Ho-hum, Comma again

I leave town for a few days, and crackpots start dunning the university’s lawyers for petty information. Comma has been at it again. This email went to the university board of regents and general counsel.

Demand For Administrative Investigation Into Willful Refusal To Comply With MGDPA Over PZ Meyers Data, Fraudulent Bills, And Informed Consent Form Of Nemmers’ Subject Data

David J. McMillan, Chair U of M Board of Regents (612) 625-6300 & Douglas R. Peterson, U of M General Counsel (612) 624-7569:

Chapter 13 data request – Please email/file share me the following readily available, free, electronic, public data in its original searchable pdf format pursuant to 13.03 Subd 3(e):

1. I am demanding an administrative investigation into the University of Minnesota’s willful refusal to comply with my Chapter 13 data requests. I’ve attached the UM’s fraudulent bills (UM_Fraudulent_Bills.pdf) for readily available readily available, free, electronic, public data. I have reason to suspect the motive is to prevent your Class of 1985 UMM graduate from receiving damning facts about the corrupt UM and the corrupt UMM and their corrupt personnel. The fraudulent bill is for a tape of the University of Minnesota-Morris police during interviews in regard to the vandalism and the theft Northstar newspapers. First of all, I never requested an audio tape but the original DSS file. I have reason to suspect that the audio files have been tampered with prior to being placed onto the audio tape. Second, I’ve attached a March 22, 2011 bill for the UMM’s contract with Stevens County Sheriff for Law Enforcement Technology Group Computer Aided Dispatch and Electronic Records Management software which allows for the electronic transfer of DSS files but not audio cassettes. Second, the data that I received was not in the required searchablable format but had been maliciously converted to scanned pdf format. Third, I’ve included to BCA’s software deployment report that indicates that your corrupt UMM Police have been electronically transmitting DSS audio files since 2011.

[This is a bone he won’t drop: I was accused of stealing newspapers, with no evidence. The police asked me if I’d done it, I said no. That’s as far as it can go.]

2. I’m also making a data request for all my subject data from 06-24-2014 until today’s date. See attached signed informed consent form.

3. I’ve attached my 03-12-17 Chapter 13 data request entitled: “Chapter 13 data request – personnel data – grants for The Aurora Center.” This data is currently being illegally withheld from your Class of 1985 UMM graduate. https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/13.09

[I have no idea what any of that is about.]

4. Chapter 13.43 Personnel Data https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/13.43 for Paul Myers Associate Professor Ph.D., University of Oregon B.S., University of Washington, Seattle Expertise Developmental Biology Neurobiology Email: myersp@morris.umn.edu Phone: +1 3205896343 Campus Location: Science 2390 https://academics.morris.umn.edu/paul-myers. Please email me University of Minnesota, Morris Associate Professor Paul “Logical Fallacy” Myers’ (Myers is an inciter Of Violence & Freethoughtblogs CEO, isn’t he?) current employment contract, actual gross salary for year 2017-2018; Educational Background, Professional Certifications, Teaching Areas, Health Care Interests, Research Interests, Current Projects, Publications, Awards, Curriculum Vitae, and work-related continuing education for the years 2008-2018. Why am I asking for that data? I want to know if PZ “Logical Fallacy” Myers received a degree to diagnose, don’t I? Why? Didn’t you know that PZ “diagnosed” me as a ‘kook,’ ‘local loon,’ ‘wacky,’ and last but not least a ‘demented Sovereign Citizen’? Has PZ deluded himself into thinking that he’s a licensed doctor or did he just pull a fake sheep-skin out of a box of Cracker Jacks? Hmm? Inquiring minds want to know, don’t they?

[Comma is such a nosy fellow. He can write to the University of Washington and the University of Oregon if he wants confirmation of my degrees…but, you know, when I was hired here the university required that I give them verifiable evidence of my degrees. I think they’re confident my degree didn’t come out of a box of Cracker Jacks.]

5. Since the statute of limitations has run out on my Chapter 13 data request for the 13.82 Subd. 7. Criminal investigative data for the theft and vandalism of the UMM Northstar’s newspaper I am making a brand-spanking new request. https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/13.82 Email me the incident reports in searchable pdf format, handwriting samples, audio files in original DSS format and corresponding transcripts, Digital images of crimes scene and vandalized newspapers, and the signed letter declining prosecution.

[That’s nice.]

Terry Dean, Nemmers (320) 283-5713

P.S. Hey did you know that I helped cost PZ’s corrupt buddy Steven County Attorney/Morris City Attorney Aaron Jordan not one but two judge jobs? Did you know that the Committee for Judicial Selection doesn’t like to receive clear, precise and unquestionable evidence of their candidates willfully refusing to comply with the Minnesota Government Data Practices Act?

[I never heard of Aaron Jordan.]

P.S.S. You want to listen to my audio recorded conversations with your corrupt UM cops and your corrupt UMM cops?


In case you’re curious about how the general counsel replied, it was with a terse suggestion that he visit the Data Request Center and fill out a form…which anyone can do, you know.

