Son of a BITCH! Fifty weeks out of fifty-two I check to see what’s going to be on Science Friday, and on one of the two when I don’t check, it has to be this–right while I’m reading “Monkey Girl,” and right after having seen “Flock of Dodos”! And in the midst of lively conversations about teaching evolution, to boot. I guess I can catch the podcast. Thanks for drawing this to my attention–I would kick myself if I missed it.
David Wilfordsays
So far, it’s been a good discussion although I still think that Olson does set the scientists up to come off as being arrogant by simple virtue of talking with them over a poker game.
I do disgree with the claim that “intelligent design” can ever be a science, because its conclusion (God Did It) is untestable as it’s a supernatural assertion.
Well, as expected, it was a pretty good show. Flato holds no brief for the creationists.
We (UMN Anthro … actually, me and some of the undergrads) are going to organize another screening of Flock of Dodos some time shortly after the DVD arrives … (ordered today). Probably something small, but I’ll post it.
I think we overloaded their server. But maybe this will result in some new members for them. I didn’t know about this show nor about the podcasts.
Mothrasays
The important point of the NPR discussion was the new tack by IDers[iots], using ‘academic freedom’ as a guise to get creationism into science classrooms. After a seminar and editorial in a local news paper a year ago, I still receive letters from one particular IDer. My standard first response (to all queries) is a list of about 30 books, review articles, and primary source research papers with the kindly delivered comment to master this material and then we can have an intelligent debate. About a month ago, I received the ‘academic freedom’ argument. My two page reply, summarized to one sentence: the argument raised is a red herring, the issues with regards to a science class are: relevance, accuracy, and integrity.
Curt Cameronsays
I subscribe to the Science Friday podcast, so if you want to get a back epidode, just get the podcast file from their web site.
Ichthyicsays
mothra –
interesting.
check this thread out on PT, and tell me if you think Chip Poirot might be testing the new tack described in the discussion:
muppt says
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Greg Peterson says
Son of a BITCH! Fifty weeks out of fifty-two I check to see what’s going to be on Science Friday, and on one of the two when I don’t check, it has to be this–right while I’m reading “Monkey Girl,” and right after having seen “Flock of Dodos”! And in the midst of lively conversations about teaching evolution, to boot. I guess I can catch the podcast. Thanks for drawing this to my attention–I would kick myself if I missed it.
David Wilford says
So far, it’s been a good discussion although I still think that Olson does set the scientists up to come off as being arrogant by simple virtue of talking with them over a poker game.
I do disgree with the claim that “intelligent design” can ever be a science, because its conclusion (God Did It) is untestable as it’s a supernatural assertion.
Greg Laden says
Well, as expected, it was a pretty good show. Flato holds no brief for the creationists.
We (UMN Anthro … actually, me and some of the undergrads) are going to organize another screening of Flock of Dodos some time shortly after the DVD arrives … (ordered today). Probably something small, but I’ll post it.
Monado says
I think we overloaded their server. But maybe this will result in some new members for them. I didn’t know about this show nor about the podcasts.
Mothra says
The important point of the NPR discussion was the new tack by IDers[iots], using ‘academic freedom’ as a guise to get creationism into science classrooms. After a seminar and editorial in a local news paper a year ago, I still receive letters from one particular IDer. My standard first response (to all queries) is a list of about 30 books, review articles, and primary source research papers with the kindly delivered comment to master this material and then we can have an intelligent debate. About a month ago, I received the ‘academic freedom’ argument. My two page reply, summarized to one sentence: the argument raised is a red herring, the issues with regards to a science class are: relevance, accuracy, and integrity.
Curt Cameron says
I subscribe to the Science Friday podcast, so if you want to get a back epidode, just get the podcast file from their web site.
Ichthyic says
mothra –
interesting.
check this thread out on PT, and tell me if you think Chip Poirot might be testing the new tack described in the discussion:
http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2007/02/teachers_opinio.html