This is the lounge. You can discuss anything you want, but you will do it kindly. Pay no attention to the freeloading baby gorilla in the corner.
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Mar 19 2013
Mar 19 2013
This is the lounge. You can discuss anything you want, but you will do it kindly. Pay no attention to the freeloading baby gorilla in the corner.
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thumper1990
19 March 2013 at 12:49 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
@Lynna OM
This cracked me up :)
Thanks for the info, I had no idea the LDS was so… conflicted. I was aware of the FLDS, but not the RLDS; and certainly not the myriad Prophets with their own little clique of followers.
thumper1990
19 March 2013 at 12:52 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
@ednaz
Thank you :) The do is this Saturday; I will let everyone know how it goes and any reactions to the non-Goddy Grace.
Also, first post, wahoo!
glodson
19 March 2013 at 12:53 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
To continue form the old thread:
I don’t know your friend, but it sounds like he wanted to preach rather than have a dialogue.
Hell, everyone has some racist thoughts and impressions. We are a part of a culture with these attitudes that are deeply seated. Fuck, we all know people who are bigoted but not out of malice. But rather out of thoughtlessness and ignorance. Some have such ego defenses that they will not confront their own bigotry.
We should try to educate, and all. But your point is dead on. If a person is not party to examining their own attitudes and beliefs, preventing them from expressing their bigotry with social pressure will help slow the spread of these bigoted attitudes.
It really does sound like someone had a pet point and really didn’t like being challenged. But that’s the impression I’m getting.
Crudely Wrott
19 March 2013 at 12:55 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I’ll be taking your good wishes with me, Oggie, Portia, Glodson, Beatrice, Esteleth, Opposablethumbs, Thumper1990, Pteryxx and Ednaz. I’ll be leaving all of you a heapin’ helpin’ of mine. ;^>
thumper1990
19 March 2013 at 1:21 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Thanks to everyone who helped with and gave thoughts on the Grace, it is much appreciated :) ‘Nite all!
thunk, acolyte of metatextuality
19 March 2013 at 1:24 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
hia all.
I’m flustered, I guess. But rather destressy; the paucity of classes until Thursday, and the spring break, certainly help.
Ogvorbis
19 March 2013 at 1:27 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Sorry, Lynna. I wasn’t trying to be pedantic. That was an unthinking response on my part just because the uniform brought back some memories and a bit of panic. Sorry.
mildlymagnificent
19 March 2013 at 1:28 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hope you’ve packed those hugs and warm wishes, crudely. Be sure they’re there every time you unpack.
In other good news, mrmagnificent has had his surgery to implant a defibrillator. If all goes well he’ll be moving from hospital to the rehab facility on Friday. Meanwhile, on the home front, it’s 4 am and I’ve not quite finished cleaning ready for the tradies to arrive to instal the new kitchen …. at 8 am. (Actually, they’ll be ripping out all the old stuff first, but you know what I mean.) Off for a couple of hours of shuteye.
Millicent
19 March 2013 at 1:58 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hi everyone. I delurked on the Thunderdome to show support to Caine and Pteryxx, and now I’m all full of warm happy thoughts about this community, so this seems like a better thread to spread my THANK YOUs and YOU GUYS ARE AWESOMEs.
Anyone have any tricks on how to lurk less and post more? I suppose the answer is to just do it, right? :)
thunk, acolyte of metatextuality
19 March 2013 at 1:58 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
well, de-stressed. also hugses, Crudely, I wish ya the best on your journey.
Mildlymagnificent: Hope your hubby gets well and all of that.
twosheds1
19 March 2013 at 2:00 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Folk singer Michelle Shocked has joined the “God hates fag” crowd:
http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2013/03/singer-michelle-shocked-declares-god-hates-fags-during-san-francisco-show/
glodson
19 March 2013 at 2:14 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
mildlymagnificent
Good luck to Mr, and best wishes to you both.
Millicent
I should also throw out some support to Caine and Pteryxx. And the others who talk about their experiences. They, and many others around here, are just fantastic.
I suppose. I recently stopped lurking so much and started posting more. Thus far, I’ve managed to not make an entire jackass out myself, yet.
I really can’t give any advice other than just get your feet wet here in the lounge. Since you’ve lurked, you’ve likely got a pretty good feel for what is and isn’t acceptable behavior. You’ll likely do much better than I at contributing. Good luck and I’m glad to see someone else take the plunge.
Crudely Wrott
19 March 2013 at 2:21 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Draggin’ my feet a little. Everything else is already loaded or ready to load. Time to power down and pull all the cables and hit the road.
Thanks for the waves and good wishes, Mildlymagnificent and Thunk. See you up the trail.
Till next time, Dear Horde.
Pteryxx
19 March 2013 at 2:30 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I… have no words. (The good way.) This needs messaging.
http://createourownlight.tumblr.com/post/45684185068/steubenvilles-jane-doe-asked-people-to-do-something
There’s a Twitter #SupportJaneDoe hashtag.
Improbable Joe, bearer of the Official SpokesGuitar
19 March 2013 at 2:31 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Crudely Wrott,
Good luck and take care of yourself, OK?
twosheds1
19 March 2013 at 2:33 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Oops, didn’t scroll down far enough. My bad.
glodson
19 March 2013 at 2:35 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
That is awesome. Really, there’s no words.
Dalillama, Schmott Guy
19 March 2013 at 2:37 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Best of luck, Crudely
Mayonnaise Jane
19 March 2013 at 2:49 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
It’s making it’s way around Tumblr as well. I reblogged it earlier today.
8^)
Beatrice (looking for a happy thought)
19 March 2013 at 2:52 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Millicent,
Hello! I think I remember seeing you delurking for one thread a couple of weeks (months?) ago! Good to see you again (if that was you).
Trick for commenting more? Just start typing and once the conversations start you won’t be able to get away again. Like now. ;)
Millicent
19 March 2013 at 3:34 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hi Beatrice! Yep, that was me. I was gobsmacked after 3D5K and had to say something in thanks to everyone who took on that job. And then I slunk back into lurkerhood, heh. I am going to try my best not to do that again.
And glodson, thank you for your words of encouragement. I think you are a dang good commenter. :)
Off now to spread that tumblr — what a wonderful thing to do.
Giliell, professional cynic
19 March 2013 at 3:35 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hi folks
So, Mr. is already on holiday. It’s very nice to come home from work to two sleeping children instead of having to pick them up at their grandma’s
Crudely
My very best wishes to you
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beatrice
big hugs
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I also LOVE gorillas. They’re my favourite great apes (present company excluded)
Lynna, OM
19 March 2013 at 3:45 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Ogvorbis @7
No need to apologize. I understand.
I meant my Madonna crack as a joke at her expense. Didn’t come off, obviously.
I should have recognized the Cub Scout uniform in the picture. Unfortunately, I think Madonna added some silliness to a serious discussion about gays in the Boy Scouts. Still, she did get press coverage.
glodson
19 March 2013 at 4:18 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Millicent
Awwww, thanks.
…
Just put dinner in the oven, but now I have a problem. The little girl has decided today is the day we bake brownies. We did say would we would do so… but the baking dish used for dinner is the one I make the brownies in. I guess I will have a thorough clean up to do early tonight so brownies can be baked.
David Marjanović
19 March 2013 at 4:20 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Healthy, I’d say, except I’m still remarkably tired and can’t get anything started.
^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^
That must be it.
And yes, you’re pretty much the only one who vomits when overwhelmed.
:-( :-( :-(
Seconded.
:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
+ 1
Yes, except for the wine. :-) Too fruity.
Oh yes. In spades.
*hugs* *calming manatees* *happiness tea* *chocolate*
What carlie said.
Yay! :-)
I love it.
No private enterprise for me. Like, ever.
…It’s very simple: when I see something and want to react, I do. I’m not capable of lurking. When I come across an interesting blog where I can’t comment*, I get angry and sad, and then I usually just leave without reading any more.
* You wouldn’t believe how many Blogspot blogs have switched off the “Name/URL” option.
Yay! :-)
LykeX
19 March 2013 at 4:28 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Don’t feel bad about feeling bad. That way madness lies.
In the spirit of sharing, I recently threw in the towel and acknowledged that I needed some serious help. I’ve talked to a counselor and have an appointment with a doctor on the other side of Easter. I expect to be diagnosed with some kind of anxiety disorder, probably social. I’ve been informed that cognitive therapy combined with some temporary medication is probably the way to go.
Not a lot of fun, but it’s less than what a lot of other people are dealing with, including people right here. In some way, reading about other people’s problem is cathartic. It makes me feel like mine aren’t quite as bad. So, thanks, I guess.
Beatrice (looking for a happy thought)
19 March 2013 at 4:34 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Giliell,
*hugs*
If you don’t need them right now, they have no expiration date so you can save them for a rainy day.
Lynna, OM
19 March 2013 at 4:42 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
On this 10th anniversary of the Iraq invasion, the 10th anniversary of a war in which approximately 134,000 Iraqi civilians were killed, the anniversary of a war that cost the U.S. $2 trillion (and not done yet with the spending), on this anniversary Donald Rumsfeld tweeted:
So, Rumsfeld wants some love? Twitter followers obliged:
And some Twitter followers simply linked to Rumsfield’s past words: http://pages.citebite.com/l1f2q6c3k3ihv
Hung on his own petard.
glodson
19 March 2013 at 4:45 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Lynna
It is almost like Rumsfeld doesn’t even get postcards from reality.
jesseneedham
19 March 2013 at 4:46 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
If your unaware, Ray Comfort has a fb page. https://www.facebook.com/official.Ray.Comfort?fref=ts The best part is that atheists are not censored, unless you cuss or say things like god damn. It is currently being overrun by the heathens. *viking horn signaling charge*
Beatrice (looking for a happy thought)
19 March 2013 at 4:50 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Ogvorbis,
Regarding your over-apologizing… When I started working, it took my boss/mentor about a week to get annoyed and tell me to stop saying “sorry” all the time. I’m there to learn, and there’s no need to apologize for asking a question, misunderstanding him, answering the phone, not answering the phone or breathing. (and yes, I had to cut off my “sorry” after that)
Um, yeah, no smart conclusion, really. Just that you have to listen to us when we tell you not to apologize so much. :)
A lot of my over-apologizing is related to feeling insecure. I control my sorries a lot better since I’ve become more comfortable in my workplace. You’re cared for and valued here, no need to feel insecure with us!
Besides, you’ve been here longer than I have, so I feel weird giving you that talk.
—-
LykeX,
It’s really good that you are seeking treatment.
glodson
19 March 2013 at 4:52 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I’ve heard you get banned for mentioning Bananas.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=541674909210698&set=a.284444838267041.74398.284438941600964&type=1&theater
Lynna, OM
19 March 2013 at 5:00 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
David Corn of Mother Jones posted a great article today. His way of looking at the 10th anniversary of the Iraq war is markedly different from that of Donald Rumsfield.
Excerpt:
Fox News … same as it ever was.
SallyStrange
19 March 2013 at 5:05 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
What if you post that “Hollaback Girl” song by Gwen Stefani, where she’s like, “This shit! Is bananas! B-A-N-A-N-A-S!” Some who’s not at work right now should try that.
carlie
19 March 2013 at 5:26 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
David! ((((((hugs)))))))
rq
19 March 2013 at 5:37 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Best wishes to Crudely Wrott.
Welcome to de-lurkers everywhere!
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It was great. He even talked about Horses (but not Peas)!! (I won’t say any more, Beatrice! Except that it was awesome.)
Millicent
Quick, your thoughts on:
1) Horses
2) Peas
3) Cookies or Cake?
dontpanic
19 March 2013 at 5:43 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Me, late to the party as ever. I hope Crudely sees me waving in his rearview mirror. Best wishes!
Cerberus, I still weep for your situation. Gawd, it’s hard to find good, passionate science educators and I’m seriously sad to see you getting pushed out.
Everyone else: hugs, chocolate, drinks, etc as needed or desired.
Busy week for me. Three different projects I’m working with decided that this week would be the “hey, let’s all get together and have a workshop week” (including Saturday because taking up one our normal days off is just so awesome). Probably because this is “spring break” (doesn’t look that spring-y to me) for lots of universities; by random chance my wife’s two colleges and the local school district all managed to get them aligned for next week (1st time in 10 years). Those meeting obligations and the big push from one of the other projects for me to get some code done for them. Ack! The pressure is on and I’m here in lounge…
And I’ve been offered Lyric Opera tickets by my elderly aunt and uncle who aren’t up to going this Saturday. No doubt good seats so I feel I should use them, but it will be a test of willpower to avoid falling asleep from exhaustion.
And now I need to head home and make dinner for myself and the spawn…
Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls
19 March 2013 at 5:47 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Phew, the last few days have been busy in RL. Getting some household chores/shopping done Saturday, so on Sunday I could get up early and cook three large crockpots worth of corned beef and cabbage dinners (one for the next door neighbor that does the Redhead’s braids) while the Redhead watched Irish themed shows, and Monday getting some deadline stuff done and work and cleaning up after all the cooking when I got home. Barely able to sit down to even scan the threads. Now caught up.
Best wishes to Crudely Wrott, hoping they can do something for his back.
Beatrice (looking for a happy thought)
19 March 2013 at 5:48 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
rq,
I’m glad you had fun!
Tony! The Queer Shoop (now with clucking lights)
19 March 2013 at 6:27 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I will just leave this here.
David Marjanović
19 March 2013 at 6:35 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hah. It was at least 3 trillion by 2006.
So true.
^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^
Esteleth, stupid fucking starchild Tolkien worshiping douche
19 March 2013 at 6:48 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
So I joined a gym. It is cheap, and has a deal whereby for the first six weeks, you check in (and if you don’t come in, they call you), and a trainer develops a plan for you. The idea is to form a new habit.
Anyway, today I was talking with the trainer, and the conversation went to my diet. I admitted that I have trouble here, and would like tips on improvement. The trainer asked for specifics, and I offered that a typical dinner is pizza and beer.
Quoth he: “That’s not the best. Try to work on that.”
Gee, ya think?!
He did offer tips. But I was rather baffled by that.
–
Re: the “bananas” song – when I was an undergrad, I was on the swim team. Because of a practical joke involving the coach when he was an undergrad at MIT in the 1970s (yes, that is the official reason), the swim team’s mascot is the banana. Seriously, the banana. So when that song appeared, it became a “thing.”
Esteleth, stupid fucking starchild Tolkien worshiping douche
19 March 2013 at 6:56 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Each team has its own mascot. This was because before about 1975, the official college mascot (for NCAA purposes) was the Virgin, and students revolted. The college dropped the Virgin and for awhile there was no mascot at all. Then we were the Unicorns (“if it is going to be a mythological beast never found on campus, let it at least be a cool one!”) for a few years, then nothing for awhile longer. During these interregna, each team selected its own mascot. Officially, the college mascot is now the Pioneer, and they’re slowly but surely pushing the teams to accept this and use Pioneer naming and iconography. But given that the swim team has more or less nothing to put said naming and iconography on, this hasn’t affected much (we wore blue suits and yellow caps – and swim caps are just big enough for the name of the school and our names).
David Marjanović
19 March 2013 at 7:04 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
X-D
Millicent
19 March 2013 at 7:26 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
@rq:
1) They’re fine if someone else is riding them. I have MS, so I’m wary of falling off or otherwise hurting myself on a horse through my own misadventure.
2) Fresh, yes. Cooked, not my favorite. (I’m a USian, and I have to admit that the mushy peas thing is not for me).
3) Cookies. But really neither, since I am trying a Paleo diet in a (perhaps futile) effort to manage my pain levels.
Rumsfeld sounds like he’s trying to convince himself. “We did do a good thing! We did, we diiiiiid!!”
mudpuddles
19 March 2013 at 8:32 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hi to sallystrange,
You said something on a previous post about Michael Nugent having a fencepost up his butt or something like that… can I ask what that was about? I normally like his writing and was wondering if he has said / written something that irked you. Just curious.
SallyStrange
19 March 2013 at 8:34 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
What is this blasphemy? The correct version of #3 is:
3. Pie or cake?
And the correct answer is of course pie.
SallyStrange
19 March 2013 at 8:38 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hey, Mudpuddles, Nugent made a good impression on me early on, but if you check out his blog page, his last few posts have basically turned his blog into the Pit O’Slyme, the Irish outpost of the Slymepit, where a few dedicated trolls are spreading lies and personal attacks about Ophelia Benson, yours truly, and several other of their favorite targets. To go into detail would ruin the nice atmosphere around here, which at the moment is (in my head) redolent of strawberry rhubarb pie, so if you’re curious, leave me a note in Thunderdome and I can explain more.
SallyStrange
19 March 2013 at 8:47 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Oh hey look, Stephanie Zvan just did a post about it, so I don’t have to explain. Yay! http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamonds/2013/03/19/a-platform-for-reasonable-dialog/
ck
19 March 2013 at 9:22 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I had a serious case of Impostor Syndrome after starting my new job. Took a few months to get over that. I was completely capable of doing the job, but just couldn’t believe that for quite some time.
ck
19 March 2013 at 9:24 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
No, the correct answer has got to be cheesecake. Which is a pie, not a cake.
Dalillama, Schmott Guy
19 March 2013 at 9:29 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Millicent
Welcome!
Does anyone here know about cars? D’s car died some months back, which we believed was due to a dead battery. Tonight, a prospective buyer tried to jumpstart the car, but the engine would not turn over. The lights etc. started working when the cables were attached, but the engine did not start. What is most likely wrong with it?
Audley Z. Darkheart (liar and scoundrel)
19 March 2013 at 9:52 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
*runs in!*
*drops baby picture!*
*runs out!*
throwaway, extra beefy super queasy
19 March 2013 at 9:58 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
A+ is down? I had a really shitty weekend, and I’m finally ‘home’, it feels alien to me, but also the same old environment is a bit triggering to me. When I was away I thought my mood would be improved just from being back. I think it might have gotten lower. I was thinking of possibly rearranging after some tidying up to see how that goes. I also want to decorate (on the cheap). And sleep in my own bed will be good too.
I heard about the Steubenville convictions but I had no idea how vicious the backlash was since I had no ‘net. Holy shit. Not shocked, just disappointed. Again.
Sorry to post and crash, I’ll respond over morning tea.
Improbable Joe, bearer of the Official SpokesGuitar
19 March 2013 at 10:07 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Dalillama,
What sort of car? Especially what year?
jakehamby
19 March 2013 at 10:10 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
@Dalillama,
Could be a bad starter motor. If that’s not the problem, and if the “Check Engine” light is going on, there are devices that plug into the OBD-II port (usually hidden behind a panel near where the driver’s left leg would be) to display any failure codes from the engine computer.
If you have an Android device plus $150 to burn, I’ve had good luck with the OBDLink MX, but there are cheaper options as well. I wanted something that I could use to log OBD-II data while driving, so I went with the Bluetooth version, but since you just need to troubleshoot why the engine isn’t starting, the $49.95 OBDLink SX plugs into any Windows laptop via USB and should work just as well for diagnostic purposes.
Pteryxx
19 March 2013 at 10:16 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Some auto parts chains, like AutoZone, will run your diagnostics for free. /commentandrun
Dalillama, Schmott Guy
19 March 2013 at 10:18 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
IJoe
1997 Pontiac Bonneville SE.
jakehamby
Unfortunately, we haven’t got any money at all at the moment. In theory, how would we tell if it was a bad starter motor?
ck
19 March 2013 at 11:40 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Last time I had a dead starter, my car did nothing but click when I turned the key to the ignition position (no dimming of the lights, engine did not turn over, etc). What does your car do when you try to start it? I doubt I can help, but I know it’s difficult to troubleshoot something remotely without a lot of details about what the thing is doing when you try to operate it.
Dalillama, Schmott Guy
19 March 2013 at 11:46 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Throwaway
Sympathies and *hugs* if desired.
ck
It makes a coughing noise like it’s trying to start, all the lights dim, then nothing. The lights come back up and it goes quiet.
Tony! The Queer Shoop (now with clucking lights)
20 March 2013 at 12:04 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I need help. I seem to recall a video disproving the power of chi in a martial arts instructor. I remember a skeptic challenging the instructor and the end result being that the effectiveness of the chi was based on the amount of priming an individual had, rather than the actual power of chi. Anyone who knows what I am talking about…help?
mildlymagnificent
20 March 2013 at 12:08 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Sorry Tony. I do recall – with about the same level of specifics. I got nothing.
dontpanic
20 March 2013 at 12:11 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Coughing noise sounds like it’s turning over (i.e. starter okay). Light dimming could be that the source isn’t strong enough to both crank and charge the battery — sometimes it helps to let the battery charge a bit before trying to crank. Silence might mean that it isn’t the starter motor that’s the problem but the solenoid — that’s the bit that connects the high-current wiring to the starter without running it all through the key switch (which would melt). It’s like an electromagnet that controls a metal bar that completes a circuit. These do in fact go bad (at least in my experience) probably as often as the starter itself.
rq
20 March 2013 at 12:17 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Dalillama
I hate it when our car has bronchitis, too. I hope the issue is resolved soon, sorry I don’t have some actual advice. *hugs*?
