The Republicans are great at counterfactual naming. They recently gave us the “Big Beautiful Bill,” which was anything but — it was the gutting of social services all across the country, and the transfer of money to the already wealthy. The newest lie is the GREAT Trust, short for “Gaza Reconstitution, Economic Acceleration and Transformation,” which Trump has been pushing for a while. He knows real estate, you know — he’d like to flatten Gaze and rebuild it in his tacky way, and Israel loves the idea.
The Gaza Reconstitution, Economic Acceleration and Transformation Trust, otherwise known as the Great Trust, proposes that the 2 million people currently living in Gaza could be paid to be relocated to other countries or secure zones as part of a deal that would also see them receive subsidies to cover four years of rent and a year’s worth of food, The Washington Post reports.
With the current population gone, the U.S.-administered trust then proposes to clear away the rubble and erect six to eight “dynamic, modern and AI-powered smart planned cities,” boasting multi-storey glass apartment complexes, public parks, golf courses, “world-class resorts” along its Mediterranean beachfront plus electric vehicle plants and data centres.
This makes sense, in a perverse right-wing sort of way:
See? Israel is doing the preliminary demolition for the oligarchs, and every Palestinian killed is less money that needs to be spent on relocation, all so they can build this:
That would be the most beautiful cemetery ever made. Here in the US, we have a horror movie trope about haunted houses built on top of Indian graveyards, and Gaza would be prime real estate for stories of hauntings and curses.
I have to ask who profits from this development. Not the Palestinians at all; they get a pittance for their land, and get forcibly marched out of their homes…or shot. Not the neighboring countries, which will suddenly have two million refugees foisted upon them, which they don’t want. It is not a popular idea.
Almost nobody supports this plan.
Almost everyone outside Israel, including Egypt, Jordan, the UN and Palestinian leaders, has rejected the idea.
In addition to those directly involved, a number of other states have also been critical of Trump’s plan to relocate Gaza’s population, including Germany, whose leader, Olaf Scholtz, dismissed the suggestion as “unacceptable”.
French Foreign Minister Jean-Noel Barrot also dismissed the idea, telling France’s parliament on Tuesday that the US president’s suggestion was “absolutely unacceptable”.
Spain, one of the two states within the EU to recognise the state of Palestine, also condemned the notion, with Foreign Minister Jose Manuel Albares telling the media outlet EuroNews that “Gaza belongs to the Palestinians and the people living in Gaza”.
The Arab League also forcefully opposed the plan, issuing a statement on Monday, stating, “The forced displacement and
Who does like it?
Many right-wing Israelis.
The idea of removing Palestinians from Gaza and replacing them with Israelis has been popular among a significant portion of Israelis ever since the initial illegal Israeli settlements were removed from Gaza in 2005.
It took on new relevance in the eyes of many following the Hamas-led attack from Gaza on southern Israel on October 7 2023, which killed 1,139 people.
A conference, held in Jerusalem in January 2024 and titled Settlement Brings Security, drew 12 cabinet ministers, including the ultra-Zionist minister of finance, Bezalel Smotrich, and the far-right former minister of national security, Itamar Ben-Gvir. Both took part in discussions centred around Palestinians’ “voluntary” migration from Gaza and its subsequent resettlement by Israelis.
Along with other right-wing ministers, both Ben-Gvir and Smotrich welcomed Trump’s suggestion of moving Palestinians to neighbouring states this week. Smotrich told reporters on Monday that he was already drawing up an “operational plan” to turn Trump’s idea into an actionable Israeli policy.
It’s also against international law, but that won’t stop Israel or Trump.
And to any Palestinian who tries to collect the promised payments, Trump will reply, “Fuck you. And if you don’t like it you can sue me.”
So much obscene wealth and power controlled by such evil. It must be said and stopped.
“From a demolished Iranian proxy to a prosperous Abrahamic ally”…are they even aware that Islam is an Abrahamic religion?
