Greta Christina‘s talk at Purdue last night was awesome! We had about 80 people in attendance, which I consider a great success, especially because 1) it was snowing pretty good and 2) that’s more than IU had even with good weather (neener neener, insert silly disparaging remarks about our rival here). Thankfully you don’t have to take my word for it, because we have it on video*.
My favorite bits:
– Her Broccoli Analogy against emotivism
– Sex connecting us to our tetrapod cousins
– Her closing remarks about porn and other media
Yeah, now you have to watch it, don’t you? It’s long but worth it. (podcast?)
I actually think one of the best parts was the Q&A at the end, because it really showcased Greta’s talents. She’s prepared to answer pretty much any question about atheism, and she can do so in a concise, punchy, memorable matter. This was especially important for the couple “questions” that were really people (probably philosophy students) pontificating for 20 minutes about some theological concept against atheism that didn’t relate to the topic at all. While my response probably would have been a short “Irrelevant, moving on,” Greta replied intelligently just as quickly.
The drive home was probably the most interesting part of the night for me. The weather was pretty crummy, so a two hour drive to Chicago took three, and I think I counted 5 cars in ditches along I-65. Hooray for snow! But talking with Greta for three hours was a special pleasure – I should have been taping that, since it was effectively the Extended Edition of her lecture (featuring Jen McCreight). We discussed everything from our annoyance of feminists who reject science, to why she totally needs to get a Twitter account, to why the hell there are so many billboards for adult stores and strip clubs in conservative Indiana (backlash? truckers? Illinois laws? Anyone have a better hypothesis?)
Secretary, Treasurer, Greta, and President. Who says there aren’t any female atheists?!
Don’t forget: Greta Christina at Purdue tomorrow!
If you’re anywhere near West Lafayette, IN, you should totally come to Greta Christina‘s talk tomorrow!
More information is available at the Facebook event. It should be a lot of fun. Greta is one of my favorite bloggers, so I’m personally pretty excited to meet her. And seriously, what’s more interesting than religion and sex?! I need to think of some questions to ask her. Maybe we’ll even solve the age old conundrum of what atheists cry out during sex.
I’m lucky enough to get Greta to myself for a couple of hours as I drive her to Chicago after the event. Of course, apparently there’s going to be a snow storm tomorrow, complete with sleet and icy rain. Sheesh, can’t I drive atheist bloggers around without some sort of drama? God must be smiting us.
Don't forget: Greta Christina at Purdue tomorrow!
If you’re anywhere near West Lafayette, IN, you should totally come to Greta Christina‘s talk tomorrow!
More information is available at the Facebook event. It should be a lot of fun. Greta is one of my favorite bloggers, so I’m personally pretty excited to meet her. And seriously, what’s more interesting than religion and sex?! I need to think of some questions to ask her. Maybe we’ll even solve the age old conundrum of what atheists cry out during sex.
I’m lucky enough to get Greta to myself for a couple of hours as I drive her to Chicago after the event. Of course, apparently there’s going to be a snow storm tomorrow, complete with sleet and icy rain. Sheesh, can’t I drive atheist bloggers around without some sort of drama? God must be smiting us.
There’s still time to support Skepchicamp!
While I will no longer be able to speak at Skepchicamp, I still think it’s a great cause worthy of support. If you want to help fund this awesome mini conference, there are still tickets left for the big godless party in Chicago this Saturday. For $30 dollars you get booze, food, and the company of awesome people like multiple Skepchicks, Hemant from Friendly Atheist, and me! EDIT: And Hilary Mark Nelson, who is so inconceivably wonderful not only because he is bribing me with chocolate, but he’s also driving, which leaves myself and others able to imbibe alcohol. Woooo! How could you resist?
Oh, though if you’re a single lady, you definitely shouldn’t come. I don’t want any competition in the auction for a date with Hemant. Though gay guys are still encouraged to come – if I’m going to lose, the outcome might as well be hilariously awkward for Hemant.
Now if you excuse me, I’m going to go hide from a certain someone who’ll be angry that I’m scaring away all the cute females…
There's still time to support Skepchicamp!
While I will no longer be able to speak at Skepchicamp, I still think it’s a great cause worthy of support. If you want to help fund this awesome mini conference, there are still tickets left for the big godless party in Chicago this Saturday. For $30 dollars you get booze, food, and the company of awesome people like multiple Skepchicks, Hemant from Friendly Atheist, and me! EDIT: And Hilary Mark Nelson, who is so inconceivably wonderful not only because he is bribing me with chocolate, but he’s also driving, which leaves myself and others able to imbibe alcohol. Woooo! How could you resist?
Oh, though if you’re a single lady, you definitely shouldn’t come. I don’t want any competition in the auction for a date with Hemant. Though gay guys are still encouraged to come – if I’m going to lose, the outcome might as well be hilariously awkward for Hemant.
