Heroic hero votes bravely to cut health care to citizens

It was close — Pence had to break the tie — but the Senate voted to push on with Trumpcare. There were only two nay votes from the Republicans, and none of them were McCain.

His legacy is settled. Tag him with an “H” word — not Hero, but Hack.


  1. doubtthat says

    Would just like to fill out the scene a bit:

    John McCain, Maverick and American hero, crawled out of his hospital bed to deny the very medical care he was receiving to around 15 million Americans. By the time he arrived, all but two Republican Senators had voted. Ron Johnson cast his as McCain entered to a standing ovation, when he proudly voted yes.

    I don’t even know what to say. The bill isn’t done, a lot of hurdles, but never doubt that Republicans will fall in line, no matter how awful the subject.

  2. says

    Cross posted from the Political Madness All the Time thread.

    With the wound on his head still clearly visible, John McCain returned to the Senate today. Here are comments regarding his speech from Matt Shuham:

    […] Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) struck a harshly dissonant chord on Tuesday, delivering a charged speech calling for bipartisan cooperation after casting his vote to continue debate on the repeal of Obamacare. […]

    If McCain had not made the trip to Washington, D.C. two weeks after a surgery to remove a blood clot above his left eye — and after the discovery of an aggressive form of brain cancer — the effort to repeal the Affordable Care Act and make deep cuts to Medicaid would very likely not have proceeded.

    Senate deliberations, McCain said, can be “sincere and principled.” But lately, he said, “they are more partisan, more tribal, more of the time than at any time that I can remember.”

    “Let’s return to regular order,” he said, though the motion he had just voted to support was described by several congressional reporters as the most unusual, and the most shrouded in secrecy, they had seen in a health care bill in their careers. […]

    “We’ve been spinning our wheels on too many important issues because we keep trying to find a way to win without help from across the aisle,” he said.

    McCain said he could not support the Obamacare repeal effort “as it is today,” though it’s not clear what version he, or Republican leadership, has prioritized, nor which is most likely to pass the Senate if any.

    He said of the process by which Republican leaders had pursued the repeal effort — “asking us to swallow our doubts and force it past a unified opposition” — “I don’t think that’s going to work in the end, and probably shouldn’t.”

    “Let’s see if we can pass something that will be imperfect, full of compromises and not very pleasing to implacable partisans on either side but that might provide workable solutions for problems that Americans are struggling with today,” he said toward the end of his remarks. “What have we to lose by trying to work together to find those solutions? We’re not getting done much apart. I don’t think any of us feels very proud of our incapacity.”


    McCain sounded good, but he voted incorrectly. (As SC later pointed out, McCain said one thing and then did another. “McCain’s vote and his grandstanding were completely at odds, and his vote means weeks or months of terror for people who don’t know whether they or their families will continue to have health care, and possibly far worse. Given the context, his star turn today looks selfish, callous, and even cruel.”)

    Read more: https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2017/05/05/discuss-political-madness-all-the-time-2/#ixzz4nsWCm7pG

    Read more: https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2017/05/05/discuss-political-madness-all-the-time-2/#ixzz4nsVu4yE9

  3. slithey tove (twas brillig (stevem)) says

    Pathologic Hypocrisy, as distinguished from Casual Hypocrisy

  4. martin50 says

    “McCain said one thing and then did another.”
    I wish he hadn’t done this.

  5. says


    “What have we to lose by trying to work together to find those solutions? We’re not getting done much apart. I don’t think any of us feels very proud of our incapacity.”

    On the contrary, I think Chris Murphy and the others who’ve called for bipartisan solutions and who went outside and talked to the people gathered (Warren had some jerk who said he worked at the White House shouting “Pocahontas” at her) feel plenty proud, as they should. Don’t project your own and your party’s political and moral bankruptcy onto them. It’s you who should be ashamed.

  6. brett says

    McCain’s always been a mostly party-line Republican Senator. The only deviation from the party-line for him was on campaign finance reform (in part because he got zinged by the Charles Keating scandal) and some early 2000s stuff out of resentment for Bush Jr.

    But a whole generation of centrist Washington media establishment types love him because he would come on their shows regularly, chat it up, and generally give them the whole I’m Not Like Those Other Republicans (which is what they desperately want – they need Republican politicians to wink in their direction when talking conservative stuff).

