When philosophers talk about “nothing”
Why, their nothing has nothing at all
No time, and no space, and no matter,
Not even the quantumly small
When philosophers talk about “nothing”
It’s a special and magical word
But it isn’t the “nothing” that physicists see,
Cos the thing is, it must be inferred
Now, this doesn’t much bother philosophers
As a rule, they are rarely unnerved
But you see, this philosopher’s nothing?
It has never—not once—been observed
When philosophers argue religion
And their “nothing” implies a first cause…
If you get to assume your conclusions,
You’re not looking for natural laws
If the universe started from nothing
Which it can’t, the philosophers say
Either “nothing”, or “nothing”, is faulty
So… why swing the philosophers’ way?
There are two different versions of “nothing”
Which the sides have us choosing between
One version says God isn’t needed…
And the other has never been seen
So it’s “nothing” to fret about, really
(and “nothing” seems overly broad)
And there’s nothing that needs a creator…
But it works… if you presuppose God.
Y’know, I would swear I’ve already responded to this… but my aggregator says no. Lemme show you a video by Peter Kreeft, explaining that belief in god is more rational than atheism…
Yes, Kreeft starts with Aquinas, because the 1200’s are so modern.
Ok… I was going to go through the whole video, but I think maybe I’ll save that for later. I want to mention one other thing first.
Now… what was that?
Oh, yeah… nothing. Nothing at all.
Now, Krauss has a book out about nothing. And he’s pretty damned good at talking about it, I hear. But there are those who say he’s talking about an entirely different nothing than the philosophers are.
Which is the point of my little verse. See… Krauss’s “nothing” has the decided disadvantage of being observable. Philosophers need not restrict their nothings with such trivial matters. There is “nothing”, and then, there is “nothing”. One is easy to understand… but has never been observed. The other does not match our expectations, but does match the evidence.
There’s nothing, and then there is nothing. The philosophers’ “nothing” is an assumption, not an observation.
Really…. It’s nothing.
grumpyoldfart says
From the video:
3:00 Since there was a big bang there must be a big banger.
3:12 But is this big banger god?
Yes because,
3:30 There is no time before the big bang.
And
3:48 An absolute beginning is what most people mean by god.
[Is he suggesting that god’s existence can be proved at the ballot box!?]
Finally:
4:50 The conclusion that god exists doesn’t require faith; atheism requires faith.
To Kreeft: I don’t believe that your big banger exists – point to the faith behind that statement.
John Morales says
<snicker>