Would you believe Bill Maher is claiming credit for putting the brakes on the Milo train? Of course you would. His ego is just that big.
Given all that has transpired since Friday’s show, how do you feel now about your decision to have Milo Yiannopoulos as a guest, and how those segments transpired?
Well, let’s recap. About a week ago, I went on Van Jones’s show, and somebody asked me about the booking. I hadn’t really gotten into the details of M1l0 yet. He was just getting on my radar. I said, specifically, sunlight is the best disinfectant. Then we had M1l0 on, despite the fact that many people said, “Oh, how dare you give a platform to this man.” What I think people saw was an emotionally needy Ann Coulter wannabe, trying to make a buck off of the left’s propensity for outrage. And by the end of the weekend, by dinnertime Monday, he’s dropped as a speaker at CPAC. Then he’s dropped by Breitbart, and his book deal falls through. As I say, sunlight is the best disinfectant. You’re welcome.
Jebus. Maher gave a softball interview in which he called Yiannopoulos not unreasonable
for thinking transgender women were just crashing bathrooms to rape people — he’s one of the Yiannopoulos enablers. You don’t get credit for knocking someone off a pedestal when you’re one of the people who put him up there.
We are in sync again. My title is considerably ruder.
While we’re taking credit for shit we didn’t do, can I be awarded somebody’s Nobel Prize? I don’t really care whose. I’ll take Obama’s.
I’m not sure it’s a pedestal in his case. More like an accretion of excreted self-regard that has congealed underneath him and raised him up a few feet.
Didn’t really work on Trump, did it?
And marijuana is a powerful hallucinogen.
Sighhh
Maher is just lending credence to Milo’s whiny bullshit that it’s all a liberal media conspiracy against him. Thanks, Bill, you jackass.
I want to like Maher , I really do , (mostly because I watch his show) , but it is not easy .
Sven:
The conspiracy crowd has been coming up with some right howlers, most of them centering on the nefarious Deep State, which has now replaced the Illumanti, it seems.
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/milo-yiannopoulos-far-right-fans-think-spy-agencies-took-him-out-because-he-was-too-powerful/
essexgreen: you can quit any time you want. Really.
The interview Maher did that put me off the most from him was, oddly, his interview with Jason Box:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKVZNLx45WY
It’s an easy interview; Box is smart and affable and politically friendly, talking about an approachable subject (“global warming melts ice” is a damn simple message). But Maher hasn’t prepared *anything*.
Terry Gross or Piya Chattopadhyay or Anna-Maria Tremonti would have questions to drive the interviewee to spell out why his work is interesting and why it matters for the audience. Ira Glass would have worked out some bizarre set of circumstances in his childhood that inevitably and hilariously caused Box to end up crowdsourcing funding for research on snow in Greenland.
Maher goes huk-huk-huk global warming deniers.
Why waste your time watching his show? He’s an idiot.
At least Larry Wilmore gave Yiannopoulos some pushback. Yiannopoulos said something about thinking transgender being a mental disorder. The irony of Yiannopoulos being gay and homosexuality being classed as a mental disorder in the past seemed to fly right over his head.
Maher started to lose me way back on his Politically Incorrect show. Some know-nothing laughed at the idea of the Big Bang and Maher agreed that those scientists are a bunch of idiots.
Sunlight might be a good disinfectant, but it takes a spray of Raid to kill a cockroach.
Too bad Larry Wilmore only sprayed one of the roaches on that show.
Now we just need to hear from Scott Adams.
Dose and duration matter; one or both is obviously, to-date, insufficient.
I agree that sunlight is (for the purposes of this analogy) the best disinfectant. However, sunlight burns.
If you’re merely illuminating a bigot, and not burning them, then what you’re using ain’t sunlight.
Louis
Sunlight plus a really big magnifying glass are the best disinfectant.
Louis?
Louis‽
Louis!!!!
{Waves at Chigau}
Awwwwroight moi luvver! ‘ow bist oo? [/West Country Accent]
I am quite well, darling Louis.
How are things with you?
The liberal media forced him to claim that having sex with underaged boys is hot. /snark
Siobhan @2
Fair enough, considering Obama’s Nobel was awarded for shit he didn’t do.