Milkicent
I think your answer#1 is just fine, but watch out for cicely, she believes Horses are the Ultimate Evil. (Re: pain management and horses, I thought ride therapy was a good thing?)
As for#2, you may find some Pea symPathizers here, but they are very few and far between. Mushy, crunchy or otherwise. Most prefer to nuke them from outer space.
I forget the correct answer to #3 (but it must be Cookies or Cake, SallyStrange, pie is what saved the Lounge from Deeeeep Riiiiifffftssss filled with chocolate sauce), but welcome on board! ;)
rq
20 March 2013 at 12:22 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Oy. All Hail Tpyos for Mobile.
Forgive me, MilLicent!
rq
20 March 2013 at 12:30 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I also wanted to add:
dontpanic
sleeping at the opera is perfectly acceptable. Good lyrical music, mood lighting, soft chairs – what could be better? Besides, it’s not as if anyone goes to listen. ;)
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Some mornings I feel like this.
Dalillama, Schmott Guy
20 March 2013 at 12:32 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
dontpanic
We let it charge for about 15 minutes. D’s sister is going to come take a look at it tomorrow, we’ll see what she says.
FossilFishy(Anti-Vulcanist, with a perchant for pachyderm punditry)
20 March 2013 at 12:46 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Here you go Tony. Not sure if this is what you had in mind but it’s pretty famous.
Trigger warning for someone getting hurt.
FossilFishy(Anti-Vulcanist, with a perchant for pachyderm punditry)
20 March 2013 at 12:51 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
rq @66, where did you get that picture of me? ;)
Beatrice (looking for a happy thought)
20 March 2013 at 12:59 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I thought for a moment I was looking in the mirror.
Beatrice (looking for a happy thought)
20 March 2013 at 1:01 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Audley,
The cuteness is overwhelming.
WMDKitty -- Survivor
20 March 2013 at 1:22 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
3. Pie or cake?
Now, now, there’s room for both pie and cake, as well as a whole host of other dessert-y goodness!
PSG (pharmscigrad)
20 March 2013 at 1:50 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
[personal rant]
I know people don’t know any better than to say these things, but the answer to, “Wow, you look good, have you lost weight?” is “Yes, I have lost weight.” When you follow that up with a question of “how” the honest answer is semi-chronic/chronic pain, the medications to manage that pain, appetite suppressant side effects of some of those medications, and the medical interventions to alleviate some of that pain.
What’s fucked up is that I’ve said as much to some people and still had them look at me with *envy*, as though living with pain is worth it to be thinner. IT. IS. NOT. I can’t even go and exercise because of the pain. I forget to eat meals because I don’t get hungry. I can’t grok that people truly believe that being sick and thinner is better than healthy and heavier. It astounds me. It cuts me in a place so deep I can’t quite express it because there is nothing more a sick person wants than health and to hear someone so callously disregard something I consider so precious breaks a piece of me each time I hear it.
And I can’t not hear it, I will continue to hear it, because to speak of a person’s weight loss is a positive thing, never a negative – so I will be exposed to this again and again, with the choice to lie or confront people with my painful reality, then open myself up to the effects of our culture. Thanks to each of you for the safe space to vent this anguish, this final straw unknowingly placed upon me tonight by a lovely person who means only the best.
[/personal rant]
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*big hugs* to Crudely Wrott and Cerberus
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I enjoyed your grace, thumper1990.
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blf that was a joy to read for me, since I don’t actually have to deal with it on a regular basis (or do I?)… Thanks for sharing!
mildlymagnificent
20 March 2013 at 2:19 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I remember getting my own personal lesson on this 30+ years ago. Waiting for the lift in the office foyer, a woman who I knew but had never worked with walked up beside me. She’d lost weight. I almost remarked on it, but we didn’t know each other well (and I knew she was not terribly fond of the wildradicalcommunist union committee person, me.) So I said nothing apart from the usual good morning. She was dead within a few months – obviously the “weight loss” was really her wasting away from advancing cancer. I’ve never remarked on apparent weight loss since. If someone’s proud of sticking to a new eating plan and getting healthier by getting to a certain weight, they will tell me. Anyway, I can always remark on a nice new outfit, which such people are usually wearing.
Exercise? Pain? I get so sick and tired of being sick and tired out by pain. One daughter went to an initial pain management seminar before signing up for a course for that specific qualification. (She didn’t do it in the end.) She came home all enthused about a “new” method of controlling your pain by limiting your activity which they’d heard about in one session. All these suffering people who now live normal lives and take no drugs! Goodo, mustn’t disappoint the keen and eager daughter, willing to help her blighted parent. Do whatever you want, but stop it the instant you feel any pain. Rest for 15-20 minutes then try again. Never, never, ever push through the pain because you want to get something done now. That’s harmful.
Out into the garden I go. 5 minutes on, I’m out for 20 minutes. Rinse and repeat. 2 hours later, I’m utterly exhausted and got nothing at all done (as near as dammit is to swearing). I may know it’s “harmful”, but sometimes I’m willing to pay the two or more days in bed price for getting something done – even if it’s a trivial task by ‘normal’ standards.
Amblebury
20 March 2013 at 2:22 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Heyo!
Millicent, have you seen the animated flick Flushed Away? Because there’s a great addition to your ‘nym in it. You could be a Millicent Bystander.
Amblebury
20 March 2013 at 2:34 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Oh, Mildly Magnificent I got handed exactly that bollocks at the Pain Clinic I (briefly) attended.
You know, I’m sure there are some good yadayada people who do good work in the area of pain management yadayada, but really, you sometimes wonder if they’ve ever had any experience being a human being. I mean, garden for five minutes then – stop, clean hands, take off shoes, rest, garden again.
Seriously?
I’ve also had the “Congrats you’ve lost weight” comments PSG. I respond with an air-punch and a “Woot! Give it up for chronic pain!” If you can’t punch, perplex.
I should also add that my pain issues are much reduced since I was accurately diagnosed (by myself). It’s a rheumatological thingummy.
mildlymagnificent
20 March 2013 at 3:04 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Amblebury
This is really annoying, I know. But I’m pretty sure there are some people that this approach works with – but why on earth should that be everyone with chronic pain. (It also has some overtones of yer doin it rong, moral disapproval, if you dare to push on with a task and/or spend a day resting.) Surely therapists should be working with a menu of options which they can work through with individual clients and their needs.
The only person I’ve ever come across who “got it” was an anaesthetist who specialises in pain management. He sees no moral weakness in needing medication to cope, nor in finding exertion of some/any kind too much to cope with. Haven’t seen him for a few years. His personal judgement was that my only real chance was a ketamine infusion, which doesn’t thrill me seeing as it’s not a gold-plated chance of real relief anyway. It’s merely the best among the limited options I’ve got in his view.
At last, my GP has decided that I’m for the too hard basket with all the intersecting problems, so he’s going to refer me to a specialist physician. Someone who has some real chance of balancing the genetic, endocrine, autoimmune conditions along with the damaged joints. Once mr is settled into rehab I’ll get onto the round of all the bloods, scans and appointments that this entails.
rq
20 March 2013 at 3:05 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
*big hugs* to PSG and midlymagnificent and Amblebury… The only person whose weightloss I’ve ever commented is my sister’s and that’s only because she mentioned it first (and it was clearly not due to illness).
I stopped even trying to comment people on their weight loss after Minor Incident, where Husband’s mother called him a corpse after seeing how relatively thin he’d become (having been to a crime scene recently, it was a bit… unnerving); and Major Incident(s), where Husband’s mother wasted and my own father is wasting away from, you guessed it, cancer and chemo.
So *big hugs* all round.
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re: the toad
Interesting, FossilFishy and Beatrice… My sister sent me that photo, and while I saw myself in it, I was unaware it was a group shot of the Lounge. ;)
rq
20 March 2013 at 3:12 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
*sigh* I have to stop yelling like that in the mornings.
SallyStrange
20 March 2013 at 3:17 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Just wanted to let people know, #safetytipsforladies is a very funny, sarcastic hashtag about to trend on Twitter right now. But it’s a bit trigger-ful, as you can imagine, so don’t read if you don’t want triggers.
Lofty
20 March 2013 at 3:19 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Dalillama, the jumper leads may be too scrawny to pass enough current for the starter to work. The original battery may have died completely and could even be dragging down the other battery. Car batteries resemble animals in the sense that if you starve then for long enough they don’t come back to life. The best bet is to borrow a good battery and install it to get the car to run. Once it’s warm you may be able to start it with the dead battery back in and a good quality set of jumper leads.
/weak analogy but yeah.
Alethea H. "Crocoduck" Kuiper-Belt
20 March 2013 at 3:20 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
That toad looks far too energetic to be me. I’m having a sick day, or maybe two: a flu-ish cold on top of my normal fatigue knocked me right out. My doc has decided to send me off for an exotic infectious diseases thingy. So that might be interesting, perhaps.
As to the weight loss, I gained weight mostly via drug side effects. I’d love to lose some, but not if it comes at a cost of high blood pressure and suicidal ideation, thank you very much.
SallyStrange
20 March 2013 at 3:41 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Dammit, I’m in Twitter jail. *pouts*
I love Audley’s baby pics.
Giliell, professional cynic
20 March 2013 at 3:45 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hi folks
It’s a rainy morning, again, but at least no snow, eh.
And I finished the girls’ easter outfits, I just hope the weather will change so they can wear them. At least I didn’t go for bunnies so they should be good for the rest of spring/summer, in case they should turn up this year after all.
PSG
Safe hugs for being in pain if you want them.
Yeah, society is totally fucked up when it comes to weight. While everybody talks about the health problems caused by obesity, nobody talks about those you get from being size 0. Or about the fact that somebody who is overweight and exercises is usually much healthier than somebody who is thin but never exercises. NOnononono, it’s all about your size.
People usually envy my sister who is fucking underweight and has a shitton of health problems. But doesn’t she look good?
Hi Millicent
Yay for Mr. Mildlymagnificent and Mildlymagnificent
All the best for the surgery.
Hope you can regain your energy soon, David
rq
20 March 2013 at 3:52 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Alethea
I’ll tell the toad to tone it down. And have some warm tea with lemon. Feel better soon!
xerxes the magnificent
20 March 2013 at 4:29 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hello,
First time commenting. I’d just like to thank Pharyngula for informing me to the point where my super-intelligent-politics-and-languages-student girlfriend never has to worry about me having typical cis-white-male opinions on certain issues.
Teenage me started reading back in July 2011, about three weeks BCE(levatorgate.) I’m from Australia, like death metal, jazz, fantasy by Robin Hobb and architecture.
So, yeah. Hi!
LykeX
20 March 2013 at 4:48 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hey, xerxes. Make yourself at home. Toads to the right, pies to the left.
rq
20 March 2013 at 5:09 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hey xerxes.
Toad pies are in the middle, but nobody seems to like them too much and we’re not sure who made them. So be careful!
carlie
20 March 2013 at 6:06 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hey yarn people!!! Check this out! yarn bowl with your name carved into it. Cool. Cool cool cool.
Lofty
20 March 2013 at 6:25 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Xerxes
Gidday maaate to you.
thumper1990
20 March 2013 at 6:44 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Morning everyone!
@Millicent
*waves* Hello! Welcome!
@ David Marjanović
Thank you! I’ve done some fiddling and added another stanza (I felt it needed more levity to counteract the rather heavy start) so for anyone interested, here is the “final” (doubtless I will fiddle) edit:
As we are seated
let us think of those who
May perish this night
through a privation of food
Or through lack of medicine
or for want of clean water
Of those whose end comes too soon
amidst conflict and slaughter
And with them in mind
let’s give thanks most sincere
To all those whose labour
has put this food here
So give thanks to the Farmers,
to the Butchers and Bakers
To the Cooks and the Caterers,
the Waitresses and Waiters
For bringing this food
from the field to the table
And pledge to enjoy it,
as well as we’re able
This enjoyment we’ll show
as the evening advances
By abundance of clean plates
and of course, empty glasses
I’ll not labour the point,
I know you’d like to begin
So for now I’ll bow out
and let you all tuck in.
@LykeX
Well done for seeking treatment! I hope it works out for you.
@Sallystrange
I am a big fan of pie, but mainly savoury pie… for dessert, I preferr crumble to pie. But I don’t have much of a sweet tooth.
@Dalillama
Try a new battery. If it’s from ’97 I assume it has old-style spark plugs, so try new spark plugs. If neither of those work, it’s probably the starter, so get a mechanic to have a look. I’m afraid I don’t know how expensive a new one will be, but it will vary depending on the model and age of your car.
@PSG
Thanks very much! :) Yes, that sounds infuriating, and not a situation to which there is an easy solution.
@Xerxes
*waves* Hello!
Ogvorbis
20 March 2013 at 6:48 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
No, my fault. When I feel like this my sense of humour is off. My ability to recognize humour is really off. Sorry.
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Imposter Syndrome. Yeah. That’s me. I feel like I am an imposter pulling off a shitty impersonation of a human being.
Giliell, professional cynic
20 March 2013 at 6:59 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
HI Xerxes
Argh, I swear that the boring, boring, boring editing that needs to be done painstakingly (you know, those things women are supposed to be good at) is much more times and nerves consuming than the damn thinky work
Nick Gotts (formerly KG)
20 March 2013 at 7:12 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
On Sunday I went to a gym, for the first time in my life – my wife and I both. The reason for this being that I currently have tennis elbow, so I can’t play badminton, which had become a significant chunk of my weekly exercise (she does far more exercise with me, and came along because we thought it would be more fun with two). We had a go on most of the torture devices therein – and unfortunately it exacerbated the lower back pain I also have at present. On past experience that will go away before too long, and I guess I might give it another try, but people do this for fun? Badminton was a social event, chatting to fellow-players between games and after the session – but in the gym, it almost seems like it would be bad form to talk to anyone. (Well, to be fair, being obvious newbies, we did get a few snippets of advice on how to use the machines from two fellow-users – alleged staff to give such advice being nowhere in evidence.)
Pteryxx
20 March 2013 at 7:26 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
(semi-mostly threadrupt)
thumper: I just wanted to say, I realize I never directly answered your question way back when; but I do hope that among all the various discussions over the last few weeks, you did manage to find the answers you sought. I don’t bear you any ill feeling for asking and I appreciate that you want to learn.
LykeX
20 March 2013 at 7:28 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
@Beatrice & thumper1990
Thanks. It was overdue, but it’s hard to ask for help when you can’t stand being near other people.
rq
20 March 2013 at 7:50 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Just going to leave this stack of *sunshine* here for those who want, we’ve been accumulating quite a bit (surprisingly) for this latitude the past couple of weeks.
Rev. BigDumbChimp
20 March 2013 at 7:50 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
So in South Carolina we now have A disgraced ex-governor who was cheating on his wife with an Argentine mistress while claiming to be hiking on the Appalachian trail running against the moderate sister of a Comedian who parodies Right Wing Talking Heads to fill a congressional seat that was left vacant because the Governor that replaced the disgraced ex-governor appointed the last congressman to be the first African American Senator from the south since reconstruction as a conservative Tea party favorite because the Senator who formerly held the Senate seat and espoused Family Values, honor and commitment to the constituents of South Carolina left for a higher paying job in the middle of his term.
Ogvorbis
20 March 2013 at 7:52 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
LykeX:
Good news.
chigau (違う)
20 March 2013 at 8:20 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Happy Equinox, everybody!
blf
20 March 2013 at 8:23 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
For those who were wondering, the memo is indeed a “translation” (or rapidly-written parody). I sort-of hinted at such when I said I’d “slightly altered it”, where slightly means “rewrote to express what I’d read into it” (or “… what was probably meant”).
The original was full of vacuous buzzwords and meaningless clinches and babble, as well as what seems to be errors of logic and dubious — I assume invented — “facts”. For instance, the original said participation was voluntary but that participation requires your immediate manager’s involvement: So what happens if you decide to participate but your immediate manager does not?
The statistics, whilst mathematically correct (unlike in my “translation”) seemed to be plucked out of the air, suspiciously advantageous to the company, and unlikely to be an accurate representation of any robust research results. And so on and on. And on.
rq
20 March 2013 at 8:28 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
So that’s why it’s snowing today! Spring** is here!
Wellp, I might need that stack of *sunshine* back; summer’s almost here.
**One of the springs, anyway…
Rev. BigDumbChimp
20 March 2013 at 8:30 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Lest anyone forgot, Michelle Bachman is still a dishonest asshole of a person.
Video here
Rev. BigDumbChimp
20 March 2013 at 8:35 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
one L Rev, one L
thumper1990
20 March 2013 at 9:03 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
@Pteryxx
Thank you, that means a lot. I felt awful for being so insensitive. And yes, I have managed to piece together an answer :) Thank you for being so open, it is helping me to learn and hopefully grow.
blf
20 March 2013 at 9:06 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Arizona’s transgender community fights toilet ban:
How would you enforcesuch a ban? Inspectors at every toilet demanding to see your birth certificate? (A variant of Is Your Washroom Breeding Bolsheviks?)
Pteryxx
20 March 2013 at 9:07 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
well I’ll just leave all this here. Links I’ve been collecting on Steubenville but haven’t had time to address in depth:
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*general warning for discussion of the case and re-victimization*
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About damn time.
TIME: What about the victim’s recovery?
…They sought out other survivors and experts to discuss PTSD, treatment, and the importance of support.
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Other articles:
http://nesn.com/2013/03/steubenville-verdict-response-botched-by-media-as-few-lessons-seem-to-have-been-learned-all-around/
Parents of victim just want everything ‘over’
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/steubenville-case-leads-ohio-lawmakers-enact-new-legislation-article-1.1292925?pgno=1
rorschach
20 March 2013 at 9:14 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Sally @48,
I’m not quite so pessimistic, but I think there will be a bit of work to be done in Dublin to get Mick Nugent off his fencepost. As to the Irish atheists in general, I need to check out the situation on the ground first before making any judgments on that. Although some of the non-slymer comments on his articles by apparent locals were not encouraging(and EG was presumably Irish, so maybe there’s some local solidarity going on).
You have to give it to them though, for a bunch of 5 or 10 creepy internet haters their PR work is pretty good.
Esteleth, stupid fucking starchild Tolkien worshiping douche
20 March 2013 at 9:32 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Why are you in Twitter jail, Sally?
*confuzzled*
rorschach
20 March 2013 at 9:56 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
It may have to do with the 75 gazillion billion tweets from that hashtag she tweeted and retweeted…:P
By the way, is it just me, or are more and more Pharyngula commenters exclusively to be found on Twitter now, like Josh or Jafafa Hots for example?
blf
20 March 2013 at 10:26 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Ok, since the great Mayan Calendar Collapse didn’t, we need a new absurd end-of-… silliness.
Howzibout the incoming “comet” Siding Spring, on course for (a possible gigantic impact with) Mars, is actually the ancient Mayans (and their extraterritorial compatriots) returning to their currently mothballed base on Mars, from where they will bombard the Earth with peas.
Eurasian magpie
20 March 2013 at 10:33 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
@Tony
Re: chi
It was only yesterday when I saw the episode “Superhuman Powers” of the NatGeo Tv-series “Is It Real?” There the two Italian sceptics Massimo Polidoro and Luigi Garlaschelli refute the no-touch knockout of chi practicioners by, well, not getting knocked out.
Here’s a clip. The relevant part starts at 2:36. Pay also attention to the creative explanations George Dillman comes up with concerning why chi didn’t work this time.
Giliell, professional cynic
20 March 2013 at 10:33 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Twitter, don’t mention it. Hopefully I just finished the re-write of the re-write of that Twitter-paper. I would burn the print-outs now if I knew that I didn’t need them anymore.
Now I have a full hour to prepare tonight’s class.
UnknownEric: A Man, A Plan, A Canal, Panama?
20 March 2013 at 10:52 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
When I finished my undergrad Honors thesis, I took the copies of the rough draft, tore them into shreds, made a “chalk outline” on the floor of my room, then rolled around in them for a few minutes.
It was cathartic.
rq
20 March 2013 at 11:01 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
TRIGGER WARNING
(discussion of rape)
on the following two links:
Tired of hearing about ‘rape culture’? You’re part of the problem.
An informative breakdown about false rape accusations and why they’re not much of an argument.
blf
20 March 2013 at 11:07 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Whilst following various links about comet C/2013 A1 (Siding Spring), I found this rather hilarious spam (the links where already stripped out):
The nutter who spewed the above is apparently a graduate of Bob Jones University, with a major in Bible and a minor in Biology:
Snickers uncontrollably. (Everyone wonders what he did now…)
rq
20 March 2013 at 11:22 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
My left thumb has a tendency to tremor lately. It’s either sleeplessness, stress, or something else I should be worried about.
I don’t know if I’m worried or just need more sleep.
Rev. BigDumbChimp
20 March 2013 at 11:38 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
This is what we are dealing with.
Please note the Fox News comment down the page.
You will need a facebook account to see it.
Rev. BigDumbChimp
20 March 2013 at 11:39 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
And it’s real. I know the Andy guy.
Lynna, OM
20 March 2013 at 12:42 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Legally require me to take someone else’s name? Really?
Pteryxx
20 March 2013 at 1:01 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Lynna #120 – I think Skepchick or Jezebel or somebody already debunked that poll because of the wording. I don’t have the link to hand though (i know, right?)
