Mike Vanderboegh is one of those teabagger patriots — he’s very upset about illegal immigrants, he’s one of those paramilitary fanatics, he hates Democrats, and lately he’s gotten completely unhinged about the passage of our watered down health care bill. He’s so irate that now he’s publicly inciting violence (which is nothing new, he’s been advocating civil war for years):
So, if you wish to send a message that Pelosi and her party cannot fail to hear, break their windows.
Break them NOW. Break them and run to break again. Break them under cover of night. Break them in broad daylight. Break them and await arrest in willful, principled civil disobedience. Break them with rocks. Break them with slingshots. Break them with baseball bats.
But BREAK THEM.
The time has come to take your life, your liberty and that of your children and grandchildren into your own two hands and ACT.
It is, after all, more humane than shooting them in self defense.
And if we do a proper job, if we break the windows of hundreds, thousands, of Democrat party headquarters across this country, we might just wake up enough of them to make defending ourselves at the muzzle of a rifle unnecessary.
Great. Another homegrown fascist who has never heard of Kristallnacht.
Vanderboegh is a pretentious thug, but here’s the surprise. The gun-totin’ proud “Son of Liberty” who rails against big government and hates socialism is unemployed and living off his government disability checks.
To head off a potential outbreak of pedantry, modify previous post as follows:
The equivalence of inertial reference frames, along with the frame invariance of the speed of light, are the foundations of the whole fucking theory.
Graeme Bird,
OK, dude, I am a physicist. I have studied relativity–special and general. Time dilation has been observed even in air travel. What is more, GPS satellite signals have to be corrected for relativistic effects. As to the Dingle “refutation”, it is a product of the same inappropriate logic that leads to the Twin Paradox. The two observers each see the clocks in the other’s frame of reference running more slowly, and each sees length in the direction of motion foreshortened. Now if they get into an argument about it, and want to turn around and see which set of measuring devices is “right”, guess what, somebody has to decelerate and turn around, so they are no longer in an inertial reference frame.
Graeme, you are flat-assed wrong about this. If you were right, GPS satellites would not work. Now, an intelligent person might look at this and start to wonder what else he might be wrong about. For you, I won’t hold my breath.
Oh, this gets better and better. Apparently, Less-Brains-Than-a-Stuffed-Turkey believes in something called the “expanding Earth theory”, The Movement Of Continents Is Impossible Without New Matter Creation.
Birther. Truther. AGW-denialist. Physics kook. Geology kook. DDT-ban-caused-a-holocaust. Apparent anti-vaxxer. Has an entire blog dedicated to laughing at its stupidity.
First class idiot.
Do you see what happens when you all Godwin too many threads? The world Godwins you right back.
I have a lot of reading to do, I suppose, if I am ever going to figure out how a post about terrorism has erupted into a discussion of the nature of space-time…erg,
blf @ 503. Pure gold! If you go through that thread, you can see how he’s deleted whole comments and replaced them with more of his ranting.
This is my favourite comment so far from our new-found chew toy.
How on earth did this nutter get selected to represent a political party?
How on earth does a person like that get created? I have to think that at age 3 he wasn’t so sure that he was right in everything no matter what; maybe had a propensity for it, but how does such a thing get nurtured to the point that dirt, space, and time itself become unreal entities for him? Is it narcissistic personality disorder, or just too many gold stars on his homework by bored teachers who never bothered to read it, or what?
I want to compare old Graepants here to Gene Ray, as the simlarities in expression are numerous (minus the font creativity). But say what you will about that guy, at least he has a theory. Grae Grae has nothing but a collection of other people’s absurd contrarianisms.
There’s a mummy and a daddy and they… well, I’m not sure just what they do on a planet with pink skies, polka-dot clouds, and yellow oceans.
blf:
FFS. I’m not surprised in the least that Game Bird has fastened on to a notion which had some popularity in the ’50s. That might go some little way in explaining his complete lack of understanding or familiarity with what’s going on in the 21st century.
Graeme Bird: I believe that the Dingle Refuation was wiped away at the same time as the Klingon refutation. And, After reading the dingles and klingons you added to Pharyngula, all I can say is thank the FSM for toilet paper.
All: Don’t you wish you could go back to a 100 or 200 level college course and write a paper in Birdese: I will prove in this paper that Adolf Hitler won the American Civil War after dropping an atomic bomb on the Treaty of Versailles from a Goodyear blimp. And if you don’t believe me, look it up. But I won’t cite any statement. It’s not my job.
Ha! Now that’s stupid!!
Jars?????
AHHHH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!
that’s like the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard, man.
It’s vats.
Brains in vats. Everybody knows this (or at least intuits it).
Now, an intelligent person might look at this and start to wonder what else he might be wrong about. For you, I won’t hold my breath.
(heh. Jars. srsly?)
…
You know, when I go to bed, wake up, there’s 150 more comments from when I slept, and Bird is still posting, you know something is wrong with the world.
So, anyone curious about how much he’s posted?
He has posted from March 27, 1:53 p.m. up until March 28, 6:22 a.m.
He was sitting here trolling this blog for nearly 17 hours straight.
That’s more time than David Mathews, though granted with far less posts.
Anyone else looking forward to when the clownshoe comes back again?
It may be that I’m fresh from commenting on the God of War thread, but am I the only person who’s thinking about the terrorist group in Metal Gear Solid 2?
Admittedly, this man only _wishes_ he were that tough.
Ditto, Shala. At least I’m not longer drunk.
Apropos of nothing, really, but comment #508:
Totally reminded me of the Big Lebowski:
Shala @ 513
If he’s in Sydney, that’s a 15 hr difference between local time and the time posted on the blog, which means he started posting at some awful time in the morning.
OTOH, he seems to be a Kiwi by birth, so maybe he’s back in the Land of the Long White Cloud, which would give him an extra mumble mumble hours.
Anyway, the good thing about the internet is that you no longer have to make an effort to visit Bedlam. Bedlam comes to you.
I’m confused. Is it this Liberal Democratic Party? If so, they must be much more of a crazy fringe group than appears from the article. Though the article appears to have been written by a supporter, and only cites the party’s own website and the Electoral Commission website, so probably isn’t too reliable.
It may be that I’m fresh from commenting on the God of War thread, but am I the only person who’s thinking about the terrorist group in Metal Gear Solid 2?
He can twist logic around himself in an unbelievable manner, wants to be divorced from reality, people try to explain to him why logic should work on him, and then it turns out that no, he really had the power to warp logic around himself the entire time?
Well, at least he isn’t in love with Vamp.
