Dang it, Bob, don’t tell everyone the plan! » « Your stereotypes are not helpful Trav & I seem to have had a Vulcan mind-meld Trav Mamone is asking the same question I did yesterday: they ask, Why Are Secular Skeptic Communities Failing To Address Sexual Crime?. Hang out on FtB long enough, we all seem to think alike, and eventually, look alike. Maybe we need uniforms. Share this:PrintEmailShare on TumblrTweet Dang it, Bob, don’t tell everyone the plan! » « Your stereotypes are not helpful
chigau (違う) says
Marcus Ranum says
Maybe we need uniforms.
As long as it involves lots of braid and a big hat, I’m down.
The outfits used by moonbase Alpha would be nice.
Or, for a Germanic variant, the uniforms in “Raumpatrouille”.
BTW, both TV series had a civilization that had achieved gender equality.
So what does this “we” devolve into? And what quantum vibrational wooergries peripherally power the transmogrification? How expensive are they? (I hope it doesn’t involve inserting crystals — or peas — into painful places.)
Marcus, I recommend a futuristic-looking stahlhelm.
blf, that sounds like “morphic resonance”. So very nineties!
Marcus Ranum says
I think that part of the problem is that the skeptical community has a ready supply of weaponized tropes for attacking claims of knowledge. We’ve got some horrible shit-lords who outright want to support the accused (for the lulz? because they hates uppity women?) but we also have self-important idiots who have learned how to destroy arguments and cry for “evidence?” and “” and that’s what they’re doing. Because, I guess, it lets them feel important and like they are contributing something to the something-or-other by being skeptical and all, and they have no skin in the game.
Not entirely sure I’d ever heard of that before, so I had to look it up (Skeptic’s Dictionary; also RationalWiki). Yeah, I concur, my snarky questions do seem to have telepathically borrowed from that extremely vague and ill-defined Occam Razor defier; hence, it must be true! It must, it must!!!!1!
blf, instead of inserting chrystals in painful places, we could recuit slaves the way they did in Charles Stross’ latest “Laundry” novel. Ouch!
Trav Mamone says
Well they say all of us FtBloggers are in an echo chamber.
Crip Dyke, Right Reverend Feminist FuckToy of Death & Her Handmaiden says
(((an echo chamber?)))
They™ have noticed… have noticed… the echo… echo… echo chamber… chamber. (Kicks steam engine.) And have scheduled another end of the world for next Monday. Maybe. No, the world will not end on Monday, says conspiracy theorist cited in reports:
At the current time, there is an amusing Typos offering in the cited article (the Grauniad living up to its reputation!): “Nasa has said it ‘knows of asteroid or comet currently on a collision course with Earth’.”
Or maybe it’s not a Typos offering… Typos offering… but just a ploy… ploy… ploy… to get everyone to panic… panic… and… and… and… (kicks steam engine harder, and in leaping about yelling OUCH! forgets the rest of the sentence… sentence…)
Isn’t it Tpyos, though?
It’s the echo… echo… chamber, all the… all the… echoing is… echoing is… distracting. As is my As is my… big toe, which… which… still hurts… hurts… And isn’t there… there… an Intertubes rule that… rule that… all comments on Tpyos offerings… Tpyos offerings… must have another offering… another offering…?
Because what if the accusations DESTROYS(!!!1) the poor rapey assaulter?
On the subject of “hyperskepticism” as a means of defending one’s own biases – a wise man once said to me, “Any idiot can find something wrong with anything. That’s what makes them idiots.”
One of the reasons behind the failure IMHO is masked by the accusations of bad faith.
Consider that most people don’t have access to the knowledge behind the story and that it is the nature of many people to throw in their 2c worth immediately on being peripherally aware of something.
Add in an awareness of the tradition, hard won, of innocent until shown to be guilty. Also add that many of the opinion pieces proclaim guilt and, by their wording, seem to handwave the need for evidence in the face of significant repurcussions for being considered guilty.
If you take the time to dig you do find compelling evidence of guilt, but people’s first instincts seem to be not to dig but to stand loudly on principle in in the face of secondary opinion pieces.
It isn’t helped when things become a legal matter and the evidence suddenly gets locked off from public access.
What’s the answer? Don’t respond until you have investigated.