Let’s hope Tarryl Clark can pull it off: she’s the Democratic candidate running against Michele Bachmann. She has a fairly sensible, centrist agenda so maybe it will work…but then, they could pull a mangy muskrat out of the Mississippi and run it against Bachmann, and it would be an improvement.
She doesn’t have a catchy campaign slogan yet, though. May I suggest “Tarryl Clark: Not Crazy” as a possibility?
“Tarryl Clark: Still Sane After All These Years”
“Tarryl Clark: I’ll Fill Out My Census Form!”
In the meantime, here’s an interesting page.
“A vote for Tarryl Clark is a vote for reality!”
Maybe we can come up with a slogan for Bachmann:
Michelle Bachmann: When reality just isn’t good enough!
Bachmann: The truth is powerful; it must be used sparingly
Bachmann even got mentioned in a recent piece on Republican historical revisionist wackaloons:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/3466905
Maybe all those people who gave last-minute money to Tinklenberg will do it soon enough to make a difference this time around.
I do not know what’s wrong with that district but the sane people need to start voting.
Barney Frank may have said it best:
or something to that effect. Beautifully said and DNO! He was referring to the Tea Party movement, not bowel, although, now that I think about it, what’s the difference! (Link to this quote may have been on this site, can’t remember)
I’m on disability, but I’m donating $25 to her campaign right now. I’ve had more than enough of Missile Wackman. Who’ll join me?
What about Maureen Reed? Isn’t there supposed to a Democratic primary, or is the party endorsement sufficient to make Clark’s nomination a certainty?
and this is the best we can find to run against Bachmann, yikes
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Tarryl was a frequent volunteer in her church, where she sang in the choir, taught Sunday school, and was one of the first female acolytes (altar girl) in her parish.
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@#7 I will, and I live in MN 3rd where we have our own latent bible-thumping, ID horseshit*, nutcase problem that needs fixing.
* Apparently, Paulsen voted to teach students “to question evolution” in MN schools in 2004 and to allow ID to taught in 2005 but went all wishy-washy later when he realized which way the wind was blowing, recovering with just enough BS during his 2008 campaign to let the right people know he still supports the idea of teaching ID; I guess the 2005 Mntka school board fiasco wasn’t a big enough smack in the head for him!
PZ:
Once again the Firesign Theater is way ahead of us.
http://www.cafepress.com/firesign.290838270
@#9:
So “Not As Crazy!”?
@ #9
Yeah that’s the downside to Clark, but lets face it, what she stands for in terms of beliefs and the fact that she wants Bachmann out of office big time clearly makes her out to be one of the good guys.
Unless of course she uses similar tactics and sound bites…
Beliefs was a poor wording choice. I meant where she stands on the political spectrum.
http://tarrylclark.com/about
Obviously isn’t going to be bucking the system, she’s more interested in fitting in.
LOL! love it.
Redistricting? I know TPaw has a say, but can’t this district be fixed so that loons can’t be elected?
One thing about the US:
You sure get the ‘leaders’ you deserve!
(Hopefully Obama is an exception, but . . .)
Pity about all the decent US citizens who are dragged under by the religious idiot majority.
I like Tarryl Clark: Not Crazy, but I don’t know how true it is.
#15
A quilter and a Rotarian? NEVER! Go Bachmann!!!ONE!!!
@#17 Maybe that’s why Bachmann doesn’t want us to fill out the census!
re 21:
Actually, not filling out the census could well result in Bachmann’s district “evaporating”. She quickly stopped being anti-census once that fct became apparent.
She quickly stopped being anti-census once that fct [sic] became apparent. [citation needed]
An admittedly trivial search of Teh Internets™ only found several suggestions that boycotting the census would backfire. I did not find any evidence that Ms Wingnut has backtracked, but I could easily have missed something.
Tarryl Clark: Less Crazy?
The Clarks attend St. John’s Church in St. Cloud.
That’s an Episcopal church. Those are generally less than half a step from fully sane.
As someone living in that district, I promise I will be out voting to get rid of that nut job.
It’s troubling that even after years and YEARS of high-powered, politically potent Dick, Michele Bachmann continues to shriek like she’s never been done doggie-style.