Except that there was no American Civil War, Hitler was really Obama in disguise, the Treaty of Versailles was mistranslated and the correct version actually ceded France to Germany (which is why Obama, in his Hitler disguise, invaded), and whilst there were Goodyear blimps, they were only decoys. The atomic bomb was actually smuggled in by ninja penguins in a practice run for the twin towers attack. This is all fact. You can look it up. Do your research!!!1! You’re all clewless lying moorons.
blf: But have they produced the actual Treaty? Or have you just read about it through unreliable third parties? And I was incorrect: they were not Goodyear blimps. Blimps are flacid. Dirigibles are rigid. Therefore the aircraft in question were Savoia-Marchetti Marsupials. And where did the penguins hide the bombs? They must have been marsupial penguins using the Italian airplanes to fly Obama (under a different name (of course)) to . . . to . . .
Apparently, I’m either not ceative enough or not crazy enough.
Oh my FSM! There’s two blogs dedicated to Less-Brains-Than-a-Stuffed-Turkey’s nuttiness:
http://graemebirdforum.wordpress.com/
http://bigbirdbrain.wordpress.com/
Neither seems to be terribly active, albeit Less-Brains-… has commented at both. (And at quite a few other blogs, where, it seems, after being asked to backup his assertions and refusing to do so, he’s usually told to STFU and go away.)
iambilly:
Those weren’t penguins! They were stealth seagulls wearing penguin suits. The evidence for this is overwhelming, there’s simply no question about it.
I keep reading the name Graeme Bird as Graeme Green, the protagonist in the oddly readable scie-fi book, Dorsai!.
Caine: Then explain the Italian airplane called a “Marsupiale”? If you cannot explain that, then the goves do not fit over the birth certificate of live birth.
iambilly, everyone knows the Savoia-Marchetti SM.75 Marsupiale was a type of mutant flying squirrel covered with special tinfoil that was made in secret by members of the Illuminati. Sheesh. This is basic knowledge!
So, of course, as soon as I post the previous comment (about two blogs on Less-Brains-Than-a-Stuff-Turkey), I find someone has a LOLcats feed dedicated to Less-Brains-&hellip:
http://lol.ianloic.com/feed/graemebird.wordpress.com/atom.xml
And more nuttiness from Less-Brains-… itself, We Have Got To Get Rid Of This Bogus Doctrine To Do With The Conservation Of Mass And Energy. (The significant of the astericks is explained at the end by Less-Brains-&hellip: “*Asterisk borders denote that part of this post where the logic is unassailable. Anyone disagreeing with that part of this post is just being silly. The rest is mere opinion.”) This one is an absolute gem, so it is quoted in full:
None(?) of the comments, all(?) of which appear to have been heavily edited by Less-Brains-…, have anything at all to do with the above post.
Birther. Truther. AGE-denialism. A physic’s kook physic’s kook. Geology kook. DDT-bin-causes-a-holocaust. Apparent anti-vaxxer.
Field Marshall, Supreme Idiocy, with Extra Crazy and Clusters of Nuts.
My apologies to Pee Zed for filling up his blog, but this is a Crackpot straight from Central Casting.
Fools! You know nothing!
The top-secret Project Adelie is no myth. Nor was it “quietly abandoned” in the early 70s as some scurrilous reports would have it, but merely made more plausibly deniable while the work continued. In fact, it was only too successful, and when a breeding pair escaped in 1977 and established a colony, which was subsequently discovered accidentally by a BBC cinema crew in 2008, those “in the know” were disappeared–highly professional jobs every one, no messes to clean up. Oh, what, you haven’t heard about this in the MSM? The evidence is crytal clear; you could look it up if you weren’t so blinded by the bullshit you’re spoonfed by Reptilians and/or Matrixtenders.
Here is the smoking gun:
Get your fucking brains out of their vats and wake up to Quasi-Meta-Pseudo-Reality! Fools!!!
Caine: Describing and explaining are two different things. Don’t you understand the SCIENTIFIC METHOD?!?!!11??!//!/ Sheesh.
Sven DiMilo #512
No, silly Sven, it’s jars.
You fucking idiots don’t realize that it’s the PATRIOTS controlling the American government with nanomachines! Soon the flow of information will belong entirely to them!
DAMN THE PATRIOTS!
Sven: Um, they were chinstraps, not Adelie penguins. And your call yourself a, a, hmm. What do you call yourself?
Game Bird, quoted in 526:
*stares* Hahahahahahahahahahahaha. Oh my.
Shala:
I just sprayed diet caffeine free Wegman’s store brand cola on my keyboard. “Nanomachine” — what popped into my mind? Mork from Ork. Nano, nano.
I gotta lay off this caffeine-free diet stuff. Need real cherry coke.
Graeme Birdbrain is a guanophrenic.
I hope this word spreads throughout the intertubes as it is a perfect term for his ilk.
Jebus H Christ on a pogo stick. I haven’t seen a marathon Wahck-a-Loon session like that in ages! I started reading the thread last night and konked out around comment #400 – it was either that or end up with a severely bruised face from all facepalming after reading each one of BirdBrain’s posts. I cannot believe it’s an entire night of sleep later and he was STILL going at it for almost a 100+ comments! I’d almost admire his persistence – except it’s based on utter stupidity and a disturbing lack of touch with reality. Can PZ please triple lock the door before he comes back?
Typing fail: obviously I meant “Whack-a-Loon.” That’ll teach me to post before I’ve had my first cup of coffee.
Hah! Gotcha! That’s what they want you to believe. The BBC video is part of a massive coverup. Project Adelie never existed, except as a paper decoy.
The real work on the ninja penguins was done at Area [redacted] in Atlantis by the druids, working with the Dodos. This is a fact. You can’t refute it.
Do your research! You guys are all so inbred and lacking in curiosity you can’t even be bothered to pay poopyhead his tithing cheques!!!1!
iambilly:
I wonder if Game Bird is going to wander back here and take any of this stuff seriously. I’m rather torn as to whether that would be world class amusing or utterly terrifying.
‘Tis, you’re a nut. Mel Brooks is in on the conspiracy; didn’t you see Spaceballs? It’s vats, always vats, except very occasionally you might see yer odd domes.
This is my problem how? Do you imagine that I was consulted when the Government chose a secret code-name for its top-secret penguin-breeding-and-modification program?
they call me Mr. Tibbs!
iambilly #523
The protagonist in Gordon Dickson’s novel Dorsai! is Donal Graeme.
Graham Greene was somebody else.
Waaaaaaay back @ #408
It might be because a black man now actually holds some international power that freaks these types of loons out.
Always vats, eh? Then how do you explain this? Huh? HUH?
Sven, don’t ya know nuffin’? It’s jars. It always has been jars. And always will be jars. So get a brain.
Walton, yes it’s that Liberal-Democratic Party. Sad, isn’t it?
blf:
Myth or butterfly?
Caine:
If that happened, it would truly be world-class funny/scary/batshit crazy all rolled into one.
‘Tis:
I stand corrected. Actually, I sit corrected. I knew the name was familiar and I had the right book.
Graham Greene: The Quiet American, Our Man in Havana. D’oh!!!!