Lynna, OM
20 March 2013 at 1:04 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Earlier we discussed the great leap forward in women’s rights that leaders of the mormon church are taking: they are going to allow women to lead prayers during their General Conference in April. Whoop-de-fucking-doo.
For contrast, here’s a quote from a woman who nurtured, who honed her intellect despite the mormon church; a woman who fought LDS propaganda against passage of the Equal Rights Amendment, a woman who was finally excommunicated for being a smarter than the patriarchs by several orders of magnitude. Sonia Johnson wrote:
Thanks to Steve Benson for highlighting the text from “From Housewife to Heretic: One Woman’s Struggle for Equal Rights and Her Excommuncation from the Mormon Church” [Garden City, New York: Anchor Books, 1983], pp. 400-03
Lynna, OM
20 March 2013 at 1:35 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Chasing down Michelle’s Bachmann’s lies and exaggeration:
Anderson Cooper. This link includes video of Cooper summarizing Bachmann’s past failures to vet her factoids, and video of an amusing sequence in which a reporter chases her down to question her about the CPAC speech.
Glenn Kessler at the Washington Post. This article takes on the thankless task of fact-checking all of the claims Bachmann made in her recent CPAC speech. Some of her factoids were based on a self-published book “Presidential Perks Gone Royal,” by Republican lobbyist Robert Keith Gray. None of the claims in the book were sourced. Bachmann may have just read a summary of the book posted on the Daily Caller.
Excerpt from the Washington Post article:
And now, our dear dead-eyed Ms. Bachmann is blithely repeating the dog handler story at CPAC in order to condemn Obama for his lifestyle of excess and debauchery.
Lynna, OM
20 March 2013 at 1:41 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Pteryxx @121
Not only that, but the poll, though still up, was referring to a paper and data that is over three years old. So, I really fucked up on that one.
Lynna, OM
20 March 2013 at 1:52 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
JP Morgan is not a farmer, but JP Morgan is using the House Agricultural Committee as a venue for passing deregulation laws.
Bankers were recently called on the carpet for the “London Whale” trades, with Elizabeth Warren being one of the sharpest interrogators. But you would be wrong to assume that JP Morgan and other bankers are slowed down or inconvenienced by this attention.
The world’s largest banks love the House Agricultural Committee, and they court the members thereof.
You will be fucked over by bankers, if not one way, then another.
Salon link. This is current.
Bloomberg News link for background on the methods JP Morgan used to hide trades banned by the Volcker rule.
David Marjanović
20 March 2013 at 1:53 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
…Oh. Pie is evil, then.
Oh. That could be a rain frog. Here’s another! Mwa ha ha ha haaaaah.
Not happening so far – I did manage to go to the museum, but then I read 78 pages of #whatshouldwecallgradschool (a blog on Tumblr). I’ll spam this place with links later.
Over here the sunshine stopped when the weekend was over. BTW, it’s still winter, with 10 cm of snow! And next weekend the temperatures are going to double down! *mad cackling*
Yeah. Two would make French sense. But Bachmann instead bears the name of a male Italian.
It’s not just you, and I’m not happy about it.
And one click away is this…
I got spam about submitting my biography to Who’s Who, without a qualification like “in the East”. Repeatedly. Given the fact that the believers are often the credulous ones, I do wonder…
Anyway. That’s only been 3 links! I must add 2 more, then!
When people ask me what helped get me into grad school. Concept doesn’t apply where I come from.
Dreaming about pipetting :-}
Lynna, OM
20 March 2013 at 1:59 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Reno Saccoccia new about the Steubenville rape early on, but he did not report it.
Why does this head football coach still have a job?
http://deadspin.com/why-does-steubenvilles-football-coach-still-have-his-j-455800918
David Marjanović
20 March 2013 at 2:00 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
When I try to borrow reagents from another lab :-} – hasn’t happened to me…
Trying to get all of my data into a 15-minute talk – happens to me all the time!
Why I want to sell out to industry – I can’t, I’m not an oil geologist…
The only way to get my PI to meet with me – not sure what a PI is, but there are definitely scientists like that… Exceedingly cute, but potential trigger warning for people who’ve been held down.
When the best lab tech is retiring
David Marjanović
20 March 2013 at 2:05 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
At any event with free beer
What really happens at conferences – oh yes, it does, right before the after-hours party.
Getting pulled away from my thesis by interesting side projects – so very familiar…
When you look too closely at my data – oh no. Not mine. I’m careful, not like some other people. :-]
The helpfulness of tech support!
ChasCPeterson
20 March 2013 at 2:09 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
It’s a Big Science term for the Boss: the person who gets the grants and thereby employs a lab’s worth of postdocs, grad students, and techs.
David Marjanović
20 March 2013 at 2:09 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
After exams – warning: cute overload.
When I can’t find the paper I’m looking for – I’ve spent hours at a time in Google Scholar that way.
Thesis proposals! See also: grant proposals! That’s what they really are like.
Most beautiful polyurethane catastrophe ever.
When my friends ask if I’m dating anyone
ChasCPeterson
20 March 2013 at 2:09 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
oops: Principal Investigator. (it’s NIH/NSF jargon for the responsible party on a grant).
Ogvorbis
20 March 2013 at 2:10 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Chas:
I thought it was a Private Investigator (See Magnum, PI, for example).
David Marjanović
20 March 2013 at 2:14 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
…I have no idea how that last line got bolded… that’s not in the HTML… oh. Wait. I wanted to close the <b> tag behind “warning”. Instead I put </a> there. Then a miracle happened, and…
Anyway. Life as a grad student! It’s true. Just don’t ask me where they got that “Publish” button, it’s not from Manuscript Central.
David Marjanović
20 March 2013 at 2:15 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
*headdesk* I did it again. I wanted to put </b> behind “no idea”, and instead wrote </a>
Off to… work, where I don’t need to write HTML.
David Marjanović
20 March 2013 at 2:17 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Ah, thanks.
Lynna, OM
20 March 2013 at 2:17 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
“Where Would We Be Without Oil, Gas, & Mining?” is the theme of the Earth Day poster contest in Utah.
Earlier in the year, several alarming articles made front page news in the Salt Lake Tribune. These articles detailed the dangerously bad air quality along the Wasatch Front (Salt Lake City, Provo, Orem, Ogden). Lots of mormons being transported to hospitals for pulmonary emergencies. One example out of many.
So, WTF, Utah? Now you are encouraging your elementary students to create posters for Earth Day that describe “the benefits of coal, oil and natural gas, but not the impacts associated with burning them.”
Both Utah and Idaho legislators have passed bills demanding that all public lands in their states be removed from federal control and given to the states. Yeah, like these doofuses have proven that they would be good stewards of air, land and water.
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/56024796-78/contest-petroleum-poster-oil.html.csp
Pteryxx
20 March 2013 at 2:17 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
David M: …It’d just be too ironic if I mentioned you owe me a keyboard right about now. ;>
Lynna, OM
20 March 2013 at 2:24 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
David M. @131, that “After Exams” link led to video that was too cute by half. I found myself OMGing and playing the damned thing over and over. [still smiling]
rq
20 March 2013 at 2:26 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
David
Thanks. You nearly blew my cover with those. I’m ‘working’ and had to hold some serious giggles in check (I like Dog as the technical help desk. Also, conferences and looking closely at data. Thank you for those, especially.).
Tony! The Queer Shoop (now with clucking lights)
20 March 2013 at 3:02 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Eurasian magpie:
Thank you !
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xerxes:
Welcome to The Lounge. The Grog is on Nerd, Sangria is on me, and someone is preping margaritas ATM.
Improbable Joe, bearer of the Official SpokesGuitar
20 March 2013 at 3:03 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Twitter!!! I love Twitter!
Also, I’m making homemade potato chips tonight. Three flavors: salty, extra salty, and jalapeño lime. *grins*
Ogvorbis
20 March 2013 at 3:09 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
iJoe:
Be careful. If you get the lime wet, it can burn.
Lynna, OM
20 March 2013 at 3:18 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
David M., I also liked “At any event with free beer,” which reminded me how much I admired Thor’s manners when I watched that movie.
I guess that says more about me than I should have revealed.
Millicent
20 March 2013 at 3:20 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Thanks everyone for your warm welcomes. :) I even posted on a thread that isn’t this thread! What an adventurer, heh.
Improbable Joe, do you deep-fry the chips, or cook them in a pan on the stovetop?
Beatrice (looking for a happy thought)
20 March 2013 at 3:22 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
major potato chips craving
David Marjanović
20 March 2013 at 3:25 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Why? What’s ironic about that? :-)
^_^
…
:-D :-D :-D
Day saved!
You don’t like people?
David Marjanović
20 March 2013 at 3:31 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I know that feeling. *crams some into USB port*
Improbable Joe, bearer of the Official SpokesGuitar
20 March 2013 at 3:35 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Ogvorbis, different lime. The citrus fruit, not the backyard corpse-pit stuff. Not that I have a backyard corpse-pit… ummmm… yeah.
Millicent, I guess I’ll be frying them in a skillet? I haven’t done this before, so… wish me luck? It is two days before grocery shopping day, and I don’t have a lot of money but I do have a whole bunch of potatoes.
Lynna, OM
20 March 2013 at 3:37 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Reince Priebus, Republican National Committee Chairman, wants the GOP to appear welcoming to gays — as long as they don’t demand equal rights.
Priebus and cohorts recently came out with an “autopsy” describing why Republicans failed to win the Presidency, and prescribing cures. “Autopsy” is the right word for their dead party.
Needless to say, the cures prescribed were all superficial, and no major policy changes were suggested. Nevertheless, Priebus got into trouble for vaguely, not-really considering gays to be deserving of respect. So what did he do? He walked that talk back of course.
http://www.salon.com/2013/03/20/reince_priebus_begins_his_walk_back/
Beatrice (looking for a happy thought)
20 March 2013 at 3:39 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
*frantically collects every last crumble from the port*
thanks, David!
Lynna, OM
20 March 2013 at 3:40 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
No. I just it find it very appealing to break stuff, (like cups), as a show of how happy and pleased one is. Hence my love affair with the Thor character.
Esteleth, stupid fucking starchild Tolkien worshiping douche
20 March 2013 at 3:42 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Why are there chips coming from my USB port? David, you seem to have mis-aimed.
Beatrice (looking for a happy thought)
20 March 2013 at 3:47 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I lost a word. Chips crumble into small pieces (I first typed peaces), but those are not called crumbles (crumble is a cake thing).
Time for bed, I guess.
Millicent
20 March 2013 at 3:56 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
@Improbable Joe
Good luck! Do you have cast iron? That is definitely the way I would go, if I had my choice. Will you be slicing the potatoes by hand, or do you have a vegetable slicer or a mandoline? Sorry for grilling you about this; I trained as a chef and have done a fair bit of kitchen work, so I’m always curious about what people are doing with food. I hope they turn out awesome. :)
morgan
20 March 2013 at 3:56 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
iJoe, have fun with the home made p’toe chips. I’ve made them and frying them can get tricky. A deep fryer works much, much better than a fry pan. Let us know how it turn out.
David Marjanović
20 March 2013 at 4:00 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Sign the petition to the German minister of the environment not to cut funding for renewable power sources.
Are you sure you don’t want any? :-) :-) :-)
Crumbs?
Improbable Joe, bearer of the Official SpokesGuitar
20 March 2013 at 4:03 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Millicent,
No cast iron pan, I’m using a cheap non-stick skillet… I’ll probably get one this weekend. Slicing with a mandoline, and I’ll be experimenting with the thickness a bit. I’m NOT trained as a chef, so I’m just winging it.
morgan,
I hate deep fryers. They never seem to get clean enough…
Beatrice (looking for a happy thought)
20 March 2013 at 4:09 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
David,
Aha! Crumb
lesGah, I’m stupid sometimes.
Millicent
20 March 2013 at 4:20 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
@Improbable Joe
It’s good that you’ve got the mandoline. I have yet to eat hand-sliced chips that come out properly; they are always uneven. And you have a lot of potatoes, you said, so the experimenting should be fun.
Now I want potatoes. I have no idea if this stupid Paleo thing does jack shit, but I have completely run out of pain relief options, so I’m trying this. Does anyone know of a good takedown of the Paleo diet? I saw that Jen had posted a little bit about it, but I don’t have a copy of that book yet. There’s a strong contigent of pro-Paleo people in MS world, but there’s (shockingly!) not very good evidential support for their claims.
The only real benefit I see thus far (it’s been a little over a month) is that since I’m making a point to eat more veg, the rest of my family is eating more veg. So, yay for that, I suppose. Otherwise it strikes me as complete bullshit.
Portia
20 March 2013 at 4:27 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hello Lounge. A bit rupt from the long drive back from Michigan (I usually avoid reading while driving ;)) but I’ll be caught up before long. I’m exhausted. Sad to leave the family, but happy to have had a whole week with them. I think my mom actually gets a little depressed after I leave, so I always hate to cause that. …I might get a little depressed myself, actually. Anyway. Hi all.
rq
20 March 2013 at 4:28 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Millicent
I’m still in search of a good takedown of the Paleo diet, as well.
The best I’ve seen so far is some ridicule about what Paleo people would really eat (locusts and stalks of grass and only local, which means tree bark and stuff in winter for my latitudes ;) ), and I always make fun of My Friend the Libertarian (Who Also Eats Paleo) that, if he wants to be a real caveman, he has to catch fish with his teeth… But I suppose that doesn’t help much.
My sister has made some attempts at the Paleo diet, and mostly what she says is that it makes her pay attention to what she eats, rather than having any sort of intrinsic health value on its own. Yes, fresh fruits and vegetables (local, with less stuff on them during transportation) are very good for you; yes, eating a lot of carbs in a sedentary diet will do you harm; but (and to my mind, as well) we are not cavemen, not in shape and not in activity level, and since the Paleo diet limits the consumption of cheese (any kind), I can’t take it seriously.
Plus it contradicts all those diets that say vegetable oil is better, because it says animal fats are better (for cooking).
My Paleo Friend (Who Is Also a Libertarian), however, swears that the diet gives him more energy. I think it’s because he started exercising more regularly and started paying attention to what and that he eats at all.
The purpose of this long ramble was to inform that no, I do not have a takedown, nor do I know of one, btu I have opinions. ;)
rq
20 March 2013 at 4:29 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Oh hi Portia, *hugs* and welcome back! ;)
Pteryxx
20 March 2013 at 4:39 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Re Steubenville: ** warning ** this is gross.
Steubenville Rapist to appeal because “His brain isn’t fully developed yet”
David Marjanović
20 March 2013 at 4:48 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
If it hasn’t developed to that point yet, I seriously fear it never will. Lack of enthusiasm from the other side isn’t that hard to notice.
Pteryxx
20 March 2013 at 4:50 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Also, Jane Doe is the same age. Really now?
rq
20 March 2013 at 4:57 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Should not have read that link. *grossed out*
glodson
20 March 2013 at 5:02 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
@Pteryxx
Wait…. wasn’t he tried as a juvenile? Isn’t that the acknowledgement that there might be some room for development?
Besides, the article points out several reasons why this is bullshit.
Don’t get me wrong, it is true that the brain at that point isn’t fully developed. However, it is a bullshit excuse, a means to attempt to dodge accepting responsibility for his crimes. It is disgusting.
Also… fuck CNN.
Tony! The Queer Shoop (now with clucking lights)
20 March 2013 at 5:39 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Fuck.
My heart goes out to Jane Doe. I hope she (and her family) are able to get some privacy soon.
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And seriously, “my brain is not fully developed”?
It is truly scary to think that rape is so minimized that someone could think __not raping__ is somehow separate from whatever morals and ethics he *had* developed.
This makes me wonder though, for all the faults of religious beliefs, children are often imparted with some ethics and a system of morality over the course of their youth.
Help those in need.
Do not steal.
Do not cheat.
Where is _do not rape_?
We already know sex education in America’s young women and men is sorely lacking. Add to that, the very real possibility that children-growing up in a rape culture-are not even taught the fundamentals of bodily autonomy and consent…? That is scary plus some.
glodson
20 March 2013 at 5:40 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
For something lighter…. Beowulf, as understood by Creationists.
Millicent
20 March 2013 at 5:46 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
rq
Yeah, this is the feeling I’m getting too: if there is a benefit, I think it’s just that I’m cooking more, relying less on take-out, and not eating as much sugary processed stuff. Inherent value looks questionable.
And this. I’ve already added some dairy back into my diet, with no adverse effects as far as I can tell. Given my northern European ancestry, I don’t find this surprising.
I had to take a break from Steubenville stuff. Too rage-inducing.
Hekuni Cat, MQG
20 March 2013 at 5:51 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Mostly threadrupt.
mildlymagnificent – I hope mrmagnificent’s recovery is swift. *hugs*
Crudely Wrott – Good luck. *gentle hugs and chocolate*
Millicent and xerxes – Welcome to the Lounge!
Audley – Squee!
David – *pouncehug*
Hi Portia!
glodson
20 March 2013 at 5:52 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Based on everything I’ve read, I would say these young men knew they didn’t have consent. They knew. And they didn’t care. They felt they were entitled. They were stars, big time football heroes in the area. They knew the coach would take care of them, and the coach tried. Fuck, the entire fucking town tried.
A few years ago… this would have worked. They would have gotten away with it. They tweeted about it, plastered their crimes everywhere. But it was okay, she was their toy.
Rape Culture combined with a small town’s tendency to worship fucking high school football is scary.
All those who tried to cover the crimes need to be put on trial as well. They created this mess, they taught these kids that they were special. They treated this kids like they were special. And they were ready to sacrifice this girl for their sport. I would also love to see the High School lose their football team.
Maybe that will send a message to the coaches, and parents.
Muse
20 March 2013 at 5:59 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
My problem with Paleo is that it’s a little unclear on how evolution works….
Hekuni Cat, MQG
20 March 2013 at 6:05 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Muse – *pouncehug*
carlie
20 March 2013 at 6:10 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Oh, we absolutely teach them the opposite. Look at the way children are handled, and I mean that in the physical sense of “handled”. You pick them up when you want to, or hold their hand when you want to, not when they want you to (although sometimes that’s necessary, like in traffic). You force them to let Aunt Edna kiss and hug them when she comes to visit, even though they have no clue who she is. You play games of “surprise” tickling. When they try to refuse a kiss goodnight from you, you feel hurt and try to badger them into it, or just do it anyway. When little kids hit each other, more often than not the corrective action taken is to make the hitter touch the victim nicely, to teach them the concept of “nice touch” v. “bad touch”, never mind if the victim doesn’t want to be touched at all. It was a constant struggle as my kids were little to not just smother them with the touching I wanted to give, and to hold back and when they said no, to believe them and not push it. I didn’t do that at all when they were really little, because I hadn’t then stopped to think about what bodily autonomy meant and how to teach it. Heck, when I finally did figure it out, it took awhile for my younger child to relearn what was going on, because the entire “game” to him was I would ask for a kiss, he would say no, I would pout, and then he’d give in – it hurt his feelings at first when I said “Ok” and moved away, because he actually did want a kiss and was upset that I’d changed the script. It’s still a struggle now to not try to ask for a kiss goodnight or a hug on the way out the door and do the hurt “pleeeease” act if they say no. And I don’t think I’m completely out of the ordinary.
Tony! The Queer Shoop (now with clucking lights)
20 March 2013 at 6:16 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
glodson:
I agree.
Let me add that I am not asking those questions to minimize the rape of Jane Doe by those assholes. They knew they did not have permission.
Come to think of it, I will not even continue discussing this in The Lounge. I have seen too many people I care about be triggered recently, and do not want to use the social thread to talk about this.
Pteryxx
20 March 2013 at 6:21 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Sorry. I didn’t want to drop that turd in the (currently supportive and huggy) Thunderdome conversation… <_<
rq
20 March 2013 at 6:23 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
carlie
You are not.
I’ve been going through a similar change in routine, where Eldest got the whole touchy-routine, Middle Child is getting something in between, and Youngest (hopefully) will know more about bodily autonomy at an earlier age. With Middle Child it’s been a bit easier, since he’s a very determined and stubborn little person already, and the only way to help him calm down is to give him lots of space. Husband has issues with this, since in his mind, there should be Conversation and then Calming Down, and it’s taking a lot of emotionally difficult baby-step conversations to convince him that it needs to go the other way – to let him calm down, then try to talk to him or go near him. He doesn’t get upset nearly as much when he realizes that he has the option of returning when he feels more ready.
And it’s been a real effort not to pout sometimes when they refuse a hug or a kiss, but also I’ve realized that they’ll do it spontaneously themselves. Middle Child, after all, one day, out of the blue, came up to me and said, “I like you. I like you a lot, a lot.” It made me cry, just a little bit.
Eldest has a completely different emotional character, and in some ways he’s very compliant with the gesture of affection (especially towards “Aunt Edna”-like relatives), but sometimes I wonder if it’s because he’s
learnedbeen taugght from an early age that he really doesn’t have much option.Youngest – well, no concept of personal boundaries there, but since he’s not even 10 months yet and only recently has decided that sometimes it’s good that Mommy puts him down (and even asks for it), I think there’s time to teach him that it’s ok to not want Touch.
