapist can’t tell a good joke.
Come to think of it, there’s no reason a comedian *should* be a nice guy. Cosby’s comedy was that of a guy at odds not quite understanding the world. It wasn’t the pointed wry observation of a deep person noting the subtleties of existence. It was that broad goofy comedy of a guy not understanding subtleties and insisting because he didn’t understand them they can’t really exist. Which… is a guy who may make me chuckle but not one I want to *like*.
So, meh, forty years ago a rapist made me laugh. I can calibrate my life and live with that.
Meanwhile… Janis Ian. I regret to say she had never been on my radar. I had heard of Seventeen and it was a touching and memorable song but not in the fore for me. And I hadn’t heard any of the others. My loss. She seems a smart and witty person and I’m sorry I hadn’t been more aware of her.
And, shit, Nazis and their surety in themselves really are depressing.
@zenlike, 20
He also seems to think that making calls for killing Jews in gas chambers coexists with being a “Nazi” and not just a Nazi. If anything the rhetorical skills are worse than the logical ones.
Janis Ian’s entire album ‘Between the Lines’ is wonderful music. It’s been a favorite since it came out in 1975, and I enjoy her Godzilla haiku’s on FB too. According to Wiki, she performed her hit single ‘At Seventeen’ on the very first episode of SNL. The song ‘Bright Lights And Promises’ was obviously missed by Mr. Nazi. “over-used and much abused, promises of delight. Honey would you care to spend the night?”
Is
entartete“degenerate” going to be their new term of abuse? They’d better be careful–the Nazis’ exhibit of Entartete Kunst was the most popular art exhibit ever up to that time….Not a very self-aware nazi. He just sprained my irony meter.
No, but they all give the same value of energy upon measurement :)
“Holier-than-thou”? It’s not hard to be holier than a Nazi.
@18 Yes, “Stars” is good, but “Present Company” is my favourite. “Between the Lines” had some good wallowing music for when I was getting divorced some years ago e.g. “Tea and Sympathy”. Another song that means a lot to me is “Under the Covers” – “under the covers is where you discover if your man is whole”. The kind of lyrics we degenerate lesbian Jews appreciate.
“Shrieking white racist Nazis” is the name of my new band.
Having an interracial couple as parents Society’s Child made a big impression on me. it still angers me and makes me cry.
Preachers of equality, think they believe it, then why won’t they just let us be?
At the end of the idiot’s “article” he posted a picture of Janis and Patricia, asking “are you guys jealous?” I thought “Yes, I’m jealous. I want a relationship like that.” But then I realized I have one where my wife loves me and I love her, so it just changed to think of how sweet they look together. Just because I’m not jealous doesn’t mean I think it’s a great picture though.