The right-wingers are now outraged by the announcement that BadBunny will be doing the Superbowl halftime show — he’s a Puerto Rican! He sings in Spanish! It’s Reggaeton, and as we all know, that ain’t real music! They’re torn up with anguish, that the music during halftime may not be twangy country music about pickup trucks and beer and unfaithful women. It’s very sad for them. TPUSA announced that they would host an alternative halftime show, but they haven’t provided any details and haven’t any specific artist they would include.
So someone posted a fake playbill listing an epic bunch of conservative artists. People fell for it.
Kid Rock
Ted Nugent
Travis Tritt
Jason Aldean
Aaron Lewis (of Staind)
John Rich
Lee Greenwood
Forgigato Blow
Featuring a guest appearance from MEASLES
That’s a horrible collection of washed-up freaks and fossils, all packed into an imaginary 20 minute show. I like that special guest, which should have given the game away, but I found people actually asking what band Measles was.
It’s all cope. The conservatives are desperate to capture popular culture, but they aren’t popular, and they don’t understand what’s good about music or entertainment.
All of this reflects what is a small ray of hope in our bleak political moment. MAGA’s relationship with pop culture only has two forms: Complete cluelessness and/or resentment that most people think their taste stinks. This matters, because it’s been a truism on the far-right for decades now that capturing the culture is the key to obtaining their larger political goals. MAGA influencers love to repeat, like parrots, Andrew Breitbart’s motto that “politics is downstream from culture.” The Christian right also has a version of this, which Kirk promoted: The “seven mountains mandate,” which holds that is crucial for conservative Christians to control pop culture. Over the years, untold amounts of money have been poured by right-wing donors and investors into remaking the culture in MAGA’s image, in hopes that will turn American hearts toward authoritarianism and evangelical Christianity.
But they are throwing their money to the wind. As I wrote recently, for all the hype around Kirk’s memorial, the actual event didn’t resonate beyond his existing fanbase. Nearly all the performers hailed from the world of worship music; there was nary a nod to what might resonate with people outside white evangelical subculture. This reflects a reality that the mainstream media ignored in the wake of Kirk’s murder. Even though he was widely known on college campuses, due to the ubiquity of his videos falsely promising to dunk on liberal college kids, he wasn’t well-liked. Although 94% of college students said in a recent survey they had heard of Kirk, a full 70% said they didn’t agree with his views.
Their idea of comedy is Joe Rogan and his stable of half-witted hangers-on. The Daily Wire — Ben Shapiro’s company — had a whole entertainment division to make movies and TV shows (remember Lady Ballers?), and it’s disintegrating as we watch. It’s CEO Jeremy Boreing has stepped down, and right now they’re just a money sink for billionaires. They’re coming out with a fantasy series, The Pendragon Cycle, which the teaser trailer reveals to be a series of set pieces of major battles featuring a dozen extras on each side, long slow character portraits, and guys with beards yelling a lot.
I think it’s going to bomb. Boreing decided to trade in the limp humor of his previous effort for taking himself far too seriously, and that doesn’t work.
With a name like that, we know how the entertainment will end up.
No Chachi??? Pass.
I had gotten not too deeply into reggaeton like 20 years ago. I had gone to a Chilean party in Miami while visiting with a friend’s family and they were listening to it and drinking pisco sours (one of several points of contention between Chileans and Peruvians if memory serves). Anyway I liked the music and would watch videos on some Latin American TV channelS that had music video shows. Remember when TV networks aired music videos instead of reality shows? Reggaeton often featured scantily clad women dancing to the music (and fancy cars). Who am I to complain? Before reggaeton there was Latin freestyle which was pretty cool. TKA, Stevie B, etc…
I had heard floated before that TPUSA would tap Creed to play an alternate Super Bowl show which would be a shame as it would bring even more hate upon a band that has more than its fair share already. They killed it in the late 90s. Scott Stapp became a train wreck later on and infamously hung out with Kid Rock. There might be a video.
I’m not familiar at all with Bad Bunny. I’d assume the show would have an array of well known performers besides Bad Bunny. If the Chiefs make the Super Bowl again, I will probably skip the game altogether. I hate the Chiefs, nothing against Bad Bunny.
Kid Rock and Ted Nugent would be the music performance from hell. No thanks. Two dingbats. AND Lee Greenwood? Seriously? I mean, he’s still alive? I don’t imagine Zach Bryan would be invited to sing about ICE.
I do still like Creed, despite all the hate, and despite Stapp.