Now if you excuse me, I’m going to go hide from a certain someone who’ll be angry that I’m scaring away all the cute females…
Greta Christina to speak at Purdue on Atheism & Sexuality
You want to know a perk of being President of an atheist club? You have a lot of say over what speakers get invited to your school. We’ve already had Hemant Mehta and PZ Myers speak here, and when I saw that Greta Christina was added to the Secular Student Alliance’s speaker bureau, I knew I had to snatch her up! And I’m happy to announce that my Favorite Atheist Blogger Trifecta will be completed, and you’re invited to see Greta speak at Purdue:
Atheism & Sexuality
Friday, Feb 5th
5:30 – 7:00 PM
WTHR 172, Oval Dr.
West Lafayette, INOne hour lecture by Greta Christina with time for Q&A, free and open to the public
The sexual morality of traditional religion tends to be based, not on solid ethical principles, but on a set of taboos about what kinds of sex God does and doesn’t want people to have. And while the sex-positive community offers a more thoughtful view of sexual morality, it still often frames sexuality as positive by seeing it as a spiritual experience. What are some atheist alternatives to these views? How can atheists view sexual ethics without a belief in God? And how can atheists view sexual transcendence without a belief in the supernatural?
Sponsored by the Society of Non-Theists and the Queer Student Union
If you’re in the West Lafayette area, you should definitely come (and RSVP on Facebook)! Though if you’re closer to Indiana University in Bloomington, Greta will be speaking there the night before – keep watching the Secular Alliance of IU’s website for more information.
I’m happy to be hosting a great reply to that Porn and Popcorn nonsense that happened last semester!
How not to promote female atheists
Hey guys, remember that giant list I made of awesome female atheists? And how I talked about the importance of promoting this minority within the atheist community? Yeah, this is not the way to do it:
Dude: @jennifurret Is there going to be a bikini beauty contest in Skepchicamp?
Me: This is the kind of sexist BS I’m talking about. Not funny RT @Dude: Is there going to be a bikini beauty contest in Skepchicamp?
Dude: @jennifurret How’s that sexist? Nothing wrong with a bikini contest. As a matter of fact, it would be a great way to promote Skepchicamp.
Me: @Dude Because it’s a conference focusing on skepticism, intelligence, and empowering women, yet you reduced us to our boobs
Dude: @jennifurret Are you implying a bikini contest is all about boobs, no intelligence?
Me: Uh, yes? RT @Dude: Are you implying a bikini contest is all amount boobs, no intelligence?
Dude: @jennifurret Why? I don’t think boobs and intelligence is mutually exclusive, ie we can get only one but not both.
Me: @Dude I think you should stop while you’re ahead
Dude: @jennifurret To compete with Christianity, we need to package boobs and intelligence together as a killer product.
Me: Keep digging that hole RT @Dude: To compete with Christianity, we need to package boobs and intelligence together as a killer product.
Dude: @jennifurret You are so evil!
Me: I am merely repeating the things you are saying. You produce the consequences RT @Dude: You are so evil!
Okay, I’ll admit I’m kind of on a short fuse about this topic at the moment. Usually the first tweet (which came out of the blue) would illicit nothing more than an eye roll, but last night I watched the PZ vs the Preacher blogtv fundraiser. I was getting pissed how whenever Ashley or ZOMGitsCriss were on screen, the chat room devolved into “Show us your tits!” and creepy sexual comments. I hate how on one hand you have men talking about how we need more outspoken female atheists, and then on the other hand you have completely socially inept sexist creepers making us want to go back into hiding. Yes, it’s the internet, and people will say things they usually wouldn’t dare say in real life – but those thoughts are still there, and that’s distasteful enough.
Good looks and intelligence are not mutually exclusive, but good looks shouldn’t matter when judging based on intelligence. Is it a coincidence that when I think of the female bloggers and YouTubers I follow, a high percentage range from moderately attractive to smoking hot? I’d love to think that someone who would be judged as “unattractive” who was also smarter and wittier would be just as successful, but that seems like the exception rather than the rule. Males don’t have to stand up to that sort of scrutiny.
Boobs should not be the marketing scheme for atheism, nor should we have to put up with subtle sexism in a movement promoting skepticism. I don’t want to ban sexual discussion or humor – hell, I’d be the last person to suggest that. However, there is a difference between me talking about my sexuality and someone yelling “Show me your titties!!!”; between posing for a sexy Skepchick calendar and having someone suggest you should have a bikini contest during a conference; between us all trading juvenile boob jokes after I initiate it and someone making an irrelevant comment about my chest whenever I post a photo.
Think of it in terms of consent.
When I’m initiating a conversation or a joke, I’m giving you permission to join in. Bringing it up out of the blue, often in a crass way, is jarring because sexuality is so private. Some women will open up more than others – but just because I open up frequently doesn’t mean it’s a free for all. Off topic boob comments, marriage proposals, and sexy costume suggestions (I wish I wasn’t making this up, folks) get old after a while, even for an avowed pervert like myself.
I don’t think that most of the time there is ill will. I do think that most guys are oblivious at how such comments can make women feel like they’re being reduced to their breasts. Especially in a community that cherishes intelligence, logic, reasoning, and wit, being judged on looks is just plain annoying.
So do me a favor guys: Think before you speak. And if your fellow man forgets this simple rule, please remind him.
No atheist will marry my daughter!
