1. cartomancer says

    One thing in the Colston case that is rarely brought up is the fact that hardly anybody wanted the statue in the first place, even at the height of Colston’s 19th Century fame. It took several years and many, many rounds of fundraising by the obsessive Colston fan whose idea the whole thing was to even scrape together half the funds, and he had to pay most of the rest from his own pocket. Even the four great Bristolian philanthropic societies – one of which bears Colston’s name – didn’t want to pay for the thing.

  2. davidc1 says

    There are plans a foot ,or even 30cm ,groan ,to stick it in a museum .

  3. bcw bcw says

    The plaque is a lot more interesting than the statue.
    My one criticism of the museum show is that it should be displayed in a tank of dirty river water like a Damien Hirst exhibit.

  4. wzrd1 says

    @davidc1, well they’ve got to do something with that toxic metal removed from the water.
    Personally, I’d recommend melting it down to make replacement bearings for a certain large clock in London.

  5. blf says

    The exhibition in the M Shed museum in Bristol is only temporary &msash; and provides a great deal of context. As I currently understand it, the purpose of the exhibition there is to promote a fact-full discussion of what should be done with the statue.

    Also, the sign in the OP was put up “unofficially”, so there is a possibility it won’t be allowed to stay up (Bristol City Council is notorious for having its arse stuffed firmly up its collective head).

  6. llyris says

    I think you’ll find that this is the wrong sort of history, and ought to be disposed of with an over abundance of hand wringing and cries of “Won’t somebody please think of the children”. ( but only the rich white male children, of course).

    I don’t think certain types of history enthusiasts care much for this kind of history.

  7. blf says

    Two asides: The bridge in the background of the first photo is Pero’s Bridge, named after Pero Jones, an enslaved person in Bristol. (Probably no direct connection to Colston, who was dead long before Pero is thought to have been born.)

    And the very fuzzy reddish building in the right background of the second photo is the old Bristol Industrial Museum, which is now the M Shed Museum, where the Colston statue is currently residing.

  8. davidc1 says

    @7 I have heard that metals cast before August 1945 are more valuable ,because of the Atom bombs .
    In fact some barks are salvaging ships sunk during WW2 ,even though a lot of them are classified as war graves .

  9. blf says

    @11, Yes, but particularly if the metal has been shielded since before 1945 or so, i.e., not-exposed to atmospheric fallout. High-quality steel from sunken warships — such as at Scapa Flow — is, as I now recall from possibly faulty memory, particularly prized. Not all of the ships sunk at Scapa Flow are war graves (e.g., the scuttled WW I German fleet), albeit I do not know if any salvaging (legal or not) has happened at that site.

  10. davidc1 says

    @12 It happens a lot in the Pacific i believe .The only ship i recall being sunk at Scapa Flow was the Royal Oak .

  11. Rob Grigjanis says

    davidc1 @13: Wikipedia is our friend ;-)

    The scuttling [of the German High Seas fleet] was carried out on 21 June 1919. Intervening British guard ships were able to beach some of the ships, but 52 of the 74 interned vessels sank. Many of the wrecks were salvaged over the next two decades and were towed away for scrapping. Those that remain are popular diving sites. The ships are the world’s primary source of low-background steel.

  12. PaulBC says

    Rob G@14 Wikipedia is also a friend unless I am the only one here who has never heard of low-background steel. TIL:

    Low-background steel is any steel produced prior to the detonation of the first nuclear bombs in the 1940s and 1950s. With the Trinity test and the nuclear bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945, and then subsequent nuclear weapons testing during the early years of the Cold War, background radiation levels increased across the world.[1] Modern steel is contaminated with radionuclides because its production uses atmospheric air. Low-background steel is so-called because it does not suffer from such nuclear contamination. This steel is used in devices that require the highest sensitivity for detecting radionuclides.