Mostly older. It’s summer — the students are gone.
weylguysays
I attended the Pasadena, CA protest today, joined by roughly 2,000 others. Peaceful, no violence and with very few police officers on the scene. I only hope the country’s 1,800 similar “No Kings” protests will make a difference.
bad Jimsays
The demonstration in Laguna Beach, CA was MUCH bigger than the one in April, and though it started out mostly older, it skewed younger as it went on (there may have been some confusion as to whether it started at 11 or 12. Around 1, as promised, a quadcopter flew overhead, presumably taking pictures.
anxionnatsays
So glad that everyone was able to go! I wasn’t able to attend the one near me in Berkeley CA bc a busted knee made walking and standing impossible (stuff like that happens to us elders sometimes.) There are lots of good videos on line, to feel connected, despite my current crippled state. Thank you PZ for yours, esp your retort to “don’t go bc there were political assassinations”: NO. A thousand times no!
Loreesays
I was at the protest just outside of the Renton Boeing plant. I rode my bike up and down the protest shooting video. I had an LED sign on the front of my bike scrolling “No Kings!” in red, white, and blue letters as well as a Trans Pride flag mounted on my handle bars.
This was fairly early and it got quite a bit bigger over the next hour.
BTW, for those that don’t know, Renton is just north of PZ’s old stomping grounds in Kent, WA.
PZ, thank you for the video. The people involved were decent, thoughtful, positive and responsible. Morris looks like a nice place to live. If I and my family weren’t so old and decrepit that we couldn’t handle the winters, we would consider moving there. Even Martha and the Vandellas might approve.
psanitysays
Thank you for that, PZ. That’s a heck of a crowd for Morris! A turnout like that makes you proud (and feel safer) in your home town. In Bozeman, MT we had, I think, around 4000 fired-up people. Lots of veterans, students, retirees – all sorts of people, and tourists, and cars and semi drivers honking support. Folks crowded the sidewalks on both sides of Main St, waving signs, chanting, and cheering each other on. No speeches, no particular organization – the local Indivisible group just let it be known when and where to turn up.
Kimpatsusays
No Kings? Poor Stephen.
Mobiussays
I was at one of the Tulsa protests. There were three simultaneous protests. Why three? I don’t know. It made the protests look smaller, IMHO. But there was lots of energy. The people driving past were showing a great deal of support, waving, showing flags and posters, and of course lots of honking. There were a few showing their displeasure, waving a finger in the air, but far fewer than I would have expected in this red, red state.
In the roughly 2000 protests across the country there appear to have been at least 5 million protesters. Woot. Trump does not seem to be pleased about this. Again, woot.
And, PZ, I am happy to see you were out adding your voice to the throng.
StevoRsays
Seems the No Kings rallies were a huge success – but will they be enough to make a difference? To somehow stop Trump’s Fascism? According to one meme* :
11 million people attended No KIngs – roughly 3.5% of the total population – which is the threshold political scientists say is required to overthrow dictators.
Still got to make that happen tho’…
.* BBC article here and a quick google seems to confirm that :
I see this “3.5% of the population protesting” number being bandied around, which is apparently what it takes to topple authoritarian regimes, 3.5% of people protest, and bam, change magically happens somehow. Be that as it may, the thing is, you have to keep it up. This was a good start and not many people died, but it has to keep going. (Morris is excused)
KGsays
John Morales@13,
interesting – Chenoweth now in effect backing away from her original claim. The work of Chenoweth and Stephan, which was written largely in the service of US foreign policy (Maria Stephan actually worked for the State Department) has been subjected to considerable criticism for cherry-picking the examples selected and ignoring both the contributions violence made to their “nonviolent” successes, and the longer-term and broader context of those successes. See for example here and here – most of the latter is specifically about Extinction Rebellion and its misuse of Cenoweth’s work, but it also includes a critique of the latter itself.
Nice.
What was the age-range of the marchers?
Mostly older. It’s summer — the students are gone.