I heard it was going to feature Lee Greenwood singing God Bless The USA.
For those who don’t know, he is an old country music singer. 82 years old and a right wingnut crackpot.
He is a hardcore xian nationalist. He had his first child at age 17 and has been married 5 times.
This is common in southern fundie xian redneck culture.
I’ve never heard any of his music and don’t care to waste any time on it.
This is more or less trivial and irrelevant.
Anyone can host an alternative halftime show.
There will be millions of them.
I’ll probably hang out with my cat and take a walk or something.
I’d barely heard of Bad Bunny until a few months ago.
He is apparently a world famous music artist these days, sings in Spanish, and avoids the US mainland so ICE won’t attack his concerts looking for Spanish speakers.
I’ve listened to some of his music and it is OK.
The DJ for the Dance of Defiance yesterday played a couple of his songs.
Oh and it is a possibility that Aaron Rodgers (yeah that jackass) will make the Super Bowl with the Steelers. That would also reduce my desire to watch the game. I would probably root for the Chiefs to beat the Steelers in a playoff game, but that would mean no Super Bowl for me either way. I hate Rodgers more than the Chiefs.
If Lee Greenwood is part of the TPUSA halftime show I would guess they will also be hawking those bibles he and Trump are selling.
I forget who pointed this out, but what the right really wants is cultural power, and they think that political power will get it for them. That will never work, and that’s why they will be forever angry and bitter.
The fact that both Rogan and Kirk were failed screen writers tells you something.
I have a question. Tucker Carlson had a huge media audience, but was he ever funny? My impression was that he was all about anger. Most people find anger stressful, not entertaining. But if anger is what MAGA wants, no wonder that comedy is dominated by “liberals!”
Not sure why the far-right hate Bad Bunny so much. Maybe it’s because he’s from Puerto Rico, and they hate being reminded that PR is part of the USA, therefore those Spanish-speakers get to count as Americans.
Speaking of football, all I can say is I might kinda sorta root for Taylor Swift’s Team as long as they’re not playing the Commanders, Ravens, Eagles, Steelers or 49ers.
Well, we have Trump’s latest AI effort, dropping feces on demonstrators. You have to admit that is funny in a sick kind of way. Will we see future AI political humor wars? That could be fun!
Heh.
@11 Raging Bee
I think it’s mostly that he doesn’t perform in English.
When a
fascistconservative gives me that attitude, I ask them if they think immigrants should learn the language of the country to which they immigrate.Presuming they say yes, I next ask them why we are not holding this conversation in Cherokee‽
@10 Ted Lawry
Do you mean intentionally funny?
Their idea of comedy is Joe Rogan and his stable of half-witted hangers-on.
Rogan may be on the way out in the MAGA-verse, having dared criticized the Dear Leader.
Joe Rogan Tears into Trump’s Immigration Crackdown: ‘Horrific’
You know what else is horrific? An immigration crackdown was one of Trump’s campaign promises, along with tariffs and revenge. Apparently it took Rogan almost a year to realize that Trump wasn’t lying about absolutely everything.
If the MAGA crowd are upset that Puerto Ricans are US citizens they should complain to president McKinley, who annexed every weakly protected island from the Caribbean to the Philippines. Wasn’t he a Republican?
Even worse, anything with “Columb..” in the name is named after a part Jewish W****.
Yet even worse, the whole continent is named after an oily little Spaniard with garlic breath.
Excellent! I love a good nature documentary about birds of prey.
What? Are you telling me that it’s not a proper documentary, but just a film written by an illiterate? Damn.
“Remember when TV networks aired music videos instead of reality shows?”
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FIRST I use the time machine to go after the piss-poor Austrian painter.
THEN I go after the inventor of reality shows. If he was born when John Lennon was alive, I will nail his shooter too.
As someone with a profound lack of interest in popular music, and an actual distaste for football, I really don’t care who or what does the half-time show or who objects and tries to run an alternate. But, then, I also disdain That Felon in the White House and all those that support him.
But…didn’t Ricky Martin start with spanish before going bilingual? Or is it that Bad Bunny does not pass for north european?
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Merlin is a perfectly good engine, associated with shooting down far-right scum from the skies.
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Trump’s latest AI effort seems to recognise the humor level of South Park as legitimate political discourse. And Trump cannot win that battle.
Not with South Park Peter Thiel saying the devils’ asshole was made so small precisely so Trump would be unable to sire Antichrist with him.
Why not just play videos of kirk’s funeral service running at 3x and set to the music of Yakkity Sax? Give the magats something they can laugh at and cry over at the same time? That’d be gold, Jerry. Gold!
