Gay friend: Woohoo!! It’ll be contested, but that’s good news at least!Me: I suddenly have the urge to go make out with a girl just to spite some Mormons. Oh wait, I always have the urge to make out with girls and spite Mormons, nevermindGay friend: lol
Woot! imho, the appeal will be a good thing, taking this all the way to the supreme court is the most likely way to guarantee marriage equality across the country.
Curse you and your short post. I almost published mine first but my attention to detail and information delayed me. Arr.In any case, this calls for a massive gay/lesbian orgy. You folks choose the venue, I’ll bring the photographic equipment.… What? It’s for a documentary about how triumphant euphoria affects psychology! Pervs.
The best part is the conclusion to the decision:”CONCLUSIONProposition 8 fails to advance any rational basis in singling out gay men and lesbians for denial of a marriage license. Indeed, the evidence shows Proposition 8 does nothing more than enshrine in the California Constitution the notion that opposite-sex couples are superior to same-sex couples. Because California has no interest in discriminating against gay men and lesbians, and because Proposition 8 prevents California from fulfilling its constitutional obligation to provide marriages on an equal basis,the court concludes that Proposition 8 is unconstitutional.”The judge calls the Prop 8 advocates irrational bigots. I’ve never seen a more strongly-worded court decision, they tend to be a bit wishy-washy.
If I had checked my email before my RSS feeds, I would’ve already known this, as my inbox is exploding with gay happiness. But I didn’t, so I heard it from you first!YAY!!!
There is a stay (until some legal mumbo-jumbo is processed), but hopefully it won’t last long! I think Judge Walker knows how urgent it is to get people back to marrying.
Congratulations to all my LGBTQ sisters, brothers, and others in California…if there were a bottle of bubbly in our house, we’d be toasting the demise of “Prop Hate” tonight!”Let us realize the arc of the moral universe is long but it bends toward justice.” (ML King Jr)
Congratulation USA! It’s been 5 years since Canada legalized Same-sex marriage nationally (individual Provinces have had legal marriages since 2001) Oddly enough our Country has not dissolved into a chaotic disaster, as far as I know nobody has even asked to marry their dog yet! /end sarcasmSeriously though I really hope that one day soon this debate will end.
This is wonderful news to wake up to. :)Makes me a bit embarrassed for my own country, though, when gay marriage can be legalised in AMERICA. We really need to lift our game and get into the 21st century.
Boy…I’m really on the fence about this one. Really on the fence. Not because I want Prop 8 to exist – the contrary…but as much as it might hurt to say it: this might be the wrong time for a SCOTUS case on whether or not anti-gay marriage legislation violates the Equal Protection or Due Process clauses of the 14th Amendment.Fuck…I better write about it.Edit: I did.
This is incredible, a wonderful step forwards. That was one of the dumbest laws on the books, and it embarrass’ me that the Texas amendment is still there. Now if only we could get rid of the rest of the restrictions on marriage, we’d be set.
It was probably their attempt to stay the decision that pissed him off. The bigots practically begged for the court to hold off on making a decision because it might adversely affect the gay men and women that get married between now and the high/supreme (whatever) court case. Yeah, cause they’re so concerned about the emotional wellbeing of gays and lesbians. Pttt.
And yet here in Australia, in the middle of an election campaign, the supposedly “left” party has reaffirmed that the government will refuse to issue Non-Impediment to Marriage certificates to gay men and women wanting to get married overseas. Not because this fucked up country would recognise a same-sex marriage performed elsewhere, but just out of fucking spite.Cunts.So, my partner and I won’t be flying to California any time soon to get married. Sorry to rain on the parade, but if (some of) the US can do it then surely a less-religious country like Australia could pull it’s finger out as well.
I think the composition of the court right now is against us, but I think that a Supreme Court hearing is riskier for the fans of prop 8 than it is for us. If the court were to overturn the lower court’s decision it certainly sets an unpleasant precedent, but it would be quite narrow in impact, it wouldn’t overturn any other laws or decisions and legislation would still remain a viable route to change the law.OTOH, if the lower court ruling is upheld, that’s it, banning gay marriage is unconstitutional, game over. So there’s always a risk, but I say let the fools appeal, they take a much bigger risk than we do.
Not only that, but the lawyer arguing against prop 8 represented Bush in Bush v. Gore and Reagan in the Iran Conra scandal and served as Bush’s Solicitor General of the U.S. and an Assistant Attorney General under Reagan. I think he’s one of those intellectually consistent conservatives who really does want the government to keep out of people’s personal business.
After looking at the decision, I’m most disturbed by the precedent set by California officials (Governor Schwarzenegger, Attorney General Brown, and others) to not defend the amendment. Next time it could be a pro gay rights law which a conservative refuses to enforce.The State of California should have defended Proposition 8. Instead, Jerry Brown and others have told us all “the ends justify the means”.