OurDeadSelves:
Perhaps he aware of the interconnectedness of the economies of the world and is worried that Obama is racking up debt trying to solve some of the problems Bush racked up debt to create and is thus concerned that our (the US’s) borrowing may impact Australia’s ability to borrow? And perhaps giant winged porcupines will fly out of my ass. Backwards. Either could happen.
Desertfroglet:
How can anyone explain Steve Martin?
‘Tis et al: Can we all just agree to call them containers and just get along?
I have better things to do than waste time arguing with a bunch of vat-denialists.
good DAY!
Comstock Lode: silver :: Graeme Bird: insanity
Expletive! You guys sank some serious shafts into that vein…and yet I wager you have yet to plumb its depths.
This is the best example of fractal wrongness I have ever read, even on this site which is continually beset by those who aim for the stars in that category. Obsecenity me with a household or otherwise mundane object.
I trust everyone noted that desertfroglet and I gave examples of brains in jars but that Sven DiFuckwad feller couldn’t be bothered to produce any evidence for vatted brains.
Herbert Dingle became similarly guanophrenic.
Sven:
How dare you! You are a jar-denialist and completely delusional. Jars are for brains, vats are for cloning. More headless Agnews must be made!
You lie! This is a fact. Do your research. You’re all idiots.
Could be, but I think you’re giving him way too much credit, especially since his only concern was that health care reform was going to bankrupt the US and not the rest of the world. He never mentioned the global impact of a total US financial collapse, he just jeered at us for being sheeple who don’t understand that 2+ trillion dollars OMG IS A LOT OF MONEYS!!!1!
But, then again, here I sit still trying to make sense of what he has said. Crazy is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results, so maybe I’m a nutter, too. :)
Well, it’s the wee hours here, so I must pick up my brain inna jar and retire for the night. I hope the bird flies back. He is the perfect storm of stupidity.
Josh, thanks for your kind words, I rea
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Vats. Funny you should mention vats. That’s where we grew your Dark Lord you know. He’s one of us, of course. But then all of you who’ve had your H1N1 “shots” know that by now. You’ve felt the thrill as the billions of Nanobamas™ coursing through your bloodstream came online, urging you towards a socialist, hive-like existence. You’ve felt the urge to listen to Fresh Air and Indigo Girls. You marveled as you began to find yourselves begging your “doctors” for ever more luscious, expensive, monkey-altering pharmaceuticals!
Ah yes, vats. The vats up here at PharmaCOM Orbital are full of so many interesting things. Plus the nuclear force really is little balloons compressed in the nucleus of atoms, what did you think?
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eo[i huh? Man, my head hurts and so does . . . nevermind.
You’re all deluded – everyone knows that brains come in boxes.
@547
Hmmm….
Is is wrong of me to find that sentence strangely arousing?
Or maybe I mean is it strange of me to find that sentence wrongly arousing?
Now I’m all confused.
Brains come from Igors. This is a fact! Group-thinking fools.
Civil disobedience: You’re doing it wrong.
otrame: Probably my typo got you going. That is my secret.
blf:
No no, only the best brains come from Igors. Igors deal in quality.
No, Igors are just the delivery system. Brains come from jars.
Beware of brains from Eyegors…
Wow!
so THAT is what crazy looks like, eh?
Sven, Desertfrog and Caine:
We could call them jugs (however that would invite a jaunt down R-rated lane and none of us want to go there, right?).
blf: The myths are the ones with powdery wings, right?
Carlie: Think outside the box. Or you can be like Senor Bird and think outside your brain.
OurDeadSelves: Ever notice that if they are trying to make a sum of money sound small, it is per year or month or even day (I did that while selling cars — sure 18k is a lot to spend on this beautiful fully equipped SUV but with your down payment (and what you owe on your current car) that’s only $330 a month (this was 20+ years ago so it was still lots of money). Or if they want the sum to seem large, it is suddenly spread out over a decade or more — sure it’s only $94 billion a year, but that’s $10 trillion over the next ten decades without even including inflation!!!111 And the funny part is it still works. Both ways.
Lord Draconius Whatever (ie — Pareidolius): Who, or what, are Indigo Girls (I’m showing my middle age here, I know (and culturally my age is damn near McCainian))?
Caine and blf: Are you sure an Igor is not a unit of measurement? “I have thrity seven Igors of brain in that there jug.”
Graham Green was an English author. Donal Graeme was the character in Gordy Dickson’s Dorsai!.
I confess, I was a full-on JFK conspiracy theorist for a while back in the nineties. It was after my divorce, and I was as close to homeless as I had ever been. I don’t know how those conditions tied together, but when I saw shit going on in the World that I couldn’t contain or control, I found comfort in the idea that PEOPLE WERE FUCKING WITH ME. It gave me a satisfaction to think that I was on to them, that I had it all figured out.
After a while, my heart mended, and I found my feet again, fell in love, got remarried, and grew out of it.
In the meantime, I did learn more about the US constitution and our government. I also learned to distrust bullshit, and to spot the difference.
Bird is not crazy, crazy. He’s probably just very lonely.
Nerd:
Igors not Igors! If your Igor isn’t from Uberwald, you’re in trouble.
daninorlando:
Oh, I wouldn’t be so sure about that.
This guy is so dumb that zombies would ignore him. Seriously, it’s insane.
Granted, what do you expect? He outright said “I don’t care what evidence he has, we should sue him to declare him ineligible because he’s black.” I’m paraphrasing, but only slightly.
Kinda glad the Bird was from Australia. There have been enough nuts that have come here and given Canada a bad name. I guess in Australia and Canada the nuts go on the internet to troll, while in the US they get elected to high office.
Überwald not Uberwald. You don’t even know the most basic things! You’re all sheeple!
No, dicks come in boxes.
Are you kidding? There are people like Bird out there! I’m staying right in here where it’s safe and predictable.
And never take a brain from an Eyeore – too morose.
Brains come in tanks
Dexitroboper: From my experience in the Army, treadheads don’t have brains, so brains cannot come in tanks.
You know I’ve seen a lot of nutters, this blog seems to attract them but I gotta say that the Bird is truly the Word in nutballing. I mean space-time, expanding earth, relativity… He may actually be the world’s kookiest kook, and he’s a fucking politician too! Huzzah!
I’ve been sworn at and I have not sworn back at you dead-heads and consensus-junkies. And I’m not swearing at you now.
But my blog is a fucking magnificent blog. Choc-full of ideas and speculations. Since I right these posts very quickly with a few beers after work, and seldom re-write, then there are many things that I would of course back away from. Should you wish to ask me whether I was “doubling-down” or not on some point or other, you can do so at my place.
But I’m not “doubling down” when it comes to the anti-scientifice idiocy of the big bang. The fundamentally religious nature of special relativity, or the fraudulent nature of the global warming racket ……. though this is not to say that the industrial CO2 may not cause SOME warming or indeed SOME cooling at our air pressure.
