I got a nice little card!


Aww, pretty.

I wonder what it says inside?

Dear Professor Myers:
I am grateful to have the desire and opportunity to pray for you.
My prayer is that Almighty God will bring you to a knowledge of the Truth so that you can respond to the Good News of Jesus Christ.
Sincerely, …

Your prayers have been answered, and I respond!

Jesus is long dead, and all that’s left is a death cult that probably would have horrified him while he was alive.

Keep praying your little heart out,

Sincerely, PZ Myers.

Comments

  1. birgerjohansson says

    Those are not sunflowers.
    They are Triffids!
    Plant-based intelligence is coming to reclaim the world from Animalia..

  2. outis says

    Well at least it was polite.
    Nice card, written in cursive, pretty illustration, no insults or rants.
    Compared to what you get normally I’d give this four stars (I also admit I have a soft spot for that kind of homey landscape).

  3. Tethys says

    The illustration is pleasant enough, and as Outis said, the rounded cursive handwriting is tidy and tells you the writer is likely an older lady.

    It isn’t the praying that is problematic so much as they sent you a card to passive aggressively inform you that they are praying you come to Jesus. It’s clear that they are so very grateful to proselytize.

  4. Akira MacKenzie says

    “ Jesus is long dead, and all that’s left is a death cult that probably would have horrified him while he was alive.”

    Would he? All we know about Jesus (assuming he existed at all) and his teachings comes from the writings of members of his cult. Of course they’re going paint him as a meek and mild, benevolent peacemaker with divine powers. However, what we’ve seen with other such “holy” personages of more recent times, the historical Jesus was probably closer to the likes of Marshal Applewhite, L. Ron Hubbard, or Charlie Manson: Either a grifter capitalizing on the religious fervor of Roman-occupied Judea, or a frothing-at-the-mouth fanatic with a head full of narcissistic delusion.

    That’s right C.S., he was a “liar” or a “lunatic” (perhaps a bit of both). He was never “lord.”

  5. Knabb says

    One of the other concrete pieces of information we have is that he was a member of an ethnic minority in an occupied province that put up a lot of resistance to imperial occupation, everything written relatively early suggested that the guy also really hated Rome even relative to that baseline. This does not bode well for any claims of approval by most parts of the modern church, being either directly tied to Rome or wrapped up in other imperial projects.

  6. says

    It’s superstitious xtian terrorism even when wrapped in pretty fluff.
    Just Like putting cyanide inside candy and offering it to you with a smile.

    I’ve experienced this type of polite poison from xtian terrorists too many times over the decades. I’m disgusted and angry.

  7. drdrdrdrdralhazeneuler says

    I have to say that the spelling is pretty decent for a christian.

    They also correctly started the word “Truth” with an upper case letter, indicative of a named concept distinct from that denominated by the same word beginning with a lower case letter.

  8. chrislawson says

    Akira MacKenzie@9–

    To be fair to the death cult, it really did entail forgiveness, peace, love, helping the poor and the sick, and non-violence for about 300 years, right up until Constantine realised he could seize the power of this monotheistic movement for political ends. Even then, there have been groups within Christianity who held close to the original messages, such as the Albigenses and the Franciscans. These were, of course, ruthlessly suppressed.

  9. stuffin says

    I would be careful with this one. The genuine concern in her prayers may get Jesus’s attention and the Son of The Almighty will reveal himself and PZ will have no choice but to convert.

  10. StevoR says

    @ ^ stuffin : The Sonof the Almighty or the Almighty who is also the father and the Son and also somehow part divine cocktail stripped of everything but the alcoholic constitiuent of the cocktail?

    As #3 Captain Kendrick wrote, gibberish yet someehow some people believe it and think it makes sense.

  11. John Morales says

    StevoR, it is not gibberish. Look up the term.

    The quoted bit is not gibberish.
    It is a coherent, grammatically correct message written in a formal and sincere tone.

    Inane, formulaic, unsolicited, sure.

    Goddish spam.

    But not gibberish.

    (Do look it up!)

  12. beholder says

    Aww, that’s so sweet! The death cultist knows where you live.

    @19 chigau

    If the timestamp is the part that is making you tilt, then I’ve got bad news about quite possibly the overwhelming majority of timestamped correspondence in the anglophone world.

