You asked for it, I deliver. Here’s a good chunk of the opposition email that I’ve received in the last two days; not quite all of it, though, since I got bored and a lot of it has just been going straight into the trash. I’ve tried to cut out most of the identifying names and so forth, but if I missed a few…tough.
Trust me, it’s very tiresome to read.
I know you are smarter than most people and probably even God himself, if you even believe in God. But you could learn something in humility. And there is nothing wrong with a Catholic standing up for his faith. In fact, a Catholic who doesn’t defend his faith is an ignorant Catholic. Mr. Donohue defends the Catholic faith and deserves praise from all Catholics. I bet your one of those tolerant professors who shows tolerance to everything but Christianity. But I am sure your are proud of bashing the Catholic faith.
I can definitely score a Eucharist for you. You may not care for the taste though, but then again I don’t care for your moronic position regarding the desecration of the Eucharist. Would you be bold enough to take this type of childish stance if it were involving a sacred Muslim object/ I’d bet cash money that you wouldn’t as folks like you hide in the insulated academic world, as you are too frightened and inept to work in the corporate world where one is paid and advances based on performance, not liberal childish rants. Where do you want me to send it?
The Catholic League is going after your job because you are a vile anti-
Catholic bigot who really does deserve to pay a high price professonally for
such a public act of contempt for the Catholic faith of tens of millions of
your fellow countrymen. I intend to write to your University and support the
call for disciplinary action against you (and encourage all my colleagues to do
likewise) for misusing your University’s resources to express hatred and for my
faith. You are confusing free speech for hate speech and the U. of Minnesota
would do very well to help you see the difference, since you have given every
sign of lacking the emotional, social and intellectual resources to make such
an elementary distinction.
IF Catholics had half the testosterone of muzzies, the answer would be simple. Holy hollowpoint. But alas, I expect they will whimper and grovel as usual.
I am sure you are a very intelligent man and that is why it surprises me that you would find the time to spew such vile anti-catholic bigotry about something held sacred in a religion of over a billion people. Surely you have more valuable things to do with your time than hate filled blogs about the Holy Eucharist. I wont waste a lot of my time or your time trying to change your mind through a debate. All I can say is please refrain from hate filled blogs. It makes what is supposed to be an intelligent person look very small minded. Keep hope as I’m sure you are being prayed for.
just read that you are looking to desecrate the Eucharist. It’s great to know that America’s institutions of “higher learning” have gifted folks like you teaching future generations. Sometimes I worry about whether or not our schools and universities are filled with a bunch of whack-jobs spewing nothingness into the minds of our young. I need not worry any more…with “professors” like you, Mr. Myers, I know we are in great shape.
God help us (us includes you).
PS – I find it rather funny that so many people are incredibly tolerant (nice buzzword) until they feel offended. Then all tolerance goes out the window.
So, would you really do something like that? Really? I can only suppose, then,
that you also wouldn’t mind defecating on a Buddha in a temple, or urinating on
a Torah while it’s still in its Ark, or maybe you’d go for stuffing a Koran
down a toilet and flushing. Were you the kind of brother that would tear off
the head of your sister’s favorite doll? – or step on one of your
mother’s favorite plants? I saw your picture on the university’s website
and you look like a pretty even-tempered man. You don’t look like a man that
would do what you described above, let alone say it. What happened man?
Seriously – what happened?
You should be nicer in what you say and do to people and to the things those
people hold dear. If you don’t have anything good to say – don’t say anything
Why are you such an insensitive man? Do you think you’re funny? Your comments hurt a lot of people-but don’t worry-we’ll pray for you!
Hey Mr. Critical, I dare you to do something to desecrate Islam. -Oh thats right; they are not passive like Christians and a loud mouth Jerk like yourself would get jihaded. My guess is your principles stop when it gets scarry!
I’ll be looking for you’re new “Islam Posting” you pussy. I don’t think you have the balls though!
Take a good look in the mirror-is there a soul in there? I sure hope you find it.
You couldn’t help yourself! Pay the tax payers for your advertising!
You are another fine example of good education dollars gone to waste…..I hope your resume is up to date, because after your latest diatribe regarding the Eucharist, you are going to be out of a job. Good riddence.
is it so easy to acquire academic status at this seat of learning (UMM) that the acquisition to Professor be given to the one least fitting?
I refer you to Prof Paul Zachary Myers and his alleged remarks regarding the Eucharist, or Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Christ, Son of the living God.
I do not know the professor but if I am to understand his mental state he considers the Eucharist merely a ‘Frackin Cracker’?
If this be the case why would an alleged intelligent person (supposed) become so enraged over a ‘Frackin Cracker’?
This Prof lectures in Science and Mathematics and if he said those things that would hardly be Scientific or Mathematical.