I’m referring to Dick Cheney, of course.
Tarryl Clark: Bringing sanity to Congress.
henlij wrote:
Tarryl was a frequent volunteer in her church
If you’re only going to vote for someone who doesn’t go to church you’ll be sitting home on election day for a lot of years to come. Or you could move to Alameda County, California.
the firesign theater nailed this one years ago…
papoon for president…he’s not insane!
(and fred c dobbs don’t say nuthin’ he don’t mean)
Tarryl Clark: Its time to turn down the crazy and turn up reality(dont get worried America not all the way up!
Tarryl Clark: Vote for her she Knows its more than the Communists that have infiltrated our school systems…
Episcopalian, I can live with. I can still remembering people calling them “filthy commies.” They reserved “pinko liberals” for the Catholics (they let people wear–gasp!–jeans to church!).
No, I’m not kidding.
Anyone that can have East Texas yokels screaming Commie can’t be all bad.
Dems in the 6th have managed to find the only person less electable than Bachmann in the last 2 elections. Patty Wetterling has done great things, but she was a horrible candidate. El-Tink wasn’t much better. Hopefully they’ve tried something else this year.
Clark’s recent attempt to restrict state employees from staying at hotels that offer pay-per-view “adult films” for some reason doesn’t give me much hope.
OT, but funny:
Best sign ever
@#22,23 I must admit I do not follow her closely enough to know current situation but, if 22 is right, it’s too late – wish I’d known sooner!
A toaster would make a better congressperson than Bachmann. While a toaster wouldn’t vote for anything good, at least it wouldn’t vote for anything bad.
And, in a pinch, it can always make a nice piece of toast.
It would need to be at least 25 years old, so it’d be, at the latest, an ’80s model, and probably much older. With a frayed electrical lead, dodgy lever, mysterious scorch marks, and lots of burnt crumbs.
Still a better choice that BatsInMyBelfry.
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o204/weatherman9999/politics/kerryAd.gif
Social issues are our point. And Bachmann is a turd on those issue. Fiscal < social for our judgment...
Hey, thanks, Auditor, for inspiring me to look up Michelle Bachman with your passionate concern. I have now read of her…interesting political career, and I look forward to the people of the 6th district coming to their senses. Please, get more people to read it and weep. I can see why her policy on education alone would be enough to get some skeptics interested.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michele_Bachmann
It is an object of some irony that the article cites her family as owning a mental health care practice. :)
http://dumpbachmann.blogspot.com/2010/02/favorite-michele-bachmann-quotes.html
Sample:
My favorite Bachmann moment has to be when she hid in the bushes to spy on an LGBT-rights rally at the Capitol.
Auditor #43;
See, the people who have concluded that a toaster would make a better candidate have looked her up and seen her speaking. Ergo, they have valid reasons for not liking her.
You, on the other hand are a liberturdian tea bagger who will support someone without knowing anything about them simply because they are a Conservative Republican TM.
Auditor, care to spout a couple more right-wing talking points? After “teach the controversy”, “Nazis were liberals”, and the “liberals are all on welfare, that’s why they want it”, I only need a few more for my right-wing bingo.
erk. that should have been “and the ‘liberals are all on welfare, that’s why they want it’ variant“, since I haven’t actually encountered the liberals and housing-bubble version before.
@Auditor, 42:
She got onto my personal list of people I’d prefer to see out of office when she started accusing random democratic senators of being Anti-American, and then later defended the implicit McCarthy association. I’m not overly keen on people who think organized witchhunts aginst anyone to the left of them politically sounds like a peachy idea.
Of course, that’s the pinko commie in me speaking.
The simplest slogan of all:
Clark: Not Michelle Bachmann.
She’s a gigantic moron who wouldn’t know reality if it came up and put her in a re-education camp.
Your insipid anti-Semite bingo is noted.
Tch. And you have your swastika badge and shiny SS tags polished up.
You don’t seem to have a problem writing volubly about things you don’t know about, so why stop now?
Wow, we got a live nutter in auditor.
yess!! “abortion” and “global warming is a hoax”!!!!
bingo!!!!
Jadehawk,
As a German, what do you think about the claims that national socialism was a leftist movement?