    MM-DD is objectively better. Numerical order and chronological order are preserved.

  13. StevoR says

    @ ^ Year / Month / Day or Day/ Month / Year are best.

    Month first is just chronologically weird & annoying in my view.

  14. StevoR says

    @17. John Morales :The doctrine of the Trinity – one supernatural person who is their own Father-Son and also extra supernatural entity that’s separate but also the same (Holy Spirit) is gibberish.

    Janus ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janus ) at least is one being albeit w two-heads ditto Cerberus w three and different aspects and personalities are another (real) thing but being your own Father and Son? Sacrificing yourself to yourself to do something magical that as a supposedly all-powerful divinity you could just wish away anyhow? Sense much? Solipsistic Divinity much?That’s the gibbberish I was referring to there.

  15. chigau (違う) says

    beholder #20
    quite possibly the overwhelming majority of timestamped correspondence in the anglophone world
    You are mistaken. Your trailer park is not really the majority of the anglophone world.

  16. says

    Just remember that there has only been one Good Friday in history that is truly “good”: 10 Apr 1998 (signature to the Good Friday Accords, an actual no-kidding peace agreement not-incidentally revolving around centuries of inter-Christian bigotry).

    It’s time, however, to queue up the two mandatory films for this weekend on the DVD player:

    Jesus Christ, Superstar (the cognitive dissonance of character race versus the Received Wisdom is pretty amusing, as is that the one character who is actually paying attention to what’s going on is Judas)

    Monty Python’s Life of Brian (he’s not the Messiah — he’s a very naughty boy)

  17. says

    I wonder how god feels with all these people telling it what to do, or telling it it’s wrong and need to stop doing what it’s doing and do something different?

  18. astringer says

    chigau (違う) 19, beholder 20 and StevoR 21. Welcome to, what I do believe is, a hidden world of the Date Stamp Fanatics. DSTs argue that similar field-work data-files (e.g. instrument logs) should start with the same name, end with ‘yyyymmdd’, and then .txt, .dat etc. Files then listed in chronological order. Document versions the same. At the risk of derailing the thread, I’ve exprienced* as much fanaticism on this topic as the Black Socks League and the Banana People (…xkcd:1982). (* ‘experienced’ as in a personnal rant)

  19. charley says

    She’s so grateful to PZ for her desire to proselytize to him that she sent him a thank you card? Makes about as much sense as the religion she’s peddling.

  20. birgerjohansson says

    Sweden operated two systems in parallel. For registrering births it was yy-mm-dd (this is now the only system). For systems where people had to answer the phone and check the files in a hurry, it used to be dd-mm-yy.

    Re. Yy-mm-dd : to avoid confusion each individual has 3 additional digits unique for each person. There is an additional control digit calculated from the previous 9 digits. Thus a computer has a very good chance of catching a mistyped digit.
    .
    Finland has a very similar system for registering individuals born the same day, but at the end they have two digits and two letters. Instead of 3 + 1 digits.

  21. astringer says

    chigau (違う) at 33
    Was meant to be humour and positive acknowledgement that A.N.Others had noticed the use of m-dd-yyyy. Self and some colleagues have an over sensitivity when we come across filenames incorporating other than yyyymmdd to timestamp. Hence a little similar to xkcd’s view on bananas and socks. ‘Twas out of place, perhaps.

  22. seachange says

    Sweden births appx. 300 people per day. Finland appx. 150 ppd. United States of America 10000-ish. Perhaps a little more inconvenient. :) I wonder which twin gets numbered first?

  23. beholder says

    @35 astringer

    chigau is being antisocial and humorless. I wouldn’t worry about it.

  24. Silentbob says

    MM-DD is objectively better. Numerical order and chronological order are preserved.

    ???? o.O

  25. Silentbob says

    (Incidentally, I’m amused I just visited Mano’s where he has a post about how annoying it is when commenters bear grudges – and then I come to Pharyngula and it’s 90% trolls ripping strips off each other X-D )

  26. StevoR says

    @ ^ Silentbob : Really? That seems far toohigh a percentage if you ask me.. Oh & aren’tyou the guy that spent years hrassing John Morales here? Also you are the (pretty much?) only defender of the very worst troll here who actually helped Trump &the fascist party get power and thus make our world vastly worse. Hypocrite much?

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