For instance he could have responded by saying what is the Mathematical odds of the Eucharist being what it is claimed to be?
Or he could have said those Christians are not very Scientific in their beliefs and he could have acted in a more mature fashion.
He chose to do neither of these but apparently flew off at a ‘Tangent’ and became quite un-scientific in what he would or would not do to a small ‘host’, and before photographers as well.
Is he that un-stable and lacking in attention that he would resort to childish behaviour without regard to his faculty or the example set to his students?
I say again the standard set for academic heads in this university needs to be addressed.
Perhaps Mr Myers has deep seated animosity toward Christians and somehow seeks redress for his earlier years as a Jewish person (assumed) growing up in the wrong neighbourhood?
If that is the case then Christians everywhere apologise and assure him we do not hate Jewish people but love them as elder brothers and sisters in Christ.
We would like him to reciprocate in kind and give up the hatred that drives him to say such things against the only person in the Universe that really loves him, and that is Christ.
He will understand the immensity of that love being in the science faculty. Regards
Paul, why are you persecuting Me?
We will be praying for you and for your conversion in reference to your “It’s a Frackin’ Cracker!” comments.
Perhaps Prof. Myers should try desecrating the Koran next time … or perhaps you should censure him, and let him know that 21st century people don’t go bashing other folks religious beliefs. What Prof. Myers problem is … drinking too much, or just he just like bullying soft targets … as his boss you need to address the BIG BLACK EYE he just gave your school … nationwide! All Catholic kids would do well do avoid your campus until you resolve this issue.
I know that you are just acting out because you are spending your career at a fourth tier university (wasn’t the community college hiring?) Would you go to a Mosque and eat a ham sandwich? No of course not, because you are a typical whiny college professor. Are you upset because your boyhood priest didn’t show you any love?
As a Catholic professor in theology I am deeply sadden by your comments. If this were said about the Muslim Koran or the Jewish faith the media would be all over you and you would lose your job. But not if you attack the Catholic Church. Your University turns a blind eye. Shame on them.
What do you have against Catholics and our faith to make you say such harsh and evil things?
I am a believing Catholic and saw the statements about the Eucharist you posted at 10:40 a.m. today (July 10, 2008) on the Pharyngula website (“It’s a Frackin’ Cracker!”). I found your e-mail address on the University of Minnesota’s web page, Dept. of Biology.
You trample one of the very dearest beliefs of Catholicism in brutally offensive terms, and you propose heinous sacrilege. I was very sorry to read that and earnestly hope and pray that you will not follow through on your desire to commit sacrilege with a consecrated Eucharist.
It is profoundly disturbing that you are in a position of authority over students most surely including Catholics, Orthodox, Episcopalians and other Christians who believe in the real presence of Christ in the Eucharist.
As I’m sure you are now aware one of your staff members, Paul Myers, has publicly made remarks that are extremely offensive to the sensibilities of all Orthodox and Roman Catholics:
I understand that Prof. Myers has the constitutional right to speak his mind on whatever issues he feels compelled, however as a staff member of your university it is my understanding that Prof. Myer is expected to adhere to code of conduct that fosters respect and civility towards people of all backgrounds and beliefs:
Prof. Myers comments have clearly gone beyond any reasonable dialog and I don’t think it would be too much of a stretch to say that they constitute hate speech.
I am not asking for any specific action on your part, as I trust that you will know best how to ensure that the values of tolerance and civility are being fostered at your University. However, I did want to ensure that you were aware that these comments were made and that they are being associated with University of Minnesota on a national level:
Dear President Bruin:
It appears that Professor Paul Z. Myers is either insane or, if there is a difference, a rabid hater of the Catholic Church as he has publicly (With ID as one of your teachers) stated that he will publicly desecrate the Holy Eucharist in the form of a consecrated communion host.
If he is generally against religion, I suggest that he show the courage of that position by publicly using a copy of the Koran to wipe his behind. If he plans to do so, please let me know so I can give prior notice to the Muslim communities in your State AND recommend to a mathematics instructor I know to apply to fill the sudden vacancy of Dr. Myers’ position.
Unless Dr. Myers is severely disciplined I would recommend to the University of Wisconsin, Marquette University and all other schools that they do NOT accept credit transfers from your school as to serious doubts as to the quality of instruction there.
I do not wish to remove your cranium from your backbone.
I do not know what drives you to be an intolerant hypocrite of an Atheist.
But I would be happy to press charges of committing a “hate crime.”
Do not stand in line for the Eucharist in my parish; I would be sure to prevent you from committing a heinous desecration
How did you ever get hired? You sure won’t get tenure, and don’t deserve it. I’m writing to the President for what its worth.
