1. Mano Singham says

    Rob @#2,

    But aren’t Seen Bean’s characters, in any film or TV show, always killed off in brutal fashion? It almost seems like this is written into his contracts.

  2. Ogvorbis wants to know: WTF!?!?!?! says


    I watched the LoTR movies and enjoyed them.

    I watched The Hobbit movies and was so disappointed. They could have stuck close to the book and made it a really good trilogy. Instead, they decided to amp it up and leave out much of the good stuff.

  3. Mano Singham says

    hyphenman @#11,

    I watched all the LOTR films largely because I wanted to know why it was that so many people were such fans of the books, but I didn’t want to actually read the books. Once I knew what it was about, I skipped the Hobbit films.

  4. John Morales says

    I used to like George R. R. Martin’s books — Tuf Voyaging was a favourite — but when I got the first brick of A Song of Ice and Fire I couldn’t get past the first third, finding it tediously turgid.

    Apparently, the TV show is full of gratuitous violence and nudity, so I might check it out when I can get it for free. It sounds much more entertaining.

  5. Mano Singham says

    John @#18,

    The gratuitous nudity is fine but the gratuitous violence (and there is supposedly a lot of gory stuff) is what prevents me from wanting to see it.

  6. Holms says

    Or they could have stuck even closer to the book and made it a single 3hr movie. The book itself is after all only 278 pages in medium size print, compared to LotR’s 1069 in small print plus extensive appendices. They both have totally different moods -- LotR is a weighty, grave venture with multiple threads to thwart a world-ending foe, while The Hobbit is a comparatively jaunty and fairly linear adventure. Subtract the bloat, and one good movie is what you have left.

    I am about to give this a go: The Hobbit: Tolkein Edit. It can only be an improvement over the turgid trilogy.

  7. says

    Not only have I never seen Game of Thrones, I’ve never set foot in a Walmart, either. My students find the latter claim particularly unbelievable.

    A serious question: does “Thrones” refer to the king’s chair, a group of people, a surname, or ?

  8. blf says

    Not only have I never seen Game of Thrones, I’ve never set foot in a Walmart, either.

    Same here. And, for the multiple decades I’ve lived in Europe, have also never set foot inside a scarf-and-barf (McDonald’s).

  9. mnb0 says

    Never seen any full episode of Game of Thrones either. The snippets I saw didn’t exactly encourage me. See, I have read all five (seven) books and think them vastly overrated. Don’t bother MS, they contain lots of gratuitous violence as well.
    I’ve seen Fellowship of the Ring and the second half of Two Towers. I didn’t like him, while I think the books great. From seeing the movies you won’t get why people admire them. However I think the first chapter (A long expected party) will suffice. They say that first sentences matter:

    “When Mr. Bilbo Baggins of Bag End announced that he would shortly be celebrating his eleventy-first birthday with a party of special magnificence, there was much talk and excitement in Hobbiton. Bilbo was very rich and very peculiar, ….”

  10. mnb0 says

    “never set foot inside a scarf-and-barf (McDonald’s)”
    I am jealous. I did twice (on two different continents!) and regret both times.
    Mind you, I do enjoy junk food say once a month. But not that one.

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