A fish, a rabbit — same thing, to a creationist


JBS Haldane is said to have responded to a question about how evolution could be disproved by saying, “A Precambrian rabbit”. What was meant by this, of course, is any substantial discovery that greatly disrupted the evidence for the chronological pattern of descent observed in Earth’s life. That pattern of descent is one of the central lines of evidence for evolution, so creationists would dearly love to find something that wrecked it — this is why they send expeditions to Africa to find a living dinosaur, Mok’ele-mbembe, or more conveniently, to Canada in search of a plesiosaur, Manipogo.

The Discovery Institute has it easy. They don’t mount expeditions, they just sit around, read scientific papers, and misinterpret them. Their latest abuse is to claim to have discovered the equivalent of a Precambrian rabbit.

A vertebrate swimming fish with camera eyes, blood vessels, digestive system, muscular swimming, and gills in the Lower Cambrian: for Darwinists, it should hardly be more surprising to find than a Precambrian rabbit.

Only it’s not in the Precambrian, it’s Cambrian. And it’s not a mammal, it’s a very primitive fish, unlike anything extant. Is anyone surprised to find ancient fish-like creatures in the Cambrian? Anyone who has been paying the slightest attention to publications about the fossils of the Burgess Shale or the Chengjian fauna in the last century?

Here’s a reconstruction of the animal that Conway Morris and Caron analyzed in a recent issue of Nature. It’s called Metaspriggina.

metaspriggina

Just for comparison, here’s Pikaia, a familiar chordate (although it’s classification is somewhat controversial) from the Cambrian. The fossil was first described in 1911.

pikaia

Here’s another Cambrian beast, Haikouichthys, described in 2002.

Haikouichthys

Here is a rabbit.

rabbit

One of these things is not like the others. Which one would surprise you, boys and girls, if it were found swimming in the shallow, silty seas beneath the relatively hypoxic skies of planet Earth, 500 million years ago? Which ones look similar, as if they are related, yet don’t look like any modern organisms?

If you can answer those two questions, you’re smarter than a creationist. There is no prize, I’m afraid that’s a rather low bar to hurdle.

What also surprises is how much the Discovery Institute press release mangles the story. For instance, they want to claim that it is more advanced than modern forms.

All these traits show that Metaspriggina was not a primitive chordate intermediate to lampreys or other extinct Cambrian swimmers, but was in fact more “derived” (advanced) in some respects than some of the alleged descendants.

They then quote a section of an article that explains that lampreys have derived structures — that their branchial anatomy is extensively specialized. What Conway Morris and Caron actually say in the paper is the opposite — that Metaspriggina had primitive or ancestral branchial structures, that they possessed two-part bars in their branchial arches, which was the ancestral condition.

A striking feature is the branchial area with an array of bipartite bars. Apart from the anterior-most bar, which appears to be slightly thicker, each is associated with externally located gills, possibly housed in pouches. Phylogenetic analysis places Metaspriggina as a basal vertebrate, apparently close to the Chengjiang taxa Haikouichthys and Myllokunmingia, demonstrating also that this primitive group of fish was cosmopolitan during Lower–Middle Cambrian times (Series 2–3). However, the arrangement of the branchial region in Metaspriggina has wider implications for reconstructing the morphology of the primitive vetebrate. Each bipartite bar is identified as being respectively equivalent to an epibranchial and ceratobranchial. This configuration suggests that a bipartite arrangement is primitive and reinforces the view that the branchial basket of lampreys is probably derived.

Notice that Conway Morris and Caron have identified Metaspriggina as a “basal vertebrate”, and that they note it’s affinities to other Cambrian forms. This is not a fish out of water; there is no evolution defying anachronism here.

The creationists even comment on the cladogram included in the paper, rather obliviously. Do they even realize that this diagram places Metaspriggina in an evolutionary context, and that it is clearly an intermediate form, more advanced than Pikaia, comparable to its rough contemporary Haikouichthys, and less derived than lampreys?

Cladogram with backbone constraint for cyclostome monophyly, and using rescaled consistency indices, showing the position of Metaspriggina as part of basal stem-group soft-bodied vertebrates. The origin and potential loss of key vertebrate structures is indicated.

Cladogram with backbone constraint for cyclostome monophyly, and using rescaled consistency indices, showing the position of Metaspriggina as part of basal stem-group soft-bodied vertebrates. The origin and potential loss of key vertebrate structures is indicated.

