TERFs are experts in anatomy

I bet you didn’t know that everyone is transgender. No exceptions. At a glance, these discerning experts in what constitutes a real woman can spot them with their TERF vision.

It’s nice that the Restroom Police aren’t going to have to check out your genitals. Now they’ll determine which facility you get to use by your interocular distance, and the length of your neck and thighs.

Uh-oh. I just realized, I remember the 1970s, and I had so many friends who had Farah Fawcett posters in their bedrooms. I had no idea all those teenage boys were actually gay! And all the girls with that feathered hairstyle — all trans!


  1. Artor says

    I’m impressed that Russell Post has the chutzpah to be so obviously, egregiously wrong. Is he trolling, or does he actually think the cast of CA were all men?

  2. blf says

    The individual (singular) pictured in the OP is, of course, a wannabe Spheniscidae hydrasus (Hydralike penguin), claims the mildly deranged penguin, who despite sometimes not seeming to out of her mind, has only one known head. You can tell, she claims, by their nesting habits, including tricking the duller males into sitting on their eggs all winter in subzero cold whilst they fly off to the tropics. The large crests on their heads disguised as fur are another giveaway, with the sequined pink tuxedos some more misdirection.

  3. rblackadar says

    Somehow I doubt that the RF of TERF is applicable to Mr. Post. (But I can’t be sure. Is he someone I should know about? Just some guy, it would appear. Am I even using their preferred pronoun? So many questions.)

  4. PaulBC says

    Charlie’s who? They all look like fembots to me.

    On the 70s note, I had to drive up from Southern California recently and passed a sign to Ojai as I have done before. I can never make it past that town that without thinking of the Bionic Woman. At least we knew Jaime Sommers was part machine. (Also kind of weird seeing Lindsey Wagner pop up on Warehouse 13 but I digress.)

  5. stwriley says

    It must be amazing to have that kind of vision, to determine who’s “biologically male” and “biologically female” on sight. I’m sure that Jaclyn Smith’s two children will be very surprised to learn that the mother who bore them is actually a man. But we must, of course, bow to the incredible insights of the TERFs.

  6. leerudolph says

    I have quite different associations with Ojai: first, its connections with Theosophy; and second, that a friend of mine moved there with her mother as a teenager from Grand Junction CO, where her reward for winning a beauty contest had been to be crowned Miss Atomic Energy (with a stylized atom in the form of nucleus-plus-orbiting-electrons, far too few in number to be transuranic, as her crown).

  7. says

    I’m trying to think how I can force republicans to inspect my genitals. It could be fun, and I imagine there are all kinds of things I could say like “are you enjoying that as much as I am?” “would you like to smell my farts too?” that would enhance their experience. Maybe they’ll give me their name so I can call them and txt them suggestive messages afterward. That’s really the idea, isn’t it?

  8. birgerjohansson says

    I am pretty sure the distance between eyes varies more than little Russell thinks.
    Theosophy ? Someone in London auctioned off Swedenborg’s cranium a couple decades ago, maybe it would be possible to have it transferred to Ojai as a tourist attraction.
    With a robot clone of the bionic woman next to it.

  9. mattandrews says

    @ laurian #12:

    Imagine what it must be like to be this guy’s lover.

    Inflatable and plastic.

  10. stringquartet says

    Ahem pz, the humerus is in the upper arm :)

    I am sure this is just a brain flub, but I do enjoy the serendipity of this error occurring on a post mocking a silly person’s anatomical knowledge.

  11. says

    I’ve been thinking a bit more about bathrooms and it appears that the premise is you should share a bathroom with that gender which you do not enjoy. I.e: you should suffer (basic sadism) – but what about someone who enjoys all bathroom experiences? Is it OK for me to sing “anarchy in the UK” while I pee? Regardless of gender, that might make the bathrooming experience worse for some and better for others. Perhaps merely commenting on my fellow bathroomers’ physical appearance would raise the level of unpleasantness, without gender issue, i.e: “that Tshirt is stupid and your shoes are the wrong color.” We definitely need more precise regulation of shoe color and skirt length.

    It seems to me that America must decide whether bathrooms are intended to be pleasant or a misery. If the latter, then they should be smelly and dirty regardless of gender. Get on that, republicans, won’t you? Oh, and once we have correctly immiserated the bathroom we must make using public bathrooms mandatory. None of that having a soothing quiet poop while posting a blog comment… uh… did I give the game away there?

  12. says

    Even more amazing, by reading one tweet I can tell that Russel’s a bit of a dimbulb without even looking at his picture.

  13. ardipithecus says

    I think the solution is to apply quantum engineering and make them all Schrodinger’s bathrooms that collapse into whichever kind you want it to be when you go.

    It shouldn’t be all that difficult. When you compare what candidates say to get elected, and what they do once elected, it is clear that there have been Schrodinger’s politicians around for a long long time.