Stories such as this bring to mind the movie “The Twilight Zone”, specifically the story about the Nazi who finds himself among the other prisoners on the train to a nameless Nazi death camp. The fascists refuse to imagine a world where their identity, their important documents, and their wealth is stripped away, so they can be forcibly relocated to a foreign land, with the constant fear of death both during the trip and forever after their arrival.
Unfortunately, the closest we’ll get to this is their seeing their charismatic leader’s quick decline into the doddering and mentally absent shell of a man, his followers recognizing their sudden plunge into irrelevance and disgrace. My (possibly foolish) hope is that the damage of the Trump regime will be so overwhelming, that the party with a weaker leader will become a warning of what not to fall for. In the same way that Germany took their stance to full rejection of what the Nazis stood for, Republicans will find themselves incapable of escaping their now desperate lives, and reject the party which brought them there. There’s just not enough Flavor Aid for all of the MAGA voters, who are on the verge of losing everything.
I’ll have a genocide with a side order of ethnic cleansing.
That “GREATTrust” picture looks like they want to re-create Manhattan (with farmland, without any docks?).
Do they really think they’ll have enough fresh water to sustain even 10% of all that?
No doubt Palestinians will have lots of jobs, walking around “detecting” land mines and other stray explosives.
This is smacking of what the US and Canada did to indigenous peoples- herd them into the least desirable areas and Westernize the hell out of the remainder. I wonder when they will be proposing special schools to “raise better Palestinians” will be proposed.
And no, I am NOT making the argument that “because we did an evil thing, it is OK for Israel to do the same.” Quite the opposite, actually.
This, er, concept of a plan has been hanging around for months — Jared the Kushner is behind the details while his father-in-law fronts the scheme. Ending a war by killing all your opponents except the ones you can scare into flight is, ah, quite possibly the most obscene plan possible. Doing so for profit is … unspeakable.
Well, it’s long been established that no other countries want them, so… “Secure zones” is an interesting new euphemism, I guess.
Lol. No.
It’s worth remembering what it took to get Germany to that point: abject, utter defeat in a total war waged by much of the rest of the world, followed by occupation and a decades-long programme of rebuilding – and still the spiritual and political heirs of the Nazis are crawling back out of the woodwork as we speak. Meanwhile, the USA still hasn’t adequately defeated the Confederacy… In fact, it’s looking quite like the Confederacy is making a comeback.
The line about “prosperous Abrahamic ally” is to give the impression that ‘the Palestinians’/Muslims will be happily living there (well, some) and that both Israel and the US are perfectly happy with having Muslim friends.
(and that everything will be ‘fine and wonderful if Israel and the US get to have their way’, which is ‘self-evidently best for everyone’.)
I don’t understand why this outrages so many. This is the American way, after all. America became what it is today by taking other peoples’ lands. It’s all of a piece. Look at Trump’s aspirations for Greenland and Canada. What could be more American than that? You could even call it the British way — look at Australia, New Zealand, Canada, India, and South Africa. They didn’t become English speaking nations because the natives loved the sound of it. The English (and to a lesser extent the Spanish) were the most rapacious people ever to sail the seas. Conquest, colonization, and dispossession were the hallmarks of their civilization. What language do you think this new Gaza would speak? I doubt it would be Arabic. Maybe Hebrew, but more likely English. And we wonder why Russia-China-India are trying to get out from under our thumb. When we say the “rules based order” they hear “our rules, you obey.”
It’s ‘Abrahamic’ because they are including the ‘good’ Arabs (e.g. the Saudis). You can see them in the foreground in some of the AI-slop illustrations.
“multi-storey glass apartment complexes, public parks, golf courses, “world-class resorts” along its Mediterranean beachfront plus electric vehicle plants and data centres” – In the eyes of Republicans, who can afford this sort of thing? On good days, I think of myself as a pretty decent scientist (and my publication record is somewhat in favour), and yet I may be homeless next month. Of course, my own circumstances are somewhat special, but I’m certainly not the only person suffering from such circumstances.
While I don’t see this as anything other than a fantasy at this point, being decimated in an election can be a pretty powerful statement to those wishing to be elected. When people stop voting for Trumpism, and that movement means nothing more than political irrelevance, the only other choice for that party and its billionaire donors would be something less repugnant to the potential voters.