Metaphorical cancer: the MAGA movement and DJT
Non-metaphorical Cancer:
mRNA-based COVID vaccines generate improved responses to immunotherapy
.https://medicalxpress.com/news/2025-10-mrna-based-covid-vaccines-generate.html
Mixed bag: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/19/inside-the-republican-network-behind-big-sodas-bid-to-pit-maga-against-maha
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A Guardian investigation finds the US soda and snack-food industries, threatened by RFK Jr’s movement to change Americans’ eating habits, have turned to a group of well-connected strategists, shadowy pollsters and ‘anti-woke’ influencers
Josh Voorhees
Sun 19 Oct 2025 22.00 AEDT
Major US soft-drink and snack-food corporations are waging a coordinated campaign that aims to pit Donald Trump’s Maga faithful against Robert F Kennedy Jr’s Make America Healthy Again movement, a Guardian investigation in partnership with environmental watchdog Fieldnotes has found. Their goal is to stymie the Maha-led effort to curb Americans’ consumption of soda and ultra-processed foods.
To carry out the plan, the companies have turned to a partially formalized network of for-hire pollsters, strategists and political financiers with deep ties to the national Republican party – several of whom have taken steps that obscure their connection to the effort and to one another. In the process, the industry has also been aided less directly by a loose coalition of free-market ideologues who have previously worked to advance Trump’s deregulatory agenda.
The effort features Maga influencers hired by a firm that promotes “anti-woke” movies; an obscure research group Lee Zeldin was working for when Donald Trump picked him to lead the US Environmental Protection Agency; and a media outlet backed by rightwing billionaires Leonard Leo and Charles Koch, among others.
…US soda and snack-food industries, threatened by RFK Jr’s movement to change Americans’ eating habits…
Oh please. Does anyone really think a Republican administration and a Republican Congress will ever pass any regulation to inconvenience any large corporation to make people safer or healthier? Has RFKwack ever proposed any new laws or regulations? After firing almost all the “deep state” bureaucrats who were enforcing what little regs we still had?
Well, not normal people, but making sense is not the MAGA way, Raging Bee
cf. https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/18/rfk-jr-s-movement-is-coming-to-his-defense-00571826
cf. https://www.bmj.com/content/389/bmj.r871.full
But, but but..we had fireworks!!1ty!
Everyone likes fireworks don’t they??! Why, why didn’t our fireworks at Kirk’s fun–er memorial hate rally thing just rock and catch on? (Sobs in MAGAt)
PS. Funny how the Kirk thing has dropped of the radar now esp the supposed trans lover of his groyper assassin. Its almost like they didn’t really care all that much or something..
StevoR, heh. Fireworks literally yield chemtrails. Ironic, eh?
@17. birgerjohansson :
Yep.
Source : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_McKinley
Umm, I’ve heard the theory that Columbus was part Jewish and a Marrano* but I’m not sure its true.
Also the guy the whole set of continents – North, South & Latin / Central was an Italian not Sanish – Amerigo Vespucci. Funny that America came form his first name but apparently his last is hard tospell and has alot of variants and I don’t know if Vespuccia has quoite the ssame ring. Guess we’re also not used to it. If my vague recollectionof history serves I guess Vespucci would actually technically count a s a Florintine or am I mistaken?.
Source : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerigo_Vespucci
From ‘Origins of Columbus’ wikipage :
Source : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_theories_of_Christopher_Columbus#Crypto-Judaism
Plausible but unconfirmed, hard to tell for sure with such passage of time and need for secrecy given persecution. Either way, not sure it reflects badly on his mother aside from Columbus doing wel what eh did and being who he was – even for his time.
Ladies and gentlemen, The Producers Prequel Reboot!
(this has to be a scheme for a tax write-off)
@28. John Morales : “StevoR, heh. Fireworks literally yield chemtrails. Ironic, eh?”
Yup. Plus after all their OTT savage condemnations of anyone who didn’t take Kirk’s death as seriously as they did and especially anyone who joked about it, they celebrate it with .. fireworks?! Found that really ironic too.
What they really wished and hoped for was their own Horst Wessel moment* and excuse for a bloodbathand they were so disappointed not to get it when that the killer turned out to be one of theirs. A groyper who killed their nazi for not being nazi enough. “Funny” albeit predictable that there seems to have been no crackdown on them..