I urge you to stand up against the hate-filled “professor” Paul Zachary Myers, and the University President Robert Bruininks for allowing Mr. Myers to spew hateful Anti-Catholic tirades that can be accessed directly from the U of M’s web site. I EMPLOR YOU TO STOP GIVING ANY MONEY TO THE UNIVERSITY UNTIL MR. MEYERS IS HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR HIS BIGGOTRY!
Here is an excerpt of his July 8 post, “It’s a Frackin’ Cracker!” accessed from the U of M website:
“Can anyone out there score me some consecrated communion wafers?” Myers continued by saying, “if any of you would be willing to do what it takes to get me some, or even one, and mail it to me, I’ll show you sacrilege, gladly, and with much fanfare. I won’t be tempted to hold it hostage (no, not even if I have a choice between returning the Eucharist and watching Bill Donohue kick the pope in the balls, which would apparently be a more humane act than desecrating a goddamned cracker), but will instead treat it with profound disrespect and heinous cracker abuse, all photographed and presented here on the web.”
If any professor denigrated and insulted homosexuals, Muslims, threatened to desecrate the Koran, or insulted Martin Luther King in this way you would have an all-out riot on your hands. However, as usual, it seems to be open season on Catholics with no consequences.
Paul Myers is a buffoon with zero intellectual qualities and has no business on your University’s staff. If you don’t believe me just check out the level of immaturity and stupidity he displays on his blog.
I read your blog about the consecrated host being a “frackin’ cracker”, and criticizing, objecting to a position the Catholic League took against a student at the university of Central Florida.
Needless to say, as a devout Roman Catholic, I join with thousands of others who were very offended by your remarks. I believe that the “frackin’ cracker”, as you so cleverly referred to the Sacred Host, is the Body of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ consecrated by a priest at Mass under the appearance of a wafer of unleavened bread. This is my faith and that of millions of other orthodox Catholics. You have offended us grievously. If you have such apparent regard for the sincere faith of others, I challenge you to publish a similar disparaging remark about the Koran or other sacred beliefs of Islam, or for that matter any other religion.
I demand that you publish an apology for your offensive remark.
I pity the students who pay good money to go to college and have to listen to your arrogant diatribes against whatever subject you loathe. How totally immature and pathetic.
Would you be so brave as to use such hate-filled rhetoric against the MUSLIM tenets? I doubt you’d want a jihad launched against you for your FREE SPEECH which many Catholics in the service died giving you.
Wow PZ that’s quite a rant! Your temper is getting the best of you? As an asso professor, what a lesson you teach our children: hate, religious bigotry, intolerance, shouting instead of discussion, use of innuendo w/o facts, etc.! You must really hate Catholics.
“Scumbags” and “which hunters”? I thought liberal intellectuals were tolerant – even of those they disagree with.
Just because you’re a devout and zealous atheist (I see your blog site http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/) doesn’t mean you have to HATE and offend all Catholics. Can you not be “respectful, fair and civil”.
Yesterday almost no one outside of the narrow confines of Minnesota academia had ever heard the name of Paul Zachary Myers. But today the name rings with infamy, and has become synonomous with hatred and intolerance. You might have gained renown for some tremendous scientific breakthrough, or for touching the minds and hearts of your students. Instead you have become notorious for your ignorance and your bigotry. Your story, Paul, is truly tragic.
If you are not Catholic than you have no reason to publicly opine about the doctrine of Eucharistic transubstantiation. You certainly have no right to parade your ignorance and sacrilege via a link to the university’s web page. If you had so publicly mocked the culture of blacks, Muslims, homosexuals, or Jews than you would be (rightfully) without a job today. But since you picked on Catholics and their beliefs, you probably feel that you are professionally in the clear since it is very fashionable in the academic sphere to trash Christianity in general and the Catholic Church in particular.
As a Jew who has been baptized a Catholic I can say I am no stranger to either anti-Semitism or to anti-Catholicism. Both lead to the same conclusion, Paul: the perpetrators become lesser human beings.
Shame on you for abusing your academic pulpit in this way. I pray that the university authorities will handle your case with wisdom and with justice.
Paul, you have some bridges to build after this terrible misdeed. Make amends, and stop hating for hate’s sake.
Myers: How about dropping your ignorant, immature, hate-filled, bigoted stunt? If you do desecrate the Body and Blood of Christ, you are playing with fire, and you will regret it eternally. I know how people like you laugh at and scorn people like me, but I’m afraid God will get the last laugh on this one. GOD IS NOT MOCKED. Because I’m Catholic, I have to pray for you, and I will, but in the end, you’re the one with free will to accept or reject Jesus. Good luck–you’ll need it.