  7. Siobhan says

    “Senator crawls out of hospital bed to deny healthcare that just saved his life to millions of Americans.”

    I hope the millions of Americans pay him in kind.

  8. The Other Lance says

    McCain lies like a dog in his ‘courageous’ speech following the vote to proceed to debate.
    The Obama administration and congressional Democrats shouldn’t have forced through Congress without any opposition support a social and economic change as massive as Obamacare. And we shouldn’t do the same with ours.Full text of McCain’s speech

    That is not how I remember things going down.

    He’s a hack, with a capital ‘H’ stitched to his suit.

  9. zibble says

    @10 SC
    Everyone should be talking about this! But I hadn’t heard a single word about it. Not even from members of her own party, who were happy to send good will to that desiccated evil bastard whose last act on Earth was to drag thousands of innocents into the grave with him.

  10. gijoel says

    He’s a hack, with a capital ‘H’ stitched to his suit.

    He was adamantly against torture till he ran for president.

  11. unclefrogy says

    McCain’s always been a mostly party-line Republican Senator.

    being a team player is all well and good but he is just taking it in the shorts again for a bunch who have never really been in his side and certainly not on the side of the majority of the people.
    uncle frogy

  12. rpjohnston says

    I’m gonna say it: McCain is a little shit.
    We’re always told to venerate him as an American hero because of his soldiering service but you know what? That’s a load of crap.
    As a Senator all that he’s ever done is run a propaganda campaign of himself as a “maverick” and playing up his service to dodge accountability as he lazily votes however the boots he licks tell him to. Which means that all he’s ever done as a an elected representative is be another god damn Republican traitor to his country.
    And the people who get their rocks in a twist over such “disrespect to a soldier” and how dare I criticized someone who got captured and tortured? They’e the one who strip VA benefits – the ones that would have kept a soldier who didn’t become a rich boot-licking Senator alive. They’re the ones who got McCain tortured in capitalist wars, who would have let McCain die in the street as a “welfare moocher” if he didn’t become their bootlicker. The people who will condemn me for this are the ones who don’t actually give a fuck about the troops, they just hold the soldiers in front of them as political human shields, and those people can suck my fat hairy cock.
    Trump likes soldiers that don’t get captured, and ya’ll are ok with that. So I like soldiers that don’t come home and throw their service in the dirt to fuck up the country they got shot to defend.
    Disappointing end to McCain’s life. So much potential for heroism and bravery that he squandered to be his masters’ little shit.

  13. handsomemrtoad says

    The way to treat your illness, John McCain,
    Is simple: we should amputate your brain.
    No brain, no pain, dear John McCain.

  14. Saganite, a haunter of demons says

    He’s going down fighting.
    Against the citizens of America.

  15. says

    McCain as hero? I think not, and offer two words/names in rebuttal: Sarah Palin. Nothing at all heroic or even patriotic in his choice of running mate. He didn’t give a fuck about the governance of or country then and, by voting to proceed to an unseen bill on Tuesday, it’s clear that he doesn’t give a fuck now, either.

  16. Reginald Selkirk says

    This entire thread seems to be based on an incorrect understanding. McCain’s vote was to bring the Republican health care bill to the floor of the Senate for debate. It was not a vote to pass the bill.
    Health Care Vote: Senate Rejects Repeal Without Replace
    McCain was one of those voting against “Repeal without Replace”

    But a more comprehensive measure that would have repealed major parts of the law with a ready replacement also came up short on Tuesday night.

    They don’t mention how McCain voted on that, but it failed with only 43 ‘yes’ votes, whereas RwR had 45 ‘yes’ votes.

  17. monad says

    @21: That was my understanding, yeah. But in what way does voting to debate the hidden health care bill not count as trying to push on with Trumpcare, permitting all the problems he ostensibly spoke against, and supporting the removal of health care from millions of people? After all, it’s well understood you’re only supposed to call to debate things you think are worthy of consideration — if you were supposed to debate everything no matter how horrible, there wouldn’t be a vote.

  18. David Marjanović says

    In the depth of night, an hour before Trumprise, McCain turned around and saved Obamacare. “Such is life in Washington today, where up is down, black is white, losing is winning, and covfefe is covfefe.”