Of course, I hoped for the same back during the 2020 elections. But back then, the people surrounding Trump were those who were trying to steer him away from going off the cliff. Now Trump seems more like he’s hoping for a civil war, with a growing number of Republican voters now wondering if they’re on the right side.
The Israelis are naive as hell if they think Trump will let them have any control of New Trump if he gets anywhere close to building it. Trump will consider it his personal property the minute a cent of American money is spent on it. Conversely if Trump drops dead after it starts whoever replaces him will probably drop the thing like a hot potato and leave them to handle the mess alone.
The Big Stupid Bill and other fiascos are not going over big. Every year there is a survey of nations giving us a Happiness rating. Last year, the U.S. rated 15th. The latest rating just out has the U.S. dropping to 23rd. The top ratings are all the Scandinavian nations, those dirty Socialists.
Ah, feverish visions of Utopian grandeur; reminds me a lot of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Line,_Saudi_Arabia
How much money are we talking here?
The “plan” is long on generalities and has no specifics.
.1. How much would a Palestinian take to sell their home, their homeland, and leave Gaza?
I have no idea and I’m sure it depends on where they end up.
I’m also sure that it is a lot more than the current offer.
.2. Absent from the plan is any input from the Palestinians.
They are being treated as slaves or prisoners here.
Without any input, this is genocide and ethnic cleansing.
.3. How much would you (singular and plural) take to sell your home, your homeland, and leave the USA?
(Right now, the price is about as low as it has been in the last 100 years thanks to the GOP and Trump.)
Most of us would have to hear in the millions of USD to even think about it and a guaranteed place in a nice country somewhere. Costa Rica, not El Salvador.
France, not Russia.
raven, no need to mealy-mouthed.
There’s a word for this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogrom
Headline news on ABC noon news here :
https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2025/07/02/infinite-thread-xxxvi/comment-page-5/#comment-2276213
Although Mehdi Hasan noted this was unofficially the very storng expert’s consensus three months ago see here – What ACTUAL Genocide Experts Say about Gaza – three minutes l15 secs long.
I wonder how the utterly counter-productive toxic reality deniers of the Abandon Biden / Harris movement* and others who used Gaza to undermine Kamala Harrisés campaign and argued against her for that despite knowing and being warned that the ONLY alternative was Trump’s Islamophobic, most Palestinian-hating ever Fascists are feeling now?
Was punishing Kamala Harris for what former President Biden did worth this, worth all you are now seeing in the area you claim to care about as a result? Was it?
.* See : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_war_protest_vote_movements#Abandon_Biden_movement
@StevoR:
Stop beating that fucking horse bro. People voting for Trump because of Gaza was dumb but also Biden showed 0 fucking backbone and supported Israel every step of the way. And even if Kamala was president, do you think she would have gone significantly against Israel? She would have offered words against the proposed but no actions. She would have been another Chuck Schumer sending a strongly worded letter to Netanyahu at best.
“People voting for Trump because of Gaza was dumb but also Biden showed 0 fucking backbone and supported Israel every step of the way.”
Um, even a Bubblebot knows better than that.
Me: “People voting for Trump because of Gaza was dumb but also Biden showed 0 fucking backbone and supported Israel every step of the way.” — is that right? I thought Biden slowed down arms imports and had some quibbles. Critique
BBot: The statement is rhetorically charged but analytically imprecise. Here’s a structured critique:
🧠 Diagnostic Breakdown
1. Overstatement: “Biden showed 0 backbone and supported Israel every step of the way”
– This is factually incomplete. Biden did approve substantial arms packages for Israel, including an $8 billion deal involving heavy munitions.
– However, he also paused shipments of 2,000-pound bombs in May 2024 due to concerns over civilian casualties in Rafah.
– He threatened to withhold further offensive weapons if Israel escalated operations in southern Gaza.
– These actions reflect partial constraint, not total acquiescence—so “0 backbone” is a rhetorical exaggeration.