I am writing to express my outrage at Professor Myers’ expressed intention to desecrate a consecrated Host, an object held sacred by Roman Catholics. Yes, we all know by now that the professor holds all religion in utmost contempt — he’s made that clear enough to the general public. However, what he is asking for on his blog post goes beyond the pale. As American citizens who enjoy the right to the freedom of religious expression, Catholics should also have the right to be free from this sort of harassment against our faith, especially from a professor who is paid with tax dollars, tax money which we Catholics also contribute.
From his latest posting, he’s obviously feeling like he’s rather immune from any sort of consequences. If that turns out to be true, then I will be deeply disappointed. Obviously, there isn’t much I can do. I won’t threaten him because such threats would be empty and stupid (and those who have threatened him should be ashamed of themselves). I can’t say I’ll boycott paying my taxes as the State wouldn’t appreciate it. However, I can call on those who are in authority to exercise that authority appropriately and to at least reprimand him for what should be easily recognized as truly outrageous behavior.
I seriously doubt that he would ask someone to get him a Koran from a mosque or a copy of the Torah from a synagogue in order to publicly desecrate them since, after all, they’re only pieces of paper with ink on them. Asking for the Koran would probably bring him and the U of M physical harm. Asking for a Torah would bring a swift lawsuit from the ADL. Right now, all he’s getting is a public scolding from the Catholic League and some nasty e-mails. Therefore, I hope the U of M sees this for what it is — a serious offense against Catholics — and takes appropriate action.
I honestly pity the hatred that you seem to embody. Anybody that did threaten you or was hateful was absolutely wrong….however one cannot but pity the sadness, anger and frustration that is clearly evident in the way you write. It truly would not take a psychologist to see how toxic to you your own poison actually is!!
I am not sure what form of education gave you the licence to speak the way you do or made you think that “you’re it”, however, truly you would do yourself an immense favor (probably more than anybody else), if you at least minimized the amount of trash you spew and the ignorance you portray in so doing…. Truly there is no limit to stupidity!
As a Catholic I forgive you. May God bless you and enlighten your mind.
What a sad, pathetic man you are. You were raised a Christian – why all the hatred and name calling? What did we ever do to you to make you hate us so much? As a taxpayer who’s helping pay your salary I’m entitled to have a say over vitriol posted on a public site that rips into me and my beliefs.
I want to tell you how disgusting your blasphemy is to me as a Catholic and as a UMM grad.
I have asked to be removed from any further contact with UMM and will never give another dime towards any alumni support or scholarship support. It is quite interesting how you who are amongst the most liberal denigrate and blaspheme that which you know nothing about and criticize that which is sacred and holy.
I just read the July 8, 2008 rant by Prof. Myers, in which he pledges to
desecrate the Catholic Eucharist (which Catholics consider to be holy).
Frankly, I am astounded that your University would allow such vitriolic
hatred and bigotry to be spewed from one of its Professors! I don’t think
I’ve ever before come across such prejudice and hatred in print! The fact
that he teaches students (some of whom are Catholic) is most troubling. Is
this the kind of person parents and taxpayers pay to influence the minds of
their students? I wonder if Catholicism is belittled in his classroom as
well–who knows? Clearly, he is an immature man and a first class bigot.
I certainly hope that you and the Board of Regents will treat this matter
with the seriousness it deserves. In such cases, I’ve found that it’s often
enlightening to argue by analogy and to substitute another group for the one
which is being denigrated. Thus, instead of against Catholics, let’s assume
that Prof. Myers spewed bigotry against Jews or Blacks. For example, let’s
imagine that Prof. Myers said, “The Torah is nothing more than a piece of
paper. Can anyone out there steal me a torah? I’ll show you sacrilege,
gladly, and with much fanfare. I will treat it with profound disrepect and
heinous abuse, all photographed and presented here on the web! I intend to
urinate on it, draw swastikas on it, and then rip it up.”
I’m sure that if your professor said such things regarding a holy Jewish
object, he would be instantly fired. Or, at the very least, he would be
vilified in the press and picketed by students. Great numbers of enraged
faculty members, moreover, would call for his resignation. And alumni would
boycott their contributions to the school. No one would even think to
mention freedom of speech or tenure in the face of such hatred and bigotry.
Why, then, should it be any different when Catholics are the object of his
hatred and bigotry???????
We need to hit him where it hurts. Perhaps I should grab a copy of his Holy
Book, which I assume to be Darwin’s Origin of Species, and desecrate that!