Morons/idjits opinions are not fact.
Ideas and speculations are not scientific unless exposed to verification by hard evidence. You don’t even offer soft evidence. Which is why you are a fuckwitted idjit loser.
And idjit loser fuckwit, my only question is why do you think we are at all interested in your losership bleatings?
Game Bird, I think you better check the label on your brain jar, ’cause I think you got the wrong kind of Igor. See if the label says Abby Normal.
“But my blog is a fucking magnificent blog.” =/= “I right these posts very quickly with a few beers after work, and seldom re-write, then there are many things that I would of course back away from.”
Dude, which is it? Is it fucking magnificent, or is it alcohol-addled slosh that even you yourself back away from?
“Even if global warming were a fraud, clean, sustainable energy would still be a good idea, environmentally and economically.”
The global warming racket is indeed a fraud. Some of it may be REFERRED PAIN. That comes from the specifically scientifically minded. Those who are scientifically minded who know the consequences and generalisations to do with THE EXPONENTIAL SERIES.
So we might talking about referred pain here. And understandable anxiety on the part of the authentically scientifically minded.
It is not the part of the scientifically minded, actual scientists, science workers, or posing public servants TO RIDE THE LYING TIGER.
Don’t think you can manipulate the public into doing good, by you lying to them.
DON’T….. TRY … TO-RIDE ….. THE LYING-TIGER.
Don’t delude yourselves that you can grab that tiger by the ears and control him and make him move in a straight line towards sensible goals.
Any attempt to ride the lying tiger and grab him by the ears is going to get a lot of people hurt, and then eventually yourselves when the lying tiger turns on you.
The peer reviewed scientific literature begs to differ fuckwit. The rest of you post is semantically null, meaning your are still an evidenceless fool. What a loser.
How many beers do you think Grame is on now?
Carlie, I’m going with alcohol-addled slosh.
Nope, not a dead head. Haven’t paid any attention to The Dead ever since Jerry Garcia died.
I’m going to say plenty. Then again, I could be RIDING THE LYING TIGER!
“Dude, which is it? Is it fucking magnificent, or is it alcohol-addled slosh that even you yourself back away from?”
The first. And part of the second. Its as I said it the first time. Its magnificent. But its written quickly. I’m not likely to back away from any of it in total. But if you nuance, ask me on my blog.
There was some stuff to do with global warming not long ago that I was taking an extremist and wrong position on. And I read it over I had to declare it outright wrong.
The idea that we would sponsor war in the Sudan is out of date entirely and pre-supposes a different financial position for the US and the West, and an entirely different war strategy. I’d back away from it now because it makes me look pro-war, when from about 2007 I’ve wanted to get all the boys and girls home(just for one example)
Epic thread.
And I can’t believe he actually used the word “sheeple”, apparently unironically (non-ironically?).
Hilarity.
Beers? I suspect something much more hallucinogenic…Tripping the light fantastic maybe….
Not an iota of cogency there…
And now, the musical number (seriously, does that sound like the first line of a llame Broadway musical number?).
With absolutely no supporting evidence, just an authoritarian’s say so.
I can think of many things from which you have already backed away: logic, evidence, rationality, sanity to name just a few.
Been to your place. Not impressed. If I want science fiction and fantasy, I’ll stick with Asimov, Herbert, Asprin, etc.
Please pick up a compy of A Brief History of Time. And read it.
For something to be a racket, they would need to be making shitloads of money (far more than any scientists makes). Denial is a racket an Exxon and BP and big coal are raking in the bucks. And they know that if the public understands the reality — that the consensus view among qualified researches is that AGW is hapening and it won’t be pretty — their gravy train derails.
Mr. Bird, I find you amusing and sad.
Oh look, RANDOM all CAPS.
Always a sign of a watertight argument.
It’s the ride lying tiger it’s the thrill of the fight,
Rising bile for the earth warming denier,
And the comments are all caps and though try as we might,
We will never get sense from that guyyyyyyyyyyyy, lying tiger.
“The peer reviewed scientific literature begs to differ……. ”
Now you are lying. And in fact if you were correct it wouldn’t make a stitch of difference because science is not about peer review, its about methodology, evidence, and reason.
Peer review is specifically a priesthood concept.
I actually think biology and chemistry are still in pretty good shape. Pretty much all the non-commercial sciences, with these two aside, are in quite a bad way at the moment, at least from my survey of them.
BWAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Alright, it’s just a matter of time before this fool is going to be sent to his peers at the Dungeon and then eventually become a regular here.
“Been to your place. Not impressed”
Well you got to sit down and read before you can stand up and judge.
Your education was insufficient. The problem was all your own.
Then cite the peer reviewed scientific literature, or shut the fuck up as the fuckwited idjit loser you are. Time to show real credentials, not loudmouth credentials…
Peer review is one of the things that keeps science honest. However from what I’ve seen of your rants and babbles, honesty is not one of your concerns.
*puts Iambilly on a list…*
There the fucwit idjit describes himself again. What a loser. One might think he would be getting the concept he is an idjit by now. If it wasn’t for the psychotic ego of the typical liberturdian…
Just remember that it’s imperative to wear valid pants while RIDING THE LYING TIGER.
Graeme Bird says “The fundamentally religious nature of special relativity, or the fraudulent nature of the global warming racket ……. though this is not to say that the industrial CO2 may not cause SOME warming or indeed SOME cooling at our air pressure.”
So vague, and yet, so wrong. So, Graeme, just why is the global temperature 288 Kelvins rather than 255 Kelvins if not the greenhouse effect. Martian Heat Rays?
And if you say it’s the greenhouse effect, then do you say CO2 is a greenhouse gas or not? If not,how do you explain the large chunks taken out of Earth’s outgoing infrared radiation right at the absorption lines of CO2? How can water be a greenhouse gas and CO2 not be?
And if CO2 is a greenhouse gas, why should it magically stop being one at 288 parts per million by volume?
Start with those. Got answers or do you only do vague assertions?
Peer review ensures that the public service science is dishonest.
See part of the problem is that the pecking order is all wrong. I found this in banking as well. The least sound from a management point of view held all the prestige. Its like that in science.
In science the cosmologists and physicists ought to defer to the philosophers. But the philosophers weren’t up to it. And the deference ran the other way.
A big problem in science right now is that Cosmology, Physics, Mathematics, and Statistics rules the roost.
The problem with this is that the Cosmologists and the Physicists are doing a crap job. And the mathematicians and Statisticians are tool-wielders. Its like putting the fellow who can hammer a nail in more surely and straighter then anyone else in charge of the architect.
Now in a better world the Physicist/Cosmologist would defer to the Philosopher. The Chemist would defer to the Physicist/Cosmologist. The biologist would defer to the Chemist.
But thats not how we ought to play it for the time being.