Now if only I could convince Husband what it’s all about. He feels like his authority is being stepped on, if we allow (say) Middle Child to pull away before coming back to calm down. Or, sometimes the opposite, when he’s upset and wants that hug, to refuse it until he calms down. It’s hard to explain that what he needs to calm down is the sign of affection. That discussion can only happen once he is calm.
/ramble
Pteryxx
20 March 2013 at 6:24 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Also, recall that when Planned Parenthood’s allowed the funding and access to help teach sex ed in communities and public schools, instead of being banned and defunded, they WILL teach the concept of consent. It’s really, really, really not about saving the babbies.
Tony! The Queer Shoop (now with clucking lights)
20 March 2013 at 6:28 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
carlie:
As someone with no children I never began to think of the many “small” actions we take for granted that reinforce the opposite of bodily autonomy. Damn.
Thank you for that eye opener.
Muse
20 March 2013 at 6:43 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hekuni Cat – I’m here all the time. Just not talkative – as opposed to meatspace.
rq
20 March 2013 at 6:48 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Changing the topic, Science needs our help!!
rq
20 March 2013 at 7:27 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I hate the fact that English is a longer language than Latvian (more letters). I keep thinking I’m nearly done this translation, but the tail end keeps moving off just a little bit. I have to be done tonight, dammit!!
Jafafa Hots
20 March 2013 at 8:15 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I’ve been thinking about blogging again, but my past experiences have been so painful.
I’m tired of wrestling with tech stuff.
I did OK with tumblr (though that still involved hassle) but quit after a while.
Google doesn’t index tumblr stuff well, and my blogging desires center around dispersing for public consumption the primary research I do. Adding to knowledge and stuff. Not even creative commons, just flat-out releasing my stuff into the public domain.
Needs to come up in Google for there to be any point to that.
Sure don’t want to try to wrassle with WordPress or anything.
Why do they make it so hard?
Why after all of these years do blogging platforms always still suck in various important ways?
I love doing the research. I am a researching maniac, and if I do say so myself I’m freaking good at it. Over 20 years at it now.
Writing is a pain in the ass, but I can force myself.
I don’t need to add a layer of having to mess with code trying to get Disqus to work or any of the rest of that crap to discourage me further.
Rev. BigDumbChimp
20 March 2013 at 8:26 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Oh man. South Carolina politics have to be the most fucked up in the nation.
As a topper to my #98, there are rumors that disgraced ex-governor Sanford’s ex-wife Jenny may endorse Colbert-Busch who is running against her ex-husband for SC 1st congressional district seat.
If Jenny Sanford endorses Colbert-Busch that’s SC Political Incest Bingo. Get your cards ready.
Audley Z. Darkheart (liar and scoundrel)
20 March 2013 at 8:53 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Thanks, guys!
She’s been a handful lately– tooth numero dos is taking like forever to erupt. Luckily, the Darkling is every bit as cute crying as she is laughing†. :)
†Okay, not really.
rq
20 March 2013 at 9:02 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Audley
Good luck with the teeth! They’re bound to come out eventually. ;) (Bid adieu to the adorable gummy smile, the toothy one’s about to make its entrance!)
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Well, that’s that done and done. Computerless for the next few days again, but I don’t know if I’ll be attempting the mobile, for [reasons]. We’ll see.
Good night, or should I say good morning already?
Tomorrow will be fun…
Audley Z. Darkheart (liar and scoundrel)
20 March 2013 at 9:07 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
rq:
The Darkling already has one tooth and this is my favorite smile yet, but I have the feeling I’m going to say that every time she gets a new one. :)
PSG (pharmscigrad)
20 March 2013 at 9:36 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
mildlymagnificent
That’s a good way to go about it… hadn’t thought about it, but you’re absolutely right on.
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Fuck. That. Shit. I’m a bad patient. If I’m going to do something, I’m going to go hard or go home. Sometimes I do go home. But stopping the moment you feel pain? Like, what, should I cease to breathe? Define pain. Hell, with some conditions you are supposed to be active through the pain and not moving is actually more harmful. That’s why I take a dose of fuckitall once a day. Keeps me going.
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That’s because there is none. None. Just because the cause is hidden doesn’t mean the pain isn’t real.
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Amblebury
Love this. Love it.
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Giliell
THIS. So much this.
1. As though you could look at someone and know how healthy they are
2. As if the only thing that mattered was the looking good
3. Why is underweight=looking good?
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Thanks rq, Giliell
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David Marjanović
Isn’t it wonderful?! If you need more entertainment, you could always check out animals talking in all caps. It’s less targeted but rather funny as well.
Alethea H. "Crocoduck" Kuiper-Belt
20 March 2013 at 10:12 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Welcome to Xerxes – Aussie Aussie Aussie! um er sorry let’s not do that. I’m from Canberra, where are you?
Thanks for the well-wishes. I am still home sick but I hope to be recovered soon. I have tickets for 3 shows on Sat night. I wish I could do some cheffing. Well, cooking really, I’m not trained but I am a very keen home cook. I don’t suppose adding chilli & cheese & (avert your eyes, Cicely) baby peas to a lean cuisine really counts :(
AFAIK, Paleo is faddy and silly and based on incorrect premises, but the content is not too bad on the whole. More fruit & veg will do no-one any harm. (*Waits for pedantic & odd case to be raised of someone whom it will harm* Oh yeah, newborns. Are we done?)
Portia
20 March 2013 at 10:16 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Welcome in to xerxes.
I’m addicted to AITIAC.
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I’m starving but have nothing healthy to eat in my house. lots of less-than-healthy, though…
/whine
Maybe I’ll just go to bed. I’m inordinately exhausted.
Tony! The Queer Shoop (now with clucking lights)
20 March 2013 at 10:35 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Portia:
Perhaps if you ate a portion of the not good stuff. I know I hate trying to sleep on an empty stomach
Portia
20 March 2013 at 10:38 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Tony:
Me too. It’s the worst.
I scrounged up an orange that was a little past its prime but still sufficiently satisfying.
I’ll do that math and see when I can get (better) groceries tomorrow. *shrug*
Portia
20 March 2013 at 10:44 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
On a less trivial note: how’s work lately, Tony?
PSG (pharmscigrad)
20 March 2013 at 10:52 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I had popcorn… speaking of less healthy, non-empty stomach sleeping solutions. :)
Portia
20 March 2013 at 10:56 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Ooooh, popcorn is a great idea. Except all I have is the slightly healthier stuff that requires a lot more effort, so I’m not gonna get any tonight :)
PSG (pharmscigrad)
20 March 2013 at 11:02 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Well, I have the real stuff too, but I was lazy and made the last of the bagged junk. How was the drive? Other than looooong?
mildlymagnificent
20 March 2013 at 11:04 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Lean cuisine? Having that in the freezer at all is probably just cause for banishment from the chef category.
Speaking of kitchens ….. two rather nice, husky young men have just installed my dishwasher, oven and cooktop! Of course, having no water, power or gas in said kitchen yet means I have to wait a bit to restart my career as best home cook in my house, but it’s all good.
Improbable Joe, bearer of the Official SpokesGuitar
20 March 2013 at 11:08 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Dammit, manners again:
Welcome xerxes!
Everyone,
Been a rough week, drinking wine of all things, just feeling sort of lost, going to bed at 10-11 and getting out of bed at 10-12. I don’t need anything from you folks, but I feel bad that I’ve been too checked out to be much use to anyone else. Sorry folks, I’ll try again in a few days when this bullshit funk finally passes.
PSG (pharmscigrad)
20 March 2013 at 11:16 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Improbable Joe
*clinks wineglass*
That’s where I’ve been spending my weekends. Much empathy.
*hugs*
Portia
20 March 2013 at 11:16 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
PSG: Looooong is the primary thought about the drive, but it was not unpleasant. I stopped after a half hour of driving to half breakfast with my brother, some rare one-on-one time that was really great. Then I stopped at his house 20 minutes further to see his little girls (and SiL) along the way. They are almost-three and eight years old and they had a tea party waiting for me. Then we played hide and seek. (Cute kid story warning!) The almost-three one would hide under the couch I was sitting on and chastise me for not saying “ReadyornothereIcome!” properly. Hearing her squeaky funny correction had me in stitches every time so I just kept getting it wrong to see if she’d keep getting the concept of the game wrong.
As for the actual drive itself: the sun was shining so brightly (humor me and say it varies) for most of the way that I kept turning off my heaters. Then a cloud would hit and I’d be chilly. Even though the wind chill is barely above zero here today, the sun had me feeling cheerful. (Except when a break up song came on…I’m apparently in the “every song is about him ” phase.)
Joe: You don’t have to be doing anything “worthwhile” here to be welcome here. You know that though. Hope to see you around when you feel like it. *hugs*
Portia
20 March 2013 at 11:18 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Ahem. My brother and I ate our entire breakfasts, not just half. *All hail Tpyos!*
I’d talk about how yummy the breakfast was but then I’d start whining about being hungry again, ha. Anyhow, the place was tiny, about ten tables, and it’s an adorable little coffee shop. My brother does HVAC work for them so he has become a regular. It’s a really personal little place.
WMDKitty -- Survivor
20 March 2013 at 11:19 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I’ve had a rough few days.
Mostly thanks to Steubenville (and the surrounding bullshit, like CNN going on and on about how the rapists’ lives were ruined, and not giving much thought or voice (if any) to the lifetime of consequences their victim is gonna hafta deal with.)
And people’s reactions. So. Not. Helping.
It’s pretty well been a week of triggers, and, you know, I knew about Rape Culture. I knew it existed. I had some idea that it was a Bad Thing.
Now?
Now I see that I’m fucking marinating in it.
And I find it disturbing, scary, and WRONG.
So, yeah, pretty much going, “I don’t want to live on this planet any more.”
Improbable Joe, bearer of the Official SpokesGuitar
20 March 2013 at 11:20 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
PSG & Portia, thanks a bunch.
It turns out that I don’t have a lot of “spoons,” and I’ve been arguing/fighting some online lately. I’ve been hiding in the Lounge so much, those emotional muscles are weaker than I remember them being.
Portia
20 March 2013 at 11:25 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
*mild trigger warning*
WMDKitty:
I’m sorry it’s hitting you hard. I know it sometimes comes as a shock to me. I feel inundated sometimes and just have to take a break. Especially when there’s some situation similar to mine that is being dissected or doubted or denied. (Which is statistically pretty likely…intimate partner and whatnot).
*hot tea* and *other soothing items*
TW OVER
Joe: I don’t see you hiding at all! You are so often out there chewing up the rape apologists and other jerkbags. That is, the not-often times that I have time to venture into other threads. You seem to always be out there fighting the good fight. Not that I would offer you any less support if that weren’t the case, but still: give yourself credit.
Don’t spend spoons you don’t have. You, just like everyone else, are not obligated or even encouraged to run yourself emotionally ragged fighting any fight.
Take good care of yourself.
Tony! The Queer Shoop (now with clucking lights)
20 March 2013 at 11:27 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Ah, work is…hmmm…at times frustrating and exciting. My biggest gripe is that the ladies who own the company know *nothing* about operating and running a bar (for that matter, it’s not like I do either). They both have been in the business side of operating/owning a restaurant, but the other locations only serve bottled beer and wine. Mine is full bar. On Pensacola Beach. It is a vastly different entity.
But they want to continue runnig things like their other stores. Their lack of experience with running a bar that exists as part of the restsursnt shows: the bar is tucked away in the back and we had to do some wrangling to get them to accept necessities such as a Happy Hour. They feel that the food should be the main focus. We only have a bar because it was part of the structure. It is maddening because if they invested a bit more care into the bar, cultivating it, they could have an even bigger success than their prior stores. The amount of exposure our restaurant willvhave by summers end will be significant given how popular Pensacola Beach is for tourists. People travelfrom all across the country to come to these beaches. Hell, for the huge gay celebration on Memorial Day Weekend-on the beach-the city gets an influx of people exceeding 100K over a period of five days…from across the globe.
Thankfully, the franchise owner has more experience with bars so I believe once we have been open long enough, he may push for some changes.
Oh, I forgot, my other frustration is that the women in charge run things like a small scale mom n pop eatery. Instead of ordering much of their items in bulk from the appropriate places, they like to make WalMart runs 2 or 3 times a week. They also do not do applications. It is sit down/feel you out stuff. Then theres the fact that they want their place to retain the family feel…which is great in an appropriate location. We are on the beach. We have a bar. Maximize your potential. Then theres the fact that they have no proper training guides. Our GM, first assistant, myself and most of the staff were hired no having any experience with the food. The servers know squat about alcohol in general…argh!
I like the structure of having guidelines, policies, training manuals, etc.
Thankfully despite my inexperience, the company our franchise holder owns has informed us that if we need anything to ask. The Beverage Director for the company (there are like 5 or 6 businesses this company owns, in addition to the massive resort on the beach) who years of experience running snd operating bars has told me to call him for anything, anytime. In fact, he has told me I do not call him enough!
It all sounds negative I know, but dammit I not only want the place to succeed, I need it to. Anyway, I am heading to bed soon. I have go learn how to code liquor invoices into Excel tomorrow morning. Did I mention my peeve about lack of training…?
Portia
20 March 2013 at 11:33 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
It sounds like there’s lots of room for improvement. The “trips to Wal*Mart” thing is particularly baffling to me…sounds like a huge, awful hassle! As for the bar, in all my time in the food service industry I mostly worked in bars with kitchens and restaurants with full bars. (It’s a fine line, amirite?) The alcohol is where the profit margin is. Some places barely break even on their food and bank on the booze. It’s just how it is. People will pay $35 for a bottle of wine that is $9 at the grocery store if you open it and pour it for them. If you have a full bar and a liquor license, you’re a fool to not make that a big frikkin deal.
I’m glad they have someone like you who is concerned with making things work efficiently and successfully. And who works so hard! Rest well, good to catch you for a minute :)
chigau (違う)
20 March 2013 at 11:38 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I’m not caught up but I need to say that it is Spring™.
I am not shoveling any more snow.
fuck you snowfall warning
I AM NOT SHOVELING ANY MORE SNOW!!!1!11!
Improbable Joe, bearer of the Official SpokesGuitar
20 March 2013 at 11:41 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hey Tony, sorry your work is rough, but it is great that you’re emotionally invested and seem to have enough support to make a real go at it.
Portia, I’m good… maybe that’s the problem? I’m feeling better than I have in awhile.
****trigger warning****
I’ve got major depression, and I’ve always heard that one of the real risks with depression is when someone comes part of the way out of the depression, because their lives aren’t really any better but now they have the energy to self-harm. That’s sort of what I’m feeling right now. Things had been so bad for so long, and I went through some horrible stuff and neglected my health and on and on… and now that I’m feeling a little bit better, I’m faced with the added depression-triggering feeling of being broken and useless. It is one thing to feel too tired to go for a walk, and a whole other think to be willing to walk and feel like you’re going to die ten minutes in.
Same goes for online arguing, even though there’s no argument, I’m right and I’m fighting for my friends. It just wears me out in a way that it never used to, and I’m so bothered by that fact. I could argue more, fight harder… or have another drink and sleep for 12 hours. Dammit, I used to be stronger than this.
Portia
20 March 2013 at 11:42 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
*shakes fist with chigau*
Last year on the first day of spring, it was 81°F here.
This year, it was 18°F here.
(What climate change?)
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That reminds me, ‘nother cute kid story.
Me: Can you count those for me?
3 y/o nephew: One…two…elebenteen.
PSG (pharmscigrad)
20 March 2013 at 11:44 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Portia
Hail Tpyos! I just read it phenotically and then wondered if maybe he was a half brother or something. Ha! The tea party sounds fun, as does “ReadyornothereIcome!” which I imagine is something like the letter “LMNOP” :)
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mildlymagnificent
But did they clean your kitchen when they were done? Then at least you would have a clean kitchen, if nonfunctional. Otherwise, well that’s just a damn shame.
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WMDKitty
*scritches* also exchangable for *hugs* or the soothing beverage of your choice. We’re all simmering in it. I recommend the links David posted upthread if you need a happy or two.
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Improbable Joe
I know for me, the more I opened my eyes to the pain and injustice in the world, the harder it was to be a Dudebro Philosopher about it. Even when it wasn’t about me I took those wrongs differently, they affected me in a way they never had before – not that they became expressly personal, but they became much more real in a very personal way. I strengthened a different emotional muscle (as someone said a few days ago – that’s called *empathy*) and that left me more emotionally vunerable for a while.
Tony! The Queer Shoop (now with clucking lights)
20 March 2013 at 11:45 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Argh! Squared!
I cranked the oven on too high and crispified my homemade pepperoni pizza (on a soft tortilla rather than true pizza crust). Ah well, it is still edible.
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Joe:
What Portia said. You dont have to bring something special or worthwhile to be here. Well other than yourself, when you feel up to it. Take care of yourself buddy.
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Aaaaand because I forgot to do this earlier:
welcome to the Lounge Millicent!.
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WMDKitty:
So many hugs. Enough to fill a warehouse. Soft hugs.
Please take care of yourself.
Portia
20 March 2013 at 11:47 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
iJoe:
Recognizing what’s troubling you is a huge positive indicator, I think. I don’t know as much about the ins and outs of the way depression behaves, but I know for myself that knowing what’s going on with me is often a help, even if it doesn’t alleviate anything.
If all I can do is listen, I will totally do that.
You never have to be “strong”. You just have to take care of yourself and not hurt anybody else. And since you’re doing fine with the second, you just have to see to the first.
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Thanks for reminding me, Tony.
Welcome, Millicent!
chigau (違う)
20 March 2013 at 11:48 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Elebenteen is a dam’ fine number!1111!!11
Portia
20 March 2013 at 11:50 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I’m cracking up. :D
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Tony: Sounds yummy, I prefer everything crispified. :) Your pizza is a good idea. I think I’ll put supplies for that on my shopping list.
Portia
20 March 2013 at 11:52 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
…“ReadyornothereIcome!” which I imagine is something like the letter “LMNOP” :D:D Just about!
Portia
20 March 2013 at 11:53 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
When I start failing at html and making tpyso it means I’m pretty tired, usually. Doesn’t mean you’ll get no more comments from me tonight, just means you’ll have to tolerate un=pretty ones :)
PSG (pharmscigrad)
21 March 2013 at 12:05 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Couldn’t have said it better myself.
Tony! The Queer Shoop (now with clucking lights)
21 March 2013 at 12:05 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Portia:
Preparing pizza this way has a few benefits.
1- You can eat the whole thing and not consume 1500 empty calories before bed.
2- it take no time to fix. I put turkey pepperoni and mozzarella cheese on top. Had I stopped it at 10 minutes, rather than 15, it would have been perfect. A relatively light meal, low in calories that takes little prep/cook time?!
3- it is relatively low cost
Improbable Joe, bearer of the Official SpokesGuitar
21 March 2013 at 12:06 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I know I’m too tired when I try to convince you folks to pay attention to guitar stuff… which I almost did. I’m going to back away from it, except to say that a lot of it is/should be interesting to most of you, because you all of you love music and I’ll bet a lot of you love geeky tech stuff, and there’s a lot of cool audio stuff that’s happening that’s the sonic equivalent of the 3D CGI movie stuff.
Also, I want to buy a new amplifier.
The two things are totally related/not related, depending on whether you’re related/not related to my wife. *smiles sadly*
Improbable Joe, bearer of the Official SpokesGuitar
21 March 2013 at 12:12 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Tony,
Do you have a Publix nearby? Because when I lived in FL the local Publix had fresh pizza dough that you could cut sections off of, let the sections hit room temp and rise individually, and have 2-3 days of fresh crusts and rolls and garlic knots.
Portia
21 March 2013 at 12:17 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Tony: noted, thanks :)
Joe: extra hugs
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I feel like I just got hit with a ton of sleepy-bricks. Good night y’all.
Improbable Joe, bearer of the Official SpokesGuitar
21 March 2013 at 12:19 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Goodnight Portia, **hugs back** and I’m sorry I knocked you unconscious by mentioning guitar stuff. My wife similarly loses consciousness the same way on a regular basis.
Improbable Joe, bearer of the Official SpokesGuitar
21 March 2013 at 12:20 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
…
Do I really have the worst, dumbest, most boring hobby ever?
chigau (違う)
21 March 2013 at 12:20 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
ell-leh-meno-pee was the oddest letter in the alphabet, as I recall.
Portia
21 March 2013 at 12:23 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
iJoe:
You can take credit for the Tylenol PM if you want, but…
I don’t think your hobby is boring. Of course, nobody else’s hobbies are ever as interesting as one’s own. :) I have never been good with technical knowledge like guitar-know-how but I think that your knowledge and skill are impressive. :)
and now, I’m crash.
but not because I made clumsy reference to guitar-knowledge:)
PSG (pharmscigrad)
21 March 2013 at 12:24 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
The bearer of the Official SpokesGuitar speaks guitar? But only when exhausted? [/teasing]
The last interesting thing I heard related to music was when a musician on The Daily Show (I think it was Pete Townshend) was talking about how mp3 totally do horrible things to the quality of sound and music which I thought was utterly fascinating but he didn’t explain it in much detail and I was kind of bummed out about that because I wanted to know *why* – probably to have some rationalization for why I still buy CDs rather than downloading mp3s but that’s a whole ‘nother tale…
Improbable Joe, bearer of the Official SpokesGuitar
21 March 2013 at 12:27 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Portia, just go to bed. I’m sure tomorrow you’ll have to put out a fire and then sue someone for piss-poor wiring. You know, interesting stuff. :)
Improbable Joe, bearer of the Official SpokesGuitar
21 March 2013 at 12:45 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
PSG
OOOH!!! I can explain this one!!! Why MP3s are terrible for music? I am all over this one.