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Roy Steves
August 4, 2010 at 8:57 PM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
I saw on your Twitter feed first! I’m so glad legislated bigotry doesn’t stand. Hopefully the appeal gets laughed at.
Craig
August 4, 2010 at 8:58 PM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
FUCK YES!!!!
Jen
August 4, 2010 at 9:02 PM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
Gay friend: Woohoo!! It’ll be contested, but that’s good news at least!Me: I suddenly have the urge to go make out with a girl just to spite some Mormons. Oh wait, I always have the urge to make out with girls and spite Mormons, nevermindGay friend: lol
Leah
August 4, 2010 at 9:02 PM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
Hurray!
WhatPaleBlueDot
August 4, 2010 at 9:12 PM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
*dances naked in the streets*
RBH
August 4, 2010 at 9:20 PM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
One thing that’s entrancing about this is that the federal judge who made the ruling is Vaughn R. Walker, a George H. W. Bush appointment.
Joel Klinepeter
August 4, 2010 at 9:20 PM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
Woot! imho, the appeal will be a good thing, taking this all the way to the supreme court is the most likely way to guarantee marriage equality across the country.
Joé McKen
August 4, 2010 at 9:22 PM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
Curse you and your short post. I almost published mine first but my attention to detail and information delayed me. Arr.In any case, this calls for a massive gay/lesbian orgy. You folks choose the venue, I’ll bring the photographic equipment.… What? It’s for a documentary about how triumphant euphoria affects psychology! Pervs.
Meg Kosowski
August 4, 2010 at 9:23 PM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
I am so freakin’ happy I could cry!
Angela
August 4, 2010 at 9:36 PM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
The best part is the conclusion to the decision:”CONCLUSIONProposition 8 fails to advance any rational basis in singling out gay men and lesbians for denial of a marriage license. Indeed, the evidence shows Proposition 8 does nothing more than enshrine in the California Constitution the notion that opposite-sex couples are superior to same-sex couples. Because California has no interest in discriminating against gay men and lesbians, and because Proposition 8 prevents California from fulfilling its constitutional obligation to provide marriages on an equal basis,the court concludes that Proposition 8 is unconstitutional.”The judge calls the Prop 8 advocates irrational bigots. I’ve never seen a more strongly-worded court decision, they tend to be a bit wishy-washy.
TerranRich
August 4, 2010 at 9:54 PM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
I may even make out with a dude or two in celebration! WOOT! :D
TerranRich
August 4, 2010 at 9:56 PM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
That is awesome. I’ve copied and pasted that conclusion to Facebook. :D
Kai Haswell
August 4, 2010 at 10:17 PM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
Can I celebrate by having even GAYER sex than I normally do? I’m going to try!
Jen
August 4, 2010 at 10:19 PM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
I support your efforts at outgaying yourself
Icaarus
August 4, 2010 at 10:24 PM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
Come up to Calgary to do the kissing, there are plenty of EFY’ers here to really embarrass.
Zeggy
August 4, 2010 at 10:44 PM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
If I had checked my email before my RSS feeds, I would’ve already known this, as my inbox is exploding with gay happiness. But I didn’t, so I heard it from you first!YAY!!!
Bluejay8686
August 4, 2010 at 11:26 PM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
It’s always nice when the country, or at least one of the state’s within it, lives up to its namesake. Let freedom ring!
Ol'Froth
August 5, 2010 at 12:05 AM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
Oh nos! My marriage is now destroyed. Oh wait a minute, nothing at all has changed in my marriage with this decision. Yay California!
Amanda
August 5, 2010 at 12:28 AM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
AWESOME news!!!
yaoi_myantidrug
August 5, 2010 at 12:43 AM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
YEEESSSSSSS!!!!1!ONE
Gbeyser
August 5, 2010 at 12:43 AM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
People, there will be an earthquake any moment now!
lomifeh
August 5, 2010 at 12:49 AM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
They must have really pissed off the judge. Most judges tend to soft shoe that sort of thing unless something ticks them off.
lomifeh
August 5, 2010 at 12:50 AM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
How long before California falls into the ocean now as $Deity proceeds to smite the infidels?
Nicholas Коля Goldsmith
August 5, 2010 at 1:03 AM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
There is a stay (until some legal mumbo-jumbo is processed), but hopefully it won’t last long! I think Judge Walker knows how urgent it is to get people back to marrying.
cognitive dissident
August 5, 2010 at 1:25 AM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
Congratulations to all my LGBTQ sisters, brothers, and others in California…if there were a bottle of bubbly in our house, we’d be toasting the demise of “Prop Hate” tonight!”Let us realize the arc of the moral universe is long but it bends toward justice.” (ML King Jr)
CDNzed
August 5, 2010 at 1:51 AM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
Congratulation USA! It’s been 5 years since Canada legalized Same-sex marriage nationally (individual Provinces have had legal marriages since 2001) Oddly enough our Country has not dissolved into a chaotic disaster, as far as I know nobody has even asked to marry their dog yet! /end sarcasmSeriously though I really hope that one day soon this debate will end.
lomifeh
August 5, 2010 at 2:08 AM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
Yeah but you gave the world celine dion and Bryan Adams. That is proof you are a land of evil.