  14. Pierce R. Butler says

    If the people in that picture and those who look like them will all be sent to the men’s rooms, then:

    — the men’s rooms will get rather crowded;

    — most of the original users thereof won’t mind, except for those who urgently need to pee; and

    — the Unspoken Rule about never-looking-sideways won’t last long.

  15. PaulBC says

    Kate Jackson’s collar is really getting on my nerves. I don’t mean I’m disappointed by the lack of cleavage (it’s seriously not my thing). The collar just looks tight and uncomfortable. I clutch my neck whenever I see it.

  16. robro says

    I’ve long been of the opinion that the solution to the bathroom dilemma is to eliminate the “gang toilet” altogether and only provide private bathroom facilities. I’m not particularly prudish, but some things are just better done in private. I do appreciate the practical difficulty of achieving this.

    On a related note, I’ve never understood having a double-sink in a home bathroom. My partner and I are not going to wash our faces or brush our teeth standing side-by-side.

  17. robro says

    PaulBC @ #20 — “Kate Jackson’s collar is really getting on my nerves.” It is different, even though the outfits are all the same color at least in this version of the picture. This shot was used as a Time cover (“TV’s Super Women”) so perhaps the editors at Time felt it was too much, or perhaps Ms. Jackson felt it was too much (nice person from Alabama you know), or (most likely) the producers wanted her to be distinctive…she was considered the principle star of the show. There is another version of this shot where the dresses look the same but are different colors but that may be a photo touchup.

    I am proud to say that I never watched a full episode of “Charlie’s Angels” and only saw a few snippets when it was on the air. I haven’t been much of a TeeVee watcher in many decades.

  18. PaulBC says

    robro@21 Stalls would work if they provided reasonable privacy. In practice they don’t, and I believe that’s intentional. The small “unisex” bathrooms work well but they don’t scale to large crowds. I’m sure there’s a better solution than what we have.

    On a related note, I’ve never understood having a double-sink in a home bathroom. My partner and I are not going to wash our faces or brush our teeth standing side-by-side.

    Sitcom writers moonlighting as interior designers? There is also an entire genre of TV commercials that would fail without the side-by-side hygiene setup.

  19. Pierce R. Butler says

    PaulBC @ # 20: Kate Jackson’s collar … just looks tight and uncomfortable.

    Funny, I have the same reaction seeing (pictures of or persons) men wearing ties.

  20. crimsonsage says

    Not gonna lie, I, and a lot of other trans women I know, LOVE this transvestigations shit. It’s so funny the people and specific things they fixate on. Maybe we find it like a cathartic release because we are consonantly clocking little details about ourselves and other trans women, largely because of internalized transphobia, and we worry that cis people around us are doing the same things. Like I dont want to start a discussion on “passing” because it’s generally a toxic concept, but seeing examples that cis people who are even looking for us are so shit at it is really a relief in some ways. Some of the shit that TERFs focus on is just fucking wild.

  21. spookiewon says

    Not to put too fine a point on it, PZ, but the humerus isn’t in the thigh. It’s your upper arm.

  22. microraptor says

    Meanwhile, a Mississippi politician has just called for trans people and trans rights advocates to be executed by firing squad.

  23. hemidactylus says

    The thing about bathrooms isn’t gender, it’s that everybody’s poop stinks. Why can’t they focus on that problem instead?

    And Kate Jackson does have a confining turtle neck but no cleavage unlike the others. Humerus? Very.

    Farrah was married to Steve Austin, the hapless experimental pilot. Jaimie the school teacher from Ojai landed in a tree and became a government operative. The 70s.

  24. Ada Christine says


    the sports arena here actually has unisex toilet blocks by doing exactly as you suggest with the more-private stalls. this really seems to be the way.

  25. StevoR says

    Thinking necks note the Russell Post tweet :

    Charlies Angels are biological men. Look at the make far apart eyes, long necks and long humerus bones.

    Emphasis added, because, wait, long necks are a male thing now…

    I guess there’s an awful lot of trans rugby players then?

    That’s a new one for me – always thought long necks were more associated with women.

    Necks also being erogenous zones of a sort eg. vampire movies and, of course, going to some extremes in some cultures where neck rings to lengthen or accentuate the longness of a neck wa s teh de riguer fashion eg the women of the Kayan people of Myanmar. (Yeah, had to look them up..)

  26. StevoR says

    In fact from the Kayan people’s wikipage :


    Women of the Kayan Lahwi tribe are well known for wearing neck rings, brass coils that are placed around the neck, appearing to lengthen it.

    Girls first start to wear rings when they are around 5 years old.[7] Over the years, the coil is replaced by a longer one and more turns are added. The weight of the brass pushes the collar bone down and compresses the rib cage. The neck itself is not lengthened; the appearance of a stretched neck is created by the deformation of the clavicle.[8] Many ideas regarding why the coils are worn have been suggested. Anthropologists have hypothesized that the rings protected women from becoming slaves, making them less attractive to other tribes. It has also been theorised that the coils originate from the desire to look more attractive by exaggerating sexual dimorphism, as women have more slender necks than men. It has also been suggested that the coils give the women resemblance to a dragon, an important figure in Kayan folklore.[9] The coils might be meant to protect from tiger bites, perhaps literally, but probably symbolically.[10]

    Kayan women, when asked, acknowledge these ideas, and often say that their purpose for wearing the rings is cultural identity (one associated with beauty).

