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Mittens thinks cold fusion is solved?

If we take this comment from Romney literally, he thinks not only is cold fusion a done deal, but U of U solved it:

WashEx — I do believe in basic science. I believe in participating in space. I believe in analysis of new sources of energy. I believe in laboratories, looking at ways to conduct electricity with — with cold fusion, if we can come up with it. It was the University of Utah that solved that. We somehow can’t figure out how to duplicate it.

Cold fusion was a purported breakthrough decades ago where hydrogen nuclei were brought close enough together to lock via the strong force, i.e., fusion, without the 10 million degrees and gigapascals of pressure it takes inside a star or, briefly, when a kilo of hydrogen is sandwiched for an instant between several coordinated A-bombs.

Cold fusion was debunked 22 years ago, and Romney’s comment is not all that far off: it was reported but could not be replicated. Taken alone, that kind of comment wouldn’t worry me all that much coming from a non science politico. But it’s not alone by a long shot. tthe scientific illiteracy of these clowns has reached epic proportions. Now they’re reaping the just reward of garbage in, garbage out in all kinds of ways.

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  1. says

    Hey, he’s a guy who thinks that you could clear smoke out of an airplane at altitude by opening a window. How in the world could he understand nuclear physics!

  2. raven says

    It was the University of Utah that solved that.

    They did no such thing.

    It was a combination of an artifact and wishful thinking. Both chemists involved ended up leaving the U. of Utah.

    The scientific illiteracy of these clowns has reached epic proportions.

    True.

    Romney went to Harvard and Stanford. He should be smart enough to know basic science and show some common sense. But maybe he isn’t.

  3. says

    The frightening thing is, you can’t blame homeschooling on their abject and willful ignorance. Willard is allegedly a college graduate with his undergrad work at BYU and his joint JD/MBA at Harvard, cum laude from the Law School and a Baker Scholar from the Business School.

    Which makes me wonder: has anyone ever seen his long-form diploma?

  4. Randomfactor says

    And notice he says cold fusion is used to “conduct” electricity. I think he heard the term and assumed it was about superconductors…which I doubt he understands either.

  5. StevoR says

    Off-topic~ish but Mittens has also released his new space exploration policy too :

    http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/09/24/space-shuffle/comment-page-3/#comment-563220

    “A strong and successful NASA does not require more funding, it needs clearer priorities,” the [Romney space policy - ed.] paper reads. “Romney will ensure that NASA has practical and sustainable missions. There will be a balance of pragmatic and top-priority science with inspirational and groundbreaking exploration programs.”
    No further details about these prospective science and exploration missions are provided. (Emphasis added.)

    No extra funding for NASA and no specific missions. Don’t like the sound of that Mittens.

  6. says

    Both chemists involved ended up leaving the U. of Utah.

    So yeah, U of U really did solve it.

    Romney went to Harvard and Stanford. He should be smart enough to know basic science and show some common sense.

    I went to UVA, I barely got my BA in international relations after pretty much flunking out of engineering — and I still have more sicence sense than this smirking stooge. I’m deeply appalled that the Democrats aren’t milking the “how can our kids get good jobs if the country is run by morons?” angle every chance they get. Seriously, Republican stupidity is an economic issue.

  7. Francisco Bacopa says

    Given the conspiratorial tendencies of so many of today’s Republicans, I don’t doubt that a story that cold fusion has been suppressed by, well I don’t know who, just pick the enemy of the week.

    Maybe this will start a wave of home-based cold fusion research. I’d better go buy some palladium, the price is about to go up.

  8. says

    Raging Bee makes a great point about their stupidity having serious economic implications. There are non-morons in the party, very serious ones, unfortunately they appear to be ideologues first-’they may be morons, but their our morons’, instead of thinking of what this country needs.

  9. mikeym says

    That first sentence, “I do believe in basic science” is likely to damage his image among the GOP base. Is he trying to lose this election on purpose?

  10. F says

    I find it highly amusing that he thinks energy generation (real or not) is the same as distribution.

    conduct electricity with — with cold fusion

    Yes, yes. Conduct electricity with cold fusion. Copper wire is fucking cheaper.

  11. davidnangle says

    I remember, perhaps from the McCain campaign, somebody saying that scientific research would be funded… but only when the potential discoveries were known and approved. None of that silly serendipity for us!

  12. comfychair says

    Well, according to youtube, literally dozens of people have perfected the free energy perpetual motion thing with magnets glued to the plastic frame of a computer fan. I can haz oval offis nao plz?

  13. wholething says

    I believe in participating in space.

    Do you think he will flip-flop on that when they tell him you can’t roll down the windows on spacecraft either.

  14. kraut says

    “We somehow can’t figure out how to duplicate it.”

    That should’ve been a hint even for the less scientific literate.
    Which goes to prove Mittens doesn’t have a fucking clue.

  15. cgilder says

    My husband has been obsessively following the development of “Low Energy Nuclear Reactors” online. Apparently National Instruments (here in Austin) is helping with the verification/manufacturing/development of a LENR by an Italian named Rossi. I admit the idea is appealing, but I’m not holding my breath.

  16. Trebuchet says

    @cgilder: Fleischmann & Pons were sincere, inompetent, and deluded. Rossi is simply a scam artist.

  17. TxSkeptic says

    @StevoR – “No further details about these prospective science and exploration missions are provided”

    Reince Rriebus claims the GOP plan has “Specifics coming out of our eyeballs.” Too bad they’re not coming out of their mouths.

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    Also, “We somehow can’t figure out how to duplicate it.”

    They haven’t been able to duplicate the walking on water or translating magic tablets with a hat tricks either.

  18. Ysanne says

    Holy shit, could he at least use words fit together, as in, making sense in the same sentence?

    I do believe in basic science.

    The nice thing about science is that you don’t have to believe in it, you can just try if it works.

    I believe in participating in space.

    Believe in what exactly? Participating in space (rather than, say, space exporation)? I hope he also believes in participating in area, length, time, mass, temperature and other fundamental aspects of the physical world.

    I believe in analysis of new sources of energy. I believe in laboratories,

    Believe in laboratories? Again, you don’t have to believe in that because it’s really easy to check if they exist. It’s like saying “I believe in the bathrooms”. Analysis of new sources of energy: Yep, exists too, testable by meeting scientists and reading up on their publications.

    looking at ways to conduct electricity with — with cold fusion, if we can come up with it.

    Ways to conduct electricity with — wow, great grammar here! And hey, it’s really hard to memorize the difference between what a power plant does and what copper wires are used for.

  19. Taz says

    Can’t remember who said it, but I loved this quote from the cold fusion incident:

    These results have not been confirmed by any university without a good football team.

  20. tacotaco says

    Hey, he’s a guy who thinks that you could clear smoke out of an airplane at altitude by opening a window.

    You can. You just have to depressurize it first, which isn’t a problem if you have supplemental oxygen and you’re below 50,000 feet. Of course, if the fire is still going all the additional airflow will just make it that much worse.

    For the 737-400:

    Smoke or fumes source is confirmed to be on the flight deck:
    Caution! Window should not be opened unless the source is confirmed to be on the flight deck.
    Establish normal holding speed. High airspeed may prevent opening the window.
    Open the First Officer’s sliding window.
    >>Go to the Smoke, Fire or Fumes checklist on page 8.8 and do the remaining steps.

  21. Woof says

    without the 10 million degrees and gigapascals of pressure it takes inside a star or, briefly, when a kilo of hydrogen is sandwiched for an instant between several coordinated A-bombs.

    Um… that’s not exactly how a fusion bomb works…

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