Is this the future liberals want?

I’m not so sure about all the details (did the dogs consent?), but yes, I want a future where a junior progressive congresswoman can make everyone lose their shit spectacularly.


  1. hemidactylus says

    And check out my recent comments on “The New Atheism gets another bashing” where I fine tooth comb Pinker. Gratuitous self-promotion on my part yes 😞

  2. says

    On “AM Joy,” Joy Reid hosted a segment about bots (mostly Russian bots, but others as well) instantly hopping onto any online controversies and ramping those controversies up to a screaming pitch. For the most part, the bots are designed to damage Democratic values, the processes (both laws and traditions) that support Democracy, and candidates or politicians from the Democratic Party.

    When Kamala Harris announced her candidacy for president, for example, bots joined the anti-Kamala horde immediately. An army of pretending-to-be-black bots accused of Harris of not being black enough, and they stoked disagreements between Cory Booker supporters and Kamala Harris supporters.

    Part of the problem is that the bot armies obscure legitimate debate about the weaknesses and strengths of candidates.

    The panel on AM Joy made the point that bots are getting harder to spot. They have refined their presentation online so that they look more like real people.

    Bot armies supporting rightwing initiatives have been particularly active in portraying AOC as evil incarnate. They have found a new target. It almost doesn’t matter who the target is. It used to be Hillary Clinton, but they are slowly moving away from that and toward Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez. Disinformation campaigns continue to focus on Nancy Pelosi and Elizabeth Warren. I expect all high profile female politicians from the center or left to be blasted with bot-augmented disinformation campaigns. I expect rightwing politicians and media outlets to jump on those bandwagons. Disinformation will be repeated on Fox News, by Republican politicians, by Rush Limbaugh, by Alex Jones, by Trump, by Breitbart, etc.

    We saw U.S. intelligence chiefs raise the alarm about cyber attacks or social media disinformation campaigns in testimony before a Senate panel last Tuesday.

    […] FBI Director Christopher A. Wray and other top officials joined Coats in a discussion that covered a wide array of national security challenges, including cyber attacks that will aim to disrupt the 2020 presidential election and the continued threat posed by the Islamic State and other terrorist groups. […]

    Officials also warned, as they did last year, about Russia’s intention to interfere with the U.S. political system via “information warfare” waged largely on social media, which stokes social and political tensions to divide Americans. Other countries are likely to employ those tactics, as well, Coats said.

    “We expect our adversaries and strategic competitors to refine their capabilities and add new tactics as they learn from each other’s experiences, suggesting the threat landscape could look very different in 2020 and future elections,” the intelligence director said in his written statement.

    Trump continues to equivocate on whether Russia interfered in the 2016 election on his behalf, contradicting the unanimous assessment of all the top intelligence officials currently serving.

    At last year’s threats hearing, leaders focused much of their remarks on Russia, unanimously concluding that the country was trying to interfere in the 2018 midterm elections by sowing discord and confusion via social media, as it had two years earlier in the U.S. presidential race. […]

    Washington Post link

  3. rq says

    And that’s just Day 2! Can’t wait to see what’s on for Day 3 – reduced emissions? Wind farms in every backyard? Obligatory cat adoptions? Want to know!

  4. says

    I can does meme?

    Commissar-General McConnell’s gerrymandering brigades have secured the capitol region, stamping out all resistance. The streets run red with the debt of small business owners as big-box-retail-friendly ordinances are passed and the sun finally sets on the era of the American Mom & Pop Store. A pile of dead children stands outside the entrance of every school, guarded by a trained Fox News attack journalist threatening anyone approaching that “now is not the time” to “politicize the tragedy”. More tax cuts for the wealthy are passed.

    “Please,” begs Joe Q. America, humble miltary-industrial-complex contractor from Heartlandtown, Kansas with 2.3 beautiful white children as his town is flooded with legal opiates, “no more ‘thoughts and prayers’.”

    “We will make no apologies for the terror,” Commissar-General McConnell answers, a cold fury in his voice. As the children are gunned down by a lone wolf that no-one could have possibly foreseen, he scuttles away to an important NRA prayer breakfast, their names already forgotten. Time is money.