Since the Chemists, and the biologists have their act together, they ought to be the senior partner to the right of the physicists. And the philosopher, if some good ones can be found, ought to be the senior partner of the Physicist/Cosmologists
And everyone ought to consider the mathematicians and statisticians as important. But the “hired help” nonetheless.
Well, I do have a liberal arts education — you know, learning how to research and write.
Nerd of Redhead:
To port or starboard?
Seriously, fuckwits like this are why I blog pseudonymously (Bird: it means “under a fictitious name, especially a pen name.” See, we define our terms.)
Why?
Prove it from legitimate sources outside of yourself, or acknowledge you are a liar and bullshitter. Welcome to real science, where vague will get you skewered…
Bull fucking shit. Sophists like philosophers don’t deal, like you, with real evidence. They are losers, just like you, since they can’t handle reality either…
Quit being a total fuckwit, if you believe at all in the scientific method, philosophers are shown the door…
What a vague loser. Real and honest people aren’t afraid to be wrong. Only loser fuckwit idjits like you…
Graeme says, “Now in a better world the Physicist/Cosmologist would defer to the Philosopher.”
So, Graeme, you’ll have to remind me. What philosopher was it that predicted the cosmic microwave background–you know, the radiation that pervades the Universe and has a blackbody temperature of 2.7 Kelvins? Uh, you do know what a Kelvin is, don’t you Graeme.
Have you ever even taken a science class?
Don’t forget that RIDING THE LYING TIGER is not the same as setting GOATS ON FIRE !!!
“So vague, and yet, so wrong. So, Graeme, just why is the global temperature 288 Kelvins rather than 255 Kelvins if not the greenhouse effect. Martian Heat Rays?”
Horribly simplistic and completely wrong.
And yes. Despite your cruel and cutting ridicule its not all about back-radiation. It does INDEED appear that backradiation is a factor, but one of many, that may or may not be powerfully relevant AT OUR AIR PRESSURE.
Now here is another thing. This shadow of the valley of the curse of the lone paradigm that you are under!!!!!
Did you know that your model of reality, was not a model, of air temperature!!!!
Did you know that?
Your basic core model has NOTHING!!!! to do with air temperature.
Your basic lone paradigm, is a model, to do with black body SURFACE temperature.
Its a totally inappropriate model to be using to talk about air temperature.
WELL THEN AGAIN, NOT EXACTLY??????
Its not exactly an inappropriate model. No its not. I SAID it was. But thats not quite right.
You see your black body surface temperature model would be EF EYE EN EE fine, if it were just one model amongst a few. Because then you wouldn’t get mixed up between your model and reality.
Then you would not be labouring under the shadow of the valley of the cult of the lone paradigm.
No citation, so a Mother Fucking Lie. Either cite the peer reviewed scientific literature or shut the fuck up.
The rest of your post is semantically null proving nothing. What a loser. Which you prove with every post idjit fuckwit loser…
“Graeme Bird,
OK, dude, I am a physicist. I have studied relativity–special and general. Time dilation has been observed even in air travel.”
Its pretty simple. They lied. We know that from the difficulty with getting the freedom of information material.
Now another thing. Relativistic effects are fine. But its silly to accord those effects to
1. velocity differences, when all velocity is relative.
2. TIME DILATION when time itself is a derivative and not a primary concept.
So the effects are fine. But you have NOT found the reasons for them. You’ve got to get cracking pal. You are on the public tit. Find the real reasons for these counter-intuitive effects. I assure you they do not come from velocity alone, because …. velocity ….. is ……. relative.
And its not to do with TIME as such. Because TIME ….. well there is no such real thing as time is there.
So concentrate. Do the work. Solve the mystery.
Show conclusive evidence from sources outside of yourself or shut the fuck up. Welcome to real science…
Fuckwit, look up time corrections for GPS. Then shut the fuck up.
“No citation, so a Mother Fucking Lie.”
No no. Science has nothing to do citations. He was being horribly simplistic, and he was completely wrong.
You cannot just make “BACKRADIATION” the god of gaps, when it comes to gas temperature.
You certainly are unable to do this on the basis of a simplistic model to do with BLACK BODY SURFACE TEMPERATURE.
See the political science workers, have no executive guidance guidance outside of Chemistry and Biology. So the proper work isn’t being done. And the actual work is just rife with politics and turf warfare.
Sorry fuckwit loser, either you have citations to the peer reviewed literature, or you are liar and bullshitter. I speak as a 30+ year practitioner of science, compare to your fuckwittedness.. the rest of your post is semantically null, as expected from a fuckwitted liar and bullshitter. Keep up with your refutations. You are losing with every post loser…
“Fuckwit, look up time corrections for GPS. Then shut the fuck up.”
No no. You are just completely wrong. For one thing thing the relativists update their act on the fly. But putting that aside…..
Any counter-intuitive effects you see have got NOTHING to do with velocity per se ….. because velocity is always relative.
Nor have they got anything to do with tee eye em ee TIME. Because time is not a real thing.
So I cannot say that the GPS disproves special relativity. Because the science gangsters have already come up with their fudge factors. They were at first proved wrong. Now everything is smoothed over and they are proved right apparently.
But this is neither here nor there. The public servants are being paid on our time. They must find the REAL answers. Or they ought to be sacked.
Simple.
@ 607:
Of course they aren’t. You set the goats on fire while riding by on the lying tiger.
Then prove it with something other than your unscientific opinion, by citing the peer reviewed scientific literature. Or shut the fuck up.
See my first comment this post loser fuckwit idjit.
They have, your ideas, which are unscientific, are irrelevant to real facts and science. What an idjit fuckwit loser. Couldn’t even prove he could wipe his ass if someone gave him some TP. Total and utter loser.
There are buildings called “libraries”. They exist in pretty much any town or city – I’m sure they even have them in Australia. If you walk into one, they contain things called “books” which contain information of the type you seek. If the particular library doesn’t have what you are looking for, there are magical people who work there who go by the name of “reference librarians”; treat them well and they will get you any information you may desire. Sometimes their magic is so strong that they can obtain the material of your quest almost instantly, through a device called the “internet”. Sometimes the magic is more weak, and requires a few days to transmit, but then it is in an easily portable form (the aforementioned “book” or sometimes a “journal”) that you can take anywhere, even into the bathtub as long as you don’t drop it and get it wet. If you drop it and get it wet, you will upset the magic reference librarians and then they will not want to help you any more. Sometimes bringing them cookies helps.
“argument from personal incredulity”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Its a great one-liner isn’t it. The relativist abandons reality and goes headlong into a childish mathematics fantasy-land.
And you say, “HEY BUDDY. WHY NOT STICK YOUR STUPID HEAD OUT OF THIS CHILDISH, MATHEMATICS, FANTASY LAND…”
And the stupid, childish, fantasist comes back with………. wait for it ……..
” thats just the argument from personal incredulity na na-na na-na”
Get it together rainman.