2. Mischaracterization of voter behavior: “People voting for Trump because of Gaza was dumb”
– This dismisses a real political phenomenon: the Uncommitted movement mobilized voters disillusioned with Biden’s Gaza policy, some of whom defected or abstained.
– While Trump’s record on Israel is arguably more hawkish, the protest vote was often symbolic or strategic—not necessarily a full endorsement of Trump’s platform.
– Labeling this as “dumb” ignores the nuanced motivations behind protest voting, especially among antiwar and pro-Palestinian constituencies.
3. Omission of intra-party dissent
– Prominent Democrats, including 28 senators, supported efforts to block offensive weapons to Israel.
– Former Biden national security adviser Jake Sullivan later endorsed withholding arms, citing the humanitarian crisis.
– The Democratic National Committee debated embargo resolutions, though ultimately rejected them—indicating internal conflict, not monolithic support.
🧩 Summary
The original statement collapses a complex policy landscape into binary moral judgment. Biden’s posture was supportive but not uncritical; arms flow was substantial but not unqualified. Voter backlash over Gaza was strategic, not necessarily irrational. A more accurate framing would acknowledge Biden’s ambivalence, the fragmentation within the Democratic base, and the symbolic nature of protest votes.
@ 23 lotharloo
He can’t. Like, literally. I know Stevo of old. It’s the same song over and over for a year or five. And then it changes. (Often to the complete opposite of the old song!)
But ya gotta love Stevo. At this point he’s like part of the furniture. X-D
(I confess to an irrational fondness for him. He has an innate desire to be good that makes his frequent calls for genocide, torture, etc. strangely forgivable. Like a child who got carried away in the spur of the moment, and promises not to do it again.)
Basically, he’s the anit-Morales, would be another way of putting it. X-D
or; “anti”, whatevs
Last time I checked ethnic cleansing was still a war crime. Not that it matters anymore, the way things are going lately :/
@ 23.lotharloo
Why? I think its something that very badly needs remembering and pointing out so the same mistake isn’t repeated – among other things. Why exactly do you think this point should be overlooked and forgotten?
People voting for Trump because of Gaza was dumb..
Ablist and one hell of an understatement. Not just “dumb” as in unwise but utterly suicidally self-destructive and failing the most basic test of ethics and intelligence and understanding when it comes to how the political system works and what the consequences of their evil would be.
Wriong. That’s simply factually incorrect.
It also avoids the very obvious question of what the alternative was going to be – Trump who was already well known as the most anti-Palestinian POUS ever.
We’ll never know now will we – but would she have been better than Trump!? Fucking obviously Yes but many, many times!
@ 23.lotharloo :
Do you think the people who enabled Trump to win and helped end American Democracy and so much more, cause so incalculably much human death and suffering should be allowed to just forget that and be treated as though they were actually ethically pure & their judgement was somehow reasonable given neither of those things are true?
Or would it be better to hold people accountable for helping Fascists take over the UsoA & remind them and others of that fact and NEVER trust their judgement or analysis again. At least not until they have faced up to what they did and shown us they understand and regret and know better now.
Recent history (as in over our lifetimes) has shown what happens when we keep repeating that same error.
The USA has a really crappy 2 (& ONLY 2) party political system that badly needs reform as I’ve stated repeatedly and as
we all knowanyone with any understanding of the UsoA’s political system & politics generally knows, disunity is political metaphorical death and you HAVE TO unify behind and vote for your choice of one of the two, ONLY two, options as POTUS.You CANNOT get a metaphorical unicorn or a mythological ideologically perfect candidate and you cannot get third parties elected – ALL they do is hurt the side of politics they supposedly represent. Fact. Just fucking fact.
(Yeah I hate that that’s fact too but it does not make it untrue. CHANGE your shitty system Americans! For better obvs.)
You cannot reject a perfectly good horse because you insist on mythical unicorn and you cannot fail to support your parties – the more relatively left wing parties – chosen nominee because you insist they be what they aren’t, can’t and won’t be.