    It is the same old story.

    Except mine is true. ☹️

  5. flange says

    I’m ignorant as to where “Day 2” came from. But it is satire, pretty damn good satire, isn’t it? Or am I way behind the times? —Don’t answer that.

  6. hemidactylus says

    I am so tempted to adapt the graphic of AOC with demon possessed crazy face in front of a Marxist flag as a rear windshield sunscreen. It would scare the shit out of Trumpists (contra-MAGA) and less bonkers Repugs and some DINOs. But I would display it ironically because I don’t think it’s a fair representation of her values. I lean leftward of center, but think aspects of her Democratic Socialism to be quite appealing. We need to hike taxes on the upper echelons and we need to go much further than Obama’s weak tea ACA. We should emulate the more progressive European states. Does that make me a Commie?

    As for my confusingly sarcastic nanny tangent, coercively banning large size sodas was dumb on Bloomberg’s part, but seat belts and tobacco taxes and public smoking regulations are good. I’m generally for default effect nudging and gov’t sponsored public information campaigns instead of coercion, though ironically corporate Merck did well with those parent guilting HPV ads. And I’m rabidly pro-vax which is coercive.

  7. Akira MacKenzie says

    Conservatives use the word “Communist” the same way the stereotypical hippie or the modern teenager uses the word “Fascist.” They don’t like being told what to do with their money, guns, or religion no matter how many people get hurt. Therefore anyone who comes along to challenge their notion of “freedom” MUST br a tyrant who belongs to the opposite side of the political spectrum.

  8. rietpluim says

    Yeah, the meme is funny, but it basically counterparts the shit that (among others) people of color have to go through every day, and there is nothing funny about that.

  9. says

    Oh no! The flag of Soviet Union for millions of people in this side of the Earth is equal to the nazi flag. Too many mass murders and deportations have been committed under these flags.

  10. says

    “liberal” has come to mean “wants these things” to some people, so, to them, the label means that’s what liberals want. It’s a good example of how use of labeling in politics makes us all less capable of communicating.

  11. unclefrogy says

    the people who post that kind of stuff are really weird and out of touch with reality, as far as I know no one is advocating taking other peoples rights away or making them do things they do not want to do, except of course preventing people from harming other people no one is advocating bestiality certainly not forcing anyone to engage in that activity. There is a strong movement which seems to be growing for a more equatable taxation system . That comment about health care is just bizarre. I thought conservatives were against the government having anything to do with health care. As far as putting small businesses out of business I thought that was big business that did that.
    that stuff is to hysterical and contradictory to even be satire to say it is sophomoric would be a compliment.
    uncle frogy

  12. Hatchetfish says

    Taken at face value the source page, Marxist Memes, seems to be believing communists. In context this is more like all the variations on “Taco trucks on every corner? Sign me up!”

    Flipping though the account they see “liberal” as an insult from the other side: they prefer “leftist” when self identifying, and equate “liberal” with “establishment democrat” with “sheeple”, more or less.

    Interesting little rabbit hole. I still can’t quite decide if it’s russian trolls stoking a split on the left, or actual american communists/socialists doing pretty much the same. I lean toward the first because there are incendiary but (I think) fabricated AOC quotes peppered in that would be outrage catnip on the right, but don’t entirely make sense in context.

  13. says

    @#3, Lynna, OM

    I must be hanging out in the wrong places. I’ve seen plenty of complaints about Kamala Harris, but not a single one about her not being “black enough” — even the ones which are trivial are uniformly based on her history of actions and positions, not about her skin color. Is this a Facebook/Twitter thing?

  14. wajim says

    Where precisely do I sign up for the AOC Brigade? And do I need to tweet (cause I don’t tweet)?

  15. Curious Digressions says

    If you want to find out how well the opposition understands your your position, see how they characterize the logical extreme of your stance.

    OP doesn’t “get” leftists very well at all. Maybe they don’t “get” logic very well.