Hi Louis! Just today, Iwas trying to remember the name of that really funny guy, used to comment here, chemist by profession…
As for Bill Maher, I have the feeling it was only professional caution that stopped him endorsing Trump. It’s been obvious for a long time that the people he really hates are “libruls”.
“You’re welcome.”-Bill Maher
Motherfucker, you did nothing. Larry Wilmore deserves the credit.
Erin Keane wrote a similar column in Salon. She literally ended the piece with <i Sometimes the cliché is true, and sunlight really is the best disinfectant.
Erin Keane
logicalcat: Wilmore didn’t make Yiannopoulos look bad in the eyes of CPAC and friends either.
CPAC is quite happy with bathroom bills to keep out “weirdos” (despite the absurdity of forcing men to use the women’s room), and with hating on uppity black women and the like. It’s being gay while talking about diddling little white boys that’s beyond the pale.
Aaaand, here’s a clip of Maher defending a 35-year old woman having sex with a 14-year old boy, saying she’s in jail because “she’s in love”. Calls it unorthodox and simply not conforming to what society believes to be the perfect American family. Also throws in the dudebro gem of “how can a woman rape a man?!?”
numerobis wrote:
And in this case it was more Milo rationalizing the sexual abuse he suffered as a child by rewriting it as something he really wanted all along, and therefore should’ve been okay. Since conservatives in the U.S. still strongly associate gayness with pedophilia, they could no longer tolerate Milo, even though rehabilitating his image would’ve been very easy for them (they’ve done it for people who’ve done far, far worse).
So in effect, Bill Maher wants to take credit for the surge in conservative homophobia that knocked Milo off his pedestal. Bravo Bill!
All Maher has to do is look at the reasoning given by CPAC and the publisher for why they dropped him to see that it had nothing to do with him at all. He misses the fact that Milo only fell from grace due to his words on two podcasts, rather than his softball panel spot, because… ego I suppose. His thinking appears to be ‘it happened shortly after the my show, therefore it was caused by… me!’
Maybe Maher thinks Milo was knocked off because Maher said nice things about Milo, and the RWNJs couldn’t abide by that?
As a commenter over at Lawyers Guns and Money put it, giving Maher credit for Milo’s downfall is like crediting Jefferson Davis for the end of slavery.
@24 Numerobis
You are right, and I was completly clueless about what happened with Milo and the CPAC stuff.
If that’s the case, Maher should have complemented Milo’s pearls, then given him a sloppy french kiss.
Oh, good, no pearl clutching about the supposed “violent rhetoric” this time. That’s actually a hopeful sign.
WTF, Coyne?
https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2017/02/21/milo-falls-on-his-sword/
Good thanks, Chigau. Busy, but good.
KG, you’re thinking of someone else! ?
Be well All.
Louis
Nope, have to disagree. As horrible as the guy is/was, I found him no more ugly than coulter, and it was worth listening to a small interview with him to get to hear Larry Whitmore tell him to fuck off (twice in one breath) and the other guy (CIA guy, don’t remember the name) to tear him a new one and show him as the small little man he is.
I quite enjoyed it.
I suggest we take this approach the next time Maher needs surgery. They instruments used just get left in the sun for an hour or two after they are used on the surgery before his…
warflagon
I take it you’re cis?
@KG #21:
“It’s been obvious for a long time that the people he really hates are “libruls”.”
Actually, he loves “reasonable” liberals, it’s the ones who don’t kiss his ass he has a problem with. That’s why he gets along so well with Sam Harris.
Let’s all remember this the next time Maher is disinvited to speak at a college campus or any other “politically incorrect” persona gets booted and he decides to defend them.
If you get to be the one to take credit for Milo being dumped from CPAC, kicked out of Breitbart, and fired from Simon and Schuster, then you don’t get to complain when it happens to someone else…especially you.
i’M not familiar with cis, is that a movie or clique?
What is it with Depeche Mode that they attract nut jobs?
I take it you’re a troll, then.
If you don’t know what “cis” means in a conversation about “trans,” then you both know nothing about the trans movement (and thus have not done your homework before opening your yap) as well as know nothing about your prefixes in English.
“Cis” is the complementary term to “trans.” “Macro” and “micro.” “Pro” and “anti.” “Pre” and “post.”
Did you not take any chemistry in school? Do you know nothing about isomers? What did you think the “trans” in “trans fatty acid” meant?
Or history. Cisalpine Gaul vs. Transalpine Gaul.