Was that an attempt at being clever?
How about a fervent desire to stick with solid science and accurate history in the schools and an equally fervent desire to keep superstition and historical revisionism out of schools?
Could it be that you’re grasping at straws?
Did someone audit the Auditor’s brain?
I think it’s historically illiterate bullshit. Not only did the whole movement grow out of provincial, conservative Munich, Hitler was installed as chancellor by the reactionary, aristocratic wing. in the Weimar Republic, you really couldn’t get any further right than the Nazis and the royalists/aristocrats
MMMMMM….fetus sashimi.
yes, PZ himself is a student on welfare. ROTFLMAO
your grasp on reality is very very tenuous, at best, Auditor. no wonder you like Bachmann, you live in the same parallel universe in which oil is a renewable resource, the laws of physics don’t apply to humans, and embryos are human, but poor people, immigrants, women etc. aren’t, and goddidit is a valid answer to everything.
there is no debate on evolution; it’s a solid scientific theory which has beaten out all its competitors over a century ago. Do try to catch up at least to the 20th century, Auditor.
The Auditor drooled:
I love when people make assumptions about those on the other end of an internet conversation based on their own masturbatory political fantasies.
Yes, Auditor, we’re all leftist socialist communist nazis who are on the dole, eating your tax money in the form of food stamps, when we don’t sell those to support our drug habits. Oh, and many of us are also students who have never worked a day in our lives at anything you would call a real job (since nothing that doesn’t involve dirt is a real job, right?). We’re all out to exploit the system and all those hard-working American tax payers that Obama is out to rape by making them cough up a little so everyone can afford a doctor when they’re ill, or just when they need another round of babykilling.
Our lynch mob is at your door, care to open it?
/snark Does anyone who lives in a civilised country with good beer have a flat to let? I’m tired of being associated by citizenship with fucktards like the one above.
what leap? there is no leaping.
No, only in your wet dreams. No Nazi’s here. Just regular Americans who think the religious right is a bunch of idjits.
Only in the wet dreams of the Religious right. Franklin’s spending helped to end the great depression, as most economists agree.
What benefactors? The rich are liberturds, who feel they shouldn’t share their ill gotten gains. What a loser.
Bachmann isn’t Jewish you idiot. She is a member of a Christofascist cult of extremist Lutherans, the WELS. 60% of Hitler’s millions of willing followers were….LUTHERANS.
We realize you have severe brain damage from unsuccessful attempts to cross the street without your minder. Take your medications and go find a website full of crazies to play with.
You’re obviously not interested in science, or in reality, so why pretend that you are?
Because the reality-based community is not the reality-based community?
No-one is “cutting off debate”, as long as that debate is grounded in reality. Which science denialists are not.
You’re not even that.
You wouldn’t know “good value” from a bubble on the verge of collapsing.
Here’s a list of the words you need to use to communicate with a Tealiban Teahadi like Auditor.
@Auditor, 55:
Actually, I’m not even american. I just follow your politics with some interest. (In other words, don’t worry: I don’t vote in your country.)
Anyway. What she said in the interview that started this off was:
That’s a bit vague, but came as a follow up to some specific claims about Obama and his advisors, about whom she respectively said “I’m very concerned that he may have anti-American views” , and “I think the people that Barack Obama has been associating with are anti-American, by and large”.
As for defending McCarthy, I can not find a source for that, so I’ll cede that half for now – consider it a point in your direction, if you’re keeping track.
That still leaves her using “anti-american” as a smear aginst her opponents, and wanting to dig for “anti-american” sentiments in her political opponents. As directions go, that’s a fairly nasty one: In the best case, it’s a cheap way to condense “my opponents disagree with my policies, which are of course in line with some historical American Ideal” into a sound bite. In the worst case, it’s an attempt to seed a disrespect for the legal and moral standing of anyone she or her voters happen to disagree with. Either way, it leaves me with a sour taste, and that’s before we consider if she was indirectly refering to the HUAC or not.
