OMG! More deplatforming!


Online critics complained about the lineup at a conference. They couldn’t believe who had been taken seriously and invited to give a talk. And they managed to get the organizers to disinvite someone. Fie, you shout. For shame! What about open discussion and debate about the ideas? Unbelievable. How could they defile the principles of free speech and freedom of thought to reject Rock Star and Indiana Jones of the superfood universe?

That’s right. They disinvited David Avocado Wolfe.

Following an online backlash for hosting alternative health guru David “Avocado” Wolfe as a speaker at the annual Biohacker Summit in October, held this year in Finland, organisers announced that Wolfe has been removed from the conference lineup.

What a crime. But is it possible that some people are so unqualified, so repugnant, so wrong that they don’t deserve a speaking slot at a conference? Say it ain’t so. I was going to suggest Ken Ham as the keynote speaker of the Society for the Study of Evolution meetings next year.

What about Free Speeeeeeeeach-eeach-eeach-eeach?

Comments

  1. gijoel says

    I can’t imagine why they wouldn’t want someone who believes gravity is a conspiracy theory to their convention.

  2. says

    Following an online backlash for hosting alternative health guru David “Avocado” Wolfe as a speaker at the annual Biohacker Summit in October, held this year in Finland, organisers announced that Wolfe has been removed from the conference lineup.

    Wait until the Gigantic Steak Lobby* hears about this! Will they be deplatformed from cardiologists’ conferences?

    That’s parsed: (Gigantic Steak) Lobby not Gigantic (Steak Lobby)

  3. says

    Getting disinvited to the “Biohacker Summit” is kind of like being banned from a homeopathy or hollow earth conference. It’s either a badge of honor or a serious embarrassment depending on how it goes down.

  4. jahigginbotham says

    There have been a lot of posts and comments here about free speech/hate speech. It seems that many could benefit from reading about the history of free speech, Popehat has some information as does Simple Justice.
    -basement dwelling troll

  5. Ichthyic says

    Popehat has some information

    *looks*

    The Seductive Appeal of the “Nazi Exception”

    very first line:

    Yes, rights are important, and we must offer them generously. But surely we can agree that Nazis don’t have rights?

    so, when you start off with a simplistic strawman like this, I’m hardly tempted to bother reading further, and indeed, the article is full of BS and logical fallacies galore.

    Popehat must hide the good stuff behind all this bullshit?

  6. eddavies says

    Marcus Ranum #2: “That’s parsed: (Gigantic Steak) Lobby…”.

    That’s one of the uses of hyphens: write “Giant-Steak Lobby” to make your meaning clear. See 6.39 in: https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/11570/to-hyphenate-or-not#answer-11622

    The view of many style guides these days is to omit such hyphens when there’s no ambiguity. E.g., 6.41 in the above answer and the Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/guardian-observer-style-guide-h

    “There is no need to use hyphens with most compound adjectives, where the meaning is clear and unambiguous without: civil rights movement, financial services sector, work inspection powers, etc. Hyphens should, however, be used to form short compound adjectives, eg two-tonne vessel, three-year deal, 19th-century artist. Also use hyphens where not using one would be ambiguous, eg to distinguish “black-cab drivers come under attack” from “black cab-drivers come under attack”. A missing hyphen in a review of Chekhov’s Three Sisters led us to refer to “the servant abusing Natasha”, rather than “the servant-abusing Natasha”.”

    If in doubt I’d include the hyphen, though, to avoid the reader having to go back and re-parse when they’ve read enough of the sentence to realize that their first guess at the meaning was wrong.

  7. cartomancer says

    I thought deplatforming was what fashion-conscious people had to do at the end of the 70s when flatter shoes came back into style.

  8. Artor says

    Ichthyic, you might want to calibrate your sarcasm meter and read a little further in the Popehat article. If you dismiss articles after reading only the first line, you may be missing out on a lot of cogent analysis.