I recently found your comments on your blog, which is linked to official U of M sites, to be offensive to members of the Catholic faith. I am a 25-year old Catholic who is also a teacher and I would ask you to consider the position you have in the academic world. As a professor and a teacher of students, you are a unique position to change lives. You are, no doubt, respected for your position and your expertise. As such, you also bear a responsibility to those whom you teach to be civil and use your reason to bring others to the truth. Degrading a religious faith is an abuse of your position in society. Arguing against the doctrine of the Eucharist in a rational matter would have been a better choice. Then you could have engaged in an interesting debate. Many people would have benefited. I hope that you will consider your approach to such issues in the future. I’m sure you are a busy man, but if you would like to correspond more on the matter, I would be happy to speak with you.
if you want to get some real laughs and giggles, why not say something really disparaging about Allah?? i think we all know why, let’s see how wild and kooky you are and do that, we all know attacking Christians is easy, i think you were the kind of kid who would hand over your lunch money to the bullies at school instead of standing up for yourself, by the way, what are you doing for mankind that equals what a Mother Teresa did, and she believed in the Eucharist…oh i know, you teach biology……that is a big deal.
Your plans to publicly and intentionally debase a consecrated communion wafer have recently come to my attention. While I have the utmost respect for your right to freedom of speech, I have to strongly discourage you in this course of action. Just because you can do something, does not mean you should. Not only will you deeply offend and disrespect millions of Catholics, Orthodox and Episcopalians with such an act, you will violate the sense of mutual respect and understanding that has allowed this nation to be a forum of shared knowledge and a haven for the persecuted. Perhaps you are unaware of it due to its lack of publicity, but anti-Catholicism is alive and well. While this act might seem to be a harmless act of protest to you, it only reinforces the bigotry that many of us face on a daily basis. This act would be as offensive to Catholics as a desecration of the Koran would be to Muslims. I doubt your employers would approve of a plan for you to publicly defile the Koran, so I would hope that they will not endorse your current plan either. Why do you feel the need to do this? I am happy for you to voice disapproval with the Catholic Church, but can’t you find some other, intelligent and meaningful way of doing it? Debate a Bishop, write a paper, make a TV appearance, burn the Papal flag, just don’t carry out your plan. If you have grievances with the Church, explain your position in a public forum. That’s the American thing to do.
You have asked your reader to provide you with communion wafers for the purpose of “show[ing] you sacrilege, gladly, and with much fanfare.” I readily concede that it is extremely strange, even a little creepy, to believe that a wafer is in a real sense God, and yet that is what I do believe. I have no objection to your jokes and satirical remarks — they’re not much different from what Protestants have been saying for five hundred years, and indeed what Berengar of Tours said in the eleventh century. However, I do ask you this: that you not actually carry out your plan. I wouldn’t ordinarily make such a request of a stranger, but the thing can hardly matter to you one way or the other — as you put it, it’s a cracker — and it does matter to me. I have tried to find an analogy to explain my request and this is the best I can do: you might be entirely right that a old rag is worthless and should be thrown out, yet, if that rag were a small child’s security blanket, I doubt you would do so, to spare the child’s feelings. I put myself in the place of that child, and ask: Please don’t. I’m not asking for respect, only for a small kindness of omission: not trampling feelings for the sake of the trampling.
What do you hold sacred?
Do you respect the faith of others?
Does your employer support all kinds of diversity EXCEPT religious?
Do you support all manner of rule and law breakers?
Your threat is foolish and your reaction to the Catholic League borders on psychotic.
I urge you not to desecrate the Eucharist.
In the most blessed sacrament of the Eucharist the body and blood, together with the soul and divinity, of our Lord Jesus Christ and, therefore, the whole Christ is truly, really, and substantially contained.
Such a sacrilege would not only be deeply offensive to Catholics, but also to people of all faiths for such a blatant disrespect of a profoundly held religious belief.
I am getting more accustomed to the idea that there apparently exists a nascent consensus in certain academic circles that it is OK to bait Catholics (whilst other faiths- whether of religious or secular pedigree- are either ignored, tolerated, or, in certain privileged instances of natural selection, jammed down our throats by judicial decree).
I simply wish to point out that such a consensus is odious. It is ugly, uncivilized, and perfectly know-nothing.
I hope that you will determine it to be in the best interests of your institution- as it most certainly is in the best interest of limiting further self-humiliation of this ignorant boor Meyers- to advise him to leave his Catholic-bashing to his private time and resources.
You must be crazy.
Myers, you certainly sound like a B.Y.E.
What do you do in your spare time, watch The Exorcist and root for Satan?
You supposedly “teach” science and math?
I doubt it.
Remember that Freedom of Speech is not freedom to harm others, which is what you are doing.
But since you are snug in your relative values of the moment, I know that will mean nothing to you, or your sick ego.