Auditor, that you Birdman? Say “throw another shrimp on the barbie” for me, cuz you sound familiar. What are your views on the space time continuum? Too much Fosters again?
why do you hate America? why do you hate police officers and firefighters who risk their lives daily? why do you hate soldiers?
you do not value science and education, and that means you’re what will destroy America. Asia is waiting to take over, with its highly educated workforce.
what the fuck are you talking about; there was no leap of any sort.
Auditor>
If that was a legitimate request, you can start here. It was the result of typing “human evolution into Google, and deciding that it looked like a reasonable site, which took all of about 15 seconds. Try it yourself some time.
We expect people who claim there are “alternative views” as if such things were legitimate science to have not done their homework, or to have been so heavily brainwashed by their religion that providing information to them is pointless. I suspect this is the case again.
Michele Bachmann’s church the WELS, has an official doctrine that the Pope is the antichrist. It is right on their website which is copied above.
I’ve always wondered what the Catholics in her district thought about having a representative who is a member of a rabidly anti-Catholic cult.
Whatever, she keeps getting reelected. These days even the Catholics might be wondering about the Pope.
@Auditor, 73:
Which leap?
To the best of our knowledge, there was no leap in society. There was no leap in brain development. There was no leap in physiology. There was no leap in speech. There was no leap in tool making. Whatever you meant, there was probabl no leap in it.
It has all accumulated slowly. Gradually. Over a long time. Not all of it is, or can ever be, documented. Some of it can be, and some of that has been. If you could please be much more specific, we might even be able to present some of that documentation, or at least the relevant debate.
How would you know? As a mentally ill creep on SSI, you wouldn’t know what a job was if they forced one on you.
Obviously mentally ill troll. Not worth feeding.
PZ cleanup on Aisle 2, a troll just piddled.
@Alsofish,5:
There are sane people in her district?
well, seeing as the debate happens in the scientific literature, and I myself am not a scientist, that would be correct. Scientific debate doesn’t happen on blogs, you know.
and you base this claim on what? there’s millions of scientific papers testing the theory every year, and so far it’s done excellently at not being falsified. Sounds like a solid scientific theory to me.
again, what the fuck are you talking about. there is no such leap. human evolution is pretty gradual.
You mean you have no intention to so much as debate the precise nature of evolution.
We will get on that debate as sonn as we open up the class room to the debate about gold being found at the end of the rainbow, Zeus tosses down lightning bolts and that the planets and stars do intricate loops around the Earth.
figures, the troll is a sexist, too.
He’s probably talking about the acceleration in brain size increases discovered about 200,000 years ago. Some journalists picked up on it, and misreported it as the brain suddenly growing 30% larger in an instant. Creationists have taken hold of this as a supposed data point in favour of their origin story.
Auditor, instead of blowing your butt trumpet, please give one instance of Bachmann being right on any subject.
Or you can join the circle jerk at Powerline.
aaah, you’re probably right, ckitching. that’s what happens when someone learns everything they know from the press.
LOL. What a special assertion.
You wouldn’t know a plausible explanation for human evolution if it were published in scientific peer-reviewed journals, and/or science textbooks written by peer-reviewed scientists, and/or made freely available on Internet websites by peer-reviewed scientists.
Because you’re just not that interested.
Maoist mass-murderer.
Or not even that.
I’m not seeing any interest in science from you, strident Nazi.
Nothing can satisfy you, Nazi, except genocide.
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You mean you have no intention of understanding evolution so as to understand what is up for debate and what is not, Nazi thug.
Nazis are well-known as being science denialists.
It wasn’t by being Nazis like you, Nazi.
LOL. This from someone who just said “I don’t know anything about Michelle Bachmann.”
You can’t even keep your lies straight — just like a Nazi.
Wh-what? I live in Japan and spent some time drinking and chatting under the cherry blossoms, but 4/1 was still a couple days ago, right?
Why is this “Auditor” shit still making with the unfunny pranks?
Anyone has the gall to call me a Nazi better be ready for some serious, but still funny (to any bystanders) physical comedy. But, then, they only have nerve on the Net – the very few idiot “Republicans” I’ve met here (wingnuts know that real Mer’kins don’ trabell!) slink away whenever simply asked questions.
Please ban this idiot for offenses listed as abuse of privileges.
#90
I sense a bit of the Edgar Allan.