I’m getting tired of dealing with loons. I’m sure they are, too.


  1. anthrosciguy says

    I’m a bit of a fan of odd capitalization and I loved his “inciter Of Violence”. No capitalization “for inciter” but “of” gets the treatment?

  2. xmp999 says

    Why is he so obsessed with an old case of missing newspapers??? He doesn’t seem to have any stake in the matter, and even the Northstar’s staff didn’t do much other than file the initial report

  3. pita says

    As someone who works in a corporate legal department, I’m sure that email brought a smile to the face of every attorney in your General Counsel’s office, so at least there’s that value. Pretty sure they’re going to be quoting this among themselves for the next several months.

  4. gijoel says

    I’m sorry but neither Paul “Logical Fallacy” Myers’ or PZ “Logical Fallacy” Myers works at UM. Perhaps you’re thinking of another person, or you’ve misspelt the name.

  5. Pierce R. Butler says

    Is this really Comma?

    Since when does Comma write three paragraphs in a row without a single question mark?

  6. John Small Berries says

    Since when does Comma write three paragraphs in a row without a single question mark?

    I’m guessing the last round of mockery about his idiosyncratic writing style stung so much he vowed not to do it this time, and managed to make it halfway through #4 before his resolve broke and he lapsed back into it.

  7. Pierce R. Butler says

    Aha! Now we know Aaron Jordan has heard of [Punk Mark with a Tail], as of at least four years ago:

    Morris City Manager Blaine Hill is conspiring with Morris City Attorney/Stevens Co. Attorney Aaron Jordan to waste my valuable time, insult my intelligence and waste valuable government resources in an attempt to illegally withhold public data, isn’t he?

  8. says

    I still want to know what a Nemmers is. When you see that construction, the thing after the comma is usually a title or descriptor of some sort. Bruce Lee, martial arts master. Magnum, PI. But how is a title for one person pluralized? Is he admitting he’s really four nemmers in a trenchcoat? The question then remains. What is a nemmer?

  9. whheydt says

    Re: Great American Satan @ #11…
    Well…. There is Nemmers Prize in Mathematics given out every two years. The rest of Comma’s name doesn’t appear on the list on Wikipedia, though, so if he’s claiming that he received it, he’s lying. On the other hand, the prize is named after one Frederic Esser Nemmers. There is also an Erwin Plein Nemmers Prize in Economics. Apparently, the two Nemmers were brothers. Make one one will of that.

  10. unclefrogy says

    I just realized I was mispronouncing his nom de plume.
    I was thinking it was coma, a natural mistake given the content
    uncle frogy

  11. jack16 says

    PZ, (Not relevant to above post.)
    Subject MUSIC:
    Have you seen “The Truth Why Modern Music Is Awful”? Utube “Thoughty2”.
    Note: All my info comes “on line” or streaming Roku.

    If you’ve seen it whats to do? Try listening with an adjustable decompresser? Does anyone give good advice on music quality?


  12. notruescott says

    I guess as a biologist, you are qualified to diagnose him as a loon.

    Aren’t you?

  13. indianajones says

    You guys and PZ are all completely wrong! I for one am now completely turned around on this issue. ALL HAIL THE PUNCTUATION GUY!!!

  14. blf says

    the general counsel replied […] with a terse suggestion that he visit the Data Request Center and fill out a form

    Note quite an Arkell v Pressdram then, albeit I presume that’s what the general counsel wanted to write…

  15. says

    No worry ! It concerns someone named “PZ Meyers”.
    Can’t be a mistake. Of course it can’t ! How could someone who insists on a comma make such a mistake?

  16. Matrim says

    I wonder if he actually thinks he’s going to find something, or if he’s just trying to be a big enough pain in the ass that it hopefully (in his view) spills on to you?

  17. says

    The truly sad thing about this is, this wacko can keep paying a lawyer to screw around, and file things against you and the university, which is just flat out nonsense, but if I had a problem (and actual one) with a companies product, I would be legally bound to find a few hundred other people that had the same problem, just to file against them, otherwise my lawsuit would be deemed, automatically, to be “frivolous”.

  18. zetopan says

    For anyone who hasn’t yet see a photo of Comma manchild and some back history, some details are located here:

    It seems that Comma manchild really doesn’t like the police and tries harassing them to little effect. He was caught driving a car with an expired license plate with an expired driver’s license that was not really legal since the driver’s photo only showed an empty chair.

  19. blf says

    zetopan@24, Ah, that explains the “Nemmers” mystery. Apparently, and as per poopyhead (I get email (Jan-2015)), the kook’s name is Terry Dean Nemmers. They are also a sovereign citizen nutter, and so use the magic comma, hence Terry Dean, Nemmers.† (This may also explain the previously-noted tendency to pretend all sentences are questions.) There’s also links to the eejit’s videos, and more, at that link (some of those links are, I presume, now defunct) — interesting find !

      † From that old poopyhead post, “I’ll refer to him as Comma from now on”.