I attended the Pasadena, CA protest today, joined by roughly 2,000 others. Peaceful, no violence and with very few police officers on the scene. I only hope the country’s 1,800 similar “No Kings” protests will make a difference.
The demonstration in Laguna Beach, CA was MUCH bigger than the one in April, and though it started out mostly older, it skewed younger as it went on (there may have been some confusion as to whether it started at 11 or 12. Around 1, as promised, a quadcopter flew overhead, presumably taking pictures.
So glad that everyone was able to go! I wasn’t able to attend the one near me in Berkeley CA bc a busted knee made walking and standing impossible (stuff like that happens to us elders sometimes.) There are lots of good videos on line, to feel connected, despite my current crippled state. Thank you PZ for yours, esp your retort to “don’t go bc there were political assassinations”: NO. A thousand times no!
I was at the protest just outside of the Renton Boeing plant. I rode my bike up and down the protest shooting video. I had an LED sign on the front of my bike scrolling “No Kings!” in red, white, and blue letters as well as a Trans Pride flag mounted on my handle bars.
This was fairly early and it got quite a bit bigger over the next hour.
BTW, for those that don’t know, Renton is just north of PZ’s old stomping grounds in Kent, WA.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5m0H8yjxpYg
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nG8rPE3ORIA
PZ, thank you for the video. The people involved were decent, thoughtful, positive and responsible. Morris looks like a nice place to live. If I and my family weren’t so old and decrepit that we couldn’t handle the winters, we would consider moving there. Even Martha and the Vandellas might approve.
Thank you for that, PZ. That’s a heck of a crowd for Morris! A turnout like that makes you proud (and feel safer) in your home town. In Bozeman, MT we had, I think, around 4000 fired-up people. Lots of veterans, students, retirees – all sorts of people, and tourists, and cars and semi drivers honking support. Folks crowded the sidewalks on both sides of Main St, waving signs, chanting, and cheering each other on. No speeches, no particular organization – the local Indivisible group just let it be known when and where to turn up.
No Kings? Poor Stephen.
I was at one of the Tulsa protests. There were three simultaneous protests. Why three? I don’t know. It made the protests look smaller, IMHO. But there was lots of energy. The people driving past were showing a great deal of support, waving, showing flags and posters, and of course lots of honking. There were a few showing their displeasure, waving a finger in the air, but far fewer than I would have expected in this red, red state.
In the roughly 2000 protests across the country there appear to have been at least 5 million protesters. Woot. Trump does not seem to be pleased about this. Again, woot.
And, PZ, I am happy to see you were out adding your voice to the throng.
Seems the No Kings rallies were a huge success – but will they be enough to make a difference? To somehow stop Trump’s Fascism? According to one meme* :
Still got to make that happen tho’…
.* BBC article here and a quick google seems to confirm that :
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190513-it-only-takes-35-of-people-to-change-the-world
StevoR, ancient article.
Here: https://www.hks.harvard.edu/centers/carr/publications/questions-answers-and-some-cautionary-updates-regarding-35-rule
@ ^ John Morales : Okay, thanks.
No prob.
This is what Trump wanted:
I see this “3.5% of the population protesting” number being bandied around, which is apparently what it takes to topple authoritarian regimes, 3.5% of people protest, and bam, change magically happens somehow. Be that as it may, the thing is, you have to keep it up. This was a good start and not many people died, but it has to keep going. (Morris is excused)
John Morales@13,
interesting – Chenoweth now in effect backing away from her original claim. The work of Chenoweth and Stephan, which was written largely in the service of US foreign policy (Maria Stephan actually worked for the State Department) has been subjected to considerable criticism for cherry-picking the examples selected and ignoring both the contributions violence made to their “nonviolent” successes, and the longer-term and broader context of those successes. See for example here and here – most of the latter is specifically about Extinction Rebellion and its misuse of Cenoweth’s work, but it also includes a critique of the latter itself.