You mathematicians/ Cosmologists/ Physicists /Fantasists are just public servants. You are not exempt.
You are not exempt from reason. You are not exempt from sound methodology. You are not exempt from the scientific method. You are not exempt from the laws of logic.
And you autistic nutball……..
… You are not exempt from budget cuts when the hard rain starts to fall.
No-one saved Mozart.
No-one saved Lavoisier
Who gonna save YOU? Rainman?
Nope fuckwit, they don’t have to do what you, the loser bullshitter idjit thinks. And I work in private industry. Which make you an even bigger loser…
Which you provide absolutely nothing of reason or sound methodology. The latter is found in the peer reviewed scientific literature…
Who is going to save your ass liar, bullshitter, fuckwit, loser, and total idjit…
(Sorry. They’re stuck in my head.)
Every autistic person I know can out-argue you with half their brain tied behind their back, you asshole.
Bird, I know I’ve asked you before, but I’m still so damn curious about all your interesting little conspiracy theories. In every single one of them I have to wonder the same thing. Who would stand to gain from obvious lies about such things?
I haven’t understood who stands to gain from your imagined “global warming racket” or “big bang lies” and I still don’t understand how you can imagine any of these lies happening on such a grand scale.
Do you understand that science thrives on change? The scientist who completely overturns relativity and our understanding of the space-time continuum would not hide his or her data, findings or reasoning. They would present it and become famous. They would get a Nobel prize and the large prize sum that goes with it. They could sell books by the boatload.
But instead you imagine them all standing around, twiddling their thumbs or slaving away in research labs earning relatively meager wages, while doing things they know are wrong – and while knowing that science stardom and wealth could be theirs if they just publish The Real Truth.
Why would they do that? Every single one of them…. What do they have to gain from acting like you seem to imagine that they act?
Wouldn’t “science gangsters” take the road that gives them the highest profit, not overworked obscurity?
Caine @615
but what has that got to do with happy monkeys? I’m so confused.
I love that you wrote that by using a computer.
Caine @615
but what has that got to do with happy monkeys? I’m so confused.
Reality and birdbrain are not congruent…
Right.
Well at least you support, by dint of your online name, a reasonable epistemologist.
But you know. He was not as fantastic as all that. If he were, he would have overthrown the whole superstructure.
But then thats not possible. Because if he were a type to overthrow the superstructure, then he wouldn’t have had a prominent job.
Its the same in economics you know. Austrian-economists complain about the great economist Milton Friedman. But if he had been so great as to reject the whole wrong superstructure, he wouldn’t have been prominent at all.
This fool knows nothing and I’m not going to waste my time. The title of the post is quite apt.
However, if anyone is interested in reality see here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tests_of_general_relativity
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status_of_special_relativity#Experimental_evidence
ITS A GIAGANORMOUS CONSPIRACY!!!!11!
Caine @615
but what has that got to do with happy monkeys? I’m so confused.
Ah, a totally content free post by the master of fuckwititry, idjiticy, and just plain stoopid. What a loser. Maybe if he ever offered real scientific evidence, instead of garbage which doesn’t come from his inane and insane opinion…
My 62nd birthday is later this week. If time isn’t real then can I go back to being 23 again? See, this summer there’s a big sailboat race that I can’t participate in because of my heart but if I were 23 again and with a good heart then I could do the Newport to Bermuda.
Birdbrain, as soon as you begin to understand your opinion is nothing but garbage, and you need third party verification for your idiocy, like say the peer reviewed scientific literature, you will have achieved a certain wisdom. Wisdom that you may find repugnant, but the rest of us refreshing…
We’ll save ourselves, thanks. I’m glad I got a college and graduate education so I can actually live in the real world. Oh, and mentioning you write while you are drinking beer does very little for your credibility. And speaking of game birds…*looks at Brittany spaniel on point* FETCH!
i. At least the Bird is slightly more consistent than the man I once argued with who tried to claim that time didn’t exists by quoting Einstein.
ii. Ah. “Physicists should defer to philosophers”. Funny. That’s what the guy above said. He also claimed that he understood physics better than me because he had a master’s degree. When pressed, it turned out that the degree was in psychology. Come to think of it, Graeme Bird, was that you? It was a few years ago and it was in Delphi Forums, but maybe you remember the ecstatic pain of getting a new orifice torn for you.
iii. Totally unrelated, but the American version of Thud spelt “Uberwald” as “Woooerwald” or similar. Some kind of odd error that occurred because of the umlauts, which is almost an example of metahumour, since that (in-universe) is the reasons why the Uberwaldians don’t use the umlauts since they tend to fall off and cause unexpected punctuation.
iv. I don’t really see a problem with riding a tiger. It is a lie that you can never get off, because all you need to do, see, is cap it one in the head first.
You know, I heard that ScienceBlogs installs a script on your computer when you sign in that takes all of the files from your hard drive and sends them directly to the FBI, who checks them for any evidence of concern about the validity of Obama’s presidency. If they find any, they show up at your house within 2 days to remove you and any trace you ever existed.
*sits back and whistles innocently*
Asclepias:
No, no, he rights. See Game Bird’s post at #577:
Graeme says, “But if he had been so great as to reject the whole wrong superstructure, he wouldn’t have been prominent at all.”
Oh, now this is classic–good ol’ Graeme is telling us that one’s brilliance is inversely proportional to one’s success. Sounds just like our homegrown kooks. You know Graeme, I used to work at a magazine with the word Physics in the title. Periodically, we’d get loons like you who’d show up saying they’d shown Einstein was wrong. I was the one they’d call down to talk to them. I’ve known lots of folks JUST LIKE YOU.
Hey, sport, did you know that Einstein predicted time dilation some 70 years before it was observed in airline travel?
Here’s one for you: The muon has a measured lifetime of 2.2 microseconds. That means that at near the speed of light it can travel about 600 meters before it decays. And yet detectors measure TONS of muons from galactic cosmic rays. Now how can that be if there is no time dilation, Graeme?
Changed my mind.
He is crazy, crazy.
Maybe even crazy crazy, crazy.
Not sure yet, need to see another 500 posts.
Keep ’em coming, I have plenty of popcorn.
“At least the Bird is slightly more consistent than the man I once argued with who tried to claim that time didn’t exists by quoting Einstein.”
That is a great way of making the case. Just as PZ is not to be thought of as moronic as his groupies. so too Alfred was never as otherworldly as his sycophants.
Your man, almost definitely trashed you in this argument. Your opponent won that argument no question.
You know that show? Everyone loves Raymond?
Well the fact is everyone loves Albert. Me as much as anyone. But he’s not a good example for the kids. Neither was Ali? Ali dropping his guard. Dancing around. Ali can DO THAT? Ali can get away with that.
But in the real world with a great coach anyone else drops their guard and the coach slaps the champs face. Faster then that. Night follows day coach slaps champ.
