1. applehead says

    @1, UnknownEric the Apostate,

    Nah, they’d plant their pasty-white, unwashed faces in front of a webcam and ramble for an hour or so about the grave indignity.

  2. gijoel says

    Shenanigans. They’re far too polite to be alt-right. Two whole sentences and not even one c-bomb.

  3. Greta Samsa says

    rietpluim, #4
    I’d respond the same as being called a Nazi; the only difference is a few years.

  4. jrkrideau says

    # 4 rietpluim

    “alt-right” sound like a keyboard command.

    For the humans ( well the case is still out on this) I prefer RMX (racist, misogynistic xenophobes).

  5. cubist says

    Call them “alt-reich”. It’s word-play on their favored designation, and it’s also a direct reference to the demonstrable Nazi nature of the so-called “alt-right”.

  6. FossilFishy (NOBODY, and proud of it!) says

    [Completely off topic]
    I’s so weird to see Bob the Angry Flower here. That comic is very specific to a time and place in my life: long ago and on another continent. Although I enjoyed it I never dreamed it would end up having a global reach, so to see it here is really discombobulating. Mind you, I guess that feeling is part and parcel of the post-truth world so I guess I should just learn to enjoy it…

  7. chigau (ever-elliptical) says

    FossilFishy #9
    I feel the same.
    I first saw the Angry Flower in The Gateway … loooong ago

  8. FossilFishy (NOBODY, and proud of it!) says

    Yup, The Gateway was were I saw it first too. Must. Resist. Memory. Lannnnne….

  9. chigau (ever-elliptical) says

    We just did a week or so of -20°C.
    your nostalgia needs a boot in the butt

  10. FossilFishy (NOBODY, and proud of it!) says

    chigau, it’s +32 heading for +36, humid, and there’s a thunderstorm threatening. And by threatening I mean that in its more dire sense because the bush here is ripe for a fire. I’d take a week of -20 happily at this point, though I’m pretty sure I’ve gotten so cold weather weak that the wolves would cull me the second I stepped of the plane back there.

  11. FossilFishy (NOBODY, and proud of it!) says

    As I was typing the above the volunteer fire fighter siren went off and the truck rolled out, lights and siren going. Turns out it was a road accident, not a bush fire so it’s sad, not threatening. I hate summer here, I’m always on edge.

  12. chigau (ever-elliptical) says

    I have just watched several versions on yutub of
    I am Australian song
    I like it.
    Do non-white Australians like it?
    (apart from the 30K in the stadium in the video)

  13. mostlymarvelous says

    Apart from indigenous people you mean? afaik, a lot of indigenous people like it because it’s quite straightforward about the fact that they were here first.

    As for others, it would depend on their liking for folksy Australian stuff generally. The old anglo-irish 19th century Waltzing Matilda , then the 20th century war-based mateship-with-a-very-dark shadow, The Band Played Waltzing Matilda and I was only 19 are either entirely irrelevant to newer immigrants or a bit upsetting (they might have had a worse time in one of those wars or their grandad might have fought on the other side).

    Personally I think the 3 modern 20th century songs that encapsulate the lifestyle, attitudes and lack of general religiosity of Australians – along with some important details that make us a bit different from others – would be
    1. I am Australian , regardless of my forebears arriving here 40000 years ago or just a few months – we’re all in this boat called Australia
    2. I Still Call Australia Home , the eternal wanderlust of people who have no land borders with other countries as well as those who visit relatives still living in their land of origin – all have a vision of clear air, sunny skies and casual lifestyles always available, and,
    3. White Wine In The Sun . The song that tells you that your rellies and your family rituals will always be here no matter how far or how long you’ve been away. And you will always be welcome.

    (Of course, all this fairly relaxed material was written before we allowed our government, and ourselves, to degenerate into inhumane, callous, cruel, heartless, wicked bastards who allow years and years of suffering at torture levels on the part of a few hundreds of innocent asylum seekers. Just to puff out our hairy chests and brag that we won’t let just anyone come here … unless they come by air.)

    The thing about non-white, non-indigenous Australians is that they, and we, are perfectly happy to switch preferences/ allegiances depending on which team is competing with whom on any given sporting arena. People who turn up at the cricket one day in green & gold to support an Oz team will happily turn up next week waving an Indian-Sri Lankan-Pakistani flag because they’re playing that day.

    It’s most obvious in Commonwealth Games competition. White Australians who’ve only ever been seen in green & gold with a boxing kangaroo flag suddenly appear with dragon flags or tartan outfits to go with their Welsh or Scots heritage of 6 generations ago. Non-white Australians who may have been mistaken for indigenous in the past suddenly flaunt their Jamaican or Nigerian ancestry. Huge fun when it happens.