The Egyptian government acknowledged that its security forces had killed 36 Islamists in its custody on Sunday, as the country’s military leaders and Islamists vowed to keep up their fight over Egypt’s future.
More than 1,000 Islamists and their supporters are gunned down by security forces. This is ridiculous. Egypt must stop killing people.
Morsi supporters are brainwashed Islamists. They are bad people, but still they have the right to live as everyone has the right to live. Muslim Brotherhood is a religion-based political party. A secular country can ban religion-based politics, religion-based laws and religion-based education system as it separates religion from the state, but can not kill Islamists only because they are Islamists. It is not their crime that they become Islamists. They have chosen the wrong path, but they have the right to be wrong. They were not born as Islamists. Your bad, corrupt, superstitious and unscientific, unenlightened society and system made them Islamists. You have to deal with it, and you have to deal with it without bloodshed.
Erwin MdR says
“It is not their crime that they become Islamists. They have chosen the wrong path, but they have the right to be wrong. They were not born as Islamists. Your bad, corrupt, superstitious and unscientific, unenlightened society and system made them Islamists.”
Don’t know enough about Egypt society. But the brotherhood probably is bad, corrupt, superstitious, unscientific and unenlightened. And they know violence works.
http://www.worldaffairsjournal.org/blog/michael-j-totten/truth-about-egypt
https://chronicle.com/article/Why-Violence-Works/140951/
I know, the conclusion is frightening. But I think it’s unlikely that there can ever be a peaceful solution for restraining the abuse of power by the brotherhood ant the like.
UJJAL says
The FIRST step for peace is to ban ALL and EVERY weapon factory and research institutions. ( It is not the FINAL or ONLY step for peace ) NO WEAPONS will heavily reduce the mass killing either side. At least more dialog will evolve. Today weapons flash out before dialog, killing not only human but the future possibility of a dialog between the groups. races, religions from the left alive.
The left alive are so hate filled because of genocide that they do not even agree to exchange dialog and think nothing more is left to discuss but settle through weapons only.
UJJAL says
Absolutely Correct. Only Atheists and Humanists have the heart and courage to say this. Only Atheists can say religious people have the right to live. I wish the religious leaders will ever learn this !!
And I do not mind my identity to be declared with you didi.
colnago80 says
In other news, 25 Egyptian policemen were assassinated by militants near the town of Rafah which lies near the border of the Gaza Strip and Israel.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/egypts-turmoil-deepens-compounded-by-militant-ambush-killing-of-25-policemen-in-sinai/2013/08/19/93a168aa-08a7-11e3-89fe-abb4a5067014_story.html
dysomniak, darwinian socialist says
I was going to post a follow up comment on your last post asking for clarification (not sure what I expected when I answered a glib link with another glib link), but I think this post answers many of my questions.
I imagine you’re aware that you sometimes come across rather… bloodthirsty?
UJJAL says
Finally it stands that two sets of religious gangs killing each other. Religion only taught them to be zero tolerent, religion taught them to be violent, religion converted them to murderers.
giasuddin says
‘Egypt must stop killing people’ – I do support your voice. But my question is how is it possible ? You have told that military leaders and Islamists vowed to keep up their fight over Egypt’s future. Is it so ? I think that military leaders agree to hand over the power to the people and have already taken necessary steps to act accordingly. But the opposition, the Muslim Brotherhood , did not agree with the govt . They refused the decision of holding the parliament election. They started malicious and violent movement to reinstate Mursi in power. So, the govt has compelled to take hard steps to control over the situation and maintain law and order.
Egypt govt killed the Murshi supporters not because that they are Islamists. The real fact is that govt has compelled to give order of firing which causes many death to resist their unlawful and malicious movement.
To restore peace and normal situation the govt has , of course, main responsibility, but the Muslim Brotherhood has also some responsibility. The govt can never alone stop killing and bloodshed, if the oppositions do not help. But the problem is that the Muslim fundamentalists do not believe in democracy and democratic movement. They always want to establish their demand forcefully. This is the way through which Muhammad, the prophet, and his successors(caliphs) had conquered almost half of the world. Muslim Brotherhood have been following that path. This is the main problem to bring back peace and normal situation of the govt of the Egypt. It will be very difficult to stop killing and bloodshed there for the govt, if Muslim Brotherhood do not give up their unlawful and fierce movement.