OK. I want you to think about watching movies at home. Once, a long time ago, all you had was broadcast TV. It is basically a radio signal carrying picture too, terribly not high-fidelity. Then you had the VHS/Beta/laser disc era, trying to give a better picture into a box that was still mostly designed for broadcast TV. Then DVD came around, and TVs trying to keep up with DVD, and then HD-DVD and Blu-ray and computer monitors and video cards that produce even higher resolution, and now all the forms of transmitting and displaying video images are banging up against the upper limits of human perception.
Audio? Especially audio for listening to music? Audio has mostly gone in the opposite direction. From vinyl to cassette/8-Track to CD to MP-3 to iTunes, it has mostly been a process of compression. Of shrinking to audio signal to the smallest possible components that don’t sound like bricks banging against each other. Video has been about cramming as much information into a storage unit, and making the storage units as big as possible. Audio has been about using the smallest amount of information in order to make it fit on the smallest storage unit possible. So video has been seeing the benefit of technology, and audio has suffered.
I’ve tested this out myself. I have really good THX computer speakers, and pretty good surround speakers hooked up to my Blu-ray player. I’ve compared live concert CDs to live concert Blu-rays. The sound they add to Blu-ray discs is amazing. CDs are mediocre at best, by comparison.
…OK, you’re right. Even I’m bored now. *shrugs*
WMDKitty -- Survivor
21 March 2013 at 12:53 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
iJoe
Okay, it’s really dry subject matter, but your explanation makes sense.
PSG (pharmscigrad)
21 March 2013 at 12:58 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Improbable Joe
I laughed… a lot. You have a really great way of putting things, like this:
Having actually banged brick together in my lifetime, that produced some serious amusement. Horrible sound that is.
But that makes perfect sense. And absolutely no sense at all. If I have a 32MB IPod Nano (I don’t), why can’t we make music files bigger so the song sounds good? For realz?
Is the stuff they stream via internet radio (like Pandora) any better? I am not a music snob, more of an aficionado (of sorts), and I want my music to sound good for the sake of the FSM!!!
Improbable Joe, bearer of the Official SpokesGuitar
21 March 2013 at 1:11 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
WMDKitty,
It would be easier and less dry to talk guitar stuff, really… since most of you own music, right?
I know you listen to REAL music, so I could probably explain things in terms of things you know, since I’m always trying to dial in my rig to things I know. So like if I were to describe my three electric guitars, the Strat would be like the sort of cleaner Pink Floyd sounds like “Shine On You Crazy Diamond” and I can get cool “Sultans of Swing” tones, and the Les Paul is totally 70s and 80s riffs like AC-DC and Deep Purple and early Whitesnake, and the Schecter Hellraiser plays like the whole of Metallica’s Black Album, clean and dirty parts.
And maybe the stuff I say sounds technical, but what I’m meaning is something more like “imagine the sound of this cool part of a song that you love” and then I’m saying “… and I can make that sound happen with my fingers.” How amazing is that?
Improbable Joe, bearer of the Official SpokesGuitar
21 March 2013 at 1:20 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
PSG,
You’ve got to remember that this is a progression, and that 5-6 years ago lots of people were still on dial-up, and that “high-speed internet” was usually slower than what your cell phone does today. So all the streaming stuff is designed for the widest possible audience, which means the worst quality possible.
If you try to rip a CD in Windows Media Player’s “lossless” format, the size of the file is huge compared to MP3, and streaming is something usually lower than MP3. For stuff you actually care about, it is worth buying a disc and ripping it in the best format your operating system will support.
BTW, and just for reference? My guitar amplifier is not only analog, it runs on vacuum tubes. Old School FTW!
Improbable Joe, bearer of the Official SpokesGuitar
21 March 2013 at 1:29 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Anyways… anyone wanna know how the potato chips turned out?
WMDKitty -- Survivor
21 March 2013 at 1:58 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Yeah, how’d the crisps turn out?
Delft
21 March 2013 at 2:01 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
@Jafafa Hots
Wrestle with WordPress? Ah, you mean the .org thing
Have you considered using WordPress.com? The hardest thing is to come up with a name that’s easy, but not taken. The rest is a breeze. Comments are integrated, you even get notifications here on FTB if you’ve activated the WP bar.
rq
21 March 2013 at 2:29 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I’m going to go out on a limb here and say that putting the dishes in the washing machine on the program that doesn’t actually wash them, instead of washing manually, doesn’t count. *sigh* Because my favourite thing to do in the morning is dishes.
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Improbable Joe
I want to hear more about amp progress. Also, day before yesterday, I saw a Jaguar, and guess what colour it was? Yep, the colour of your amp! Something very distinctive about that shade of deep green.
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Portia
Yay for a good trip, cute kids, excellent food and awesome siblings!
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Good mornings to the rest of you lot.
WMDKitty -- Survivor
21 March 2013 at 2:35 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
re: Blogging
I’m on Blogspot, my url is… unwieldy, yes, but it has Deep Meaning for me.
I really ought to get back into the blogging, if only for therapeutic reasons — it provides a way for me to talk about my life, and the shit that goes on in my head, and — since much of my family is on FB — it gives my family an eye into my life without giving me the third fucking degree. I’m not a talker. I’m really not. Okay, there are some topics I can go on and on (and on!) about at great length, and I’m happy to share my knowledge, but for the most part? I’m not a talk-y type of person.
My family — both adoptive and biological — is full of TALKERS. And they keep trying to pull me out of my “shell”.
Nuh-uh. I’ll fucking talk if and when I feel like it, or if I need to obtain or convey information. “Small talk” makes me anxious because I never know what to say, and I don’t want to say the wrong thing, and there are some things I know they disapprove of and kinda have to keep below the radar (like, oh, smoking pot), and I just try really hard to keep things mellow because Dad is scary when he’s upset. Not, like, physically-threatening-scary or even intimidating in the slightest, just… LOUD-scary. (And that isn’t helped by (or helping) my PTSD.)
It’s easier for me to articulate myself in writing. I don’t know why. But it works for me. I’m, like, a genius with words, but I can’t fucking string together polite conversation.
Giliell, professional cynic
21 March 2013 at 3:12 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Good morning
Duh, that’s why he was tried in juvenile court. That’s the whole fucking idea behind juvenile court.
carlie
That’s one of the more complicated areas where I find it fucking difficult to walk the line.
It is easy with the “good touch”. Those are invited and offered. And if they say “no” I have to take it like a fucking adult. And by now they’re old enough so we can play games like trying to “eat you up”. They can distinguish between a teasing “no” and a real “no”. They have to be polite and say “hello” and “goodbye”, but never ever do they have to kiss. I hated kissing my great-aunts of which I had a damned lot. And when one of them wants be caress the other buth the other one doesn’t they are told to respect that.
It becomes more difficult with the “necessary touch.” Often you don’t have much choice. They cannot run wild next to the main road. And I cannot just leave a stubborn 3yo who refues to move forward at the side of the road while her sister has wandered off already and when actually we’re running late already.
And then there’s medical treatment. They cannot choose whether they take their medicine or not, they take it. End of story. But if they understood why this is not a point we can talk about it wouldn’t be necessary to force them to take it.
Breaks my heart every. single. time.
But it gets better.
I currently have to give #1 eye drops and although it takes a while we manage with her not covering her eyes with her hands (and therefore nobody havning to hold her hands) and her not shutting her eyes as hard as she can (and therefore me having to force them open).
I think that our respect for theit bodily autonomy in general makes them understand easier that we will not insist on something just because we’re bigger than them.
Well, we’ve been raised that way. We’ve been hit over the head with the “if you don’t kiss mummy you don’t love her” as children. So it’s just normal that we feel rejected when our children don’t want to kiss us. But I’ve also noticed how much more children love you when you respect their boundaries.
I don’t think my friend’s middle-child will ever give me a kiss. But you can hear the enthusiasm in his voice when finally somebody gives him the chance to say “NOOOO!”
hugs to Joe
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And now I’ll take a shower.
And then I’ll go shopping, hopefully the last grocery-shopping in Germany before the holiday. And then I’ll hopefully get the last small feedback on that fucking paper and then the damn printer can show it’s worth. Yes, I managed to produce a 50 page term-paper, but 20 pages are the appendix
Giliell, professional cynic
21 March 2013 at 3:42 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Well, and since we’ve been talking about kids and snuggling:
Bunnylove (Cute overload)
Tony! The Queer Shoop (now with clucking lights)
21 March 2013 at 4:13 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Joe:
Yes, how did those chips turn out…?
Jafafa Hots
21 March 2013 at 5:10 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Warning, rant.
Re: WordPress, blogger, etc.
I used to use blogger, hated it. Hated it. hated it.
Hated it. Nothing ever worked the way it was supposed to. Their photo implementation SUCKS, so I had to hand edit the code for every single post. And when I posted my tunes, I’d find that they’d broken something every month or so so I had to keep changing the code, or upload my tunes to a different server space and then reedit the old posts…
That’s why I switched to tumblr. I want to blog a photo or two with text and have it not look like shit, and not have all kinds of trouble getting the photo to be where I want it to be. Especially since they’ll tend to be odd dimensions.
Tumbler was a pain to get the way I liked it, and never totally worked right, and the lack of a decent comments system sucked, but I did get a look I liked, it was easier to just BLOG once you got it set… though it never was quite right.
WordPress’ freebie site turned me off within a day or two of playing with it.
There’s really no reason that a blogging service can’t be set up where you NEVER have to look at code.
Tumbler is almost like that unless you want a real comment system,, and it’s no good if you want people other than tumblr people to ever find your posts.
I just want photo on the right, the size *I* want, linked to larger size… text flowing to the left, the ability to add more than one photo, etc., and whatever the modern, better equivalent of a tag cloud is.
If iGoogle was able to let you drag things around how you liked (but of course they’re abandoning it) there’s no reason a blogging site shouldn’t be able to be created where you can drag stuff around to design your layout, or even each individual post.
It’s even worse these days because every company on the web has decided they don’t want to play nicely with each other anymore, deliberately blocking access to and from each other.
I used to love playing with techy stuff, building my own PCs, etc.
Hate it now. Despise it. No longer willing to spend days just trying to be able to get to post a photo, text, comments and a topic list on the interweb, with constant maintenance and bugs cropping up.
And I don’t want my only way around doing all of that to be forced into using someone else’s way of thinking how I should be able to do it, or someone’s walled garden or Pinterest BS or whatever.
I’m not a writer. I want a photo/art blog but with decent text ability. I want to be able to create a non-crappy background.
I don’t want Blogger theme number 3, site number 305,825.
I either want CSS to work the way it’s supposed to, or no CSS at all. Not this “it usually works this way except when it doesn’t” CSS.
Sorry for the rant.
Jafafa Hots
21 March 2013 at 5:13 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
(and no freaking border around the photo! Blogger always did that and I had to edit it out for every one. Am I the only person who thinks borders around photos look like shit?)
Alethea H. "Crocoduck" Kuiper-Belt
21 March 2013 at 5:17 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
@mildlymagnificent, I refuse to apologise for the Lean Cuisines when I don’t even have the energy to take a shower. So there.
Lofty
21 March 2013 at 5:36 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Tonight on the way home I swerved to miss a pobblebonk crossing the road.
Jafafa Hots
21 March 2013 at 6:23 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
While I was pretty active on Twitter months ago, I actually hadn’t used it for months until maybe a week or so ago. Mostly I’ve been commenting a little at Ophelia Benson’s blog and a little at a few other FTBers. Not Pharyngula much for a while, for various reasons.
And slacking off on the others lately too.
Most of my online ranting has been at non FTB blogs and various newsplace comments sections… and masochistically I’ve been spending too much time butting heads at the sickeningly horrible Huffington Post – which is just one step above fighting in YouTube comments.
And spending a lot of time not getting out of bed… trying my damnedest to sleep 32 hours a day.
Recent med problems have just made me a bit hyper the last couple of weeks which is why despite not wanting to, I’m actually doing a few things here and there.
And why I’m filling this lounge thread with useless bullshit.
I’m actually not liking the internet much lately, and apart from wanting to post result of my pointless but obsessive historical research, I’ve daydreamed of cutting the cord and saving my money for burritos.
FossilFishy(Anti-Vulcanist, with a perchant for pachyderm punditry)
21 March 2013 at 7:02 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Ah Joe, you know that I for one am always up for a little guitar talk. Hell, I’ve even been dabbling with my eight track digital recorder lately. I also am nerving myself up to contact my old band mate who has my big box of guitar effects. We parted on poor terms and I haven’t talked to him since I moved to Australia. I hate that I’m only seriously considering getting in touch because I want my stuff, not that he’s a bad person or anything, it’s just awkward.
We had been the best of friends, my only real friend in any of the bands I played in. But he was, and is, a heavy drinker and as time wore on I couldn’t deal with it. I had quit drinking entirely for a few years in my 20′s when it looked like I was heading the same way as my dad. By the time I met him I would have a few, but never too much, and as I got older being drunk got less and less interesting. And so too did being around drunk people.
I finally told him that I would be glad to do stuff with him but only if it didn’t involve drinking. We stopped hanging out at that point except at band rehearsals. As I said, he’s not a bad person but his life choices triggered me more and more as time went on. Bah, why the hell is life so complicated?
Anyway, I have a custom built (by me unfortunately) switching system for stomp boxes and no boxes to hook up to it, and a crippling sense of guilt that’s preventing me from getting those boxes back.
Er, I’m not sure how that turned into a poor me rant.
What I want back:
Digital delay with a tappable rate input
Big Muff
Octave
Vibrato/Tremelo
Boss two stage distortion pedal
optional: phazer/flanger
I’ve still got my Crybaby wah for some reason, and my volume pedal, with those others and my Jazz Chorus amp I can make my guitar sound like any damn thing.
Katherine Lorraine, Tortue du Désert avec un Coupe-Boulon
21 March 2013 at 7:08 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I am looking for – or looking to create in my spare time – a zombie apocalypse tabletop RPG. I don’t know with whom I’ll play, nor when I’ll have time to play it, but I want to find something like that. I’m thinking a game in the vein of Left 4 Dead.
Jafafa Hots
21 March 2013 at 7:08 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I don’t play guitar, but one of my hobby kinds things (until I moved into a house with no grounding) was making videos of old instrument promo discs and flexies and uploading them to youtube.
Not too many guitar ones so far, a Les Paul, and one for the Godley & Creme gizmotron… mostly synths though. I do have some funny 1960s fuzz wah pedal demo discs to do, and ton of others. I was surprised at how much people like this stuff… my videos passed 500,000 views this month.
FossilFishy(Anti-Vulcanist, with a perchant for pachyderm punditry)
21 March 2013 at 7:09 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Cutting and pasting from the “Do you deny that rape culture exists?” because I’m tired and should be in bed.
How I feel about children and bodily autonomy:
FossilFishy(Anti-Vulcanist, with a perchant for pachyderm punditry)
21 March 2013 at 7:11 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Oh dear Jafafa, I’m not sure you should have told me that. I have enough time wasters as it is… :)
mildlymagnificent
21 March 2013 at 7:14 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Clean kitchen? Yup. All the rubbish neatly bagged, surfaces all dusted down, vacuumed up some stuff.
But they’ll be back tomorrow for lots (lots) of fiddly finishing stuff and I fully expect the place to be spotless when they go.
I’ve given up on the shower for the time being. I’ve been pretending I’m at boarding school/ holiday camp in really cold weather and having a basin bath for the last little while. I’m usually a bit nervous about showering on my own, especially when I’m tired and/or a bit lightheaded – but mr’s been out of the house for nearly 5 weeks now. Aaaand, the cold water tap is completely unreliable so I’m now too scared to have a shower at all for fear of being scalded if the cold tap spontaneously turns itself off *and* it’s parts sproing all over the place in response to the merest flick from the corner of a facewasher leaving hot water only coming from the shower head. New bathroom taps tomorrow, so that’ll be all good so long as I don’t get too tired. (What are the chances. Did the round trip to and from the rehab place tonight, 85 kms, peak hour the first half, late night shopping traffic the other half.)
rq
21 March 2013 at 7:17 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Jafafa Hots
Borders around pictures look like shit. I definitely agree. On rare occasions, if done right, it can add something, but I despise the standard options usually offered. I prefer my pictures without, though.
If I had a blog, my pictures would have no border.
FossilFishy(Anti-Vulcanist, with a perchant for pachyderm punditry)
21 March 2013 at 7:28 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Dramatic house. We’ve been told to expect big things tomorrow and today’s (very, very welcome) rainy weather suited this bit of portentous foreshadowing.
FossilFishy(Anti-Vulcanist, with a perchant for pachyderm punditry)
21 March 2013 at 7:32 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hmmm, have you made a donation to Jpegs Without Borders? I hear they’re a fine organisation.
Giliell, professional cynic
21 March 2013 at 7:48 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
So much for Don’t feed the troll
Linky in German
Short version: hater leaves “you bastard should shoot yourself” message on a goalkeeper’s FB page. Goalkeeper leaves it up, people dogpile on the asshole, asshole writes letter of apology.
Rev. BigDumbChimp
21 March 2013 at 8:02 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
this, is just so so stupid
Hasn’t this argument been beaten past the point of deceased equine levels?
Giliell, professional cynic
21 March 2013 at 8:09 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Rev. BDC
If they believed in evolution they’d be beating the fossilized remains of the horse-ancestors by now.
Katherine Lorraine, Tortue du Désert avec un Coupe-Boulon
21 March 2013 at 8:27 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
@Rev BDC:
Well, at least the majority of the 3500+ comments seem to be against the OpEd.
rq
21 March 2013 at 8:28 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
FossilFishy
The house looks promising (at first I thought foreboding, but that’s pribably not what you want your House to be).
Unfortunately the file sise at Jpeg Sans Frontieres is too large for my mobile device.
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And yes, I saw your post on the Do You Deny thread and agree wholeheartedly. The rationale os that’children need to learn to sort their own problems’, with which I also agree, but they’ll never learn properly if they aren’t given the right guidelines at the start. Including a basic idea of bodily autonomy.
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Hey, any progress on that co-musication project you mentioned a while back? Any new ideas?
Portia
21 March 2013 at 8:31 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Neat house picture, FossilFishy!
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Re: kid’s autonomy. Ever since I realized the ways we often ignore it, I have started trying to change my habits. When niece or nephew or any other kid says “No” or “stop” when I’m tickling or playing or swinging them around, I do immediately. They usually look a little surprised.
Katherine Lorraine, Tortue du Désert avec un Coupe-Boulon
21 March 2013 at 8:44 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
@Portia:
That’s an excellent lesson. I wish more parents (like my dad) would do that.
I hate being tickled. By anyone. It is one of those little things that bothers me so much. Every time when I was young, my dad would tickle me and I would tell him to stop but nope.
It’s probably the one thing that bothered me most about when I was dating Jerkface. He wouldn’t stop tickling me when I asked.
FossilFishy(Anti-Vulcanist, with a perchant for pachyderm punditry)
21 March 2013 at 8:48 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I’m open to suggestions about music rq. I had that grand idea in a moment of energy and optimism and since have slide back a bit, hell, a lot if I’m honest, in both those things. I’ve forgotten who expressed interest, besides yourself that is. I think the most common response was wary interest with some kind of indication of a level of discomfort at the idea of creating/improvising material. I’m happy to write something and share the parts, but a collaborative thing was more my goal.
Anyway, all that said, are there Latvian sea-shanties, and does the Latvian word for ‘squid’ rhyme with anything? :)
Thanks Portia, I’m really hoping that tomorrow’s [looks at clock], er, today’s picture is going to look substantially different.
[looks at clock again, suppresses a curse] Night all, I’ll check in tomorrow rq and have a think about musically endeavours in the meantime.
rorschach
21 March 2013 at 9:35 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
(Hope this doesn’t embed)
Star Trek – Into Darkness trailer
Millicent
21 March 2013 at 10:00 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Thanks for more welcomes. :)
Improbable Joe, I am really, really, really curious about the chips.
Good vibes to everyone who is suffering. Chronic pain is just the worst frelling thing ever.
Tony! The Queer Shoop (now with clucking lights)
21 March 2013 at 10:16 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Jafafa:
I had this curiosity in the back of my brain for a while about the differences between wordpress, blogger and tumblr. As someone who knows little about them, they appeared to all be variations of the same thing, with different window dressing.
Your post shows I was somewhat right and wrong.
