Shameful pseudo-scientists

Dan Phelps sent me a link to a terrible, awful video of the Answers in Genesis astronomers babbling about how the JWST proves the universe is young. I know, that’s just nuts, but what else can you expect from AiG?

Fortunately, Dan provides a description, so I don’t have to watch it. You don’t have to either.

Young Earth Creationist Astronomers Declare Victory for Creationism Because of the Findings of the James Webb Space Telescope

Our favorite Young Earth Creationist (YEC) astronomers have finally discussed the James Webb Space Telescope (JWST) at length. On Wednesday 9/14/22 on Facebook Dr. Danny Faulkner and Rob Webb of AiG, and Dr. Jason Lisle (formerly of AiG, now at the Biblical Science Institute) discuss the early findings of the JWST for a full excruciating hour. See: .

Faulkner and Lisle have PhDs in astronomy. Rob Webb, recently was hired by AiG as a preacher/scientist and has experience in aerospace engineering, helping design several different spacecraft (hence his AiG nickname “Rocket Rob”). Their “discussion” consists mostly of self-congratulation and sundry claims that every new finding supports Young Earth Creationism including having light from galaxies billions of light years away getting to Earth in 6,000 years (a miracle!). Their self congratulations are based on the fact that astronomers are revising their ideas about how quickly galaxies and heavy elements formed in the early universe because of new data from JWST findings. This motley crew seem to be gloating that other astronomers are, gasp!, doing science. Much of the rest is preaching/scripture quoting and, at about 23 minutes in, claiming a nefarious conspiracy of morally questionable “secular astronomers” based on their “worldview.” Most astronomers I know are rather upright citizens. The exceptions know who they are ;-).

About 32 minutes in Drs. Lisle and Faulkner joke about dead Democrats voting in Chicago, and Dr. Lisle claims “dead people vote Left.”

In Dr. Faulkner’s esteemed scientific opinion God only created life on earth, not elsewhere (~36 minutes in). However, he intones, this only includes “physical life like us; I’m not talking about spirit beings like angels and demons, and so forth.” (Is this video from the 13th century?). Then, after a discussion of exoplanets, Dr. Faulkner also tells us that God will destroy stars and galaxies when he creates a “new heavens and a new Earth” (~39 minutes). Golly wow! Thankfully, Dr. Faulkner goes on to rebuff an online questioner who asks about the Flat Earth, giving Biblical and scientific reasons the ancient Bible-based cosmology is wrong. Dr. Faulkner has even written a thick tome about the subject (for sale at the Creation Museum and Ark Park, as well as online). The three gentlemen then discuss Flat Earth Theory and the psychology of the cultish behavior behind it for a bit. They appear oblivious to the irony, that, in spite of their education, promoting a 6,000 year old universe and Earth. When they agreed that it is a “psychological issue,” I stopped the video for a few minutes out of necessity. I couldn’t decide to laugh or cry, so I took a bathroom break.

Near the end (~53 minutes) Dr. Lisle bemoans that mainstream science is ignoring his claim that he predicted the findings of the JWST. He goes on to claim that science itself wouldn’t be possible if the Bible weren’t true. Lisle then posts the inane cartoon below (my screenshot) insulting scientists and intelligent people as well as confusing evolution and cosmology/cosmogony.

The video ends with mentions of books they have for sale and the Creation Museum planetarium.

But, you ask, what about the biologists? We have to turn to the Institute for Creationist Research, which employs the most appallingly awful guy with some credentials in biology, Jeffery Tomkins. I’ve discussed Tomkins several times before, and I’m tired of. He’s incredibly dishonest fellow whose entire expertise is about distorting the scientific evidence in ways that anyone who knows the field sees is wrong, but he throws around technical terms that make lay people think he’s smart. It’s a classic pseudoscientific move.

I am spared the pain of working through Tomkins’ lies by Dan Cardinale, who explains how his arguments about junk DNA are totally bogus.


  1. says

    Yeah, right, God’s attributes are invisible and hidden therefore no one has any excuse not to see them. It’s doublethink all the way down with that lot, innit?

  2. Ted Lawry says

    Creationists did the same thing with New Horizons probe at Pluto. Initial news stories had scientists talking about how “young” Pluto looked. Creationists loved repeating that. Later papers in science journals showed it was billions of years old (yawn!) but creationists kept on repeating the same old erroneous/dishonest talking points. JWST will be the same way, once the initial excitement has passed you won’t hear of it again, except very occasionally.

  3. Ted Lawry says

    They don’t mention it, but Jason Lisle used to work for both Answers in Genesis, and Institute for Creation Research. No one says why he left, but being “let go” is a good bet. How stupid do you have to be, to get fired by creationists?

  4. Doc Bill says

    Jason Lisle, who lies to children for a “living” out of his basement operates, laughingly, the “Biblical Science Institute,” aka BS Institute.

    No, he didn’t see the irony. No how, no way!

  5. unclefrogy says

    i would say I am appalled but I am not. wave good by as they slowly sink into irrelevance rapped in their blanket of obstinate ignorance and superstition

  6. birgerjohansson says

    “JWST proves the koran right!”
    The shooting stars are weapons the ängels throw at djinn that have tried to sneak up to heaven and overhear the angel’s plans for the future.

  7. cheerfulcharlie says

    For more good information on junk DNA, try Sandwalk, Dr. Laurence Moran’s biology website. Junk DNA has been a subject there for some time. Creationism is not the only bad junk DNA misinformation purveyer. There has been quite a bit of bad science being committed about junk.DNA. Not all biologists are competent. Dr. Moran sorts through the good science and bad nonense. Occasionally the creationists latch on to the bad science for their own purposes. This is a good site for biology geeks. Warning, Sandwalk can get quite technical. Creationism is not the only sources of biology misinformation.