By “science” I imagine you mean the magical leprechaun under your bed. Or did you actually have some, what do them damn libruhls in the Blue states call it, um… evidence, yeah that’s it, evidence.
I wonder if the Bachmann supporter can tell us about the FDR Hoot-Smalley Tariffs?
Or maybe about the Swine Flu outbreak in the 70’s during Carter’s administration? When she said this?
Or possibly about 100% of our economy being private before September 2008?
Or when she said that health care reform was unconstitutional because
I guess Article 1 of the constitution is irrelevant?
Or ask her about CO2 being 3% of the atmosphere
Or about if the Census asks if you are an American citizen?
It’s not just that she’s wrong about a great many things, it’s that she’s plain fucking stupid and lies about thing.s
Nice going, Nazi. You manage to contradict yourself in your first two points.
Nice lies, Nazi. I bet you say that science says that black is white, too.
Nice strawman-genocide, there, Nazi.
Nice sexism, Nazi.
1. Drilling
For a commodity that will only last a few years. In order to replace it with a system that is even more unsafe.
2. Cutting spending.
Where do we start? Why not the two biggest moneyholes, Iraq and Afghanistan.
You do know the the biggest growth in spending has been with the Republicans in recent decades.
3. The global warming racket.
You are blowing out of your butt trumpet. Read what the climate scientists have to say. Not distorted stories as told by people who do not know the subject.
4. Abortion.
And why is this an issue that should be resolved by individual states? Why not argue on a woman’s right? Oh. What that has been done. You just happen to not like the results.
5. Keeping debate open in school.
There is no debate about evolution. Only about how it works. Or should children also be taught the fantasy of an earth centered universe in order to have debate.
Very good, Auditor. You are 0 for 5. Back to the minor leagues with you.
O.o
did you just make that shit up to prove the quoted point about you not being able to recognize a scientific explanation…?
Oh it does does it?
Care you point to the relevant scientific literature?
He can blow that butt trumpet for such long and substantive notes.
He is the Kenny G of fucktards.
Hmm. A slogan.
Tarryl Clark: Not completely bug-fuck nuts. So that’s a plus.
Poe.
what he means is that he read it in a magazine, or on some website.
because science is done by the popular press, dontcha know?
Chimpy, I think the blower of the butt trumpet takes seriously the media hype of the seventies about global cooling. He is too stupid and lazy to find out that most climate scientists of that time did not by into it.
Blow that tuneless trumpet.
If you lie about that, what else will you lie about? Just about everything from the looks of it. Not acknowledging the truth gets to be habit that reflects badly on those who bear falsehoods. Lying loser written all over your posts.
Nobody here is a Nazi. Your claim is false.
No citation, an obvious lie. Keep it up loser.
I applaud your attempt a fiction. No citations to the peer reviewed literature means it is fiction. Like the rest of your posts. Worthless as far as information content goes.
What Xians? The liars and bullshitters who can’t show physical evidence for their imaginary deity, or that any written records for Jebus was at best written at least a couple of generations after the fact? What a loser.
As soon as the people wanting a debate can provide some actual scientific evidence to the contrary, there is no debate on evolution.
Period.
Because a Bronze Age fairytale is a better explanation than what science can provide? Really?! If you can’t personally explain how gravity works in light of both relativity and quantum mechanics, should we then be forced to tell children that their imaginary friend is what holds them to the ground?
Do you enjoy contradicting yourself, or did you copy and paste without bothering to read what you paste?
I’d be interested to hear what you think the definition of neotony is… you seem to have it completely up your own ass about that part. You’ve also pieced in bits that look like the Aquatic Ape hypothesis, which is a complete joke.
Other than that… your story revolves around the out of Africa theory coupled with an evolutionary bottleneck that caused further differentiation in Africa, which is reasonably well accepted. Tool use dates back at least 2.5 mya, so it hasn’t much to do with your question about the apparent rapid change in brain size of 200kya. The timing does intersect nicely with things like cooking, which coincides with the eating more meat and the greater energetic benefits that come from that.
There are so many things wrong with this set of statements that I don’t even know where to begin. Is English your native language? You seem to be having difficulty stringing complete thoughts together to form sentences.
Sorrry that should have been
Until the people wanting a debate….