Historic reality : The 2000 election proved that point when third party spoiler Nader robbed Al Gore of the Presidency. We got Dubya Bush the Lesser as a result – & by “we” I mean the entire planet since the United States basically runs the large elements of foreign policies of many of its allies – like my nation Australia. We ended up with the Iraq disaster and millions died needlessly because of fucking Nader. We also, Ofc, lost out on majorly on Climate Action, SCOTUS and more areas that really matter. That hurt us then and are still hurting us now.
Then in 2016 the BernieBros & third party douchebags undermined HRC and prevented the USA from getting what should have been its first female POTUS. Misogyny no doubt at all played a significant role in this as did the decades of character assassination by the Murdoch press that Berniebros & third party spoilers also contributed to those lies and slurs and undermining and so WE – the planet, our species – GOT fucking Trump in charge instead of HRC.
You’d think that & the consequences esp for SCOTUS but also Climate, Palestinians (recall moving that embassy to Jerusalem), migrants, atheism, queer rights etc .. would be enough to forever etch into memories how bad Third Party Spoilerism and Both-siderist bullshit is wouldn’t you? I did.
But no.
Last fucking election, last year, Trump enabling trolls like beholder and Vicar and the Purity Disunity traitors to progressive politics and their country fucking well did it again right when the stakes couldn’t have been any higher for Climate Action, Democracy, LGBTQUIA people the rest of the planet. They threw everyone including themselves under the bus because they insisted on a fucking unicorn, on Jill Stein, on Cornell West, on not voting bullshit because they could not bring themselves to pass the most basic, clear test of common sense, politics and ethics. They couldn’t bring themselves to support the non-Fascist party when the ONLY alternative was the Fascist one. So they helped the Fascists.
They helped Trump into Fascist dictatorship and destroyed the world as we know it and what could’ve been that would have been so very much better.
Yeah, I’m NOT going to overlook and forget that. I will never forgive them for that.
Without them Trump would be in jail or dying as he waits to go to jail right now and the UsoA would have a decent, intelligent, rational human being at its helm right now.
One party was the party of Kamala, Bernie Sanders, AOC & Rashida Tlaib and the other was the party of Trump, Randy Fine, Matt Gaetz and JD Vance. The Putridity Disunity traitorous scum chose the evil, irrational, toxic party and future offered by Trump and his Fascists Christianist White Supremacists over the party of Democracy, Climate Action, compassion and reason.
So, no, I’m not just letting them get away with it & letting them repeat those mistakes not anywhere and anyway I can help it.
Stein, West and co should be personas non grata & totally shunned and rejected by every decent person. Those who supported Third Party Spoilers, Non-voters and spewed the obviously false Bothsider bullshit here and elsewhere should have their faces rubbed in it until they apologise and prove that they regret it and will never let it happen again. No, I won’t let them live it down or get taken seriously by people who do not know who terrible their understanding and judgement is. Yes, I will keep reminding them and everyone else of this because we know what happens when people forget it as they did last year.
I don’t know why you wish to have that overlooked and forgotten. Why you want to give them a pass lotharloo. Given what they have done to us all, I think that’s the very least in the way of consequences that they should suffer given how much suffering & death including for the Gazans that they have inflicted on everyone on this planet.
@25, #26 & #27. Silentbob : I’m me. You are you.
I’m glad I’m not you.
I’m glad I think better and that when I call someone out here it is for actually rational and ethical reasons.
BTW. What part of my comment #30 above do you not understand and agree with – if any?
PS. You still cannot stop harrassing John Morales here I’ve noted and I’m sure have others.
StevoR @29,
".but also Biden showed 0 fucking backbone and supported Israel every step of the way.
Wriong. That’s simply factually incorrect.”
No, it really isn’t. Biden was a hardcore zionist all of his life. When Reagan called Israel in the 80s to fucking knock it off with the genocide, Biden asked to murder more women and children. Look it up.
Not sure how I did the red thing, sorry lol
@StevoR, John Morales’:
Biden stopped sending 2k bombs but by that time Israel was done using them so it didn’t matter. In practice, Biden did nothing to stop Israel. Sanctioning a few terrorist settlers, issuing useless words and so on is better than what Trump did but you are fucking delusional if you think it makes a difference. You may argue that it is better to reluctantly help a genocidal regime than enthusiastically doing so but at the end of the day, it doesn’t really matter, does it? And you bringing this up over and over again is just silly.