I can’t tell you how disappointed I am regarding remarks of desecrating something that is Sacred to my family and all Catholics; the Holy Eucharist
The University of Minnesota Morris should be a beacon of enlightenment, not a cave of prejudice, hatred and ignorance. I have twins in high school and the University of Minnesota Morris is one university where I, unfortunately, will not allow them to attend. I will not have them present at a University that will entertain individuals who will hate them for their religion.
don’t know what your beliefs are, but it is sad that you have no regard for those many millions of us who love the catholic church and the Holy Eucharist. It is disappointing that someone in your position, in a university teaching our young, future leaders to desecrate something others deem holy. Perhaps you should be more considerate and learn some basic manners. You don’t need a college degree for that, do you? Certainly, this is a scathing indictment on your “institution of higher learning”.
I ran across your blog via a link from Mark Shea’s website.
Your blog is, in my opinion, a very inspirational site.
I’m retired from the military, a college graduate, and have a 99th percentile IQ, verified by High School, college, and military intelligence testing. Since you are a professor, I assume you understand percentile rankings.
I am also a convert to the Catholic Church, being fully accepted into the Church in my early 40s.
I must tell you that, far from being offended by your commentary, I am, rather, confirmed in my beliefs, and inspired by your hatred of Christ.
I used to believe, essentially, as you do, though without the vitriolic hatred. I had nothing against people who believed in God, regardless of their denominational persuasion. I just didn’t buy it.
But, over the years, as I experienced life, educated myself, studied (as a hobby) subjects such as physics, cosmology, quantum mechanics, history, theology, biology, and many other topics, I found myself realizing that there may be more to our existence than simple happenstance.
Anyway, to cut a long story short, I appreciate your blog. Christ foretold you, and many others just like you, two millennia ago when He prophesied that his followers would be hated because of Him. Pretty clever for someone you regard either as a myth, or as a deranged lunatic.
Remember, PZ, you have absolutely no verifiable explanation of why, or how, we are here. None. Your atheism is a faith equal to or exceeding that of the most committed religious zealot. You have no proof whatsoever of your atheistic beliefs. None. Zilch. Zero. You are no different in your faith than Mohammed Atta, or any of the 9/11 killers. In a way you are worse than they were; you are “educated” and “civilized”, whereas they were simply indoctrinated. But you and your kind are the greatest killers in the history of Man; see, for example, Stalin, Hitler, and Mao: they were all intellectual secularists, just like you.
You’re not at all intelligent, PZ; you’ve simply adopted the 1960s default position of taking a contrarian position to accepted or conventional wisdom, and imagining that you’ve adopted a position of “enlightenment”. It’s sad, really; you’ve achieved a position of educational eminence, yet have never learned how to think.
If you really want a wafer to desecrate, you’re welcome to come to meet me in Skowhegan at my Church; I’ll give you one, and gladly, and sadly, watch you make a fool of yourself. I’m not a bit bothered that you don’t believe in God; God may be, but I’m not.
You’re a bully, a coward, a bigot, a dullard masquerading as an intellectual, and an extremely poor writer. Incidentally, perusing the comments on your blog I was struck by the extraordinarily poor grammar and writing skills of your disciples, in addition to their ignorance, hatred, and bigotry. But not terribly surprised, actually.
As a graduate student and a convert to Catholicism (through my own, intellectual choosing), I find your disdain of Catholics and their beliefs deplorable, immature, and unprofessional. I hope that as a historian that I never call for such disrespect for any world religion as you have done, much less be responsible for the scandal that it would bring to the devotee’s hearts, faith, and well-being.
As an employee of the state, much like yourself, I would also think such offensive speculation would jeopardize my standing in the field and would limit me as I try to advance in my chosen career path.
I hope that others contact you as well, and that a heartfelt and sincere apology to Catholics and those that happen to not share you ‘enlightened’ worldview would be much appreciated by all involved in this ugly and unfortunate event.
Your posting on your website titled “It’s a frackin’ cracker!” was both rude and insensitive toward the beliefs of millions of people. Your opinions about whether or not the Eucharist is actually God are your own, and I respect your opinion, but desecrating another’s sacred and holy object is not at all respectable. Ripping apart the Eucharist for those of the Catholic faith is equivalantly worse than force-feeding a cow to a Hindu, or displaying pictures of Allah to insult the Muslim community. You do not need to act like an ass to express your beliefs. I request that you refrain from treating my God in such a disrespectful manner; in case you do not comprehend how much your suggestion has upset people, it might be equivalent to your grief had someone threatened to run over your children. Your opinions are your own, but they don’t give you license to do whatever you please. I hope your research in the biological field continues to be successful and I thank you for your time.
So i just wanted to tell you how much I appreciate your ideas about
the Eucharist. It really demonstrates how incredibly far the modern
man has gone to reject God and any form of religion. It shows how far
we have fallen that you, a so called PROFESSOR would say these things.
Why do you not post something like, “Its just a ROCk” for the Temple
of the Mount and offer desecration and cursing for a piece of it. Why
do you act like this? Biology has nothing to do with theology so why
do you get involved? Your behavior is that of a child, not a PhD.