.* See : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horst_Wessel
So I’ve been watching some Aussie horror. Wolf Creek then Bring Her Back and holy hell what was that? Now I’m watching Talk to Me and they are featuring some Aussie music. Thank you Shazam. Never heard of ONEFOUR before. “My City”:
Sounds like ONEFOUR has been through a lot. Maybe add them to the Super Bowl line up for some international flavour?
StevoR, re:
It’s mentioned there, but it’s fringe.
What do Spanish scientists think of that?
https://english.elpais.com/science-tech/2024-10-14/scientists-cast-doubt-on-claims-christopher-columbus-was-a-sephardic-jew-from-spain.html
Just saw that trailer — Whiskey Tango Actual Foxtrot?! I thought Uther Pendragon was a Pagan king, and Merlin a Pagan wizard. Why would US Christian culture-warriors be involved with this sort of story? And who’s the tall white woman stepping into an arena wearing nothing but a bikini? I don’t mind the eye-candy, but I’m pretty sure no one dressed that way for any occasion in Post-Roman Britain. Also, that was a really fancy sword and sheath being dramatically drawn — was anyone making swords of that quality back then? Will we get to see the violence inherent in the system?
Raging Bee, the Arthurian legend has been thoroughly Christianised, after
The Arthurian mythos as shaped by medieval Christian authors is about the Holy Grail, divine providence, and chivalric virtue. While early Celtic and Welsh sources sorta featured Pagan motifs, the dominant narrative inherited by modern audiences is thoroughly Christian.
(Never saw the Monty Python movie?)
cf. https://tamuengl330.wordpress.com/2017/10/15/christianity-in-arthurian-literature/
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“And who’s the tall white woman stepping into an arena wearing nothing but a bikini? I don’t mind the eye-candy, but I’m pretty sure no one dressed that way for any occasion in Post-Roman Britain.”
Obs, I’ve not seen the clip. But probably a ref to Boudica.
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“Also, that was a really fancy sword and sheath being dramatically drawn — was anyone making swords of that quality back then?”
cf. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AudibleSharpness
[… after C12 — I keep overwriting shit. Grr]
I read that the other day I was like who is the Measles? And almost simultaneously I was ROTFL.
@34. John Morales : Ah, fair enough. Thanks. Had heard / read that secret Jewish Columbus idea mentioned in a few sources and thought it seemed plausible but yeah.
Measles seems like a good band namn tho. Id prefer Ghost for the half-time show, the headlines after would be glorius.
This seems like a good example of “Poe’s Law,” that extreme views cannot be distinguished from satire of them. After all, remember Tony Hinchcliffe’s “humorous” take on Puerto Rico and Puerto Ricans at a Trump rally last year. My first reaction to it was to consider it a real possibility, and to assume that the guest appearance of Measles was the right wing version of a joke, like the Trump supporters bearing signs that real men wear diapers, or Trump clowning with a golden crown. Nothing owns the libs better than ridiculing the truth.
Just wait. These days nothing is too stupid or crazy.
@36: I thought that, according to the earliest sources, the (probably legendary) Arthur is supposed to have been a ~5th century Romano-British (and therefore Christian) chieftain fighting again the (pagan) Anglo-Saxon invaders.
Raging Bee @35:
I mean, the company that did a movie version of The Dark is Rising (renamed ‘The Seeker’ after the original author complained about the massive liberties taken with the story) was also an explicitly Christian filmmaker, in fact the same one that did the Chronicles of Narnia film adaptations which were a whole lot better, at least for as far as they went.
When I watched The Seeker (for free on an airplane, I wasn’t paying money for it) my reaction went from ‘okay, this might not be that bad’ at scene involving a window collapse and a feather which was pretty straight from the books, to ‘okay, WTF?’ when he was being chased by possessed mall cops, to ‘whose asshole did they pull that from’ when they got to the climactic moment which was simultaneously antithetical to the book’s concept and so blatantly telegraphed that I’d seen it coming from halfway through the movie. The only worthwhile thing about the movie was watching Christopher Eccleston leaving tooth-marks in the scenery.
Arthurian legend is safe for these clowns. It’s satisfies the “warrior” fetish of their target audience. It can be easily Christianized to make the Bible-humpers happy if need be. Most importantly, it’s in the public domain so they don’t have to spend a lot on writers or licensing.
@42 stevewatson
The earliest sources are Welsh, from the late 5th to early 6th century, and everyone involved is “pagan”, though there were plenty of Irish monks nattering about building hermitages and scriptoriums. Britain didn’t start to convert to Christianity until after St Augustine arrived in 597.
