Trump has proposed a 2027 budget. Here’s the bottom line.
The budget would increase funding for presidential priorities – such as the military, which would receive US $1.5 trillion, a 44% increase – while reining in spending on many domestic programmes.
A few details:
If you thought last year’s science budget was bad, this year’s is the annihilation of American science. If you’re celebrating the accomplishment of the Artemis 2
NASA faces a 23% cut to its total budget and a 47% drop in funding for its science division. More than 40 projects would be terminated. “It’s an extinction-level event for science,” says Casey Dreier, chief of space policy at the Planetary Society, a non-profit organization in Pasadena, California, that advocates for space exploration. “It would undermine and prevent NASA from being the world leader in space exploration.” NASA declined to comment on Dreier’s statement.
It’s not just NASA!
The proposal would eliminate funding for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s Office of Oceanic and Atmospheric Research. It would also shutter three of the NIH’s 27 institutes and centres – those focusing on minority health and disparities, international research and alternative medicine.
The worst, to me, is cutting the NSF budget to less than half. That’s what funds most of the basic science in biology (biomedicine is a little different, that’s NIH, which has also been cut.)
And what, pray tell, are the president’s priorities? He’s going to tell us, while also addressing Russell Vought, the Project 2025 guy.
Not daycare, not Medicare, not Medicaid, none of the “little things”, which includes science — we can’t afford anything but war. We’re too busy paying for wars.
We have one little glimmer of hope. The president does not have the power to set the budget — everything he has said is a “recommendation”. Congress sets the budget. This will be negotiated next fall, starting in October, at a time when many congresspeople are thinking about the 2027 elections, and we have to put the fear of the electorate in their minds, starting now. Trump wants to tax people more and cut essential services to fund more war, and I don’t think that’s a winning election message. Throw them out!
PZ titled it ‘the man is insane’
I reply: you have a gift for understatement. That pile of excrement is more malicious and morally bankrupt than any one I can think if right now. There is no bottom to the Death Spiral they are pushing us down.
PZ correctly stated ‘Congress sets the budget.’
I reply, but congress is a decaying carcass. There is no sane power at the wheel, just a heavy foot on the gas to propel what is left of this country and the world (dare I repeat it?) down the Death Spiral.
$152 million to reopen Alcatraz.
If these magats cut medicare and social security, they are committing grand theft from all the millions of people that have paid into those programs as a mandatory investment toward retirement. I want to see some torches and pitchforks destroying the magat castles.
Yeah, this proposed budget is just about as stupid and evil as it gets. (So far anyway.)
That $1.5 trillion for the US military is just pointless.
Even the US military has no idea about what to spend all that money on.
It really just looks like the GOP vision for the USA is endless warfare.
We’ve already bombed 7 different countries in the last year.
Just say no.
Good point.
Social Security and Medicare have nothing to do with the US yearly budgets.
These are independent self funding programs.
People occasionally point out that Social Security will run out of money in 2033.
That isn’t true either.
Social Security will never run out of money.
What will happen in 2033 is that spending will be more than income for this program.
Which means that benefits will be reduced to 80% of what they are now.
It’s not ideal but 80% of current payments is far better than 0 future payments.
This is fixable without too many problems if we start now.
These days, 2033 is essentially infinity when our planning horizon is 4 hours, down from 4 years.
While it is fixable, our dysfunctional government shows no signs of being able to do anything these days.
Thanks, Raven, you always provide so much important info.
For all the supposition about being a Russian asset, Trump’s fixation on non-strategic military adventure and cutting research funds to shreds is even more helpful to Xi’s geopolitical agenda than Putin’s.
If I recall correctly the video in the link was never supposed to be public.
Fortunately, the evil klown kar is staffed by incompetents, and the video was briefly publicly available. By the time they noticed and took it down a journalist had already copied it.
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Another fun fact: ICE is now actively targeting families of servicemen. It used to be that the families of servicemen were a protected group who would fast-tracked for citizenship once the servicemember had completed a certain length of service.
ICE is now preparing to pounce on non-citizen relatives who show up for the graduation ceremonies.
Yeah, I think pretty soon Xi’s going to be the one recognized as “the most powerful man in the world.” China’s been practicing a simple, solid piece of advice from their iconic general, Sun Tzu: “Don’t interrupt your enemy when they’re making a mistake.”
Should I?
This is a rumor that is all over social media, all of them.
There is some slight corroboration as the White House is shut down to the press as of hours ago.
He is obviously a very sick man and it isn’t hard to believe.
And in the last few weeks, he has started looking worse and worse.
All I know.
He tried to cut the NIH budget by 40% last year. Congress balked and restored the cuts, although not to a level that kept pace with inflation. Of course he’s going to try again.