You should be ashamed of yourself and you should delete the post and
offer an apology because alot of people are offended by your comments.
If it’s just a cracker, then why not just desecrate an unconsecrated host?
How about a Koran, Dr. M? How about speaking w/ a Catholic theologian?
It is absolutely unacceptable to have on faculty a professor who does not represent and honor true showmanship and academic professionalism. It is abhorring that a University should labor such a person in question of doubtful virtuous character. Teachers and faculty members represent, both as a whole and in parts, the quality and the degree of excellence of the institution. But evidence have shown to the contrary. If the University wishes to maintain its high standard and prestige, it must show the dependability on part of the administration to keep and sustain the good reputation of its academia and people.
I have read your blog before for information on evolution and found it very informative. I find it sad that you also use it to broadcast irrational, foul-mouthed rants. You are giving yourself, your university, and all biology professors a bad name. Is it only when dealing with scientific data that you can muster self-control and rational thinking (rather than running, first thing, to ad hominem)? Or can you be trusted even to impartially evaluate scientific arguments? Show some respect and please try to use a little decorum. If you were to similarly insult any group–ANY group–other than Catholics, there would be a media uproar.
I am Catholic and I understand why you wrote the posts such as “frackin cracker.” I would like to say take the instance you have a personal prized possession that to many looks like nothing special. People would look at it and say “it`s just a rock” or something along those lines but to you it is so much more. Now imagine someone threatened to take it and damage or destroy it (which I am not at all threatening) how would you feel? What if they actually did such a thing? Shock and outrage would probably comprise all or part of your reaction correct?
To you the host the Eucharist is a cracker, yes it certainly looks like one, smells like one and so on. For Catholics though when the priest speaks the words of consecration something called transubstantiation takes place whereby the appearance of bread and wine remain but they become the body blood, soul and divinity of Jesus. Yes it is difficult to grasp I know but for Catholics who believe (including me) that that really is Jesus defending the Eucharist is a big deal for that reason, they think it really is Him. They see value in that “cracker” that you do not the same way you see value in a simple object that I do not. It is only through discussion not desecration that we can come to understand the meaning behind things we hold as special but to the other look like nothing.
I would ask of you to take to your nearest Catholic church any hosts that people may send you, and give them to the priest. Please do not do anything to them. The Eucharist (those crackers) is something special to me and I would appreciate your co operation in not harming something I care about even though you do not see its value.
May I ask you to click the following link to find out how Catholics feel about our Eucharist?
Take your time and explore it…please explore with an open mind. I wish you well in mind, body and spirit…I wish you Eternal Truths, and a Hunger to seize you to know these Truths.
Please also, click the banner above to feed the physically Hungry. There are rising food prices and we believe that Jesus is present in everyone. But He is physically present in the Consecrated Host, and He feeds us spiritually with His Body and Blood in a form we accept as food – bread.
I can’t describe to you how deeply I know this. It is out-of-this-world information.
Even if you never believe in the Reality of God in the Consecrated Host, I would humbly ask you to respect the beliefs of others and please don’t do what you have said you will do.
Prayers, Blessings, Happiness now and for Eternity be yours!
I read an article on Catholic On-line about your intentions on desecration of the holy Eucharist. It is shameful that a person in your position of leadership over our youth in this nation would act in this manner. You should stop your sinful actions and apologize to the many Catholics who you have truly offended.
In the end, you are accountable which I will pray for your soul.
Myers rant and threats against the Holy Eucharist are a sad, but not a historically unfamiliar occurrence. I think Myers would have fit in well with other movements throughout history that sought to treat the Holy Eucharist with unholy regard. The Anarchists of the Spanish Civil War would have welcome Myers with opened arms, for example, and they surely would have supplied him with a large bundle of Eucharists.
Those throughout history that have attacked the Holy Eucharist in such a way harbor a deep seated resentment for things holy. And for Catholics, it doesn’t get much holier than the Eucharist. The Holy Eucharist represents Jesus Christ himself to Catholics, and it is beyond me why Myers would think it appropriate to desecrate Jesus Christ (again fitting in quite well with Anarchists and such). (Ironically, of course, Jesus represents the “Truth”, and it’s laughable that Univ. professor would harbor such deep resentment for the truth).
Myers is a wonderful example of an intelligent professor who, by way of his hatred of the Eucharist, has no respect for his Catholic students or co-workers. Send this professor packing. As a Catholic and an alumni of the University of MN, this man lacks an essential characteristic needed to be a Univ of MN employee, and that would of course be a basic respect for others.
