I never thought I’d take Keith Ablow’s side (he’s the pet conservative doctor on Fox News), but there you go — he gets into a shouting match with Robert Jeffers, the Duggar family defender. Jeffers goes ballistic at the criticism of the Duggar’s parenting. Ablow is dismissive of the quality of parenting when you’ve got 19 kids, finds their stories naive and unbelievable, and calls the Duggars “bizarre” for refusing to allow their kids to hold hands on dates until they are engaged. Watch Jeffers begin to lose it around the 6 minute mark.
He starts off promoting Christianity: apparently, secular counseling puts you in a state of permanent victimhood, while Jesus forgives you and allows you to move on.
Ablow replies that “the church hasn’t always been perfect in its treatment of pedophiles, has it”. On Fox News? On Sean Hannity’s show? He’s also “not sure that it [pastoral counseling] is a comprehensive way to address pedophilia”. And then he asks “where is the wonderful family the pastor is describing?” after calling them “bizarre” and a “sideshow”.
The pastor’s defense is that the Duggars
love their girls more than anyone on this panel do, and certainly more than anyone on the Left do, and I’m tired of the hypocrisy of the Left. Then he complains that
there are people who hate the values of the Duggars (true, I do!), and Ablow replies “I wouldn’t turn my family into a reality show, I hate those values”.
Get ready to enter the Bizarro universe everyone, because you have to hear the arguments right-winger Christianist Jeffers then makes.
That is your judgment, that is the parents’ choice.
I heard you yesterday criticizing the number of children, that is none of your you-know-what-business how many children the Duggars decide to have.
About the parents being so controlling of their children’s behavior:
THAT IS THEIR CHOICE.
It is none of your business, doctor, to get involved with the choices these parents make.
I really, really want to hear Jeffers’ anti-abortion arguments now. When it’s a Christian family he approves of, any behavior is forgiven, the parents have complete control, and doctors and political forces must be completely hands off. I wonder how consistent he is on that policy?
One other thing I wish they’d followed up on…they started talking about the utility of this “pastoral counseling” nonsense. I think counseling is hard, needs real skill and training, and becoming a pastor involves very little of the necessary background. I have a doctorate in biology; that doesn’t qualify me to do surgery at all, but somehow having a pulpit makes you a master of an extremely sensitive art? I don’t think so.
All the Duggars got was “pastoral counseling”, but they’ve been highly reluctant to say who gave it. They’ve been protecting the identity of this ‘counselor’ more fiercely than they protected their daughter’s bodies. But they dropped little hints about the location and neighborhood of the ‘counseling’ center, and Libby Ann pieced them together and figured out that it was an ATI center in Little Rock, Arkansas. A branch of ATI…the schlock Christian counseling outfit created by Bill Gothard, known sexual predator and promoter of uptight, blame-the-victim morality.
Uh-oh. Keith Ablow was right about something!