Arther is a minor chieftain in the Epic Poem that recounts a battle between the Angles of Deira, and the Kingdom of Gododdin. He dies, along with the Gododdin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y_Gododdin
The religious elements and Merlin(a completely separate folkloric character) were written by Geoffrey of Monmouth around 1136 in De gestis Britonum (On the Deeds of the Britons). It begins with Trojans founding Briton after the Trojan war, which was a common trope in the medieval period.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historia_Regum_Britanniae
@35 ragingbee
I am guessing it’s supposed to be Morgaine le Fey? There is another scene where she is swimming up to the surface of a lake, so she is the famous strange woman known for lying around in ponds, giving out swords.
Aka- Lady of Avalon.
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Amerigo is coincidentally linguistically related to the names Merlin, Morgaine, and the term Marrano.
All refer to dark things. Amerigo comes from a variety of sweet black cherry, which are called morellos or maraschinos. America is the land of cherry trees.
(and Christobo Colon is well documented to be a Catholic from Genoa, Italy)
Merlin has the feminine form Merline/Merlene, and refers to magical enchanters who live in magical lakes and streams. The song Jolene by Dolly Parton is based on a folk song about Merlene.
Murrano means Moorish, but the same mer/mor/mar word part is also in the Spanish words for purple (morado) and blackberry/mulberry. (Mora)
Homer refer to this with his wine dark seas.
Merlot and Burgundy also include this wine/dark color term, though I don’t know why m gets turned into b in Central Europe.
Tethys, ‘Morales’ is ‘mulberry trees’. I have reason to know that. (Mulberries are ‘moras’)
Also, the etymology of ‘marrano’ is disputed, but it has nothing to do with darkness or colour; here is the Spanish Wiki entry:
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marrano_(judeoconverso)#Etimolog%C3%ADa_y_apelativos_relacionados
(pig is the consensus referent)
@John
I disagree with that pig etymology.
Moorish as a euphemism for dark skinned is attested in multiple medieval texts.
My Spanish is indeed Castellano, and a mulberry tree would be morare.
Tethys, you’re not disputing me, but the article regarding marranos.
But I do know my own name: https://www.heraldicafamiliar.com/morales/
My grandfather had a proper coat of arms made and all; told me the story of the knight who had his sword broken in a hot fight with the moors, so he grabbed a bough of mulberry and smote them with that, and got knighted. (Yes, a story for the kiddies. But this is in Spain, and he took the name seriously, did Don Emilio)
re the etymology, what would the Spanish know about Spanish, eh?
[translated]
Un árbol es un moral; dos son morales.
The moorish meaning is still implicit in the moorish word for young pigs, though that entire explanation begs the question, why would Muslims be raising pigs in the first place?
Arboles de mora is another way you could say mulberry tree in Spanish. I’m not sure if Castillian allows one to compound that into the single word morales, but I am familiar with this naming concept in Spanish.
I very much distrust etymology that includes all that blatant racism about Jews grunting like pigs. I had to run parts of that Spanish wiki through translate to be sure I was reading it correctly, and it got even worse. :(
Tethys, I was born in Madrid and lived there until age 12.
I collected mulberry leaves to feed the silkworms.
But fine: https://dle.rae.es/moral#Pm4ASgI
(I highlighted the word you intended, which also means the same, but I was always talking about my name)
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De mora2 y -al. [second sense; the other is the same as in English]
m. Árbol oriundo de Asia, de la familia de las moráceas, de cinco a seis metros de altura, con tronco grueso y derecho, copa amplia, hojas ásperas, lanuginosas, acorazonadas, dentadas o lobuladas por el margen, y flores unisexuales en amentos espiciformes, separadas las masculinas de las femeninas. Su fruto es la mora.
Sin.: **moreda**.
m. Árbol ecuatoriano tropical, de la familia de las moráceas, de madera incorruptible, muy empleada en la construcción de casas.
Left-wing culture is not that great, either, in a similar sense.
cf. https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/meidastouch-turns-democrats-minds-to-slop
Left wing culture is not represented by a single independent news group like Meidastouch. ( I agree that their headlines are clickbait, but the information is accurate, though not as dramatic as the headline.)
I’m sure Current Affairs would love to have the viewership of the medias network, though I did snicker at the idea that Democrats have longed for their very own Joe Rogan. No, we don’t want yet more idiot white men with delusions of grandeur broadcasting their misinformation.
The left would prefer media that actually reports the news instead of right wing propaganda.
Nobody needs more gossip rags and lies.
