Episode 138: Interview with Shelley Segal

segal_at_wprrThis podcast features a previously unreleased interview with Australian singer and songwriter Shelley Segal. Shelly shares about her experience growing up in a conservative Jewish household and how her music naturally turned to turned to secular themes when she decided she was an atheist. She also performs two songs from “An Atheist Album.”

Check out more of her music at shelleysegal.com

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  1. mond says

    Hi Guys,
    Really love the podcast.
    Sorry to hear that real life is getting in the way of producing more content at the moment.
    This happened to the Non Prophets podcast a few years back. They slowly ground to a halt over a year or two. Had a few hiatus’s and came back stronger than ever.

  2. Bleak_Infinitive says

    I’ve been listening to RD for about five years now. Thanks for a consistently interesting, entertaining, and fascinating podcast. I really hope this isn’t the end, but I can’t complain when we have such a great archive.

  3. parasiteboy says

    This is honestly hands down one of the best podcast that I have ever listened to. Growing up Catholic you don’t learn a lot about the bible. Catechism and the Catholic Missalettes in church act as a kind of barrier to what is in the rest of the bible. I had been an atheist for a while before I started listening to the podcast. But I was really surprised to learn about what my religion was based on from listening to RD, since I was not encouraged to read the bible and thought I was getting the whole story from the church.

    I am almost caught up on all the old episodes and look forward to listening to them all again from the beginning.

    I appreciate the quality over quantity and if that means even only a few episodes per year that will still be great!!!

  4. Muz says

    Pity you guys can’t find the time at the moment. This is my most admired show in the atheist-o-sphere. No offense to the others out there, but the focus of other’s shows is often outreach and giving atheists a ‘home’, serving that audience. They’ve frequently pared down the debates to the nub of the god problem and push the burden of proof back on theists. Rightly so too. But RD is remarkable for challenging on all fronts; philosophical, theological, scientific/psychological. At a really high levels too. One can’t be other than impressed.

    On Shelly Segal; the conversation about the state of religiosity in Australia is always interesting. While people are right to say we should always be vigilant, there’s aspects to Australian culture which don’t really come across, I don’t think, and from the outside Americans see a mirror of themselves without that nuance.
    It’s hard to describe just how gauche excess religiosity is to most of Australia, especially in mainstream politics. Their religion is something politicians tiptoe around because they know overdoing it in that department will cost them, even among people who ostensibly support them. Keeping religion out of politics is a pretty big cultural factor. It’s not something the US ever had a problem with and why the new religious right had no trouble sweeping in over the 80s and 90s.

    This isn’t to say we have nothing to worry about. But there’s religious stuff that happens here that I think is less worrying than it might look from overseas. Of course times change and we have to keep an eye on things. But it is a factor in the trans-Pacific conversation that gets lost I think.

  5. says

    Don’t you dare take too long off; don’t you dare leave for good. You guys are the best out there.

    Don’t make me turn into a militant atheist!

    ( ;) of course )

  6. Cliff Glickman says

    I’ve just discovered your podcast, and I’m sorry to hear that you’re finding the going challenging. I do PR work for a living, and I wonder if there’s anything I might be able to do anything on a volunteer basis to help you. For example, would it be helpful to raise your profile, perhaps by getting your names in front of reporters/bloggers/podcasters who do stories in which you might be quoted as experts? Just one idea, and perhaps you’re already doing plenty of that already. But if something like that might be helpful, just reach out via e-mail or my twitter feed, @CliffGl

  7. Alif. says

    If she sings in a fake american accent and not in her own native “strine” accent, I’d be very disappointed at her fakery.

  8. Sean Costello says

    These days you can find me wandering around the local park clucking. I hopefully ask passersby “”Riiizonulbul Dowtz?” They all shun me and I feel ashamed. The withdrawal from your podcast is hitting me hard.

  9. thebookofdave says

    @ Sean

    Wish I could help you, buddy, but I’m down to my last doubtcast. Don’t worry, though. I have a plan to pack the tip jar with enough cash to turn this show into full-time work for David, Jeremy, and Justin (sorry Dr-Professor, but at least you still have a steady paycheck). I have a feeling things will quickly start to happen as soon as I complete Step 1: getting a million dollars.

  10. getbusyliving says

    Just started listening to your show and really love it. You guys inspire me to “join the fray” a bit more. I decided to write my own 10 commandments, which I think are an improvement on the original in two ways: 1. They are revisable; 2. I know the source.

    Maybe others who are seeking to escape authoritarian epistemologies and wanting to empower themselves can do something similar. :)

    1. Be honest with myself. Expose my own self-deceptions.
    2. Be thankful for all that I have. Contentment is a cornerstone of happiness and is collectively sustainable.
    3. Engage others in evidence-based debate, when profitable. Seek opposing views, but don’t waste time with those who only want to win and won’t consider evidence. Debating is not about winning/losing, but about sharpening each other.
    4. Don’t obsess over my own image. Making mistakes and feeling stupid is part of learning. Success in attaining symbols valued by consensus undermines my own core values. Social media is shallow artificial reality.
    5. Expose the elites. Seek the source of liars who seek to control us. Knowledge is power. Discover the losers of history and speak/write for them.
    6. Find common ground based on humanitarian principles with people from different belief systems. There is strength in numbers.
    7. Don’t worry about not doing or knowing everything in life. I am a finite being briefly traveling through an overwhelming world of opportunity.
    8. Don’t assume that my life is more important than it is. Look at the longer view of history. Be sober about what you can achieve, but not impotent.
    9. I am responsible for my actions, but not everything is my fault. Embrace determinism but not pre-determinism. Help others understand this problem.
    10. Show respect to humans and all creatures as much as possible. Try to minimize suffering by supporting sustainable systems of life.


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