Girl Scouts also explicitly allow openly atheist members, while Boy Scouts do not.
Seems to be some “don’t ask, don’t tell” going on regarding atheism in Boy Scouts.
Renésays
Being the comma-fucking Dutchman that I am, I’d wish my co-leftists guard their spelling.
canoing
I need another borrle.
davidc1says
How do you do the nasty with a make of English lorry ?
richardhsays
That’s the “Boy Scouts of America” you’re talking about, presumably.
Here in the UK the Scout Association (not the only such body, but certainly the dominant one) apparently welcomes girls, atheists, members of any faith, and people of any sexual orientation, gender or ethnicity. I don’t suppose they get everything right, but there’s a definite commitment to inclusivity.
Disclaimer: I have no affiliation with this or any other scouting group.
Well, that’s what you can expect when the founder of the movement publishes a book titled ‘Scouting for Boys’.
birgerjohanssonsays
I am told the Brit who founded the movement was gay, but so far into the closet that he would not admit it even to himself.
I assume he was in the Anglican church.
jrkrideausays
@ 7 birgerjohansson
I don.t know if Baden-Powel was gay but a neighbour years ago said even Baden-Powel’s guest bathroom was “interesting”.
@René 2
But “canoing” is perfectly cromulent, referring as it does to the ancient Northumbrian practice of running around loudly shouting “No!!”
The etymology is quite interesting, in part traceable to the earliest layers of PIE: the initial “ca” (as in the Lowland Scots (or Lalans) “Ca’ the yowes tae the knowes…” and the rest being pretty obvious.
captainjacksays
I was in Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts. I was working on Eagle Scout when I quit starting high school. I figured part of the point of Boy Scouts was to distract adolescent boys from masturbating. It didn’t work real well.
whheydtsays
Re: captainjack @ #10…
That was an explicit reason (though not actually stated that way) for establishing the boy scouts.
the GSA shat the bed with a “girl power” celebratory tweet about Amy Coney Barrett’s appointment to the Supreme Court.
so maybe skip the cookies this year.
Erpsays
Strictly speaking you might be able to be an out atheist and belong to an Unitarian Universalist Association run Boy Scout troop (the national org and the UUA have a relatively recent MOU which seems to allow this). However (a) this hasn’t been let us say tested at a Eagle Scout Board of Review (which by policy is not within the troop) and (b) leaders and parents still have to sign onto the Declaration of Religious Principle which denigrates atheists.
I note their annual report for last year is very reticent about giving numbers and what numbers they give are nebulous.
rabbitbrushsays
chigau @13 – Try googling “Mr. Fish” or “Dwayne Booth” and “girl scout cartoon.”
chigau (違う)says
rabbitbrush #18
I did googly Mr Fish but I did not add girl scout cartoon.
Based on the cartoon, why would I googl Dwayne Booth?
chigau (違う)says
also rabbitbrush, thanks fir the tip
chigau (違う)says
for
rabbitbrushsays
chigau, “Mr. Fish” is Dwayne Booth. (I learned that from the googling!)
chigau (違う)says
rabbitbrush
What I got was a fish restaurant in Nova Scotia.
Then I added “comic” and got a weird comic about manly men.
I got nothing about Dwayne until you mentioned him.
Now, if I gogol mr fish, I get Dwayne and his comics.
Funny how browsers work, neh?
Snarki, child of Loki says
Girl Scouts also explicitly allow openly atheist members, while Boy Scouts do not.
Seems to be some “don’t ask, don’t tell” going on regarding atheism in Boy Scouts.
René says
Being the comma-fucking Dutchman that I am, I’d wish my co-leftists guard their spelling.
I need another borrle.
davidc1 says
How do you do the nasty with a make of English lorry ?
richardh says
That’s the “Boy Scouts of America” you’re talking about, presumably.
Here in the UK the Scout Association (not the only such body, but certainly the dominant one) apparently welcomes girls, atheists, members of any faith, and people of any sexual orientation, gender or ethnicity. I don’t suppose they get everything right, but there’s a definite commitment to inclusivity.
Disclaimer: I have no affiliation with this or any other scouting group.
xdrta says
Speaking of the Boy Scouts, from CNN, a few days ago.
At least 92,000 have filed sex abuse claims against the Boy Scouts
Rich Woods says
@xdrta #5:
Well, that’s what you can expect when the founder of the movement publishes a book titled ‘Scouting for Boys’.
birgerjohansson says
I am told the Brit who founded the movement was gay, but so far into the closet that he would not admit it even to himself.
I assume he was in the Anglican church.
jrkrideau says
@ 7 birgerjohansson
I don.t know if Baden-Powel was gay but a neighbour years ago said even Baden-Powel’s guest bathroom was “interesting”.
richardelguru says
@René 2
But “canoing” is perfectly cromulent, referring as it does to the ancient Northumbrian practice of running around loudly shouting “No!!”
The etymology is quite interesting, in part traceable to the earliest layers of PIE: the initial “ca” (as in the Lowland Scots (or Lalans) “Ca’ the yowes tae the knowes…” and the rest being pretty obvious.
captainjack says
I was in Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts. I was working on Eagle Scout when I quit starting high school. I figured part of the point of Boy Scouts was to distract adolescent boys from masturbating. It didn’t work real well.
whheydt says
Re: captainjack @ #10…
That was an explicit reason (though not actually stated that way) for establishing the boy scouts.
bcw bcw says
Thin Mints are the ammunition of the Revolution!
chigau (違う) says
How about a link to the origin of the cartoon?
richardh says
This one?
https://pbfcomics.com/comics/boy-scouts/
chigau (違う) says
richardh
No. The one up top there.
hillaryrettig says
the GSA shat the bed with a “girl power” celebratory tweet about Amy Coney Barrett’s appointment to the Supreme Court.
so maybe skip the cookies this year.
Erp says
Strictly speaking you might be able to be an out atheist and belong to an Unitarian Universalist Association run Boy Scout troop (the national org and the UUA have a relatively recent MOU which seems to allow this). However (a) this hasn’t been let us say tested at a Eagle Scout Board of Review (which by policy is not within the troop) and (b) leaders and parents still have to sign onto the Declaration of Religious Principle which denigrates atheists.
I note their annual report for last year is very reticent about giving numbers and what numbers they give are nebulous.
rabbitbrush says
chigau @13 – Try googling “Mr. Fish” or “Dwayne Booth” and “girl scout cartoon.”
chigau (違う) says
rabbitbrush #18
I did googly Mr Fish but I did not add girl scout cartoon.
Based on the cartoon, why would I googl Dwayne Booth?
chigau (違う) says
also rabbitbrush, thanks fir the tip
chigau (違う) says
for
rabbitbrush says
chigau, “Mr. Fish” is Dwayne Booth. (I learned that from the googling!)
chigau (違う) says
rabbitbrush
What I got was a fish restaurant in Nova Scotia.
Then I added “comic” and got a weird comic about manly men.
I got nothing about Dwayne until you mentioned him.
Now, if I gogol mr fish, I get Dwayne and his comics.
Funny how browsers work, neh?