    Emphasis added again.

    Men esp stubborn authoritarian one’s are often famously described as “stiff-necked” of course but that’s a different and probly metaphorical thing entirely.

    It does really puzzle me where that Russell Post fool gets that idea from as well as the just bizarre and random choice of the famously generally considered highly attractive women Charlies Angel’s as supposed non-trans “trans” people.. Did he think the Charlie bit was because that was all of their original names or something?

    Incidentally there are indeed trans rugby players as most here I guess already know or expect – see frex :


    Also tangential here, but on the reichwing – in this case in the Murdoch media – just making absurd stuff up see :


    (Transcript available there if video doesn’t work due to location.)

    With unevidenced utter nonsense about non-existent supposed “furrries” schoolgirls in a Brisbane school and over in the States.

  27. says

    One wonders if the moron who came up with those comparisons (wide-set eyes, etc.) had even done any photography. The image that comes out of a 35mm camera on the same film (hey, this was the 70s), under the same lighting, is rather different with a 28mm lens than with a 50mm… or the same models, background, and outfits with less-intense lighting, and shifting f-stops and oh, damn, is the film negative or transparency?

    And that’s before considering that web-offset printing (as would have been done for the cover of a glossy magazine) introduces its own distortions.

    Yeah, it was a faithful reproduction allowing R. Post to draw those conclusions without any embedded scales to verify distortion. Obviously. (Do I really need to add a <sarcasm> tag?)

  28. wzrd1 says

    @Jaws, in the ’70’s, I used 35mm and for portraits, 120 film. Less grain.
    Still, the rest is entirely sound, regardless of media.

    OT, to all, please excuse me if I’m a bit off for a bit. I lost my wife of 40+ years six hours ago and am trying to figure out life again, currently on a bed still damp from my efforts, a responding LEO’s efforts (he literally ran for his AED), an EMT’s efforts and finally a paramedic’s efforts (when I got to see that there wasn’t even PEA present during efforts pauses).
    No, I’m not alright and never will be alright, I have to muddle through without my sounding board and PZ knows (as well as some of you) what that can get like without her.
    So, if I get out of line, feel free to use a lead pipe to tell me I’m really not even wrong.
    That said, if there is a God, he’s getting his ass kicked hard, bad and dirtier than it’s own history holds. Sevenfold, just to make a point of pointlessness.

    To you all, I give one request in lieu of condolences. Hug a loved one, tell someone special how you feel about them, if appropriate, call mom or dad.

  29. John Morales says


    wzrd1, oh man. Sorry to hear that. That’s awful.

    (I shall honour your request)

  30. nomdeplume says

    @40 Hey wzrd1 – I can imagine, I can’t imagine. Hang in there mate (as us Aussies say). Stay safe.

    Best wishes.


  31. cartomancer says

    wzrd1, #40

    My sympathies too are with you, for what little they’re worth. I can offer banal platitudes if you want some, but that’s about it. There is little of any real import that anyone can say in a horrible situation like this.

  32. kurt1 says

    Five more years down this road and a coalition of TERFs and republicans will install the checkpoints from Gattaca at every public bathroom door. Deeply perverted people.

  33. cartomancer says

    We’re having a weird TERF story over here in the UK at the moment.

    Yesterday evening, our tosser-in-chief (the one who looks like a half-melted ballistic gel head that’s downwind of a haystack) started an after-dinner speech to his awful Tories with a transphobic joke. Today one of those awful people came out as trans, and Mr. Partygate tweeted fulsome support.

    The hypocrisy is strong in this one.

  34. blf says

    wzrd1@40, Please accept my condolences. It sounds like you, the EMT, and others did all they could.

  35. StevoR says

    @ 40. wzrd1 : I’m so sorry to read that. Word are inadequate but FWIW my condolences and thoughts too,

  36. Rob Grigjanis says

    wzrd1 @40:

    Hug a loved one, tell someone special how you feel about them

    You got it, mate. All the best.

  37. birgerjohansson says

    When I was 22 I did not know how to cope with the death of close family members.
    Now I am 60, and I have still not figured it out.

  38. Pierce R. Butler says

    wzrd1 @ # 40: … if there is a God, he’s getting his ass kicked hard…

    An inspiring way to remember a surely inspiring person. Hang in there.

  39. says

    I’ve either seen his tweets before or someone very much like him but it was a guy who takes photos of famous people, comments about random parts of their bodies, then declares that they aren’t the sex they are presenting as. Nothing was witty enough for it to be satire, but he could well have been a troll.