Seriously, what part of “basal stem-group soft-bodied vertebrate” did they fail to comprehend? Metaspriggina is an unsurprising resident of the Cambrian era…and no rabbit at all.


Morris SC, Caron JB2 (2014) A primitive fish from the Cambrian of North America. Nature 512(7515):419-22.

Comments

  1. says

    Scientists found a fossil in precisely the right place we’d expect to find said fossil and it describes a form of life consistent with other fossils in that period.

    Checkmate, evolutionists!

  2. Andy Groves says

    What is it with creationists and branchial arches? I realize they are not the easiest structures to understand anatomically, but they seem to bollix them up every time they talk about them……..

  3. omnicrom says

    But is it cute, just like the rabbit!!
    QED!!

    Your logic holds weight, that’s a weirdly adorable protofish.

  4. Owlmirror says

    But a rabbit is a (radically derived sarcopterygan) fish!

    The problem is that they think that a (primitive) fish is a rabbit.

  5. says

    Yeah, the branchial thing kills me. It’s not that hard. Look at the cladogram: gill pouches and bipartite branchial structures evolved sometime prior to Metaspriggina, the branchial basket was an innovation that evolved in just the lineage leading to modern lampreys.

    Not. That. Hard.

    And whoever wrote that hot mess for the Discovery Institute didn’t get it. I wonder who it was? Klinghoffer? Luskin? O’Leary? They’ve got an amazing roster of incompetents to write for them.

  6. says

    it should hardly be more surprising to find than a Precambrian rabbit

    Never mind understanding evolution, understanding how to construct a sentence would be a start. To support their position, “more surprising” should read “less surprising”. Either that or the “than” is superfluous.

  7. Kevin Kehres says

    Please, nobody make a drinking game out of Discotute’s failures.

    My liver can’t handle it.

  8. dick says

    Now what would be really good would be to find a Creationist in the Cambrian, or better still, a whole bunch of them, or all of them even. You know, on the “have your cake & eat” it principle.

  9. Le Chifforobe says

    So confused now. I thought a fish and a human were the same thing?

    Thanks for nothing, Neil Shubin!

  10. Sastra says

    In addition to all the biological problems which have been mentioned, I think there’s also a glaring psychological/social one. Any scientist or scientists who discovered what amounts to a rabbit fossil in the Precambrian would not skim over this result lightly, hoping that it gets buried under all the technological talk.

    First off, they would notice it.

    And second, pro-evolution or not, they would scream and shout and wave their hands for attention. LOOK WHAT WE FOUND! Take note; remember our names. Fame and fortune! Not to mention the rights to claim discovery and the fact that this would be a discovery, an important one.

    Creationists, ID variety or not, don’t understand either science or scientists.

  11. twas brillig (stevem) says

    And whoever wrote that hot mess for the Discovery Institute didn’t get it. I wonder who it was? Klinghoffer? Luskin? O’Leary? They’ve got an amazing roster of incompetents to write for them.

    :-D Haha, I read that name [bolded above] on first sight as “Klingon”. I laugh cuz that mis-reading seems to fit right in to the DI misinterpretation of the real discovery.
    IE: “Shakespeare plays are best performed, in their original Klingon! Ka-plah!!”

  12. a_ray_in_dilbert_space says

    K: Well, what fish ‘ave you got that isn’t jugged?
    M: Rabbit.
    K: What, rabbit fish?
    M: Uuh, yes, it’s got fins.
    K: Is it dead?
    M: Well, it was coughin’ up blood last night.
    K: All right, I’ll have the dead unjugged rabbit fish.

  13. moarscienceplz says

    You really can’t expect creationists to be good at distinguishing things. After all, they constantly mistake a poorly-collated, poorly-edited collection of random myths, old-wives tales, and poetry for the wisdom of an omniscient being.

  14. Crip Dyke, Right Reverend Feminist FuckToy of Death & Her Handmaiden says

    Discovery Institute:

    Scientists, once again, have predicted that fossils would be found in sedimentary deposits, if those deposits were found in a particular place, at a particular elevation. Once again, those predictions have been proved true.

