These hateful conservative weirdos are all concerned about their legacy (at least, they pretend they are), but they never stop to think that maybe their many children will reject their narrow-minded, painfully short-sighted ways. After all, their kids have seen what the parental dogma does to families first hand.
Case in point: Elon Musk’s disowned daughter, Vivian Wilson, is spilling all the tea about her horrible, absent father.
I understand your new angle is this “western values/ christian family man” thing but it’s such a weird choice. You are not a family man, you are a serial adulterer who won’t stop fucking lying about your own children. You are not a christian, as far as I’m aware you’ve never stepped foot in a church. You are not some “bastion for equality/progress”. You called arabic the “language of the enemy” when | was 6, have been sued for discrimation multiple times, and are from Apartheid South Africa.
You are not “saving the planet”, you do not give a fuck about climate change and you’re lying about multi-planetary civilization as both an excuse, and because you want to seem like the CEO from Ready Player One. I would mention the birth rate stuff, but I am not touching that weird 14-words breeder shit with a ten foot pole. You single-handedly disillusioned me with how gullible we are as a species because somehow people keep believing you for reasons that continue to evade me.
Every parent ought to live to earn the honor and respect of their children. If they can’t do that, they don’t deserve to have kids. It’s that simple.
I documented one of her previous rants about dipshit dad in this comment, which is also worth reading if you haven’t done so already.
My semi-feral cats like me at feeding time, so I have made some positive contribution at least.
An the local pigeons have learned to recognise me.
If the big cheese want to be remembered, they should build pyramids.
Provided they follow rules about overtime, and no goddamn Florida rules about “no water breaks during heat waves”.
This could be where I get banned from Pharyngula. X-D
But it’s not a criticism – we’re none of us flawless.
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/cxfdw/iam_the_daughter_of_pharyngulas_pz_myers_ama/
You go girl.
Mad respect for having the guts to take on one of the world’s most powerful men and his army of deranged worshipers.
Poor kids and poor us.
No one should have that kind of power.
Elon hates his dad too. Probably cause they’re raging narcissists.
I should clarify I wasn’t comparing PZ to the bigoted Musk or suggesting any sort of animosity in the Myers clan.
I was responding to
and reflecting that it’s probably rare that kids always “honor and respect” their parents 100% because they’re their own people of their own generation with their own outlook and values.
My own father was horrendous in many ways but I still think he “deserved to have kids” because otherwise I wouldn’t exist. X-D
(Sorry to disappoint you on that score Morales. X-D )
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You could never ever disappoint me, SoylentBlob.
Not in a million years.
I expect nothing but slyme from you.
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Anyway, plenty of elder abuse goes on.
Parents don’t get any respect, nevermind some respect.
And hey, it’s actually one of the 10 Commandments!
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FWIW:
https://whiteribbon.org.au/helplines/
https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/abuse-of-older-people
https://aifs.gov.au/research/research-reports/elder-abuse-understanding-issues-frameworks-and-responses
Is there anyone who has ever dealt with Elon Musk who ended up liking him?
And didn’t end up regretting it?
No. It’s possible there are a few people out there who could claim that but there aren’t many.
Musk has three children with Grimes and they have been suing each other for years over child custody and who knows what else.
It’s hard to have much sympathy for Grimes though.
Grimes is a white supremacist.
She is also an idiot.
White culture doesn’t even exist.
I/we are white and have very little in common with weird people like Musk and Grimes.
Silentbob,
Whatever else Skatje said, she nailed us all (in answer to a question about reading Pharyngula):
“I didn’t used to read it, started for a while, got too irritated at rampant sensationalism and incredibly stupid commenters, and then stopped again. “
I mean, she nailed all of you. I am a paragon of virtue and practically perfect in every way. {ahem}
Clearly a woman of insight and taste.
Louis
As a bit of light relief this highly relevant song from Riki Lindhome (of Garfunkle and Oates) hit my feed last week: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnckIWGa6mw
(NSFW!).
on parents:
just because you are certified does not mean you are qualified
Whoah. Plus also Eewww
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteen_Words
That. Is.Literal. Nazi. Shit.
Wow! Vivian is on FIR and her psychotic sperm donor just got BURNED! 😈
Edit:…is on FIRE…
I had to look it up. The fourteen words.
It’s dumb for obvious reasons.
It was a slogan that a neo-Nazi came up with, David Lane.
It does have a happy ending though.
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#3: The goal of a good parent ought to be to raise someone who is different and capable, not a mini-me.
Musks’racism is getting him into trouble over in England now too :
Source : https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-06/uk-slams-deeply-irresponsible-musk-comments-on-riots/104192110
unclefroggy @ #11 — It’s arguable that very few are qualified when they become parents. It’s a journey of discovery. Some fail in miserable ways, some succeed in marvelous ways, but most of us just muddle through the best we can. I include myself in that last group. I had little idea of what I was getting into so definitely unqualified, much less that my wonderful little boy would end up with one diagnosis after another because he didn’t fit into school so well.
birgerjohansson #2:
True. One of the most well-remembered kings of Denmark is Christian the 4th (1577-1648). Is it because he conquered lots of places? No, he failed completely and nearly bankrupted the country trying. It was even so commonly known that his royal proverb was mistranslated into “the realm needs money”.
So, why is he still remembered and, indeed, remembered fondly? Because he also commissioned some of the most iconic buildings of Copenhagen. To this very day, if you walk through the old city of Copenhagen, you can see some amazing bits of architecture, still bearing an impressive, often gold-embossed, “C4”. The buildings are standing long after the failures are forgotten.
Elon, like a disturbingly large number of our tech overlords, is a nazi. They are all obsessed with white birth rates and breeding. Strangely they are categorically against the thing which might get young white people, and Americans in general, to start families: pay them more, give them more workers rights, and build an actual social safety net.
It’s entirely possible to respect your parents even while having a relationship that includes very divisive personal issues you both care about deeply. You can even make really big mistakes as a parent, things that affect your child for the rest of their life and that you can’t undo. And you can still find ways after all that to respect and care about each other.
What Musk and the other conservative whackaloons keep forgetting is that if they don’t show respect for their children then they’re just asking their kids to make it easier to take advantage of them. I think generally speaking when a parent doesn’t respect their child then the child can’t afford to show respect for their parent. I think this is a general rule for any relationship with a power imbalance. Relationships are built on respect and if you don’t have any, you don’t have a relationship. Supplying gametes does not change that.
Oh Vivian, way to go! I’m so sorry he’s your father, but what a magnificent way to deal with it.
FWIW, I am so fortunate that I was born to my parents. I couldn’t wish for any better or more supportive ones. Also glad I have no kids – dogs and cats aside and those are obvs not mine genetically! I don’t think I’d make a good parent and fear my genes would not be good ones to continue given how much worse I might well have turned out without my family esp parents.