Portia
21 March 2013 at 10:45 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Y
ou guys‘all, it’s been three weeks since I was supposed to hear about the job. I has a sad. Guess I’ll go scouting for gossip as to whether they’ve filled it or are just dragging their asses about it. I know they filled a higher-level position with someone from the public defenders office (and I would love to work with her, given the opportunity) but I haven’t heard jack through official or unofficial channels about the entry-level one I applied for.Sigh.
Azkyroth Drinked the Grammar Too :)
21 March 2013 at 11:11 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Funniest exam question ever, slightly paraphrased: “Two students are doing data analysis using Mohr’s circle, independently. If one student has a 10% chance of calculating the angle correctly, and the other has a 15% chance, what is the chance that at least one will calculate the angle correctly?”
(Professor Homen teaches Mechanics of Materials lab.)
When I handed in my exam I pointed out the question and asked him “Bitter?” He chuckled. ^.^
rorschach
21 March 2013 at 11:16 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
SC, if you read this could you shoot me an email thanks, I seem to have misplaced yours…
blf
21 March 2013 at 11:25 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
No harm? You’re overlooking the danger it might contain peas.
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Northern Hemispherist!
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The mildly deranged penguin points out that shovelling snow is silly. It’s hard work, irritates the snow (so more falls, shovel again, repeat ad infinitum), and is not penguin-friendly.
She suggests hugging the snow instead.
Or belly-flopping on it and sliding down the hill. (An ocean full of sushi so fresh it’s still swimming at the bottom is a useful landing pad. And does not contain peas.)
Ogvorbis
21 March 2013 at 11:29 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Feel free to kick me for pointing out the obvious, but, um, there were no peas before The Fall. Peas only appeared after Adam and Eve fell for the Ultimate Practical Joke in the Garden of Eden. So a paleo diet would have no peas.
Ogvorbis
21 March 2013 at 11:33 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
This , from Huffington Post, is great.
Delft
21 March 2013 at 11:35 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
@ Jafafa Hots
I won’t say WP doesn’t have downsides, but it’s definitely easy, and you can post without seeing html.
There are lots of ready made designs that aren’t bad for photos, see here:
1, 2, 3. You can customise background and header in most themes, or you can take the sandbox and write your own CSS. Nothing is perfect, of course…
(Hope the links come out OK, preview shows them as about 32pt and not in line?!)
blf
21 March 2013 at 11:51 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Women in science: know your limits!:
The people around me were wondering what I was giggling about
(No mention of the real problem, however: Cooties!)
Millicent
21 March 2013 at 11:58 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Ogvorbis
And indeed, peas (and all other legumes) are disallowed in the paleo diet. For reasons. I think there was some scienterric explanation for why they are bad!, but I’m pretty sure the main reason was “because.” Science!
Portia, I hope it is an ass-dragging situation, and I hope you hear good news soon.
David Marjanović
21 March 2013 at 12:00 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
People!
Near the end of the previous page of the [Thunderdome], there’s a creationist! :-) :-) :-)
I wonder if she’ll ever come back.
Millicent
21 March 2013 at 12:01 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
*scienterrific.
Well, I had to do that at some point. :)
Improbable Joe, bearer of the Official SpokesGuitar
21 March 2013 at 12:05 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Morning…
Chips turned out good, a little darker brown than expected but otherwise crispy and not greasy at all. The lime jalapeno seasoning was pretty awesome, and I had some weird leftovers that I turned into dip for the chips.
FossilFishy, let’s talk about Crybabys… *grins* I don’t really know how to use wah, but I picked up a Crybaby From Hell a few years ago in a trade so there it sits on my board.
You’ve got to get your pedals back! What did you build, some sort of true bypass switch or something? Better have your wah in that, if you know what’s good for you. I think my board is pretty much done. Lots of TC Electronic Toneprint pedals on my board, so when my board gets bored I can zap a new preset into it with my iPhone, or use the “will be released any day” editor software and program up all new delay, reverb, and chorus settings.
Dalillama, Schmott Guy
21 March 2013 at 12:08 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Just dropping in to say hi. I might actually say something later if I have the energy. Depression sucks.
Ogvorbis
21 March 2013 at 12:12 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Aye, that it does.
Beatrice (looking for a happy thought)
21 March 2013 at 12:14 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
*hugs*
Improbable Joe, bearer of the Official SpokesGuitar
21 March 2013 at 12:14 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
*hugs* for Dalillama
The Mellow Monkey
21 March 2013 at 12:21 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Re: bodily autonomy with kids.
This really is a huge problem, and a start of inflicting toxic ideas on kids pretty much from birth. One thing that really sticks out to me is how in popular culture, we often see portrayals of little boys being disgusted by having physical affection towards adults forced on them (“give auntie a kiss!” “blech!”) and this is portrayed as an endearing, masculine trait. While docilely accepting physical affection and doling it out on demand is portrayed as an endearing, feminine trait.
At an absurdly young age, we’re teaching kids that bodily autonomy = male and physically gratifying others = female. Sure, it’s not meant in a sinister way, but the lesson is still there in cartoons every day.
opposablethumbs
21 March 2013 at 12:34 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I’m not here. I am still in the middle of the Great Big Long (and sadly Not Terribly Interesting) Work, so I’m not here, but:
in no semblance of order:
the biggest hugs that are acceptable to Dalillama and Cerberus, and to everyone who has had to deal with horrendous stuff either in RL or right here on some of the threads I’ve tried (with varying success) to catch a glimpse of from time to time (including, but by no means limited to, Ogvorbis, Pterryx and Caine).
Happy (but very small) virtual hugs to DarkBaby and Portia’s small relations and FossilFishy’s Little One and JAL’s Little One and Glodson’s daughter and indeed all the other junior and protoPharyngulites who are going around perpetrating teh cute (sometimes even without authorisation).
Hugs and waves and lemon-and-ginger tea to everyone else, with good wishes – mainly on the employment and chronic pain fronts, but also just general hanging-in-there fronts including amp-building and the University of Monty Python.
Yay for Eddie Izzard.
Yay for young people leaving various assorted churches in droves, long may it continue (until there aren’t any droves left in them any more).
Right, I’m heading back in. Interim deadline tomorrow.
David Marjanović
21 March 2013 at 12:50 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
So many good points!
Huh. Never seen that.
Not over here, nope. 15 cm of snow and counting!
(Have we switched off the Gulf Stream for good? That wasn’t supposed to happen so soon.)
♥
Christ, what an asshole!
…For historical reasons, I’m sure they’re all German.
+ 1
Ha!!! B-)
For fuck’s sake. The human menstrual cycle varies from 28 to 31 days among individuals – and that’s just humans; chimps have a longer one, rats go through the whole thing in just 11 days. It’s not the moon, it’s an imprecise coincidence.
And the implication that, because the moon causes the tides by magic, it might also cause menstruation by magic… *steam*
David Marjanović
21 March 2013 at 12:52 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
*hugs for Hekuni Cat and Dalillama and Pteryxx and Caine and Ogvorbis and Cerberus*
*chocolate*
Dalillama, Schmott Guy
21 March 2013 at 1:01 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Fossilfishy
I doubt very strongly that there are any that have survived, and there may well never have been any to start with. There are no Irish shanties, for instance, and never were. Even for those cultures that had shanty traditions, English (and Anglophone Colonial) ones are about all that survives. There are also quite a few French ones still around, but the Spanish, Portuguese and Dutch (the other major European sea powers) shanties are pretty much gone entirely.
Katherine
All Flesh Must Be Eaten is the usual go to for a zombie apocalypse RPG. I’ve never played, so I can’t say how good it is, but it comes highly recommended. Alternately, GURPS Lite is free, and some left4dead type zombie statistics can be found here. Hope that helps.
LykeX
21 March 2013 at 1:02 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
@David Marjanović
It’s annejones. You know, the one who made this blog and then never bothered to respond to the questions.
Portia
21 March 2013 at 1:04 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Thanks Millicent.
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“We’re sorry to see you go! Let us know why you’re unsubscribing from the emails.”
“Because libertarianism is solipsistic and sociopathic.”
dianne
21 March 2013 at 1:07 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Excuse me, does anyone mind if I whine? Too bad, because I’m going to anyway.
Patient 1 makes barely enough money from social security to pay his bills. S/he got behind one month when the weather was particularly bad and s/he had a big bill. S/he is now in a constant state of being threatened with having her/his electricity cut off because s/he can pay last month’s bill, but not this month’s so it’s constantly late.
Patient 2 has been without insurance and therefore without the med that keeps him/her out of the hospital for a couple of months now. We found a patient assistance program that would pay for his/her med. Yay! Unfortunately, it still requires a co-pay. A co-pay of less than 10% of the price of the med, but still more than s/he can possibly afford.
I’m very tempted to simply pay for patient 1′s electricity for last month and patient 2′s meds for a month or two until the insurance comes through. But I can’t do that for everyone and it would be discrimination to do it for these two patients and not for everyone.
I think it’s time for me to run away and join the circus. Or move to Mars. Wasn’t someone trying to find people willing to spend the rest of their lives on Mars? I could go for that. At least there’d be no more issues about insurance…
Portia
21 March 2013 at 1:10 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Er, that was the Federalist Society asking why I didn’t want their emails anymore.
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Dianne:
I’ll join you. I’m sorry it’s so stressful. At least they have a really caring person working with them.
Lynna, OM
21 March 2013 at 1:40 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Matt Taibbi of Rolling Stone has been live blogging the Senate Hearings on J.P. Morgan Chase and the “London Whale” episode. It’s fascinating stuff.
Excerpts below:
I wish ‘Tis Himself were here to add to this discussion.
I especially like some of Taibbi’s “translations” of the testimony of J.P. Morgan personnel:
Lynna, OM
21 March 2013 at 1:45 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Another excerpt from Matt Taibbi’s live blogging piece, one that works nicely as a summary:
rorschach
21 March 2013 at 1:52 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
He probably is. We just can’t be sure under what ‘nym these days.
Lynna, OM
21 March 2013 at 2:37 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
In case you have been hearing news of the imminent financial downfall of Cyprus and wondering WTF, Paul Krugman explains the situation succinctly:
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/03/21/cyprus-the-sum-of-all-fubar/
Beatrice (looking for a happy thought)
21 March 2013 at 2:46 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I’m really looking forward to the culmination of nationalistic cock measuring tomorrow. *sigh*
(football (soccer) game against Serbia)
David Marjanović
21 March 2013 at 2:58 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Sometimes papers are published by people with very fitting names. I’m right now reading a paper called Early Eocene frogs from Vastan Lignite Mine, Gujarat, India. Second author? Rajendra S. Rana. Rana happens to be Latin for “frog” and the name of the brown-frog genus.
*facepalm*
Did that really have to happen?
Or to say it the way my dad would: Jao Božžžžže, Isuse, Hriste, Bogomater, pa zaaaaaaaaašto!?!?! (and so on for 5 minutes).
Esteleth, stupid fucking starchild Tolkien worshiping douche
21 March 2013 at 3:01 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
David, I will have you know that when I copypasta’d that into GTranslate, it pegged it as Dutch.
David Marjanović
21 March 2013 at 3:05 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Any hope they’ll gang up and just tear the referee to shreds together? …No? Didn’t think so. *sigh*
You probably weren’t here when the scandal broke out. SGBM found out that all of ‘Tis Himself’s economical wisdom was plagiated. It was all copypasta from A to Z. He could simply have told us “well, that’s explained here and here and here” and added the links, but no, he decided to take credit for it all. *sigh*
Beatrice (looking for a happy thought)
21 March 2013 at 3:05 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
David,
Smart man, your dad. Media has been pumping the atmosphere for days. I live near the stadium, so there is going to be a shitton of police around here. The kind with big guns, helmets and shields.
And I’ll probably have to walk home, since the game is at 6. :/
I hate nationalism and crowds at football games scare me.
ChasCPeterson
21 March 2013 at 3:29 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
…but some say that late at night he haunts comment threads to this day, offering a few pithy and ambiguous sentences under the nym of a legendary seafarer…
carlie
21 March 2013 at 3:36 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
dianne,
This wouldn’t help for everyone, but are the patients able to use the internet somewhere? They could apply to Modest Needs for a possible grant. I’ve been following and supporting it since it started – it’s a great resource for small, short term needs like that.
David Marjanović
21 March 2013 at 3:47 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Awesome. Must be because I multiplied so many letters. Orthographically they’re all single…
“O God, Jesus, Christ, Mother of God – gah – why?” Specifically Orthodox (Isus Hrist as opposed to Jezus Krist – post-Classical Greek as opposed to Latin) and therefore specifically Serbian. -e is the masculine vocative ending just like in Latin (it’s an old Indo-European feature).
David Marjanović
21 March 2013 at 3:48 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Gah.
Beatrice (looking for a happy thought)
21 March 2013 at 3:51 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
David,
Isus Krist – in Croatian
Jezus Kristus – in Slovenian
Beatrice (looking for a happy thought)
21 March 2013 at 3:53 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Is it time to again retell how the first words of Italian I learned were porco dio and porca madonna, from my grandfather?
he wasn’t very fond of religion
dianne
21 March 2013 at 4:09 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Carlie: Thank you so much! That’s perfect for this situation! I strongly suspect that they could both get grants-their needs are on the order of $100 each. If they don’t have internet access, we’ll get it for them.
Portia
21 March 2013 at 4:10 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Thanks for the smile today, carlie and dianne :)
Hope that all works out for your patients, dianne.
Tony! The Queer Shoop (now with clucking lights)
21 March 2013 at 4:34 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Chas @302:
Ha ha. Haunted Pharyngula?
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Dalillama:
Damn. I am sorry about the depression. Whatever you do, remember this “it lies.”
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Portia:
Good luck with the job hunt. Sorry nothing has come up yet. Pensaola is getting lovely this time of year if you are up for another long drive :)
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I got a jury summons set for 8 am March 25. A big part of me does not want to go. I have little faith in our justice system. I do not like the forced participation aspect of it either.
OTOH, the opportunity (assuming I am even selected) could be worthwhile and the chance to expand my horizons is tempting.
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Also met another guy on Tuesday (he is visiting his brother-down from MN- who works for the same company I do, in fact he’s our IT guy). Took me some time to figure out he was expressing interest in me (I was working). Turns out he is going through a divorce and has not had intimacy with a guy for a while. He discussed being bisexual and facing crap from all sides. I noted it as one more aspect about him. I did mention the opinion I had years ago WRT bisexuals. I am sure many people here have heard the “xe is greedy”, “xe needs to make up hir mind” or “so tell me, really, which do you like better? –so called arguments. I was one of those. Once I accepted the spectrum of sexuality, those questions became meaningless to me and I saw how insulting they could be to others. We had a very engaging conversation beginning with chatting about sexuality.
Turns out he majored in Psychology with a Sociology minor, he used to be a bigot, until he got educated, he is a Feminist, an atheist, and from comments I have made about my Humanism, he places great value on that belief system. We briefly discussed sex, where I casually talked about certain unique quirks I have and it turns out he has them too. It was great talking to someone openly about sexual activity without shsme, judgment, or deliberate vagueness. Also, he’s a former Marine with some world travelling under his belt.
The funny thing is initially I didn’t feel terribly attracted to him. Not that I felt he was unattractive. Just that there was not much physically that caught my attention.
After talking to him, and getting a feel for him, I find I am QUITE attracted to him.
That is a new experience for me. It feels strange, but welcome.
Now if only someone like this was a bit more local (J has decided to focus solely on the guy he was talking to already. Bummer, but his choice.)
Oh, I mentioned the Deep Rifts in the community, and briefly talked about “guys dont do that” and the subsequent shitfest. His expression of surprise is something I want to chat about later if possible. I suspect that he, like others, expected atheists to be more enlightened about social justice issues.
Tony! The Queer Shoop (now with clucking lights)
21 March 2013 at 4:37 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
carlie:
What a great possible solution!
dianne:
Fingers crossed for your patients.
Portia
21 March 2013 at 4:43 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
From rq:
Beatrice (looking for a happy thought)
21 March 2013 at 4:44 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
good night, rq!
Portia
21 March 2013 at 4:46 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
And a little addendum that made me smile (with editing for the thread so it doesn’t embed):
David Marjanović
21 March 2013 at 4:54 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Interesting that Latvian does have sea shanties.
On another note, a horrible one, sign this petition.
Oh. Interesting. I extrapolated too much.
:-)
Jafafa Hots
21 March 2013 at 5:32 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Innerestin.
Was contacted by a reporter from the NY Times asking about my having been booted off facebook for using this name. Looking into the whats and whys of when FaceBook cans your ass, and if they tell you (no…) and if not why not, etc.
And he can’t get anyone from FaceBook to talk to him. How surprising.
FossilFishy(Anti-Vulcanist, with a perchant for pachyderm punditry)
21 March 2013 at 6:59 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Joe
Oh indeed, let’s talk about Crybabies. I’m not a fan of piercing highs (Tele begone!) so I bought the darkest they had. I can’t remember which model. I’m no good with it either. Part of the problem is that all it really is is a tone pot and the throw on the thing is so short that it’s hard to be subtle with it, well it is for me anyway. I mostly used it to slowly change the tone of my guitar over long periods, over the course of a whole verse for instance. Brighter tones can seem more urgent so using it like that helped build tension. Again, because of the short throw it wasn’t all that good at that. I’d love to have one that was as variable as an Ernie Ball volume pedal.
My favorite use of a wah. Trigger warning for gothy angst.
My switcher is a true bypass system based around electronic circuits designed by Craig Anderton from his book “Electronic Projects for Musicians”. I etched and soldered a bunch of those switches and mounted them in an old computer housing, the huge kind that used to sit horizontally on a desk. On top I wired in a bunch of sockets to plug my pedals into.
The whole point* was to have two channels, one dirty and one dry, and to be able to switch between them or fade them into each other. That way I could control exactly how much effect I had and switch the order of the pedals on the fly. A fun thing to do was to have the clean channel thumping away with the digital delay and have the dirty one fully saturated with distortion. It sounded like two guitars.
There’s been huge advances in this stuff since I made that thing. I know I could buy a pre-built rig that does all mine does, but hey, at least it’s unique.
I’ll dig it out sometime soon and take some pics. It’ll be enough to make folks here who actually understand electronics weep and rage at the barbaric idiocy of my hack job. :)
rq
Having slept on it I think a way to go forward would be to
butcheradapt a Latvian folk song. I like the sound of that song about the flounder and salmon, it would be fun to take that as a start and make some kind of hoardy tune out of it, especially if it’s in any way sexist.Can you point me in the direction of a recording or the sheet music? My idea is to take the melody and write new chords to it, or to take the chords and write a new melody in the finest tradition of medieval composition.
*Actually that’s a lie. The whole point was to spend less time setting up and tearing down. Before I built it I had over 30 patch cables I had to set up each time we did a gig, it was a major hassle and I was forever trying to track down which cable was buggered.
Pteryxx
21 March 2013 at 7:17 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
…The opposite of “dirty” is “dry” ? Fascinating. /noclue
The Mellow Monkey
21 March 2013 at 7:23 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Tony
This story made me get such a big grin for you. Even though he’s not local, it sounds like it was a very nice interaction.
Portia
21 March 2013 at 7:24 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Tony:
Ditto what Mellow Monkey said :) So nice to find a kindred spirit, and fun to have an intellectual flirt-session!
Jafafa Hots:
Huh, interesting indeed. Facebook is so shady… /newstonoone
Portia
21 March 2013 at 7:39 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I think this Malbec is past its prime. Ah well…it’s ok with spaghetti. : ) (Add molasses to your spaghetti sauce. You won’t regret it).
FossilFishy(Anti-Vulcanist, with a perchant for pachyderm punditry)
21 March 2013 at 7:47 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Petryxx Er, I’m mixing my terms up a little. A sound signal which has not been altered is sometimes called dry. I’ve no idea why, and of course an effected one, one that’s been altered electronically somehow, is wet. You can also call the two signals clean and dirty. I mixed the two nomenclatures because, because…Ooooh look over there it’s a squid playing a banjo!…..[runs away]
Pteryxx
21 March 2013 at 7:51 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hah! Thanks, FossilFishy, and if I never learn another thing about guitars or sound quality, I’ll always remember ‘dirty/clean’ and ‘wet/dry’.
FossilFishy(Anti-Vulcanist, with a perchant for pachyderm punditry)
21 March 2013 at 8:10 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
No worries P.
One of the things I’m curious about is why it is that most of the words we use to describe sound quality such as variations in timbre are pulled from other things. Complex sounds that have a lot of high frequency overtones are called bright, and ones that lack those highs are called dark. You can also call them sharp (as in piercing rather than out of tune) and dull. Why is it we have no specialized words for this sort of thing? Or is it a case of me not knowing them?
Pteryxx
21 March 2013 at 8:19 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Don’t look to me, I still can’t figure out sharps and flats. : #
Where did the language for sound quality come from? Did it only arise once sound recording and sound processing became a thing, instead of part of craftwork and architecture in the eras of Stradivarius and cathedrals?
Portia
21 March 2013 at 8:23 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Colorado is a little closer to equality.
FossilFishy(Anti-Vulcanist, with a perchant for pachyderm punditry)
21 March 2013 at 8:31 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Oh, now that’s an interesting question. I don’t know. We have plenty of old Italian, German and French terms for things like tempo and volume but I don’t know any sound quality ones. That said, there have to be older terms for that stuff. It’s not like musicians never thought about sound quality before the advent of recording. /argument from ignorance. Sigh, I really should have finished that music degree.
