A conservative wackaloon who is very concerned about who uses the bathroom dares us: How to Stump a Liberal: Are Sex Chromosomes Real?. Wow. Do they really think that most of us would be baffled by that question?
The basis of their belief that we can’t answer it is, of all the ludicrous sources, Camille Paglia.
In a 2013 debate at American University, dissident feminist Camille Paglia told a remarkable story of an argument she had with fellow feminists in the early 1970s. When she remarked that males and females have hormonal differences, her colleagues told her that hormones are not real, they were only made up by a conspiracy of male scientists.
Is it possible that Paglia was among a group of left-wing loons? Yes, they exist. Is that view representative of most liberals or most feminists? No, it is not.
One could try to “stump” me with that question, or make me “squirm”, but it wouldn’t work. Sex chromosomes are real entities. Sex hormone concentrations differ, on average, in different individuals. You know, if this person talked to actual, live transgender individuals, rather than Camille Fucking Paglia, they’d learn that transgender men and women are quite aware of the power of estrogen and testosterone to shape their bodies. They also happen to know what arrangement of flesh they have at their crotches, and aren’t confused at all. Neither am I.
In the current debate over transgender bathroom use, acknowledging that sex chromosomes are real and that there are differences between a penis and a vagina would be to concede the conservative position, which would be to acknowledge there are objective reasons for bathroom use policies based upon biological sex differences.
The reasons for differences in bathroom policies have nothing to do with the biological elements of sex differences: both men and women have urethras and rectums, and they are in the bathroom to use them. The reasons are actually entirely cultural, that we have a social history of segregating the sexes for reasons of modesty, religious proscriptions, and the ideological isolation of women in our society. It’s not because penises stop working in the presence of a tampon dispenser, or that those are sex-specific hormones you smell wafting through the air in the john.
There is also the reasonable historical concern that men might use their privileges to take advantage of women alone in a room. That’s also cultural, not biological. But since transgender women and men don’t seem to be using restrooms as places to opress, it’s a hypothetical concern that is unfounded.
Scientists tell us that one pair of the 23 chromosomes that comprise our DNA determine our sex. Those with XX chromosomes are female and those with an XY pair are male. These are the scientific facts we should all agree upon. (Note: a few of us are born with chromosome or genital abnormalities, but this is not the same as being transgender and therefore not relevent to this discussion.)
Nope. Scientists know that between inheritance of a sex chromosome in the zygote and sexual maturity in the adult, there is a whole series of complex steps. You don’t get to say that the personality, interests, sexual orientation, and behavior of an individual are determined in a absurdly simplistic way by the presence or absence of a single gene. That one gene on the Y chromosome only switches on early expression of a male hormone, testosterone, that is then read by thousands of genes on all the other chromosomes…and those other genes implement or modify sexual differentiation in many different tissues. There are genetic differences in the responsiveness of those genes, and their expression is also modulated by environmental factors.
You don’t get to play the game of “scientists say…” and then trot out this ridiculously, excessively reductionist view of what constitutes a human identity. A person can have desires and preferences, you know, those attributes of the brain, that are very different from what the naive interpretation of their genitals says they should have. There ain’t no “should” here. People are people. There’s a lot of individual variation, and you don’t get to split the world into “male” and “female” and tell every person in each category how they should respond to the world.
But our conservative twit has an answer for that!
The conservative position is that sex and gender are the same. Those who believe their gender is different from what their sex chromosomes and genitalia indicate are suffering from gender dysphoria and can recover with proper mental health treatment.
You know, some people do try to cope with the conflict between sex and gender by getting therapy. They’re free to do that, although it’s unfortunate that they’re part of a culture that tries to tell them that who they are is wrong.
Other people deal with it by behavioral adaptation, or hormone therapy, or surgery. Their choice. There isn’t any one way to be oneself, and they’re free to do that, too.
The problem is that the conservative position is to demand all these different individuals must be treated in exactly the same way, and that way is determined by an orthodox authoritarian mindset. Deciding for people that they are mentally ill when they are not, dictating how they are to be treated, and condemning perceptions that do one any harm is just plain wrong, and causes far more suffering than it cures.
I think there’s also the little problem that these “mental health treatments” don’t really seem to work. Again, who we are is a consequence of a long series of intrinsically biological and environmental influences that aren’t going to be undone by late-in-life attempts to condition people out of their selves.
This person goes on and on, and gets rather repetitive, and doesn’t really seem to have evidence for their position other than an obstinate insistence that a chromosome is the only important generator of complex behaviors, but I just have to point out one little irony.
While those in the transgender (and other identities) community truly believe they belong to a different gender than their chromosomes indicate, believing something is true does not make it so. There is no scientific basis for such a belief.
believing something is true does not make it so. There is no scientific basis for such a belief. Did I mention this was on the Christian Post?
Believing in a god does not make it exist, and there is no scientific basis for such a belief. Therefore, I am justified in claiming that Christians are mentally ill, and we obviously need to enroll them in Reeducation Camps until we eradicate their desire to pray and go to church.
Shouldn’t that be the conservative position?