It’s like watching dominoes fall in slow motion

It’s agonizing. You can look ahead and see the whole chain that will eventually topple, but right now you’re stuck just watching them fall o n e  b y  o n e. It’s like how you can look back on Nixon now and think Watergate break-in, boom, Nixon resigns, when it was actually months and agonizing months of boring hearings disrupting my cartoon viewing habits.

So now Roger Stone has been arrested, and the indictment forges a link to Steve Bannon. Now the waiting begins for the next domino to fall.

Maybe Stone will squeal like a pig and accelerate the rate of the whole process. One can hope.


  1. rietpluim says

    In fact I quite enjoy the slow pace. Call it schadenfreude, but I’d like to picture Trump watching his enemies closing in slowly, while he is becoming more anxious every day.

  2. weylguy says

    Eventually the Head Pig will fall, but we’ll still have Pence, voter suppression and gerrymandering. To paraphrase a famous story attributed to Bertrand Russell and others, it’s pigs all the way down.

  3. robro says

    And where there’s Bannon, could the Mercers be far behind? Robert has “retired” and gone into seclusion.

    As for Pence, perhaps the “Gen. Flynn lied to me” defense will start to crack.

  4. What a Maroon, living up to the 'nym says


    Clearly you’re not a government worker, or contractor, or employee/owner of a business that depends on them, or a person who depends on US government programs for basic needs, or even someone who knows such people.

    As horrible as Pence would be, he probably wouldn’t have shut down the government, especially over something as obviously stupid as the wall.

    One way or another Trump needs to be gone, the sooner the better.

  5. says

    The reason I don’t like the slow pace of the dominoes slowing falling is that it gives Trump, Stephen Miller, and various ne’er-do-well Trump lackeys time to do more harm.

    Today we are seeing delays at two major airports, including LaGuardia in NY, thanks to air traffic controller staffing issues. Trump’s shutdown is having more bad effects, some of them dangerous, than is being acknowledged.

    About the slow pace though, I do appreciate that Mueller and his team are methodical and thorough.

  6. brucegee1962 says

    Pence is probably better at hiding his malice and batshit crazy, but that’s what makes him dangerous.
    We’ve got to get rid of all the Republicans, root and branch, and start over with a better conservative opposition party. The fastest way to do that is to leave the lunatic in charge until he can fully wreck the boat, not to let somebody else take charge who would have a better chance of winning an election.
    Yes, this will cause much suffering in the short run — but not as much as the outright ruination that could be caused by another four years of Repub administration.

  7. says

    Not only has Pence revealed himself in the past to be a dangerously loony right-wing religious nut of the sort who I’m hesitant to see near the nuclear football, but even if he decides not to start World War III don’t forget what a terrible governor he was in Indiana. I have relatives living there, and they say the Indiana Republican Party was getting ready to primary him because he was such a failure and an embarrassment. He not only weakened his party in Indiana — and I remind you that Indiana is a [i]very[/i] red state, at one time a few decades back over 75% of adult males were members of the KKK — but he cost the state a lot of money as well through his shenanigans. If he becomes president, it won’t be an improvement in terms of policy although at least he probably won’t be on Twitter at 1 AM.

  8. says

    The devil you know and the other devil you know. What a choice. My ideal scenario is to impeach Trump but not convict him. Tie him up with investigations and as many lawsuits as he has coming. Don’t let Pence become Prez, because he’s shown what he is in Indiana, and I don’t want him to have that kind of responsibility. Rather, take him down either before Trump or at the same time (I’d prefer the latter, so Trump can’t fill the vacancy with McConnell or one of the Koch boys).

    This shows that I have a lot of faith in Mueller. I’m not really happy about relying upon faith, but that seems to be where we are just now.

  9. says

    Cross posted from the Political Madness All the Time thread:

    From Wonkette’s coverage:

    […] Now before we get to laughing at Roger Stone, Jerome Corsi, and Randy Credico for being the dumbest bunch of wannabe crimers that ever did conspire to hack an election, let’s put the big new thing up here first. Roger Stone had multiple, ongoing contacts with officials from the Trump campaign throughout the entirety of 2016. Here’s how Robert Mueller described them in the indictment:

    a. On multiple occasions, STONE told senior Trump Campaign officials about materials possessed by Organization 1 and the timing of future releases.

    b. On or about October 3, 2016, STONE wrote to a supporter involved with the Trump Campaign, “Spoke to my friend in London last night. The payload is still coming.”

    c. On or about October 4, 2016, STONE told a high-ranking Trump Campaign official that the head of Organization 1 had a “[s]erious security concern” but would release “a load every week going forward.”