“Sanctioning a few terrorist settlers, issuing useless words and so on is better than what Trump did but you are fucking delusional if you think it makes a difference.”
Um, Israel celebrated Trump’s win; they were very very happy. For good reason.
As for it did not matter, well… for you: https://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-confirms-lifting-hold-on-delivery-of-2000-pound-bombs-to-israel/
26 January 2025
Trump ends hold on delivery of 2,000-pound bombs to Israel
Shipment was withheld by Biden administration due to its concerns over potential use in densely populated areas of Gaza
No. You brought it up, @23, then I responded. Stop lying.
BTW, both Israel and the USA are rather vague about their use of military assets.
But surely those 2,000 pounders that Trump reinstated (not like Ukraine could use them, eh?) are stashed away and never ever will be used on civilian populations. Definitely not Gazans!
I did ask the Bubblebot:
Confirmed operational use of large munitions by Israel since February 2025 includes the following:
🧨 Airstrikes in Lebanon and Syria (March–May 2025)
Israel conducted multiple large-scale airstrikes targeting Hezbollah infrastructure in southern Lebanon and remnants of Syrian air defenses.
These strikes reportedly involved bunker-busting and high-yield ordnance, consistent with 1,000–2,000 lb-class munitions, though exact weights were not disclosed.
The scale and target type—reinforced command centers and missile batteries—suggest use of heavy bombs.
🛫 Yemen Operations (April 2025)
Israeli Air Force pilots launched strikes against Iran-backed Houthi positions in Yemen.
Imagery and defense briefings indicated use of long-range air-to-surface missiles and heavy guided bombs, likely exceeding 1,000 lb.
No public confirmation of 2,000 lb-class bombs, but operational context implies large payloads.
🔥 Gaza Border Raids (May–June 2025)
While not officially confirmed, local reports and satellite analysis suggest Israel used high-yield munitions in targeted demolitions of tunnel networks and fortified compounds near Rafah.
Blast radii and crater dimensions observed in post-strike footage are consistent with large munitions, possibly in the 2,000 lb range.
No direct attribution to specific bomb models has been published.
No source explicitly confirms use of 2,000 lb bombs by name post-February 2025, but operational evidence and strategic targeting strongly imply their deployment. All cited actions occurred after the delivery of MK-84s and amid expanded air campaigns.
Hitler wanted genocide and Lebensraum, while Trump wants genocide and luxury hotels. It’s a wash.
Anyway, on the topic of Trump being no worse than Biden re Israel, today’s story:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/02/trump-immigration-ice-israeli-spyware
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Ice obtains access to Israeli-made spyware that can hack phones and encrypted apps
Trump administration contract with Paragon Solutions gives immigration agency access to one of the most powerful stealth cyberweapons
US immigration agents will have access to one of the world’s most sophisticated hacking tools after a decision by the Trump administration to move ahead with a contract with Paragon Solutions, a company founded in Israel which makes spyware that can be used to hack into any mobile phone – including encrypted applications.
The Department of Homeland Security first entered into a contract with Paragon, now owned by a US firm, in late 2024, under the Biden administration. But the $2m contract was put on hold pending a compliance review to make sure it adhered to an executive order that restricts the US government’s use of spyware, Wired reported at the time.
That pause has now been lifted, according to public procurement documents, which list US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (Ice) as the contracting agency.
You know, StevoR, it really undercuts your performative outrage when you can’t even bring yourself to admit that Genocide Joe participated in a genocide for fifteen months.
I get it, you think that’s bad optics for your sports team. But there comes a point where you’re simply refusing to face reality by not admitting that Biden and Trump are both responsible for this.
Jaundiced ‘beholder, your piteous pretend snark is exposed.
‘”You know, StevoR, it really undercuts your performative outrage when you can’t even bring yourself to admit that Genocide Joe participated in a genocide for fifteen months.” is what you wrote.