FossilFishy(Anti-Vulcanist, with a perchant for pachyderm punditry)
21 March 2013 at 8:35 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
My favorite term for a musical sound is “crunchy”. It’s used to describe distorted electric guitars: “The lead guitar in the chorus sounds great, really crunchy.”
carlie
21 March 2013 at 8:46 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
dianne – if you want to email me at carliesinternet at the yahoo and let me know after applications go in, I can target them from my account. I’ve never done targeting before, but I think I know how – donors can’t directly say their contributions should go to a specific request, but they can “support” the request and the amount of support can factor into how high on the priority list the request goes for funding. I wouldn’t need names (the requests get anonymized), just enough of a description/keywords that I’d be able to find them.
Pteryxx
21 March 2013 at 8:59 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Well well:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_musical_terminology
Those are mostly how to play, not sound quality as such, but… music really does seem to get described in emotional and sensual terms.
mudpuddles
21 March 2013 at 9:16 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hi again sallystrange,
Belated thanks for that link re: Michael Nugent’s blog. I read the post by Stephanie, and she has added an update to include this link: http://www.michaelnugent.com/2013/03/20/a-proposed-agenda-for-structured-dialogue-to-move-beyond-the-rifts-in-the-atheist-and-skeptic-communities/
She seems happier about the blog issue now. I’ve liked Michael’s speaking and writing thus far and we desperately need smart eloquent people representing atheism here in Ireland, so I’d hate to see him or his blog get crowded by slime.
Improbable Joe, bearer of the Official SpokesGuitar
21 March 2013 at 9:37 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Ooohhh… musical stuffs!!
I’m guessing a lot of the terms electric guitarists use today are entirely new stuff. Hell, even “reverb” has changed from “how sound waves bounce around a space” to describing springs inside an amp, or how a time-based echo effect mimics different sorts of spaces. And the descriptions can be a little ridiculous to non-guitar players. Do I want my guitar to be clean but dripping wet, or have some fuzzy splatter, sweet warm crunch, or searing sizzling fizz? Because there’s a pedal for that!
Add in flangers and phasers and wahs and bears, OH MY! and the whole things gets ridiculously complicated.
Asher Kay
21 March 2013 at 9:44 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I wonder how many adjectives there are that are used across senses, and if there’s one that’s used for all five. “Soft” works for sight, sound and touch.
cicely (Susceptible to Flattery )
21 March 2013 at 9:47 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
[Lounge]rupt. So very, very [Lounge]rupt.
Good news: wheelychair!!!!!
(Some assembly required. No lasers. No shark-flingers.)
Bad news: The Husband’s gallbladder just tried to kill him. It’s why I’m [Lounge]rupt.
Good news: In the course of post-surgically echocardiogramming him, we discovered that, contrary to what we were told lo, these many
moonsyears ago, he does not now, nor apparently ever did have an enlarged heart, and that it shows no obvious flaws.Bad news: The ER fees…the ambulance ride…four days in the hospital…MRI…echocardiogram…the surgery….
FUCK.
So much for the mad dreams of house repairs, Come The Day we once again own my ass.
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<*depressed*>
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Pteryxx
21 March 2013 at 10:06 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
cicely! Welcome back. Are you both okay, or does the signal need to go up?
Portia
21 March 2013 at 10:11 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
*megahugs* for cicely.
How is the husband now?
How are you holding up?
*moarhugs*
*chocolate*
*tea*
SallyStrange
21 March 2013 at 10:13 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I’m doing a Marjanovic!
This will probably take all evening. I shall probably have to do some food shopping and cooking in the middle of it.
Stephanie Zvan seems to think his long experience in mediation will increase the chance of a useful outcome. I have no idea, myself. But the thing is, though Nugent has said that he won’t let outright lies stand, he’s not doing anything about posts containing lies, which others have pointed out to him. If he’d do something about that, I’d feel less pessimistic.
He even started a spinoff post for people to “discuss rape prevention strategies” since the topic ballooned in his latest peace-making post. Guess what’s NOT happening in the comments on that one? That’s right, actual discussion of rape prevention strategies!
Rorschach is correct; it’s because I retweeted about a million of the #safetytipsforladies tweets which I found so hilarious. Apparently there’s a limit. Then you have to wait a few hours before they’ll let you tweet again.
I was going to post a bunch of quotes from those tweets, but I’ll just link to this excellent roundup of the hashtag by the awesome lady who started it: http://hilaroar.tumblr.com/post/45957899437/safetytipsforladies-or-why-victim-blaming-is
There’s even one by yours truly in there!
I’m not sure if it’s just you, but I am using it more, and Audley is now using it… so maybe.
I guess it would be hard to Marjanovic on Twitter. ;)
Shoot, my roommate just came home and informed me that it’s freezing outside. Fuck this shopping business, I’m staying in. It should NOT be in the teens on the first (or second, whatever) day of spring.
BTW, I wanted to thank mildlymagnificent, Amblebury (heeeey gurl!), and Gilliel, and I think Millicent? for the discussion of chronic pain and losing weight. All your observations are well taken. I’ve never been one to remark on people’s weight anyway, but now I’m even LESS likely to do so. Sorry if I missed mentioning anyone. I’ve actually been keeping up with the Lounge lately, for a change.
Also, I’m really appreciative of the body I have and that it’s not in pain and is pretty healthy. (This weather is doing me no favors; I’m completely discouraged from my running routine and I’ve been gorging on all kinds of snacks thanks to stress and frustration – more about that in a bit.)
I totally understand. It’s been like an avalanche of rape culture. *massive hugs*
For IJoe, too, and anyone else who needs them. Man, I do.
A little person update, because I want to get it off my chest. The other day, some stuff from previous conflict with Boss-Lady surfaced. She’s a control freak and a micromanager, and, I am realizing, a full-on bully. She was mad at me. So, her response was to freeze me out of the conference call with everyone else in the office—a conference call whose ONLY purpose was to “get everyone on the same page.” So, I guess I’m not on the same page. So, we’re all in the office and dialing in, and I dial in and say, Hello, I’m here, and she’s like, “You’re not on this conference call.”
I’m like, “What?”
“I didn’t send YOU the email.”
“Oh. Well, okay, I’ll get off.” So I hang up, and then she is talking to one of my colleagues, and he’s saying something about meeting me later in the day, and I’m telling him that I have to leave by 1 pm to go to a presentation, and he’s trying to convey that to her, and then I’m like, just put me on. So I take his phone and explain that I’ll be away. So then she starts in talking about the older stuff that she’s mad at me about – basically not keeping her in the loop about some important stuff, which, okay, fine, but the response is ridiculous. And I’m like, “Didn’t you want to NOT discuss this on the conference call?” (I.e., not in front of everybody else, including the interns? Hello?) and she’s like, “Yes, but you’re going away this afternoon and so I have to do this now!” Basically an attempt at public humiliation borne out of anger. TOTALLY IRRATIONAL.
So I’ve decided to look for new work. I really did want to finish out the Americorps term, I did, but no fucking $5,000 loan reduction or nice line on my resume is worth this sort of abuse. Yes, I should take it up with my boss’ boss, and yes, I will do that—tomorrow—but hey. One of the private companies that works with the program we promote is hiring and I’m going to submit my resume. Realistically speaking, Boss-Lady may slightly modulate her behavior but I am not hopeful that she’ll ever really stop undermining me. Backstory: she got in a car crash three months ago and has been on medical leave since then, barred by her doctor from working, and in the meantime I’ve been having some success starting an outreach program basically from scratch in one of the neighboring counties. I strongly suspect that she hates the idea of someone demonstrating that in fact, she’s NOT essential to the continuation of the program, and that actually, it’s GOOD to experiment a bit and take different approaches to doing outreach in different regions.
I like the work, I really do. I could even be good at it. But not with this sort of backstabbing and bullying bullshit from my own boss. Did I mention that she once yelled at me, I mean literally yelled, inside a car, for about 30 – 40 minutes, because I briefly interrupted her during Q &A after the first presentation I did? Yeah. Anyway. I need to eat something. Sheesh, it’s nearly midnight, where does the time go. I’ll have to catch up on this thread later.
SallyStrange
21 March 2013 at 10:15 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Oh and of course then Cicely shows up!
My inclination is for a pouncehug, but it sounds like you may need gentle hugs instead.
Portia
21 March 2013 at 10:28 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
What a bunch of gaslighting horseshit, SallyStrange.
Hope you find a job that is a good content-wise and far better co-worker/supervisor-wise.
Portia
21 March 2013 at 10:28 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
*as good
SallyStrange
21 March 2013 at 10:47 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Thanks, Portia. And, just to clear it up, my co-workers are great. It’s been really nice working with them–there’s two of them, so three full time staff and three interns. The other two full time staffers have been nothing but great, but they haven’t been working as the BossLady’s underlings for as long as I have and they’re not on her shit list (yet), so they’re not quite fully cognizant of how awful she can be. Oh and also they’re better at following orders. That’s a weakness of mine. I’ll do what I’m told, but I have a hard time not tweaking it a bit just to see if I can make it work better.
FossilFishy(Anti-Vulcanist, with a perchant for pachyderm punditry)
21 March 2013 at 11:01 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hugs to Sally and Cicely. I’d be honoured to contribute if the Hoard-signal goes up for you Cicely.
Joe, the real question is: Have you ever played some tasty riffs?
cicely ()
21 March 2013 at 11:01 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
*hugs&scritches&bacon&chocolate&kittens&cheese* to everyone who needed or wanted them in my absence.
(After starting on this Thread)
An especially large parcel for Crudely, who I gather (without catching up) particularly needs ‘em?
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mildlymagnificent: Glad to hear mrmagnificent is being ‘borged.
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Welcome in, Millicent!
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+1
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And today is Free Pass Day for lovers of Horses and/or peas. No rain checks, no refunds.
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xerxes, welcome in!
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That is not a frog.
That is a rock that someone has superglued legs onto.
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*hugs* and a “Welcome home!” for Portia.
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Bundled under the general heading of “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you”, I presume, without noting that there should be a mention of “Do not do unto others things you would not want them to do unto you”. ‘Cause ink is expensive.
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In a nutshell.
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Portia
21 March 2013 at 11:10 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
SallyStrange:
Well, good coworkers is a big plus. But it’s maddening to me when the people around me, for whatever reason, can’t see how shitty another person is. Makes me absolutely batty.
Cicely:
I was going to *petulantly pop peas* but then I read your sweet welcome home and just want to hug you back. I’ll hold off on the petulance in the interest of this temporary
peaspeace. :)Pteryxx
21 March 2013 at 11:13 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
aww, thanks cicely.
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interesting and kind of disgusting: the Republican party plans to attract women by a concerted program of Tone and Civility.
http://www.salon.com/2013/03/21/gop_will_never_reach_women_partner/
Is there a National Sarcasm Reserve?
SallyStrange
21 March 2013 at 11:29 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
…Isn’t that Pharyngula?
SallyStrange
21 March 2013 at 11:35 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
The thing that drives me up the wall, and is leading me to think that working elsewhere would be the best option, is the fact that our mutual boss, who is, in actuality, an AWESOME lady who is something of a hero of mine due to her relentless political activism and organizing, does not see that Boss Lady is a bully. She says things like, “She’s harsh but she’s usually right,” and defended her when Boss Lady tried to shut down my new project on the basis of Boss Lady’s mixing up Oswego with Otsego. I mean, Boss Lady was on the phone with me (and this was shortly after her concussion, so I think that played into it), saying, “I’m not sure which is which.. Ossego… Oswego… Otsiningo… but anyway, drop everything, and do something else. I know you won’t want to, but do it anyway.”
I mean seriously, how does that even make any sense? You’re not even sure what you’re talking about, but you want me to dump 3 – 4 weeks’ worth of promising work into the crapper. Right. This is why I feel like she’s threatened and trying to undermine me.
I never did drop the work she wanted me to, which I think is the real reason I’m on her shit list. I went to some higher-ups and got clarification, showed her she was wrong, and continued with my work, which is now bearing fruit. That was unforgivable.
SallyStrange
21 March 2013 at 11:37 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Working in the non-profit sector, I get to work in a really diverse workplace, and I really like that. It’s really too bad, if I do get a job at one of the companies I’m thinking of, I’ll be going from a diverse workplace with lots of women in authority to a really male-dominated, mostly-white environment. :(
FossilFishy(Anti-Vulcanist, with a perchant for pachyderm punditry)
21 March 2013 at 11:50 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
True. But they’re thinking of moving it off-site safety reasons. There are concerns that it’s too close to the Snark Reserve, a potentially catastrophic situation should one or the other ever spring a leak.
chigau (違う)
21 March 2013 at 11:53 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I need sleep.
There is mighty snow-shoveling to be done in the morning.
*hugs* for all as needs ‘em.
FossilFishy(Anti-Vulcanist, with a perchant for pachyderm punditry)
21 March 2013 at 11:59 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
You know Sally, I’ve never understood how someone can come to be in a position of authority and not understand just how powerful it is to say “I was wrong, sorry.” to those who work for you. I suspect it might have to do with the authoritarian mindset where strict hierarchies are seen to be a good thing.
cicely ()
22 March 2013 at 12:00 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
And now I’m having (what I sincerely trust are) phantom gallbladder twinges.
Panic may be imminent.
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*hugs* for iJoe.
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Tony: They are lucky to have you.
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No.
I just don’t understand much of what you post about it.
However, regardless of how many of us do or don’t “get it”, that is no reflection on the worthiness of the hobby, itself.
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Sing it.
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*hugs* for dianne. Your patients are lucky they have you.
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“Personal foul! Fifty yard penalty!”
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Pteryxx: We’re both fine (as far as I know….), but the better part of a week spent in a hospital, whether as a patient or as a Worried Spouse, is not like unto a stroll in the park. I don’t sleep well in chairs under the best of conditions, and now feel as if I’ve been beaten vigorously with a stick.
As for sending up The Signal…I’m fending off the lower depths of depression with the knowledge that (in the persisting absence of insurance) we will have to first file for, and be denied, Medicaid (which took a good long time before, and I can’t see that it is likely to move any more quickly now), then run our application for the hospital systems’ (yes, two, two, two hospital systems are involved) financial assistance programs, then (hopefully) negotiate payment schedules…
…all of which means that I can put off the serious hyperventilation ’til later.
It’s just that the fact that it’s lurking there in the future, waiting to spring, keeps leaping up and mugging me, with resulting dread-in-pit-of-stomach feeling, with added Increase in Stomach Acid.
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Portia: I will gladly accept your *megahugs*. And the *chocolate*.
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SallyStrange: Best of luck with the job-hunting.
And I’ll very happily accept both kinds of hugs.
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And now, the cat craps await. ‘Night, all.
FossilFishy(Anti-Vulcanist, with a perchant for pachyderm punditry)
22 March 2013 at 12:01 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Night chigau. May the Chinook to end all Chinooks waft in as you sleep.
Hekuni Cat, MQG
22 March 2013 at 12:02 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
cicely – Yay about your new wheelchair! *lots of hugs and chocolate* about The Husband’s gallbladder. Also good news about your husband’s heart NOT being what he was told many years ago. *more hugs and chocolate*
*piles of hugs and lots of chocolate* for everyone who needs them, and even for those who don’t.
FossilFishy(Anti-Vulcanist, with a perchant for pachyderm punditry)
22 March 2013 at 12:16 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Good night cicely. Here’s hoping things at least feel a little easier in the morning.
Pteryxx
22 March 2013 at 12:17 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
definitely *hugs* and *chocolate* and congratz on the new wheelchair and reprieved heart.
I swear, the second prong of letting people suffer and die through lack of a functioning health-care system, is leaving everyone who’s healthy to live in terror of utilizing it.
Beatrice (looking for a happy thought)
22 March 2013 at 1:05 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
good morning
*hugs* for cicely and SallyStrange and anyone I forgot in my morning fuzziness.
PSG (pharmscigrad)
22 March 2013 at 1:16 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Improbable Joe
Totally awesome… as long as I don’t have to carry it around! I’ve moved my fair share of CRTs, oy vey!
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Thanks for the mp3 primer! I really did enjoy it. I have varied and esoteric interests – that particular question has been pinging around the skull for a bit, so it’s quite nice to have a good answer to it. :)
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mildlymagnificent
*yay* for the clean kitchen! Tidy workers are the only kind to have. Here’s to a *real* shower soon. *hugs*
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That’s an excellent article blf. Too bad the bit about the author is absolutely necessary these days, else someone believe he’s serious…
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*hugs* Dalillama and SallyStrange
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Tony!
Thanks for the reminder random people can be cool in real life too. :)
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cicely
After an appendix-induced *close call* I can vouch for the phantom twinges that will occur for the next few weeks. Yes, I still have the appendix. It becomes a *close call* when you show up so late there’s no point for them to remove it. [Why show up too late - because crappy insurance of course.]
*hugs*
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FossilFishy: That. Is. Awesome.
mildlymagnificent
22 March 2013 at 1:18 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Yaaaay, but ….
Cupboards all finished and spiffy looking. Oven, dishwasher, rangehood, lights all through the house all light up when various buttons are pressed. So what’s wrong?
It’s 4.30 pm on Friday and no sign yet of the plumber. So the sink and the dishwasher won’t go and nor will the gas cooktop. And I had planned on washing all. the. things. before putting them into their nice new homes. Then cooking something. Anything.
Or maybe I could just sit in a chair and stare at it and gloat while studiously ignoring the stuffsplosion in every other room of the house. (Waking up in bed to look deeply into the eyes of the microwave is at least a new experience.)
SallyStrange
22 March 2013 at 1:27 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Did I neglect to mention that she’s aggressively Christian? Wow, I kinda miss the days when her constant cries of “Praise Jesus!” were at the top of the list of weird things she does.
SallyStrange
22 March 2013 at 1:29 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
The situation is ripe for a heist. Who’s in? I’ve got a tractor trailer.
PSG (pharmscigrad)
22 March 2013 at 1:35 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Sounds like a once in a lifetime opportunity. Cease the moment, right?! (I love *stuffsplosion* – The word, not the situation.)
Or, open a bottle of wine and hope for the plumber???
FossilFishy(Anti-Vulcanist, with a perchant for pachyderm punditry)
22 March 2013 at 1:36 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I am shocked, SHOCKED I say!
What about the guard-squid?
glodson
22 March 2013 at 1:42 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I really should be in bed, and will be shortly.
I just wanted to drop in and wish everyone a good… whatever time it is wherever you are at.
Tony! The Queer Shoop (now with clucking lights)
22 March 2013 at 2:09 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
SallyStrange:
Ugh. It sounds like your boss is trying to drive you away. If you do pursue another job, heres hoping you wont have crap like that to deal with.
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cicely:
Damn. Sorry to hear the medical problems with the Husband. Glad he and you are doing ok.
:: crosses tentacles hoping the insurance to kick in soon::
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A came over tonight and we had adult fun times.
Sort of.
There were issues on both our parts about *blood flow retention*, which made him embarrassed at first. Until I told him that it is ok. That I know the penis and the mind are not always in sync. That once I accepted-years ago-that having ebb and flow did not mean something was wrong with me I was able to extend that understanding to others. I mentioned that I have read a little bit about erections and how often they are not in our control. He was surprised to learn that men get erections while we sleep. I had to mention a few times that no apologies were needed. I knew he wanted to be with me.
Of course, the ebb and flow was not helped by us chatting about religion during downtime. Or me talking about the Creation Museum (which he never heard of) or Talk Orgins. We had a great time overall.
xerxes the magnificent
22 March 2013 at 2:23 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Alethea H. “Crocoduck”
Yeah, I’m still scarred from the most recent Straya Day.
I’m up in Brisbane, but I think the current political climate (and actual climate) are about to drive me far, far away. Probably to Europe, if Tony Abbot becomes PM…
SallyStrange
22 March 2013 at 3:15 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
That sounds very sweet, Tony. :)
rorschach
22 March 2013 at 3:39 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Well, he will. Labor is too fond to self-destruct, and there are enough dumb blokey blokes in this country who will not mind Abbott’s misogyny enough to not vote for him. That, and somehow people here seem to think that the Greens are of the devil. Like with the internet, Australia is 10-15 years behind in realising that climate change is a thing, and that there can be more than 2 parties in a democracy. It isn’t called binocracy. after all.
blf
22 March 2013 at 4:13 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
(Sodding power outage knocked out most of the local servers. Since today’s plans included intensive use of c.3 of them, I’m currently twiddling my undernosehairs…)
In some places this would perhaps be NSFW due to the pictures, which is a bit ironic considering the subject matter, Rise of the naked female warriors:
The Grauniad could be accused of doing just that in this article.
The mildly deranged penguin refuses to paint slogans on her feathers.
(Servers are back up…)
John Morales
22 March 2013 at 4:43 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
blf:
Not for those for whom breasts are the message. :)
(○○)
FossilFishy(Anti-Vulcanist, with a perchant for pachyderm punditry)
22 March 2013 at 5:52 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Well, suddenly the house looks like a house. Windows! Doors! And a fetchingly random blue and green ,er, condom?