    After finding the shale in question, scientists predicted that they would find animals consistent with a grouping that they call “Cambrian”, while further predicting that, despite fitting in with the Cambrian groupings by virtue of shape and of various characters observable in the fossils. Yet a further prediction was that while evolutionary relationships will be implied for some, that with at least some of the animals found any evolutionary relationships to other Cambrian animals will remain unknown until even more discoveries later.

    We have investigated this phenomenon, and concluded that the scientists are right. This is why we believe them to be in league with Shai-tan or Shai-Hullud or some such. “Anyone who practices divination or tells fortunes or interprets omens, … is an abomination to the Lord.” Deuteronomy, 18:10-11

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  15. Becca Stareyes says

    Sastra,

    They’d also present all the tests they did to show this wasn’t geology muddling their dating, a stupid prank, a forgery, etc. and requests for other scientists to get out and search this type of rocks of this age to find more Precambrian rabbits. Because, yeah, this is a way to be Very Famous… or look very silly if you miss something obvious.

  16. mesh says

    @21

    You really do have to appreciate the spectrum of denialism for its creativity in finding fault with reality. There’s just so many colorful narratives they can invoke to paper over inconvenient facts. On one hand, “historical science” can never be used to draw conclusions from fossil evidence and it’s all just so darn ambiguous and open to interpretation. On the other, sure, accurate conclusions can be drawn, but only because you’re a seer reading the Devil’s tea leaves.

  17. Callinectes says

    Incidentally, I love coming across these cladistic analyses of basal forms in your blog (I caught the same bug for cladistics as Aron Ra). I’d be happy to see more of them, with or without a specific objection to some crass creationist.

  18. David Marjanović says

    O hai, Crip Dyke! I maded you an Internets from lavender cookies. And I did not eated it.

    Morris SC

    No – Conway Morris S. No idea why he’s got a double surname without so much as a hyphen in between, but he does.

    Caron JB2

    Two?

    In addition to all the biological problems which have been mentioned, I think there’s also a glaring psychological/social one. Any scientist or scientists who discovered what amounts to a rabbit fossil in the Precambrian would not skim over this result lightly, hoping that it gets buried under all the technological talk.

    They would, however, publish it in Nature. :-þ

    Ka-plah!!

    Qapla’, with this consonant at the end.

    I love coming across these cladistic analyses […] in your blog

    PZ hasn’t presented the analysis, though – only the outcome (the cladogram).

    of basal forms

    “Basal” only means “far enough away from whatever I’m most interested in at the moment”. When you’re talking about turtle origins, mammals are the basalmost amniotes – and there’s at least one paper that called us that.

  19. says

    While not fully fluent in this particular branch of science vocabulary, I do speak English, and I do know what the word “basal” means. Hey, I’m smarter than a creationist! Time to do a happy dance!

  20. grasshopper says

    @24 Callinectes

    “I love coming across these cladistic analyses “.

    As the famous French wit Lamarck Twain said, “There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and cladistics.”

  21. busterggi says

    Tim: “He’s got huge, sharp… er… He can leap about. Look at the bones!”

    Ach! Wrong rabbit!

  22. only lal says

    It’s not that the creationists don’t understand all this. They’re intentionally trying to spin news to suit the agenda they’re pushing. The trick is to fool laymen and students who are gullible to being misled by their articles. Since Steven Meyer has published a book stating that the Cambrian animals were designed, they’re especially eager to dismiss any evolutionary account connected with the Cambrian or Precambrian.
    PZ Myers is doing science a favor by exposing the stupidity in their claims from time to time. It can help confused students understand why the creationist articles are so wrong.

  23. Alex says

    I’m not holding my breath for Lagosauridae either.

    @grasshopper

    Funny! But I thought it was by Darvinci.

  24. Rich Woods says

    @Crip Dyke #21:

    We have investigated this phenomenon, and concluded that the scientists are right. This is why we believe them to be in league with Shai-tan or Shai-Hullud or some such. “Anyone who practices divination or tells fortunes or interprets omens, … is an abomination to the Lord.” Deuteronomy, 18:10-11

    Fucking hell, CD, you almost had me convinced! If ever you decide to give up being ethical and honest, you should go into religion and make your fortune.

  25. says

    How to deal with a Cambrian rabbit:

    First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then, shalt thou count to three. No more. No less. Three shalt be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, nor either count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then, lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Cambria towards thy foe, who, being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it.