Johnny Famechon right up there amongst the best. He drop his guard even for a fraction of a second Ambrose slap his face.
I was a swimming coach and I’d never let the kids swim freestyle like Phelps.
“Periodically, we’d get loons like you who’d show up saying they’d shown Einstein was wrong. ”
Yes of course you did. And you must keep getting them unto the end because he was in fact WRONG.
Nice man and all that. Creative genius and all that. But you thickhead. You moron. You dim bulb. You idiot.
Of course until the end of time you will always get anyone sensible writing in to point out to you the obvious.
Now you are a moron mate. Just get used to your status. You are part of the public service moron-brigade, science-boy 101 maffia.
You are just an idiot mate.
I for one am righting to the maffia write now
This is most fascinating. Wait, what was that other thing? Tedious. Idiot Boy says “I’m right”, someone else says “No, this is what actually happened”, provides evidence, Idiot Boy says “No, I’M right”.
Do you people understand what is going on now.
Always. Until the end of time. Or “time” if you please, kids smarter then what you will ever be, will point out the obvious. That Einstein had it all wrong. And why? Because he did have it all wrong.
Same with Keynes. But Keynes really never understood economics, whereas Einstein was a great physicist, but not even and epistemologists momma.
Obviously if someone is wrong and CLEARLY wrong, and the science maffia is too stupid to admit it, then every generation of smart kids, until the end of time, will point this out.
YOU WON’T FOOL THEM YOU WILL ONLY DESTROY THEM.
You cannot cheat them you can only stop them.
Public service moron brigade.
Bully-boy maths-and-stats 101.
Bully-boy advocates of the intellectual status quo.
But you see we needed NATURAL PHILOSOPHERS. And instead we get fucking aggressive and belligerent versions of fucking Rainman.
Golly, Graeme, in your hurry to back out the door insulting me, you forgot to answer my question about the muons. Oh, and Graeme. I’m not relying on 2nd hand info, bud. I’ve measured them myself.
So, got an answer, clownshoe?
You really don’t understand what it means to provide evidence, do you?
Dim Bulb
Notkieran
Blockhead.
No it wasn’t me dummy. But its time for you to realise that when it comes to this sort of debate you would always have been whipped, and you don’t have a pot to piss in.
Because Einstein, like many geniuses before him, WAS WRONG. Get used to it you fucking moron. Dingles’refutation is total.
Before the science maffia descended on wiki we had maybe twenty verified examples of light speed being whipped. Being thrashed. With superior speeds like Phar Lap at a donkey derby.
Just live with it. It makes Albert now smarter or less smart. He just happened to be wrong on these matters. And sometimes even your dear leader KIM is wrong.
You fucking moron.
Okay lets get back to basics and I’ll try and stop swearing. Science is not about the cult of personality.
Its not.
You might think it is but its not.
I’m sorry you had to hear it from me but its not.
ITS NOT!!!
Got that finally? You dummy?
Science is about methodology, reason, and CONVERGENT evidence.
There is NO ROOM for the cult of personality in science.
Graeme says, “Nice man and all that. Creative genius and all that. But you thickhead. You moron. You dim bulb. You idiot.”
Oh, and Graeme, look up verbs:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verb
They’ll revolutionize your writing–at least when you’re sober.
This is a really interesting mix between Time Cube, Dennis Markuze and the from A Total Awareness…
wtf?
Fllowed this lunacy for too long now – is anyone else here thinking poe?
In Aussie we would term a poe a shit-stirrer, and I am getting a strong whiff of a brown stained paddle.
Evidence is for sissies. Our Graeme ain’t no sissy.
“Golly, Graeme, in your hurry to back out the door insulting me, you forgot to answer my question about the muons”
You idiot. Don’t you know that everyone goes with the muons?
You blockhead. If you have to go subatomic, with alleged theoretical entities, then clearly you don’t know shit from shinola.
Why not give me a BIG THING example?
Because you don’t have one.
Because you are full of shit and you are wrong.
We need to find the real answers. And you public servant house niggers are just getting in the way.
Now Einstein is a much more benevolent figure then Kim. But don’t goose-step to him man.
Good grief, Graeme. Do you know Dennis Markuze? You two would get on like a goat on fire.
I can’t believe that you are gainfully employed. You are devastatingly stupid, have severe anger management problems and have great difficulty constructing a coherent argument.
If you are, in fact, employed, please tell me what sort of job lets you to drink to excess during work hours and also allows free access to the internet. I’m retired, but damn, I’d like to sign up for that job.
Oh my goodness. Teh Bird has descended into word salad. Give it up, Bird. Come on over and help me make a complete, balanced meal. I gotta box of Stove Top with your name on it.
Wow, he even knows more about swimming than the guy who won more Olympic swimming medals than anyone else ever has! Truly, Bid is a Renaissance Man.
desertfroglet:
It wouldn’t work, you’d make sense. That makes you overqualified.
Look at his blog. This boy’s the real deal.
You win, Bird. You cannot be argued with.
All counter-arguments are the products of minds deluded by the lies of the establishment. Any counter-evidence is totally fabricated.
You are the expert in all things. Anyone who disagrees is an imbecile or a liar.
You cannot be argued with. Enjoy your mastery of the universe, much good may it do you.
Caine @ 657
But excessive drinking could fix that! I’m willing to give it a go.
Nice.
Now we know for sure that all of his anger is based on the simple fact that a black man is the President of the United States. How sad, that it all comes down to skin color for him. It really hurts to know that there are black people who are smarter and more successful than you, doesn’t it, Bird? And not just black, but half-black, probably even worse as far as you’re concerned. Think about it for a few minutes, Graeme. You couldn’t even win a tiny little local election, and there a black man went and won the election of an entire country. That’s got to burn. I bet it keeps you up at night, doesn’t it? Knowing that under all your bluster, you’re less talented, less popular, less successful, less of a man than that Obama guy. And everybody knows it, including you. I bet that really hurts, deep down. How sad and pathetic for you.
LOL.
Ah yes, Alfred Einstein!
<giggle>
Just before you “pampered slaves” get me on the potentially disrespectful phrasing.
You can search all you want. But you will never find me accusing anyone with so much as a good tan, or olive skin, as being a “house-nigger”. Its a phrase I took from Malcolm X.
The better formulation, less open to misunderstanding, is pampered slave.
This better phrase was formulated by one of the great hero’s of mine. Alan Keyes. The best impromptu speaker anyone has seen in decades. The best political speaker since Reagan left. Washington.
See you’ve got to promote the best people. Keyes the natural statesman, were he NOT President, which he ought to have been after Reagan…… He should have been part of any good team.
But you wouldn’t give him credit. So what did you do? You let yourself get gypped by the “Long-legged Mac Daddy”
Alan Keyes’ phrase is “pampered slave”. Thats what I should have said. Being as I am amongst strangers, who may wish to misrepresent me.