Trump is so low, and so small, and so dense, that to describe him, we’ll need a theory of quantum gravity.
Nathaniel, but he started a war with the power vested upon him by the USA.
And his approval rating right now is around 39%.
Well over 100 million people, that is. More like 130m. Who approve.
(Not exactly an obscure personage)
Unsurprising. He “loves the uneducated”. He hates the intelligent and people who know facts.
There’s a pretty good conversation over at LGM about private enterprise being dependent on general research, but unwilling to pay for it.
This is a bad thing.
fishy, if it both depends on it and does not pay for it, it is a net business benefit.
Maximises profit.
(One fails to see the problem; absent other premises, both of our claims are true and equivalent)
I don’t think that will flush and I can’t find the plunger.
O fishy fishy fishy:
Yeah, Trump has also been known to talk about the feeble flushing or regular toilets
Point being, you are being evasive.
For you: I mean it remains the case that both claims are true under the same premise‑set.
(I get “I can’t find the plunger” means you cannot reconcile the truth with your claim)
I don’t know why I want this idiocy to continue, but, the plunger symbolizes an attempt to relieve a problem and make it go away, because it’s kind of a messy problem that I would rather not deal with, thank you very much.
I heard about a frat ritual once where they held the head of an initiate in the toilet. They called it a, “Swirly.”
He is insane, but to be fair, this budget proposal is the most “normal Republican” thing he’s done
which doesn’t speak well of Republicans
fishy,
“I heard about a frat ritual once where they held the head of an initiate in the toilet. They called it a, “Swirly.””
In Oz, that form of hazing is categorised as ‘bastardisation’.
Over the top, but a thing.
You are still avoiding the point.
Hidden premises.
Reciprocity, for one.
No free rides.
People have to pay for what they get.
(That is one of your hidden premises)
Fishy isn’t ignoring your point. They are very politely ignoring your attempt to start a pointless debate, while comparing you to a clogged toilet.
Ah, Tethys. You make me happy.
“Fishy isn’t ignoring your point. They are very politely ignoring your attempt to start a pointless debate, while comparing you to a clogged toilet.”
Comparing me to a clogged toilet? Trump talks about clogged toilets.
And fishy (no caps there) talks about private enterprise being dependent on general research, but unwilling to pay for it.
Yes. My point is obvious. Premise.
This is the implicit claim: Reciprocity, for one.
No free rides.
People have to pay for what they get.
Private enterprise for one.
(Whether it does, sorta, is left out since the very premise is left out)
Therefore, fishy (no capital, I have that much respect) implicitly claiming private enterprise should pay for what it gets from the commons is a rather capitalistic stance. Or, to be polite, market‑normative.
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I’m old enough to remember TAMSTAAFL.
fishy’s specific requirement.
[ack! Typo!! I meant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_such_thing_as_a_free_lunch — emnoen]
I am not sure what the point is or even if there is one.
The situation proposed by the “A***!”, spending cuts for everything but his favorite bits like defense will hit research hard. corporate tax cuts and massive cuts because of a huge deficit means that corporate research will not be able to rely on free to them government research. so two simple choices they pay for their own research or they fall behind countries and corporations who do pay for the research, there may be more possibilities just going by limited knowledge and an inability to predict the future.
We had a brief shining moment of glory. But in the end, poets will no doubt have the final words on the rise and fall of the American empire.
These are the president’s plans for Tuesday
http://youtube.com/post/UgkxapVDl9_e3tZ7e5A5NmVN7MKdhds9_Y7D
My one data point. I started my post-academic career at the research center for a major oil company. In the mid-80’s we had about 1200 people on site and generated about 100 patents per year in oil refining technology, catalysts, plastics, composites, chemical waste management, geology and geophysics, and even a bit of biotechnology. Then the Accountants rose to the top of management and one by one entire segments of research were cut. The philosophy was that we could simply license technology rather than develop new stuff. Of course, we had a large, profitable licensing division marketing our own technology, but no matter.
The sign out front reflected the changes going from Research and Development, to Technology Center to … nothing. The sign is gone. The people are gone. The site is leased out to anybody who wants to overpay for laboratory space. Once it’s gone, it’s gone.
“Trump wants to tax people more and cut essential services to fund more war, and I don’t think that’s a winning election message.”
PZ, you’re giving the American people too much credit. All they have to say is that anybody who opposes this budget doesn’t support the troops. These are the same voters who re-elected Trump.
A lot of the Republicans are retiring after this election anyway, so I don’t think you can put much pressure on them electorally. Do they even care about the party past their retirement?
2027 elections?