Try the same place we get our information: the peer reviewed scientific literature. Not from liars and bullshitter denialists you
thinkaccept as scientific… what a loser.citations for my rant:
cooking: Catching fire Richard Wrangham
(there’s some debate as to whether it was meat or tubers that cooking allowed greater use)
Tool use: Olduwan sites in E. Africa (a host of papers on this), and some S. Africa sites (D’Errico 2001, South African Journal of Science)
Ah It is graeme bird again.
We both know that. Which is why your tall tales are nothing to be concerned about. Loser.
Try the peer reviewed scientific literature. Found at institutions of higher education world wide. You are obviously not acquainted with either higher education or scientific libraries. Loser
Reaffirming his kook status, it turns out that “Auditor” is Graeme Bird under a new pseudonym.
Ooh, I like the beginning but here’s how I with MY mighty “science” like to end the story
Then see, there were aliens passing by on their way to rape some sheep and they noticed how erectus was beating up on us and also how lithe, bony and delightfully rapeable we were. At once they abandoned their unseemly sheep-lust and took to raping H. sapiens. The alien DNA mixed with ours and gave us just that edge we needed to drive those erectiod bastards to extinction. Even today, our alien progenitors occasionally pay a visit and get a little raping in. Of course they have to be more low key these days, that’s why only backwoods hillbilly types like Auditurd here get to see them.
Poe or fucktard, I’m not sure which.
new pseudonym, same dumbass
PZ, clean-up aisle Hadron Collider. Ish was back.
So, now you trust the economists? Funny how you trust them when they say things that fit your preconceptions, and reject them when they do not.
Okay, why don’t you spin this next one for us. Michelle Bachmann said that she will not fully complete her census form because, “That’s how the Japanese were rounded up and put into the internment camps.” Of course, she wasn’t saying that she was going to be rounded up into internment camps, just strongly implying it.
Of course, since you’re implying everyone else here is a Nazi (despite the fact you’ve shown no indication that you understand what that is), you probably agree with her on this piece of personal paranoia.
#102
I’ll exorcise him with a far superior Bird, from Morris Day and the Time.
‘Tis, that was not a poe. The Auditbird means every incoherent tweet. You can visit the dungeon in order to find a link to his site. He devotes two posts to his being banned by PZ. Strangely enough, most of the comments are also by him.
Were you watching Purple Rain a bit ago?
Jerome, bring me a mirror.
Hrm. I’ve nothing against Ms. Clark, specifically, see… Indeed, I’ve never even heard of her, technically…
But these ‘it could be worse’ campaign slogans are just too awesome to pass up.
So… Umm…
(Cracks knuckles…)
Tarryl Clark: I’ll stay on my meds.
Tarryl Clark: They got
nothin’nothin’ indictable on me.Tarryl Clark: Frequently sober.
Tarryl Clark: Frequently lucid.
Tarryl Clark: Of sound mind so far as the court-appointed analyst could determine, anyway…
(/Mandatory TV Nation reference: ‘Louis Bruno… He won’t rat you out’)
Yeah, I thought I heard the bird tweeting when Auditurd went off about cutting spending to get more jobs. No surprises.
at the risk of making everyone jump back in their seats and go ‘whoah!’, has anyone given any consideration to the possibility that Graeme Bird may be smarter than all of us? (and I humbly postulate that at least 90% of you are smarter than I am.)
Is there a chance that he is a satirist of such extreme, cutting edge intellect that he makes The Chaser team http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/06/04/2589089.htm and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZw2Z7LJqxw look like a kindergarten nativity play?
No, me neither. This ‘person’ is the biggest whackaloon I have yet come across. Some of his terminology, his avoidance of actually answering questions and his non-evidential assertions are gob-smacking.
Rupert the Bear could poll more votes than him in an election.
Janine,
So my other guess was correct: fucktard.
Holy crap. Every time I get busy with something it seems like this Graem Bird person shows up. I’m making a piece of artwork to donate to a local show that benefits the art community here. I baked some rye bread. It turned out awesome and I plan to blog about it and some other random crud in a minute.
Oh well… always missing the action :P
wow….its like crazy,,,
http://www.exodiac.net/