    Moreover, someone in the campaign — someone important –was specifically “directed” to coordinate with Stone regarding the subject and timing of future Wikileaks releases of information stolen from the DNC and Hillary Clinton’s campaign manager John Podesta.

    After the July 22, 2016 release of stolen DNC emails by Organization 1, a senior Trump Campaign official was directed to contact STONE about any additional releases and what other damaging information Organization 1 had regarding the Clinton Campaign.

    NO COLLUSION! Or maybe … COLLUSION! Yeah, probably that one.

    The Washington Post reports that the “senior Trump Campaign official” was campaign manager Steve Bannon. It’s always the ones you most suspect, right? But DIRECTED BY WHOM????? Would that be “Individual 1” directing Old Three Shirts to coordinate Wikileaks dumps of Russian-hacked DNC emails through Roger Stone? Because even though Stone officially left the campaign in 2015, he and Donald Trump spent the entirety of 2016 naughty talking to each other all night on the phone. […]

    Much more info and telling details have been posted on that thread. Scroll up.

  10. lesherb says

    Yes! The Watergate hearing disrupted my preferred TV watching, too!
    Now, I watch the current president & associates and realize I’m still watching cartoon 45 years later.

  11. rietpluim says

    What a Maroon and Lynna To be fair I couldn’t tell what would do the most damage. As others have pointed out, the vice president is no better. The best thing is the entire gang kicked out of Washington and then roasted slowly above the fire, but that is not a very realistic scenario.

  12. garnetstar says

    “Maybe” Stone will squeal? He’ll roll over faster than anyone, he’ll be begging to tell them more than they want to know.

    A rapper and former criminal called 50-Cent (I hadn’t heard of him before this interview) astutely predicted than all these people would flip, since they were basically middle-class white people, and weren’t experienced in having really tough things happen to them. That, none of them being from the hood, none of them would be able to take the pressure.

    Also, that, even on the street, things change when federal time is involved, since one must do 85% of one’s sentence before being up for parole. And that, unless people were in danger of actually being killed, or their families killed, everyone cooperates with prosecutors, as they really have no other good choice.

    So, note to self: when committing federal crimes, don’t have accomplices.

  13. Akira MacKenzie says

    For me, New Atheism was never about Islam, but 1) the growth of Christian Theocracy under Dubbya, and 2) the idea that atheists ought to stand up, say enough is enough and work to destroy the barbarism that is theism (yes, even the feel-good liberal versions). With Trump’s ascension to the purple, I had hoped that public, fuck-all-religionists, public atheism would rebound, but it seems that it’s too far gone for that.

  14. says

    I rather expect that on January 20, 2021, the retiring president will have a last name starting with P — either Pence or Pelosi. In the former case, all it takes it Trump’s resignation. In the latter case, it requires that Pence turn out to be ensnared in the high jinks pervading this White House, which is possible but not certain. But wouldn’t Trump get to appoint Pence’s replacement? Yes, he could appoint, but his appointee could not take office without majority votes in both houses of Congress. Does anyone think the Democratic House of Representatives would give Trump his choice of veep? That would put Pelosi on deck, to be sworn in as president if Trump gets pushed out. Of course, I did say “retiring” president, so it would be necessary for an incumbent President Pence to be rejected at the polls (undoubtedly a slavish GOP would nominate their accidental president). If it were President Pelosi, I would expect her to bow out after serving as a dynamic caretaker (rather than campaigning for election). Here ends my wild speculation.

  15. says

    I have my doubts about Stone rolling over. He has almost certainly been promised a pardon. Whether that promise will be kept remains to be seen, but the promise has been made.

  16. Raucous Indignation says

    Stone is a life long invenerate liar. He is of no use to the Special Council as a witness and will not be asked to flip.