Trav & I seem to have had a Vulcan mind-meld

Trav Mamone is asking the same question I did yesterday: they ask, Why Are Secular Skeptic Communities Failing To Address Sexual Crime?.

Hang out on FtB long enough, we all seem to think alike, and eventually, look alike. Maybe we need uniforms.


  1. birgerjohansson says

    The outfits used by moonbase Alpha would be nice.
    Or, for a Germanic variant, the uniforms in “Raumpatrouille”.
    BTW, both TV series had a civilization that had achieved gender equality.

  2. blf says

    Hang out on FtB long enough, we all seem to … eventually, look alike.

    So what does this “we” devolve into? And what quantum vibrational wooergries peripherally power the transmogrification? How expensive are they? (I hope it doesn’t involve inserting crystals — or peas — into painful places.)

  3. says

    I think that part of the problem is that the skeptical community has a ready supply of weaponized tropes for attacking claims of knowledge. We’ve got some horrible shit-lords who outright want to support the accused (for the lulz? because they hates uppity women?) but we also have self-important idiots who have learned how to destroy arguments and cry for “evidence?” and “[citation needed]” and that’s what they’re doing. Because, I guess, it lets them feel important and like they are contributing something to the something-or-other by being skeptical and all, and they have no skin in the game.

  4. blf says

    that sounds like “morphic resonance”

    Not entirely sure I’d ever heard of that before, so I had to look it up (Skeptic’s Dictionary; also RationalWiki). Yeah, I concur, my snarky questions do seem to have telepathically borrowed from that extremely vague and ill-defined Occam Razor defier; hence, it must be true! It must, it must!!!!1!

  5. birgerjohansson says

    blf, instead of inserting chrystals in painful places, we could recuit slaves the way they did in Charles Stross’ latest “Laundry” novel. Ouch!

  6. Crip Dyke, Right Reverend Feminist FuckToy of Death & Her Handmaiden says

    (((an echo chamber?)))

  7. blf says

    They™ have noticed… have noticed… the echo… echo… echo chamber… chamber. (Kicks steam engine.) And have scheduled another end of the world for next Monday. Maybe. No, the world will not end on Monday, says conspiracy theorist cited in reports:

    David Meade describes media claims as ‘fake news’ but says the rapture will occur between May and December this year

    Reports that the world will end on Monday are incorrect, according to the man reported to have said the world will end on Monday.

    Numerous news organizations reported this week that the world would be destroyed on 23 April, citing David Meade, a Christian conspiracy theorist who has made a number of incorrect predictions about the end of the world.


    At the current time, there is an amusing Typos offering in the cited article (the Grauniad living up to its reputation!): “Nasa has said it ‘knows of asteroid or comet currently on a collision course with Earth’.”

    Or maybe it’s not a Typos offering… Typos offering… but just a ploy… ploy… ploy… to get everyone to panic… panic… and… and… and… (kicks steam engine harder, and in leaping about yelling OUCH! forgets the rest of the sentence… sentence…)

  8. blf says

    It’s the echo… echo… chamber, all the… all the… echoing is… echoing is… distracting. As is my  As is my… big toe, which… which… still hurts… hurts… And isn’t there… there… an Intertubes rule that… rule that… all comments on Tpyos offerings… Tpyos offerings… must have another offering… another offering…?

  9. Saad says

    Why Are Secular Skeptic Communities Failing To Address Sexual Crime?

    Because what if the accusations DESTROYS(!!!1) the poor rapey assaulter?

  10. keinsignal says

    On the subject of “hyperskepticism” as a means of defending one’s own biases – a wise man once said to me, “Any idiot can find something wrong with anything. That’s what makes them idiots.”

  11. DanDare says

    One of the reasons behind the failure IMHO is masked by the accusations of bad faith.

    Consider that most people don’t have access to the knowledge behind the story and that it is the nature of many people to throw in their 2c worth immediately on being peripherally aware of something.

    Add in an awareness of the tradition, hard won, of innocent until shown to be guilty. Also add that many of the opinion pieces proclaim guilt and, by their wording, seem to handwave the need for evidence in the face of significant repurcussions for being considered guilty.

    If you take the time to dig you do find compelling evidence of guilt, but people’s first instincts seem to be not to dig but to stand loudly on principle in in the face of secondary opinion pieces.

    It isn’t helped when things become a legal matter and the evidence suddenly gets locked off from public access.

    What’s the answer? Don’t respond until you have investigated.