There’s a new Pew Research study out called “Blacks Upbeat about Black Progress, Prospects,” and there’s a little nugget of information on atheists that I wanted to point out…
But there is one new spouse that most Americans would have trouble accepting into their families: someone who does not believe in God. Seven-in-ten people who are affiliated with a religion say they either would not accept such as marriage (27%) or be bothered before coming to accept it (42%).
Doesn’t sound too good, does it? But how does this compare to people’s views of interracial marriages? Is it just a couple percentage points higher?
Nope, there’s a huge difference in the disapproval. I’m elated we’ve made such progress on interracial marriage, don’t get me wrong – but this is yet another piece of evidence on the discriminatory views people have towards atheists. It’s frightening that nearly 3 in 10 people will not be able to come to acceptance of such a marriage. What a loving, understanding way to treat your family.
(Hat tip to RHB)
My first atheist wedding art commission!
My friends Julie and Don are getting married this summer, and instead of including a dorky photograph with their wedding invitation, they asked me to draw a cartoon of them! (Click image for higher quality)
If you can’t tell, all of my friends are a bit nerdy. Julie is working towards vet school and takes care of shelter animals, especially exotics – hence the snake. And apparently Don is just a big super hero dork on the inside, because he requested the Spiderman outfit.
They’re also both active atheists and skeptics, which is why they’re getting a little plug here. Julie is a frequent member of the Society of Non-Theists and often comments here at the blog. And some of you may actually know Don – he blogs over at Action Skeptics and gave a talk at TAM 2009 on Kids Thinking Critically, a “strategy to bring critical thinking skills to at-risk and underprivileged youth.” He’s also working his butt of organizing speakers for the upcoming Skepchicamp in Chicago, which Julie and I are speaking at.
An early congratulations to you to! Who says us godless heathens aren’t capable of love?
Fear of atheist groups: Now available in high schools, too!
As someone who founded a college atheist group, irrational fear and bigotry from the public is something all too familiar to me. We have to deal with flyers being torn down and idiotic statements on a fairly regular basis. Even though Purdue is a conservative campus, you figure a university is a place where you’re more likely to find open mindedness, freethinking, and at least some level of maturity. I can’t imagine what it would be like having an atheist group at a high school level, dealing with immature students and (sometimes even more immature) members of the community.
Skyler Curtis is dealing with just that at Rising Sun High School in North East, MD.
He noticed that there were different groups in his school, including Fellowship of Christian Athletes. He was recently inspired by atheist bus ads and had the idea of starting a group called Fellowship of Atheist Athletes. He asked a teacher to support his cause and approached the school administration for approval. It seems that the school administrators were concerned with his desire to use the word atheist. Maybe they were afraid that this word A-T-H-E-I-S-T would cause problems. Perhaps they were right. It was agreed that the group would use the name “NonReligious Solutions” or NRS.
I have to applaud the administration for not being complete jerks about the issue. When I was a senior in high school, a lesbian friend of mine tried to start a Gay Straight Alliance. Let’s just say the Principal and administrators did everything in their power to stop us and doom the group to failure. I also have to applaud a teacher for being brave enough to sponsor the group. Many teachers are too afraid to be associated with controversial groups because of the alienation they may face from the rest of the staff.
But of course, that’s where the nice part of the story ends.
Skyler got permission to put up flyers around the school. They only lasted a couple of hours before being torn down or vandalized. What did these horrible, antagonist heathen flyers look like?
I’m pretty sure the thought process of his peers and community went something like “Oohh nooo! I can feel my faith crumbling because I know atheists exist! I better threaten him and act like a jackass before Baby Jesus cries any more!” And act like jackasses they did. In addition to the usually name calling common to high schoolers, Skyler has received threats:
I was told by a fellow peer that he would “Jack me up” and that he was not afraid of me because he was a “Crusader.”
Christians at his school have made an Anti-NRS page on Facebook, and the migraine-inducing letters to the editor have begun:…
- Either the daughter or parent is too ignorant to get the freaking name of the club correct. We can tell what kind of standard of intellectual integrity we’re dealing with here.
- Official school clubs are allowed to post flyers. He didn’t slap them around willy nilly without permission. If this person’s daughter wants to start a Catholic club, then she will be able to post flyers as well.
- “I have God on my side and you’ll lose.” And apparently this guy has the emotional maturity of a 5 year old. Yippee.
This really demonstrates why we so desperately need these sorts of clubs, whether they be for high schoolers, college students, or “adults.” People can feel horribly alone before they realize they’re not the only atheist around. Groups make great support networks where people can discuss common themes and not feel completely alienated by all the religious organizations.
And with these groups comes visibility for atheists. Students and parents are shocked not because this group is saying anything mean or against religion – they’re merely saying that they exist. People are terrified of that. Knowing someone believes differently than you can shake your faith, or make you worried about the faith of your children. People aren’t going to start accepting atheists until they realize that we’re everywhere and that we’re normal, moral human beings.
To Skyler, hang in there! There will be times where you take so much flack that you’ll wonder if it’s worth it. You have to remember that you’re doing a wonderful thing and making your community a better place for atheists in the future.
If you want to support Skyler and the NRS, you can join their Facebook group.
(Via Skeptic Money)
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