Katherine Lorraine, Tortue du Désert avec un Coupe-Boulon
22 March 2013 at 6:10 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Fucking waffles why are you so awesome?! :D
I was walking through the work area here, and happened to catch Fox News on one of the TVs. It was Brian Kilmead being critical about the President (who’s surprised?!) Seems there is a video of chemical weapon victims in Syria, but the President isn’t ready to go to war because it’s shaky evidence, and it’s from a source critical of Assad.
What’s so bad about our President not wanting to go to war on suspect evidence from a source who would benefit from the war against a secular dictator? Hmm, doesn’t that sound familiar…
@Dalillama:
Thanks for the recommendation, I’ll have to check it out when I get home cause it’s blocked here.
blf
22 March 2013 at 6:32 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Belgium — sorry for the naughty word — needs to be famous for something…
That’s been all over the news here (or at least the English-language papers I read). It is only now showing up in the USAlienstan’s “media”?
Syria attacks involved chemical weapons, rebels and regime claim: “Both sides blame each other for rocket attacks that killed scores and left others in respiratory distress”.
White House ‘deeply sceptical’ over Syria’s chemical weapon claims (video).
Syria condemns rebels’ ‘chemical weapon attack’ (video).
I have not read / seen anything (yet) about what really happened or who was responsible.
Katherine Lorraine, Tortue du Désert avec un Coupe-Boulon
22 March 2013 at 6:57 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
@blf:
It’s just something I saw this morning. I applaud the president for not running into another war on flimsy evidence.
Pteryxx
22 March 2013 at 7:22 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Any lawyerly or Washington state area folks, Dana Hunter’s asking for help:
http://freethoughtblogs.com/entequilaesverdad/2013/03/22/attention-washington-peeps-lawyer-recommendations-needed/
blf
22 March 2013 at 8:03 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
New Neil Gaiman (short) story, Down to a Sunless Sea: “A rainy encounter in London on the banks of the Thames unlocks a tale of loss and grief in this exclusive story from Neil Gaiman …”. (I haven’t read it yet myself, but I believe a number of inmates here will be interested.)
Giliell, professional cynic
22 March 2013 at 8:06 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hi folks
Although we’re not going for Rupt sur Moselle this spring, I’m still ‘rupt.
I worked like stupid to get that fucking paper done (the writing has been finished days ago. Re-, and re-, and rewriting, formating and printing, last night) and handed it in today.
And I almost managed to get the whole University of Monty Python shit done, if it weren’t for the fact that the UMP keeps office hours and mail-adresses top-secret, only to be published at office doors and not on the internet.
And packing stuff for spring break is annoying as hell since you need to pack everything from summer cloths to the snowsuit.
Also, fucking magnets, how do they
workend up all over the place?blf
22 March 2013 at 8:10 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
London’s mayer Boris Johnson did not break law with ban on Christian ad, high court rules:
blf
22 March 2013 at 8:15 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Extra-energetic maneuvers?
Rather unusual taste although I suppose they are rather attractive.
(Runs off and hides…)
blf
22 March 2013 at 8:24 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Posting the above snark just gave me this:
Guru Meditation: Varnish cache server?
Ok, who is trying to prove the 1000-chimps hypothesis now…
Portia
22 March 2013 at 8:50 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Good morning!
cicely:
What you said about guitar stuff is exactly what I couldn’t articulate myself the other night.
FossilFishy:
OMG WINDOWS! :D Looking good. Love the big banks of windows.
Portia
22 March 2013 at 8:52 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Because I’m geeking out in advance of seeing “HER” live, have some Rachel Maddow ringtones and wallpapers.
Topless protesters: I suppose they’d get less attention with their shirts on, for better or worse. Which is the point, of course. I mean, the coverage still talks about their message, so it’s not totally obscured by bewbs.
chigau (違う)
22 March 2013 at 9:01 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
blf #380
uhoh
You should NOT have received that message.
Now We’ll have to …
Just cooperate with the MIBs…
It won’t hurt a bit…
blf
22 March 2013 at 9:01 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Witches: from hideous hags to sexy sirens — in pictures: “The Witches and Wicked Bodies exhibition coming soon to the Scottish National Gallery of Modern Art explores how myth, legend and folk belief have shaped the depiction of witches over the past 500 years. Packed with sensuality and magic, these works show why witchcraft has cast a spell on artists for so long”.
glodson
22 March 2013 at 9:19 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Cute kid stuff: My daughter told us she had a new word. She pointed to her thumbs and said “These are finger-babies.”
And then she grabbed an unopened box of toothpaste to take to her school, so she could show her friends. They do a show and tell on Wednesday, which she’s insisted on showing the same toy… for a month.
blf
22 March 2013 at 9:50 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Ah, yes, April is Green Sex Toy Month.
blf
22 March 2013 at 10:12 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
The Grauniad seems to be warming up for April Fools… Is the weather worse under the Coalition government? (or they are just bored silly today). There are some graphs to illustrate the results in the article:
Currently the UK is in an Siberian deep-freeze with more snow on the way. The mildly deranged penguin is delighted and is heading there to hold an outdoor baby barbecue to celebrate the fine weather. The sentient but stoopid cider may also be en route, especially if England succeed in loosing / drawing the last test match in New Zealand, to celebrate the return of the English Men’s
CricketComedy Team.Esteleth, stupid fucking starchild Tolkien worshiping douche
22 March 2013 at 10:24 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Made a solution too dilute. Now I have to mess with filter tubes to make it more concentrated. FML.
(Oh, and no, throwing out the too-dilute solution is not an option. The stuff is $5,573 a milligram.)
Millicent
22 March 2013 at 10:38 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Good day!
cicely , I hope all is well with your husband (and you). I just read an article (am running a brain scan to see if I can remember where the hell I read it and thus link) about how the pricing at hospitals is mostly just made up, and the initial bill that they give you isn’t written in stone, it’s their first offer. Gah, hospitals.
Sally Strange, that sounds super stressful. I hope you can find something different (and better!)
glodson, how old is your daughter, if I may ask? I have two sons, myself, aged 13 and almost 10. Having a 13-year-old is such a joy. The moodiness, the surliness, the sudden moustache fuzz on his upper lip (my baby! Getting a moustache! Hee hee). Such fun.
I’ve been reading along with the convo about how we touch kids, how we teach them to disrespect bodily autonomy, and I too am in the place of having been a bit too touchy and pushy with my older kid, and better about respecting and reinforcing boundaries with the second kid. I think in our case, it was my older son himself who made it clear to me that if he didn’t want to touch or be touched, he wasn’t going to do it. And that, along with all the social justice reading that I’d gotten into when he was a baby, made me a whole lot better about letting my younger child control his own body and the physical interactions he has. It’s important to me to raise them so that they know that they don’t just have the right not to be touched if they don’t want to, but so does everyone else.
Lynna, OM
22 March 2013 at 10:44 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Who wants to learn how to harness honey bees? This video gives you all the instruction you need, with techno music background, a female German scientist with impressive eyebrows, and a nice conclusion when they improve bee olfactory memory.
Behavioural Pharmacology in Classical Conditioning of the Proboscis Extension Response in Honeybees (Apis mellifera)
Improbable Joe, bearer of the Official SpokesGuitar
22 March 2013 at 10:54 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
cicely yay for wheelchair! Boo for The Husband’s gallbladder! Yay for non-enlarged heart! Boo for medical bills! Sorry that you’re depressed, but there’s a couple of things in the “yay” column so that’s a start, right?
SallyStrange, sorry about your job situation, and good luck finding something better.
FossilFishy Yep. Tasty riffs and slithery licks. *grins* And the house is really coming along!
PSG, as an aside to the MP3 thing and musical/computer terms, taking analog music and shrinking/compressing it into MP3 format is actually two kinds of compression. In the musical recording biz, “compression” is what happens when you remove dynamics from music, making the louder sounds more quiet and the more quiet sounds louder… and MP3 conversion compresses that way as well as compressing for size. Guitarists use compressor pedals to even out and balance their tone, which is useful when you want every picked note to sound the same volume which is hard when you’re playing a lot of notes across all the strings with a lot of different techniques.
Tony, it sounds like you had a pretty decent night even with the ebb and flow issues. Good!
And good morning/afternoon/evening to everyone! I drove my wife to work at 4:45AM so that I would have the car to run errands, and then I sleep until 9:30AM. So much for at least half of the errands, since I have to get the car unloaded and leave to pick her up at 1:30PM. That gives me 2-3 hours, so I should at least be able to go get the shopping done.
****VEGAN/VEGETARIAN TRIGGER WARNING****
I’m driving across town to the fancy meat market. I’m going to spend like $100-150 on meat. I’m going to see if they have capons, because I’ve always wanted to try a capon. I probably don’t have the money for a duck though… we’ll see. They also have the best selection of sauces and seasonings, as near as I can tell. That helps when you get close to payday and run out of ideas. Wish me luck!
glodson
22 March 2013 at 11:00 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Millicent , she just turned 3.
I am learning about the same issues, but I am worried that I’m fucking bad as a parent. Bad.
Eric
22 March 2013 at 11:04 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Helping an abused person. Details scarce on purpose, but:
Woman, Austin, TX-area. Four kids; need divorce lawyer for either payments, pro-bono or otherwise.
Serious contacts only: 512-670-0712 or harwelle at hotmail.com
Can’t say I’ll be checking this thread for replies, but I will be checking ehat I posted above. Thanx.
dianne
22 March 2013 at 11:08 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Carlie @329: Thank you so much for the information and the offer! The contrast between your offer and the advice for “poor” bankers to not tip so much brought tears to my eyes. Why aren’t you in charge of things instead of a bunch of greedy jerks whose idea of “economizing” is to make their 13 year old children work and screw the lowest paid employees out of what little they do get? Anyway, I’ll let you know when/if we get anywhere on this. (I’m concerned that one person is so beaten down by life that s/he will have a hard time even applying…Fortunately, we’ve got a social worker who is much better than we deserve who is very good about helping people out of that sort of hole. She got a raise last year, despite the budget being flat because she deserved a fucking raise and it was going to happen no matter what.)
opposablethumbs
22 March 2013 at 11:14 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Holy fucking shit. I thought I’d got some idea of how vile this system is, but this never even occurred to me.
So they make you pay through the nose for private insurance, half the time they refuse to cover what you need, half the rest of the time there’s still a copay many people can’t afford …. and on top of all that they expect you to fucking haggle ? After your emergency treatment? (Like you’re going to shop around right in the middle of a medical emergency. Right)
This system could hardly be more counterproductive – and cruel – if it had been deliberately designed that way.
cicely, all my hugs and best wishes. I so very much hope you’re ok and that it works out.
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Always tried to respect the Spawn’s physical boundaries when they were little, except for issues of health (like taking medicine) and safety (like crossing the road). This was hugely extra difficult in the case of non-neurotypical SonSpawn when he was much younger. But these days they are teenagers and both (most of the time) love hugs. Hugs give you dolphins.
Pteryxx
22 March 2013 at 11:22 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Eric: National Domestic Violence Hotline, 1-800-799-7233
Along with everything else, the shelter networks provide limited pro bono legal assistance and can help clients make contact with Legal Aid.
http://www.thehotline.org/2013/03/what-can-the-hotline-help-you-with/
blf
22 March 2013 at 11:40 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I should probably try a professionally-prepared capon, but the very few times I’ve had organic ones at home, I didn’t see what the Big Deal is… Yes, it did seem a bit more moist, but beyond that I’d be hard-pressed to tell the difference from a not-caponed(? is that a word?) rooster. And in a blind test, I’m not at all convinced I could tell the difference.
Organic goose, on the other hand… Yum! (And duck is great, just remember to wear yer duck-proof suit.)
Eric
22 March 2013 at 11:49 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
@Pteryxx
Appreciated, but not useful. Sorry, cannot get into why that isn’t useful. It is appreciated nonetheless.
Azkyroth Drinked the Grammar Too :)
22 March 2013 at 12:07 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I can’t wait for spring break so MAYBE I can go two days without hearing some dumbfuck talking about “being ‘alpha’”. >.>
Rev. BigDumbChimp
22 March 2013 at 12:15 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Morgan Freeman on Homophobia
The Mellow Monkey
22 March 2013 at 12:39 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Well, this is an interesting choice of picture to share, considering the source.
For those link or Facebook averse: The Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science official Facebook page has posted a political cartoon of two women in burqas talking as they walk down the street together.
Woman 1: “We’re not alone…women are still oppressed in Pakistan, Syria, Saudi Arabia…”
Woman 2: “Yeah…but this is Arkansas!”
And in the background a newspaper has the headline “ARK. PASSES ABORTION LAW.”
The comments are about what I expect for Facebook:
I know it’s rarely Dawkins himself posting these, but after all his weird abortion crap on Twitter I just don’t even know where to begin.
Lynna, OM
22 March 2013 at 1:09 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
When they are not giving themselves two weeks per month vacation, Congress Critters have been doing work that makes them look busy, when in fact they are just playing.
Very productive, eh? Link.
Lynna, OM
22 March 2013 at 1:21 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
What are mormons doing to mark the occasion of California’s Prop 8 coming before the Supreme Court?
They have enlisted some B-roll Osmonds to help them “Celebrate Marriage.”
http://ldsmag.com/blogs/editors-blogs/invitation-come-to-a-celebration-of-marriage
Lynna, OM
22 March 2013 at 1:23 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
More on the mormon effort to sway the Supreme Court as it considers Prop 8:
http://wellbehavedmormonwoman.blogspot.com/2013/03/utah-celebration-of-marriage-stand-up.html
Lynna, OM
22 March 2013 at 1:29 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Mormons explain Noah and the Flood:
rq
22 March 2013 at 1:55 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
My computer has a new hard drive and the ventilation unit hasn’t even switched on yet and it’s been turned on over an hour and I think I like the sweet sound of silence (except I hear the kids a lot better now, but oh well, I’m sure it will be for the best for all parties involved!).
So, in more-or-less order:
David @315
Why would it be interesting for Latvians to have sea-shanties?
We have lots of coastline, and a history of marauding sea-farers comparable to vikings (see: Courland, ca. 8th century) and transatlantic colonisation (see Duchy of Courland, 17th century). While some of that occurred under the benevolent guidance of territorial occupants not descended from one of the many Latvian tribes, I doubt their influence extended as far as to write the populace’s songs for them.
FossilFishy @317
I will look up some music, I’m pretty sure I can find the sheet music online. I’ve found the lyrics, and it’s actually Mr Eel marrying Miss Flounder, with following verses about a fisherman going off to sea and refusing mermaids because his love is on shore… I’ll pass it on, I don’t know if it will do, but it’s an… interesting song. It’s from a 1960s (I think?) Latvian film, so it’s not a real folk song, but it’s definitely a drinking kind of song.
Oh, and squid in Latvian is tinteszivs (fem., Group VI), literally inkfish. And it can be rhymed with a lot of other fish names, like haizivs, valzivs (now just plain valis due to science proving it’s a mammal), etc.
Pteryxx @330
How to play something in music quite often involves the quality of sound that has to be transmitted – so, there’s a technique to play something abrasively, and hopefully, abrasive is the sound quality you hear. But there isn’t always an overlap, such as for maestoso… Definitely a mood thing, not a sound-quality thing!
I believe, though, that it was Claude Debussy who had some of the strangest annotations in his musical scores… with clairvoyance, indeed… as if wandering… Made interpretation interesting, to say the least!
SallyStrange
I wish you all the best in resolving your work situation. I’m glad your co-workers are awesome, but it’s shitty that your boss is such a shit. :( If you look for a new job, I hope you find a better (and better-paying, for what it’s worth!) position fast, in a similar field, since it sounds like you’re good at it (and also enjoy it).
cicely
Well, so I missed you yesterday by a comment or two, but I nevertheless extend all possible and wanted *hugs* and *pea-freedelight* at seeing you comment, as I was starting to Worry just a Little Bit.
I’m glad things are more or less sorted, but I wish for the speedy recovery of Husband, and *threecheers* for the new wheelchair!
mildlymagnificent
I hope the plumber came. If not, I hope staring at the new cupboards was suitably satisfactory. ;)
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Something is strange about the keyboard and I can’t quite put my finger on it. I’m sure I’ll figure it out eventually. It’s just nice knowing I have a new, safe and working computer!
Lynna, OM
22 March 2013 at 1:55 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Uh-Oh. This does not sound good. Arizona legislators snuck a bill past watchdog groups. The bill makes it easier for Arizonans to disobey laws they don’t like on the basis of religious beliefs.
Link.
This bill will make it easier for FLDS colonies to abuse women and children.
Dalillama, Schmott Guy
22 March 2013 at 1:59 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Sorry to be such an ongoing downer, I just need to vent again. There’s been no business on L’s shop at all this month, unemployment is jerking me around, and money is basically nonexistent at this point. I keep looking for work, but I can’t even get a callback, and I wouldn’t get a paycheck in time to do anything with it at this point anyway. I’ve been trying to put together a business plan to maybe get a loan of an indiegogo thing going, get some capital for advertising and raw materials, but it’s hard to muster the energy. L and D are having a bit of a spat, fueled by both of their preexisting issues; D has shut herself up in her room again, because she’s feeling ugly and ashamed about having a meltdown last night, L is feeling rejected and hurt (and also has the flu, which isn’t helping), and everyone’s stress levels are through the roof because of the financial situation and the fact that none of us get out at all (atrophying social lives, depression and anxiety disorders, and no money to go anywhere anyway) so we’re all kind of cooped up together. My folks are helping out, but there’s a limit to how much they can send. I’m just feeling completely helpless and useless and generally at the end of my rope.
rq
22 March 2013 at 2:01 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
OH and Tony, your story of having a night with company made me smile huge, too. :) I’m glad you had a nice evening!
rq
22 March 2013 at 2:02 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
And the anti-science news from Canada. Go, Harper… *siiiiigh*
And people keep asking me when I’m going back (although I can’t swear Current Location is much better, to be honest).
Beatrice (looking for a happy thought)
22 March 2013 at 2:03 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Dalillama,
*hugs*
Dalillama, Schmott Guy
22 March 2013 at 2:29 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Tony
Congratulations, btw.
rq
It’s not suprising that there were Latvian sea shanties, but it’s surprising that there still are, as most shanty traditions died with the tall ships.
rq
22 March 2013 at 2:38 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Dalillama
*lotsofhugs*
rq
22 March 2013 at 2:41 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Dalillama
Hmm… Does singing a song out of context change the way it’s categorized?
I know a lot of songs are old, but they’re still sung, and quite often outside of their original context (huge oral-singing tradition). So, singing a sea-shanty at a kitchen party – still a sea shanty?
opposablethumbs
22 March 2013 at 3:07 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
That would make it a strange keyboard pretty much by definition, I should think. How are you managing to type? (thumbs? Nose? pencils? :-) )
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Fuck, Dalillama, I wish I could help. I’ve had work the last couple-three weeks, but a big gap before that :-(
I really hope things get better for you. All I’ve got is a bunch of hugs, I wish I had more.
rq
22 March 2013 at 3:15 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
opposablethumbs
Toes, in fact. (Better than licking the touchpad.) ;)
Actually, the Enter key seems to have a second hidden button somewhere and I keep putting the heel of my thumb on it. Something is feeling extra-sensitive after a visit to the shop.
Dalillama, Schmott Guy
22 March 2013 at 3:28 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
rq
If kitchen singalongs, music halls, etc. don’t count, then noone has a surviving shanty tradition. For various reasons, of the major Atlantic seafaring powers, only the English shanties survived that way. Basically, at the beginning of the 20th century (the last days of the windjammers), Britain and the U.S. were having a revival of interest in folklore, and the songcatchers went out with their notebooks and phonographs to pin the old songs down before they slipped away. The rest of Western Europe wasn’t having such a revival at the time, so no one bothered to write the songs down, and they died when the sailors no longer hauled ropes and turned capstans with sheer muscle power.
rq
22 March 2013 at 3:58 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Dalillama
That’s very sad, in a way, losing those traditions… Lots of great songs lost, no doubt. And I was mostly musing, previous comment.
Well, Latvian has never been a particularly popular language, and there’s only a couple of songs I’d feel comfortable calling shanties (as others are more traditional folk songs, which may have had a purpose in labour, but are more descriptive and less of the call-response type – and there’s a lot of call-response type songs (but more of a sing-a-line/repeat-the-line type of song) in other labour areas, such as sowing and reaping and milking and herding and stuff…). Anyway, the point being that I don’t know if anyone has actually gone out and studied Latvian sea songs-as-shanties in a language other than Latvian. It’s a rather narrow field.
(The Latvian folk song tradition has been well and amply studied, and continues to be so, including modern folklore revival music groups and the like… I’ll get on youtube in a bit and flood the Lounge with contemporary singing of Latvian traditional songs. Prepare to be impressed! Or not. ;) )
Dalillama, Schmott Guy
22 March 2013 at 5:20 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
rq
Yeah, there are about a half-dozen Dutch shanties that are still known too, but there are literally hundreds of English-language shanties still in circulation.
Does anyone have any advice on improving sales on an internet shop? L is getting plenty of traffic, but no one’s buying.