I didn’t need to read the article. I’ve been annoyed by Meidas Touch for quite some time (except maybe for Tennessee Brando on occasion). But there are other leftish channels in my Youtube feed that engage in such clickbait. You get reeled in thinking some huge thing has happened per Trump or whatever, and that was not the case at all.
Some F1 channels do similar things with misleading thumbnails about some juicy topic like Piastri going scorched earth against McLaren or Hamilton losing his shit with Ferrari. When you watch you realize those things were not the case at all. Annoying both for politics and motorsports.
@John
Yes, I’ve noticed. It’s a cute anecdote how your surname comes from mulberry trees rather than the more common meaning of morals. You can take up your quibble between morare and morales with the Spanish language. As I previously noted, mora is also the Spanish word for blackberry, and the related term Morisco is both an ethnic term and a variety of grape.
The oldest written reference I can find to moorish being used as a racial slur is from the late Roman era. Attila had a brother named Bleda. Bleda had a “Moorish Dwarf” named Zerco. Zerco was from Maurentia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zerco
The term Blackamoor was the Medieval English equivalent, though by that time Moorish included people of multiple ethnicities and melanin levels from the Middle East to Iberia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moors
Maybe Francisco de Torrejoncillo should have read more Roman historians before writing his deeply anti-Semitic
just-so story about swine based racial slurs.
The common thread between all those mer/mor/mur terms in various European languages is dark fruit, dark magic, and dark complexions.
Incidentally, the English equivalent to murrano (a young pig) is barrow. Another example of m shifting to b?
“You can take up your quibble between morare and morales with the Spanish language.”
It is not a quibble, it is authoritative. It is factual.
Just as when I adduce the Vatican for Catholic claims, I adduced the Royal Spanish Academy.
It is definitive about the Spanish language, its remit is to prevent decay and keep it up to date, and they make the dictionaries. Castellano, se llama.
“(The Royal Spanish Academy (Spanish: Real Academia Española, pronounced [reˈal akaˈðemja espaˈɲola]; RAE) is Spain’s official royal institution with a mission to ensure the stability of the Spanish language. It is based in Madrid, Spain, and is affiliated with national language academies in 22 other Hispanophone nations through the Association of Academies of the Spanish Language.[1]”
(Royal Spanish Academy)
The RAE dedicates itself to language planning by applying linguistic prescription aimed at promoting linguistic unity within and between various territories, to ensure a common standard. The proposed language guidelines are shown in a number of works.”
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Spanish_Academy)
The quibbling is entirely on your part, and your speculative and facile attempted dabblings regarding a foreign language exhibit something about which I am often accused, Tethys.
lol, decay?
You are known for quibbling over things that nobody said. Your name wasn’t on my list of mer words that imply dark so why do you keep nattering on about it?
Dialect is apparently fine when you want to score rhetorical points over murrano, even when your own source noted that it’s deeply racist and a source of dispute among linguists . Typical morales.
Yes, preventing decay. So it stays accurate to the prescribed forms.
“The Spanish Academy was founded in 3 August 1713 on the initiative of Pacheco, with the purpose of “fixing the voices and words of the Castilian language in their greatest propriety, elegance and purity”.[3] The objective was to fix the language in the state of fullness that it had reached during the 16th century and that had been consolidated in the 17th century. The Italian Accademia della Crusca founded in 1582 and the Académie Française founded in 1635 were taken as models.[4]” (Ibid.)
Because I was directly responding to your retort which I literally quoted (“You can take up your quibble between morare and morales with the Spanish language.”)
That is why.
You are fabulating.
This was my original claim: “Also, the etymology of ‘marrano’ is disputed, but it has nothing to do with darkness or colour; here is the Spanish Wiki entry:
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marrano_(judeoconverso)#Etimolog%C3%ADa_y_apelativos_relacionados
(pig is the consensus referent)”.
So, yes, I noted it was disputed. Yes, I noted it’s only the consensus view.
Point being it has zero to do with blackness, and your stupid speculative folk etymology based on letter sequences in this case lacks validity.
I corrected your claim, and now the quibbling on your part continues.
And now you have told me that the Royal Spanish Academy is also wrong about the word and its meaning.
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As for the racism, well… duh. From our perspective, of course!
Gotta love your attempted insinuation that it’s the racism that’s the source of dispute among linguists, BTW.
(It’s not; linguists do not say ‘can’t be right because it’s racist’)
Those were most fucking certainly pre-enlightenment days.
Massacres, torture, that sort of jolly stuff was how Catholicism worked back then.
cf. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_Jews_from_Spain