  9. ColonelZen says

    New acronym for elite universities and other organizations, e. g. NYT: LIPO. Liberal in Pretension Only.

    Meaning, of course, fake liberal as an excuse to shift the window further to the conservative side.

    Sheesh.

  10. blf says

    [Y]ou might want to calibrate your sarcasm meter and read a little further in the Popehat article. If you dismiss articles after reading only the first line, you may be missing out on a lot of cogent analysis.

    Indeed. From that Popehat post, The Seductive Appeal of the “Nazi Exception” (all emphasis in the original):

    […]
    First, the argument relies on a false premise: that we don’t, or shouldn’t, extend rights to people who wouldn’t extend those rights to us. This is childish nonsense, and a common argument for tyranny. […]

    In fact, we extend rights to everyone, regardless of whether they support those rights or not. That’s the deal, it’s the way rights work. Rights arise from our status as humans, not from our adherence to ideology. If they didn’t, I could very plausibly say this: Pomona College, Wellesley College, and Berkeley should expel the students quoted above, because people actively advocating to limit free speech rights can’t expect any free speech rights themselves.

    Second, the “Nazi Exception” is not safe or principled because it’s applied by humans, and humans are ridiculous and awful. Look, we already have exceptions to the First Amendment for dangerous speech: the doctrine of true threats (which allows punishing threats meant to cause fear and objectively reasonably causing fear) and incitement (which allows punishing speech aimed at provoking imminent lawless action). Those exceptions are narrow and well-defined […]

    […]

    Third, these students are pursuing useful idiocy in the guise of safety. Exceptions to free speech don’t get used to help the powerless. They get used to help the powerful. We see that in the case of blasphemy laws: imagined by some on the Left as a measure of respect for a multicultural society, actually primarily used to oppress religious and ethnic minorities and the powerless. […]

    […]

    The “Nazi exception” is unprincipled, self-indulgent, and childish. Nazis and their admirers and fellow travellers ought to be called out, ridiculed, condemned, and exposed to the full array of consequences the First Amendment offers. They ought to face criminal and civil sanctions if they break the law. But I decline the invitation to help these students destroy the village in order to save it.

    Whilst one might disagree with Popehat’s rhetorical approach, or perhaps some of the claims, arguments, or examples, blindly asserting the very opposite of what is actually said is at the least intellectually dishonest.

  11. KG says

    Artor@8, blf@10,

    I think Ichthyic understood exactly what Popehat is getting at from the first line, and rightly dismissed the article as simplistic crap.

  12. jahigginbotham says

    Ichthyic and KG: Just curious – what background and study do you have in law?
    How does one get to be an expert in who deserves the Heckler’s Veto?
    Two sentences read would only be enough for someone who knows it all – oh, excuse me.

  13. jahigginbotham says

    @13chigau – Older than the number of points Kobe scored in his last game. That’s kind of why it’s fun/disheartening to read many of the fatuous comments here, presumably by kids who will someday mature.

  14. KG says

    jahigginbotham@4,12,14,

    I notice you have no actual arguments to put forward, just facile insults. Not surprising perhaps, as you self-identify as a basement-dwelling troll. Popehat, and you, might like to consider that there are numerous countries in which restrictions on hate speech exist, and which nevertheless have not degenerated into tyrannies (I live in one of them). But Popehat and you appear to suffer from OWHITUSAC* syndrome. There are serious arguments both for and against such laws, and for and against institutions such as universities restricting who they give platforms to speak, but simply asserting that arguments for any such restrictions are “childish nonsense”, is itself lackwitted garbage, typical of self-styled “libertarians”. You, and Popehat, might also like to consider that hate speech which is allowable under US law can have – and is undoubtedly intended to have – the effect of terrorising its targets and thus curtailing their rights to free speech, as well as their right not to be terrorised. But clearly Popehat, and you, don’t give a shit about that.

    *Only What Happens In The USA Counts