Jen (but not the blogger Jen)
August 5, 2010 at 2:15 AM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
This is wonderful news to wake up to. :)Makes me a bit embarrassed for my own country, though, when gay marriage can be legalised in AMERICA. We really need to lift our game and get into the 21st century.
Joel Klinepeter
August 5, 2010 at 2:19 AM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
Only one that I’ve seen with harsher wording was probably the Dover trial over (un)intelligent design.
VeritasTruthseeker
August 5, 2010 at 2:48 AM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
Boy…I’m really on the fence about this one. Really on the fence. Not because I want Prop 8 to exist – the contrary…but as much as it might hurt to say it: this might be the wrong time for a SCOTUS case on whether or not anti-gay marriage legislation violates the Equal Protection or Due Process clauses of the 14th Amendment.Fuck…I better write about it.Edit: I did.
StoopidTallKid
August 5, 2010 at 4:21 AM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
This is incredible, a wonderful step forwards. That was one of the dumbest laws on the books, and it embarrass’ me that the Texas amendment is still there. Now if only we could get rid of the rest of the restrictions on marriage, we’d be set.
The Mad Engineer
August 5, 2010 at 4:44 AM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
I’m equally pleased by this amendment. It made me feel bad when prop 8 passed (because I’m FROM California), and I’m glad that sanity has prevailed.
b_j_r
August 5, 2010 at 7:08 AM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
It was probably their attempt to stay the decision that pissed him off. The bigots practically begged for the court to hold off on making a decision because it might adversely affect the gay men and women that get married between now and the high/supreme (whatever) court case. Yeah, cause they’re so concerned about the emotional wellbeing of gays and lesbians. Pttt.
b_j_r
August 5, 2010 at 7:13 AM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
And yet here in Australia, in the middle of an election campaign, the supposedly “left” party has reaffirmed that the government will refuse to issue Non-Impediment to Marriage certificates to gay men and women wanting to get married overseas. Not because this fucked up country would recognise a same-sex marriage performed elsewhere, but just out of fucking spite.Cunts.So, my partner and I won’t be flying to California any time soon to get married. Sorry to rain on the parade, but if (some of) the US can do it then surely a less-religious country like Australia could pull it’s finger out as well.
Ian Andreas Miller
August 5, 2010 at 9:55 AM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
YAY!Vale, Propositio 8!
Poor Wandering One
August 5, 2010 at 3:00 PM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
The world seems like a better place this morning.Time to put CA back on the states-I’d-consider-living-in list.Yea!
SkepticalRedneck
August 5, 2010 at 5:23 PM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
Oh my gawd! We *totally* have to have a themed gay-bash! (Yeah, I kind of intended the pun there. I’m a styoopid biatch!)
Gus Snarp
August 5, 2010 at 6:01 PM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
I think the composition of the court right now is against us, but I think that a Supreme Court hearing is riskier for the fans of prop 8 than it is for us. If the court were to overturn the lower court’s decision it certainly sets an unpleasant precedent, but it would be quite narrow in impact, it wouldn’t overturn any other laws or decisions and legislation would still remain a viable route to change the law.OTOH, if the lower court ruling is upheld, that’s it, banning gay marriage is unconstitutional, game over. So there’s always a risk, but I say let the fools appeal, they take a much bigger risk than we do.
Gus Snarp
August 5, 2010 at 6:08 PM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
Not only that, but the lawyer arguing against prop 8 represented Bush in Bush v. Gore and Reagan in the Iran Conra scandal and served as Bush’s Solicitor General of the U.S. and an Assistant Attorney General under Reagan. I think he’s one of those intellectually consistent conservatives who really does want the government to keep out of people’s personal business.
CDNzed
August 5, 2010 at 7:40 PM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
lol, yeah but that was before the whole gay marriage thing :-)
Thomas W
August 10, 2010 at 4:37 AM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
After looking at the decision, I’m most disturbed by the precedent set by California officials (Governor Schwarzenegger, Attorney General Brown, and others) to not defend the amendment. Next time it could be a pro gay rights law which a conservative refuses to enforce.The State of California should have defended Proposition 8. Instead, Jerry Brown and others have told us all “the ends justify the means”.
Introbulus
August 11, 2010 at 12:20 PM (UTC -7) Link to this comment
The best part is that now, you can do both at once. …I mean, even moreso than ever.