  26. mykroft says

    PZ,
    They don’t need to be competent enough to accurately describe a scientific paper. They just have to sound like they know what they are talking about, to that subset of the population that accepts anything that is supposed to “disprove” evolution. They may even look at the scientific rebuttals to their message as a good thing, in the same way that Perry’s indictment was great for fundraising. “See! We’re being persecuted! It must mean that we’re right!”

    Their audience falls into the category of “You can fool some of the people all of the time”, the same resource tapped by the Republicans and religions. At best, you’ll give those who are starting to ask questions more to think about.

  27. chigau (違う) says

    I composed a complicated comment about monks eating rabbits whilst pretending they were fish (the rabbits, not the monks) and monkfish and rabbitfish but it had too many links and hrefs and stuff.
    It was pretty good.

  28. Hairy Chris, blah blah blah etc says

    I seem to remember that baby rabbits were considered to be fish in some places in the Middle Ages to get around religious dietary restrictions…

  29. birgerjohansson says

    “Notice that Conway Morris and Caron have identified Metaspriggina as a “basal vertebrate”
    -Methinks it is a *chordate* until proven otherwise. !!!!!!!!!
    (extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence)
    .
    If you find a big pre-cambrian organism it is probably a shoggoth*
    *BTW if those old Lovecraftian beasts were so fearsome, how come they were displaced by critters that were as complex as pond slime?

  30. birgerjohansson says

    Now I expect the creationists to try to shoehorn the discovery of nocturnal synapsids like Dimetrodon into proof of creation.

  31. sojourner says

    Has that Discovery place ever discovered anything besides suckers??

    Also if they believe in intelligent design, whomsoever did the designing did a damn poor job!!!

  32. shadow says

    Seriously, what part of “basal stem-group soft-bodied vertebrate” did they fail to comprehend?

    All of it.

    @35: Ah, the ‘Book of Armaments’ and the instructions to saint Attila.

  33. larrylyons says

    Manipogo? you have got to be kidding. That was started when I was a kid. A friend of my father’s was selling lots for cottages and concocted the sighting story to drum up publicity selling real estate lots. (true story btw the family still has the cabin in the development).

  34. mothra says

    @ 18: A fish, a rabbit and a creationist walked into a bar. After a short wait, the fish crawled into a booth, the rabbit hopped onto a bar stool, and the creationist walked over and asked ‘would you like fries with that?’

  35. Ichthyic says

    chigau (違う)

    5 September 2014 at 7:10 pm

    mothra #47
    Good one.

    Daz: Experiencing A Slight Gravitas Shortfall

    5 September 2014 at 7:31 pm

    mothra #47

    and the creationist walked over and asked ‘would you like fries with that?’

    Do people in low wage jobs deserve to be held up as “losers”?

    Pharyngula, in a nutshell.

  36. Ichthyic says

    and yet Chigau did.

    will you criticize Chigau for thinking it funny?

    will Chigau now feel guilty for thinking it funny?

    like I said… this is Pharyngula, in a nutshell, for better or worse.

    It’s interesting, that’s for sure.

  37. Ichthyic says

    “Oh look, a lowly menial! Hahahaha!”

    why not

    “Oh look, creationists are stupid.”

    do you think it was Mothra’s intention to insult people who work as fast food clerks, or could it be they were using the trope itself as fuel for their joke?

    I think we’d better ask Mothra to explain in detail…

  38. says

    Eh? I criticised the all-too-often-seen words I quoted and pointed out why I think they should avoided. Hopefully both those who utter them without thinking of their implication and those who laugh at them in the same way—which includes both Mothra and Chigau, along with way too many others—will understand my criticism.

  39. says

    Ichthyic #53

    Oh look, a lowly menial! Hahahaha!”

    why not

    “Oh look, creationists are stupid.”

    And that’s my point. The trope relies on menial jobs being automatically equated with bad education, stupidity, etc, not to mention a hefty measure of relative worthlessness.

    I’ve done such work all my life. That joke stings, every time I hear it.

  40. 2kittehs says

    Not sure if this is stepping on toes, not being a regular commenter, but I agree with Daz. That punchline rubbed me the wrong way.

  41. samgardner says

    Also, agree with Daz, at least largely. Not sure how the joke could have been rephrased, though. Or even if it should. It’s not actually a very good joke even if you’re not offended by the trope. Creationists are beyond “badly educated”, and don’t necessarily have problems finding high-paying jobs.