Swankiest little whorehouse in Palm Beach
Everything Trump says is, at best, a half-truth. He’s been claiming that he kicked Epstein out of Mar-A-Lago because he was poaching his employees, which is partly true. What he doesn’t mention is that this was after years of privileged access to resort employees. We have more details published in the Wall Street Journal.
Per the report published on Tuesday, Trump sent young women who worked for the Palm Beach resort to Epstein’s home for massage sessions, a perk afforded to some members of the Florida club. The resort kept up this practice for years, even though Epstein was not a member of the club.
The outlet reported that “the house calls went on… even as spa employees warned each other about Epstein.” Employees told the paper that Epstein “known among staff for being sexually suggestive and exposing himself during the appointments.”
Epstein associate Ghislaine Maxwell is known to have used the resort to recruit women and girls for the late sex trafficker. One of Epstein’s most vocal accusers, Virginia Giuffre, was pulled into Epstein’s orbit while working at Mar-a-Lago. Giuffre, who died by suicide earlier this year, had refuted accusations that Trump was involved in Epstein’s sex crimes.
The president said earlier this year that Epstein’s poaching of employees like Giuffre was part of the reason their friendship came to an end. The report dug into the much-discussed falling out between Trump and Epstein in 2003. Per employees who spoke to the outlet, Trump barred Maxwell and Epstein from Mar-a-Lago after an 18-year-old employee returned from a house call and said that Epstein “pressured her for sex.”
Mar-A-Lago was a pedophile hunting ground for years and years, and even if Trump didn’t directly rape any young women, he was an enabler who turned a blind eye to Epstein/Maxwell calling up and asking to have women delivered for “massages”.
Did Ms Giuffre really ‘refute’ accusations against Trump? I thought that she merely ‘rebutted’ them.
Can I borrow your most powerful microscope, PZ? I need it to identify just how surprised I am by this news.
“and even if Trump didn’t directly rape any young women”
There are million dollar settlement payments by Trump going back to the 80s, well documented. For girls and boys. There is at least one then 13yo that Trump and Epstein are said to have raped together, and I doubt this was the only one.
While the whole Epstein problem is important, the big problem now is the blowing up of America’s health system. This is going to blow up in the GOP’s face big time next November. The destruction of America’s health care system at the hands of Roadkill Kennedy Jr. is going to be an issue also. People can blow off Epstein, but when large portions of America can no longer afford healthcare, that can’t be just waved away as partisan bickering. The GOP is committing suicide right in front of our eyes.
@4,
“This is going to blow up in the GOP’s face big time next November.”
The GOP is not the GOP anymore. This is now a MAGA club, easliy recognizable by Mar-a-Lago faces, Jan 06 insurrection denial and general disdain for the rule of what used to be law. The recent changes to USPS mean mail-in voting is essentially fucked. There will be no midterm election, is my suspicion, but if there is, it will neither be free or fair.
@4 cheerfulcharlie
Is it? You are an optimist. I can no longer believe that people will do the sensible thing. By the time the election rolls around, Republicans will find, or fabricate, some issue to distract their easily distractable base. Do you remember when the abortion issue was going to save us? Do you remember “anti-woke” and critical race theory?
Trump and his co-conspirators are going to try to “unfairly win” the 2026 elections. I think it is likely that very few people will describe their efforts as ‘successful’, but I am disconcertingly confident that those efforts are going to splash….and quite possibly splash dangerously. When things splash the ‘Left’ (i.e. those of us who value truth and fairness) needs to be very clear that it is interested in truth and justice and not hateful hyperbole (we will be accused of ‘hateful hyperbole’, but that is nothing new). A calm demeanor and heartfelt words will be very useful. To reverse a Republican talking point from a number of years ago, it is past time for the sane people to take control of the asylum.
I haven’t seen reports recently, and I am sympathetic to those who come to this country for a better life, but about a year ago there were news articles about how all of the many illegal immigrants that were servants/slaves at smarm-a-lardo were being ignored by ALL law enforcement. I would love to see the ‘puppy-killer’ storm that dump and deport all their employees.
Cartomancer @ 2 beat me to it.
A criminal sleazebag was a criminal sleazebag back in 2003, too.
Nothing will change. Trump could rape a 13-year-old on 5th Ave. and nothing will happen.
@ Birger: And that is why the rich and powerful are afraid of this. I don’t think many of them joined the “party”, but they must have known and chose not to see.
Erlend Meyer @ 11
We saw a similar phenomenon in Britain: Jimmy Savile.
Everyone working in media appears to have heard the rumors.
The only one who spoke out was John Lydon aka Johnny Rotten of Sex Pistols, anf his interview was censored.
Iarpar @ 10
There appears to be two MAGA groups. One group just hate on darkies and other minorities and don’t care about Epstein.
Another group may be awful in general, but genuinely care about what Epstein did to all those girls. The Republicans cannot afford to lose either group, but one of them is peeling off.
birgerjohansson @#13
Call me when Trump faces consequences/accountability for anything.
rorschach @ # 3: There are million dollar settlement payments by Trump going back to the 80s, well documented.
factually.co:
Please rebut.
“Multiple fact‑checks have taken apart the circulating meme that lists six named children, ages and precise settlement amounts, concluding there is no documentary proof for those alleged payouts and that several named “victims” could not be corroborated in public records or credible reporting”
Not saying it did not happen, only that there is no documentation available.
(This is where heuristics are a guide)