Blog comments policy


At the beginning of every month, I will repost my comments policy for those who started visiting this site the previous month.

As long time readers know, I used to moderate the comments with a very light hand, assuming that mature adults would know how to behave in a public space. It took outright hate speech targeting marginalized groups to cause me to ban people, and that happened very rarely. But I got increasingly irritated by the tedious and hostile exchanges among a few commenters that tended to fill up the comment thread with repeated posts about petty or off-topic issues. We sometimes had absurdly repetitive exchanges seemingly based on the childish belief that having the last word means that you have won the argument or with increasingly angry posts sprinkled with puerile justifications like “They started it!”

So here is one rule: No one will be able to make more than three comments in response to any blog post. Violation of that rule will result in banning.

But I also want to address a couple of deeper concerns for which a solution cannot be quantified but will require me to exercise my judgment.

The main other issue is the hostility that is sometimes expressed, often triggered by the most trivial of things. An email sent to me privately by a long-time lurker brought home to me how people might be hesitant to join in the conversation here, even if they have something to say, out of fear that something that they write, however well-intentioned, will be seized upon and responded to in a hostile manner by some of the most egregious offenders.

It is well known that the comments sections on the internet can be a cesspool. I had hoped that the people who come to this site would be different, leading to more mature exchanges. But I was clearly too sanguine. People should remember that this is a blog, not a journal or magazine. There are no copy editors, proof readers, and fact checkers. In such a casual atmosphere, people (and that includes me) will often inadvertently be less than precise or accurate in what they say and people should respond appropriately. If the error is trivial but the meaning is clear, the error should be ignored. If the meaning is not clear, clarification can be politely asked for. If it is a genuine error, a correction can be politely made. This courteous behavior should be obvious but clearly it isn’t for some people. So here is another rule: If I think people are being consistently rude or condescending or insulting (and I do not mean just abusive language but also the tone), I will ban the person.

For me, and I suspect for the other bloggers on this network, the rewards of blogging lie in creating space for a community of people to exchange ideas and views on a variety of topics. But that is pleasurable only if people post comments that are polite and respectful towards others, even while disagreeing. Some time ago, I wrote a post that a good philosophy of life is “Don’t be a jerk”. That would be a good rule to keep in mind when posting comments as well. There is absolutely no call for anyone to be rude or sneering or condescending towards others. Almost all the commenters on this blog contribute positively and it is a pleasure to read their contributions and interact with them. It is a very few who think that a sneering, condescending, or abrasively argumentative tone is appropriate. My patience has been worn thin by some of their comments in the past. So here is the third rule: If I think, for any reason whatsoever, that someone is behaving like a jerk, I will ban them. I am in no mood to argue about this. I will not make any public announcement about who is banned. They will simply find that they can no longer post comments.

So I would suggest that in future commenters think carefully before they post anything, taking into account what they say and how often they say something. They should try to put themselves in the shoes of the person they are arguing with and think about how they might feel if their comment had been directed at them. They should also think about how their comments might look to others. It surprises me that people do not realize how badly this kind of behavior reflects on themselves.

Readers may have noticed that there are no ads on any of the blogs on this network. Nobody is making any money at all. In fact, it is a money sink and PZ Myers pays for the costs of the servers out of his Patreon account that you can contribute to if you would like to support the network. The bloggers here blog because they want to create spaces for conversations on issues that they care about. ‘Clicks’ have no monetary value. That means that I do not care how many people come to the site.

I realize that these guidelines are somewhat vague. So a good rule of thumb would be: If in doubt as to whether to post something because it might violate these boundaries, that is a good sign to not post it. I will be the sole judge of whether the boundary has been crossed.

I want to make it perfectly clear that I have zero tolerance for people who try to find ways to subvert the guidelines such as, for example, skirting the three comment limit by continuing it on another thread. I also reserve the right to make exceptions to the rules at any time, if I feel it is warranted. These decisions will be solely mine and will be final. There will be no discussion, debate, or appeal. If anyone objects because they think that I am being arbitrary, they are of course free to leave and never return.

Comments

  1. Silentbob says

    No solution concerned with managing human relations is perfect -- especially one so experimental (As Mano says he made a radical change in moderation policy).

    But I think it’s undeniable things are at least closer to Mano’s ideal of

    space for a community of people to exchange ideas and views on a variety of topics [where] people post comments that are polite and respectful towards others, even while disagreeing

    than previously.

    So the policy is no panacea, but I think it has to be judged successful; at the very least a step in the right direction.

  2. birgerjohansson says

    This is like a calm oasis in the online sewage dump. If I have much disposable income after tax -beyond the Swedish charities- I will remember the Patreon.
    BTW I remember the fate of Ed Brayton. If you get a life-threathening condition, please mention it. I underestimated the awful callous nature of US health insurance until he died!

  3. Holms says

    Sonof, it has been clear since Pierce’s quintuple post that Mano is ignoring posts that are simple corrections or minor edits to earlier posts. Granted, you can’t really see which of sBob’s posts are this and which are not as you have blanked his content, but that was in fact the case in his most recent quad post.

  4. sonofrojblake says

    @Holms, 5: fair enough.

    For info, the blocking I employ (and heartily recommend) goes a bit further than that. I can see that there is a post 2 on this thread… and that’s all. The blanking extension I use doesn’t just remove the content, it removes any indication of who posted it too. Because of that, I can’t actually tell whether four blank lines is from the same person or from two, or three, or four different people. It was only chigau’s post @8 in that thread saying “That’s four” that gave me the heads up that the four were all from the same individual, and there was no clue there who it was.

    And when I asked, parenthetically and on my own account, whether the three post rule was still being enforced, I got a tetchy reply implying I thought our host had missed something (I didn’t), or thought he needed prompting (I didn’t), or that I had forgotten (I hadn’t) that the rules, when they are enforced, are enforced arbitrarily and with exceptions, a fact I have repeatedly expressed agreement with in these terms -- your gaffe, your rules.

    May the blank lines proliferate! 🙂

  5. Holms says

    All the blanks are sBob and have been for a few months, your other blank target was banned.

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