Hmmm, and he’s a great physicist. He makes a good case for the expanding Earth : http://graemebird.wordpress.com/2009/02/23/expansion-by-way-of-stretch-marks/
Oh, and the Big Bang is a conspiracy by socialists…
Ok Bird, it’s bedtime for me, but before I go I have to attempt to ask one more time. What would the “science maffia” have to gain by lying about special relativity and so on, if it is so obvious that they are wrong? How would that possibly benefit them?
Coming up with new things, revolutionizing how we look at the world, is what’s good for scientists. If people spend all their time working to “maintain the status quo” science doesn’t get done.
And if it is because, as you say, “the science maffia is too stupid” – how do you explain that science, you know, works?
You say that it is obvious to people in general that they are wrong. So if scientists are not lying (against their own self interest!) they must be more stupid and less informed than people in general. They must be utterly incapable to figure anything out.
But you still sit there with a nifty computer, right now, proving to you that science works. You can use a GPS receiver and see how well it works despite all the “bogus relativity theory” employed in GPS-systems. If you’re rich enough you can become a space tourist. In all aspects of life you can see the rapid development of technology – all based on the work of those scientists you distrust so much.
In short, science works. So what is it? Are scientists too stupid to work out something that is obvious to everyone else, but smart enough to launch GPS satellites and design nuclear facilities?
Or are they (for some so far completely unexplained reason) acting against their own best self-interest, keeping the lid on the whole relativity conspiracy?
Please explain your conspiracy theory. I am so curious. Every good conspiracy theory requires not only a notion about a conspiracy going on, but also some sort of real or imagined motivation for those conspiring against you.
What would the scientists’ motivation be? Why are they conspiring against you? You say that they bully you, that they are a “maffia”, that they are performing a racket… But why? What would they stand to gain from that? You must have some idea, so please enlighten me. I’m sure it will be most illuminating. Or at least entertaining.
Yeah, you really don’t get to do that, actually.
They hahahahaha are not conspiring against me???
hahahaha. Look they are just blockheads mate? Like you are?
Why are you asking me? Its only your own behaviour writ large?
What is needed is a little bit of navel gazing on your part. I cannot answer these questions for you because I don’t identify with you, I half identify with PZ, I don’t identify with Singer, though I see his technical ability…..
…. So you’ve got to ask yourself pal. The answer cannot come from me, because I’m part of some goose-stepper ball, claiming that the emperor has clothes.
All you have to do is extrapolate your own attitudes and habits and you will see how this parade of dumb continues.
Can you do that?
Are you capable of that?
Are you capable of that at least?
Ask not for whom the stupid-bell tolls. It tolls for thee.
“Ask not for whom the stupid-bell tolls. It tolls for thee.”
I’m totally stealing that, BTW.
I’m all out of popcorn.
Graeme Bird, will you please starfart and be done with it?
Bloody hell.
In that case, I substitute “poe” with “loony bigot”.
242 fellow Aussies were deluded enough to vote for this crackpot – we’re doomed I tells ya, DOOOOOOOOMED
No, you are fuckwit. Your opinion is worthless. What an egotistical fool you are.
That is for loser woomeisters like yourself. Reality is for scientists, and adults. Which leave you out cricket.
No, it tolls for you regularly. After all, I can cite the scientific literature to back up my claims. You cite nothing but your inane, insane, and totally unwarranted opinion. What an idjit fuckwit loser.
“Yeah, you really don’t get to do that, actually.”
Is that so?
Well fuck-you too idiot now up above I said this except for what is now in capitals:
“The answer cannot come from me, because I’m NOT part of some goose-stepper ball, claiming that the emperor has clothes.”
Maybe if we repeat to him often enough how there are lots of black people who are smarter than him and make more money than he does, it will happen. Hey Bird, there are also lots of aboriginal Australians who are smarter than you.
Game Bird:
Aaaaand there’s the reveal. There’s the reason every birther and teabagger is just so gosh darned upset. There’s an uppity black man in a position of power, dammit! Will no one ride to the
lynching partyrescue?Disgusting. Loathsome. Pathetic.
No, you are simply a delusional fool with an ego bigger than his intellect. We know that. That makes you a fuckwit loser idjit until you decide, at this blog, to shut the fuck up. Which you should have done days ago, if your super inflated ego wasn’t in the way of your minuscule intellect…
“The answer cannot come from me, because I’m
NOT part of some goose-stepper ball, claiming that the emperor has clothesan idiot who has no idea what I’m talking about.”Oh, it gets better http://graemebird.wordpress.com/2009/11/11/the-pyramids-and-the-post-quaternary-catastrophe-cannabilisation-of-the-capital-goods-of-a-technologically-superior-civilisation/ :
And Sasquatch is Homo Erectus…
http://graemebird.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/sasquatch-predjudices-live-on-long-after-the-evidential-picture-has-changed/
Ladies and gentlemen, I think we are approaching a Timecube rating of 1.
That’s an achievement all of its own.
Congratulations, sir! World-class crazy.
So, I was passing by the computer again when I suddenly thought of a conspiracy theory of my own. And since I’m always amused by conspiracy theories, I thought that I had to share.
I think that the teabaggers are paying Bird. I think they hired him to derail conversations like this.
The conversation starts with “Tebaggers promote terrorism!” and then Birdie boy swoops in with “I don’t know Obama’s old girlfriends! Liberals are lying to us about special relativity! Time doesn’t exist! I will make these assertions but not in any way explain where I get my information from – if you ask for evidence you are idiot sheep!” and everyone goes “Uhm… What?”
Ta-da – attention successfully diverted from teabagger terrorists. Rather ingenious. I hope they pay him well, because he seems to be really working hard!
Ah, the sasquatch shit. Still no body from the hunters and loggers in the area, but they did find a WWII era plane. Something isn’t adding up. Like the lack of bones, and the exposure of known fakers of tracks and movies…
Not impossible. He admits he is a propagandist:”You see how you are fighting a losing battle with skilled propagandists such as myself out there?
I’ll get all the foreigners on my side and then the new thinking will filter back into the English-Speaking world and become hardened dogma.”
My Blog Is a Fucking Magnificent Blog
A Broadway Musical by Graeme Bird
“Choc-full of ideas and speculations!”
– Graeme Bird, Author
Wait, I thought time didn’t exist?
Caine @#674:
The trouble is that after the reveal there is no prestige
Bird actually thinks the man trashed me in a physics argument? He thinks that a man with no training in physics trashed me?
I mean, it’s not like I know anything about physics, apart from having a degree in it and teaching it for a living.
Oh. Wait. I don’t actually have any proof do I?
I don’t have a degree certificate. I have a certificate of my degree.
Kagato #682,
LMAO!
Y’know, Graeme Bird is right that a exceeding a certain barrier is not necessarily physically impossible. Trouble is, that barrier is 1.0 Timecube.
So sorry, thread closed for excessive length. Have no fear, fresh thread is available.