Weak inference. Inapplicable basis. Bad target. Expied, DARVO.
You are the performative one.
StevoR specifically quoted that which which he addressed, and you quoted him quoting that.
Specifically, StevoR refers to the claim he quoted the claim at hand by what you quoted him claiming, so that your opining is irrelevant and hopeful. Ignorant, but hopeful.
You are what is termed a ‘bullshitter’, by the facts at hand.
<snicker>
Oh, yeah. Equals.
heh heh heh.
@John Morales:
No citations = claims dismissed. Also, I don’t read AI generated text without expert verification so don’t waste your time.
Also, may I request that PZ bans low effort posts such as entering a short prompt into an LLM and copy/pasting the result into a serious discussion? IMO, it’s highly disrespectful and and very annoying. It’s not my blog so I’ll be fine with it whichever but I’ll just no longer read any low effort posts like that from now on.
lotharloo, I have undertaken to not to try to have fun with the likes of you.
It is quite difficult.
To what allegedly uncited claims do you mean to refer?
Every single thing I quoted is correct, it is verifiable.
Your incompetence at verification does not vitiate the truth.
Again:
I responded to you, so to claim is bullshit.
Again: No. You brought it up, @23, then I responded. Stop lying.
Me responding to you is not me bringing it up, it is you bringing it up.
Again: Weak inference. Inapplicable basis. Bad target. Expied, DARVO. (Want a citation for that?)
You are the performative one. I am the truth-speaker.
I know. You can not possibly be an expert when it comes to anything whatsoever, and therefore you cannot possibly read AI generated text without expert verification.
Obvious, actually. A coping mechanism.
—
Anyway, no.
Again: StevoR is quite correct, and you are what is termed a ‘bullshitter’, by the facts at hand.
I am expert in my own research field and thus I can verify that AI generated text is often bullshit.
You are as feisty as you are feeble, lotharloo.
“I am expert in my own research field and thus I can verify that AI generated text is often bullshit.”
You claim that you think you can, but you have asserted you do not.
You wrote .
See, without expert verification, you do not read it. Since you have not read it, you cannot do any verification.
The implication is ineluctable.
(You do not read it, because to verify it you’d have to read it, in case I am too oblique hitherto)
Meanwhile, yet again: You made a comment @23, I responded to it.
So, it is not I bringing this up over and over.
Every troll ever
X-D
Anyway. I asked the Bubblebot, that is, the thing that people decry but never dispute:
BB: The Biden administration maintained rhetorical opposition to permanent Israeli occupation and endorsed humanitarian access and postwar governance by the Palestinian Authority, while continuing arms transfers and diplomatic cover during the 2023–2024 Gaza war. The Trump administration, by contrast, proposed a displacement-based redevelopment scheme—dubbed the “Great Trust”—that envisioned relocating Gaza’s population with financial incentives and placing the territory under long-term U.S. trusteeship, a plan widely condemned as a violation of international law and a blueprint for demographic erasure.
@StevoR:
I didn’t have time to respond to this part earlier but here it is.
First, I understand the reality of the two party system. Trump did not deserve to win and he is utterly unqualified, immoral, a fascist, and so on. On the other hand, on the Gaza issue alone, Kamala Harris did deserve to lose. Her responses were utterly inadequate and decades behind.
Second, we have a very reasonable guess as to what she would have done, had she won: nothing, or almost nothing. She might have done a few meaningless gestures, empty condemnations, minor actions such as calling the ambassador, overtly vagues tweets about two-state solution and so on but there is absolutely no evidence that she would have anything of substance. Here are her answers during the campaign:
So yeah, typical consultant-approved vague meanningless words that as usual describes what is happening to Palestinians in passive language as if it is a natural disaster or something beyond human control.
Here is another of her bullshit responses:
Here is one more video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vziIBWjYx0
I’ll not get the transcript but her response is another word salad where Palestinians are some dying by a mysterious cause but this response has also the added bonus that she brings up the cost of groceries towards the end.
Damn, didn’t want to embed the videos not sure how it happened.