Some random election thoughts

Back on election watch, nearly 101 million early votes have already been cast, which is over 73% of the total of 137 million votes cast in 2016. Since in 2016 about 47 million votes were cast early and 90 million on election day, if the total number of votes remain the same, only about 36 million people will vote today.

But people expect a much larger total, up to maybe 160 million. But even then, that would make just 60 million election day voters, which is one-third the number in 2016 which one hopes would make for shorter lines and less delays. There have been reports of long lines before the polls opened as people wanted to get it done early. Whether those lines continue throughout the day and we will have repeats of previous years when polls have to be ordered to be kept open late because of glitches and lines remains to be seen.

Interestingly, you would never guess from the little corner of the country where I live that there was an election going on at all. There are no Trump-Pence or Biden-Harris signs, no MAGA caps, not even trucks flying American flags. Of course, my world is extremely tiny since I rarely go out and California is such a reliably Democratic state that people may not think it worthwhile to do these things.

Whether Trump wins or not, the last portion of this segment by Seth Meyers where in rapid fire speech he reminds us of some of the many the things that Trump has done that make him unworthy of being president is worth watching. That bit begins at the 14:50 mark and lasts for just over a minute.


  1. DrVanNostrand says

    I’m working the polls right now and it is DEAD (which is why I’m surfing the net). Early voting was much busier. And the clerk says he’s never seen so many mail ballots in his entire life.

  2. StonedRanger says

    Im in Portland Oregon. Its as liberal as they come and there are people flying trump flags on cars, much less on trucks. It makes me wonder if they are being paid to do it.

  3. Who Cares says

    He already tried that by demanding that states do not count votes after the third of November.
    That said the supreme court would not go with the demand for the simple reason that you are not electing a president at the federal level, you are voting for one or more state electors that will cast the vote for who is to be president. And there is a bit too much precedent to go against that even with the newly placed moron who knew less about your fricking constitution then me, a foreigner. The worst case there would be 8-1 against Trump.
    It is why his lackwit lackeys have been filing a pile of cases with the state and federal courts against what the states are doing. And you get absolutely mindboggling arguments (though they are technically correct so fair game for lawyers) like the tents used for, most, drive through voting are not buildings and the state (Texas) requires people to vote in buildings thus drive through voting is illegal and should be prohibited on Nov 3rd.

  4. DrVanNostrand says

    There is literally a 0% chance they can halt vote counting on Nov 3. The vote count is literally never complete on Nov 3. It’s just never close enough to matter (exception: FL 2000). What they can and will try to do is exclude votes that are postmarked by election day, but arrive after in the states that allow it. And that might actually succeed. And if it’s close, I wouldn’t be surprised if they try to force recounts and challenge signatures and all kinds of shady things like that.

  5. John Morales says

    Shame the public doesn’t actually get to vote for the Presidency.

    That’s the Electors’ job.

    (Only country where there are specific provisions to prevent the winner of the popular vote from being elected. Exceptional!)

  6. Sam N says

    Oh John Morales, we’re exceptional in so many other ways. Just look at the massive waste of our ‘defense’ budget.

  7. Sam N says

    Well this sucks. I think Joe Biden is still slightly favored to win. But even if he does, by a disappointingly small margin.

  8. sonofrojblake says

    “Only country where there are specific provisions to prevent the winner of the popular vote from being elected. Exceptional!”

    Wrong. The UK first past the post system allows popular vote winners to lose. Labour got more votes in 1951 and lost the election.

    Don’t you have Google where you are?

  9. John Morales says

    sonofrojblake, nope, not wrong.

    I’m talking about votes for people, not votes for parties. Every individual who got the most votes (in each seat) got elected.

  10. anat says

    John Morales, what about countries where people don’t vote for people at all in the first place? (Pretty common in parliamentary systems)?

  11. birgerjohansson says

    The Democratic party machine had an open goal against the most incompetent Republican campaign ever, and they are very close to losing. If Biden wins, they will congratulate themselves and keep the incompetents, gurarnteeing losses down the road.
    The Democrats failed to win the Senate when the Republicans proudly sacrifice the elderly and vulnerable to the pandemic.
    They keep a majority in the house of representatives but lost many seats.
    While throwing out Trump is the priority, this shows the Democratic establishment cannot fight their way out of a paper bag.
    Their first priority is to block progressive challengers while they talk about inviting Republicans to the administration. This is a systemic failure and it does not bode well for the future.

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