As a devote Catholic I am deeply saddened by your recent statements. I respect everyone’s free will to believe what they believe but you have crossed the line from personal belief to attacking and degrading the very most important facet of my belief. I fully support your right to your beliefs and will gladly fight to protect those rights but please lets keep this a discussion. I can disagree with your beliefs but I would never destroy something you hold a sacrosanct like Darwin’s personal diaries for example just because I don’t fully agree with him.
that a scientist– someone in the business of seeking truth– is so utterly blind to it.
Do you find yourself amusing? I bet you do.
Your latest , about the Holy Eucharist , just makes you repugnant.
Do you have RESPECT for anything, anyone, yourself? This is not a rhetorical question.
Why must you offend?
I’m sorry that you are an atheist. I’m sorry that the Church hurt you in some way.
We will pray for you, your pathology is in need of prayer.
“Love One Another ,as I Have Loved You!”
I wish to express my alarm and concern over the hateful comments of Dr. PZ Meyers concerning the desecration of the Eucharist. As a faithful Catholic and a trained cell biologist (MS Biochemistry, University of Idaho, Ph.D. Molecular and Cellular Biology, Arizona State University), I am deeply offended at Dr. Meyers’ intention to desecrate that which millions of Catholics across the country (and billions of Catholics across the world) hold as most sacred. I am certainly a believer in the freedom of speech. However, this hatred goes too far. The University of Minnesota, I am sure, values diversity in thought and in life. Dr. Meyers’ comments and intentions far eclipse academic freedom, free speech, and civility. How can he claim tolerance when he is being completely intolerant of Catholic belief and practice? He is targeting a specific group of people for their beliefs and is attacking them for the sole purpose of denigrating them. I don’t have a problem that Dr. Meyers would disagree with me about almost everything. The university is a setting where different ideas are to be weighed and debated. However, Dr. Meyers is only concerned with hatred and bigoted attack. I wonder what the response of the University of Minnesota would be if the group he was attacking were a minority, or Jewish, or Muslim, or gay? With the publicly expressed opinions and intentions of Dr. Meyers, how would one expect a Catholic student to be treated by him? Clearly as a parent and academic, I could never support anyone going to the University of Minnesota if these are the kinds of faculty members it employs.
Imagine, if you will, a steel ball the size of the earth.
Every 1,000 years, a sparrow flies by and lightly brushes its wing against the steel ball.
When those light brushes wear the steel ball down to nothing, eternity will have just begun.
That’s a long, long, long time. Some of us will be spending that time in happiness with God in heaven and some of us will be spending that time suffering with Satan in hell.
Showing disrespect for God and the Eucharist is a good way to end up with Satan.
What college did you attend that taught you to be so disrespectful? It does not bespeak of the dignity we would expect of a college professor.
ou are nothing but a coward. You would not choose a Muslim symbol to desecrate because you would be in grave danger. You pick a Catholic symbol because you know that Catholics will just pray for you.
Your actions constitute a hate crime. There will be no prosecution because hate crime laws were designed to put White Christian males in jail.
PLEASE Prof.Myers, Use your wonderful God given gift of learning to find out exactly what it is you plan to desecrate… NOT what you THINK it is!
I’m writing about your blog post from July 8 (“IT’S A FRACKIN’ CRACKER!”). This is not a piece of hate mail, and I’m sorry that you’re receiving hate mail. I don’t have a very complete understanding of the incident, but, based on what seems to have happened, while I don’t approve of what Mr. Cook did, I disapprove of the efforts to go after him, and I even admire your willingness to stick up for the young man — while not admiring some of the rhetoric you use while doing so – which I find in places to be needlessly abusive (and yes, I do recognize some on the other side are needlessly abusive, too). But what really concerns me are your proposals in your penultimate (“So, what to do”) paragraph. It’s as if your goal in writing that paragraph was to see if you could meet (and *perhaps* even surpass!) the stupidity and meanness of the worst of the examples you took to task earlier in your post. I had planned to argue to you that you should rescind that plan, complete with careful analyses of when and how we should take into account the beliefs of others that we consider to be false in deciding how to treat the people in question. But I’ve read some of your blog posts, and based on my sense of your character, I have faith that you need no argument from me here: If you just take a deep breath and objectively consider what you wrote, keeping in mind the many Catholics (and other Christian too, for that matter) who are innocent in this matter but whom you would be needlessly hurting by what you propose (even if their being hurt depends upon beliefs they hold that you take to be obviously false), I am confident you will be able to see the light. On the other hand, if I have read your character wrong (as I’m often inclined to do, being disposed to being overly charitable [perhaps even gullible] in my judgments of people, as many Christian friends have told me, based on my admiration for important aspects of Prof. Dawkins’s character), and you still think yours is a great idea after a little consideration, you are probably beyond the reach of the help of any argument I could produce, anyway.
Hey you cocksucker! I am not holy but I have respect for the religion. Go ahead and do what you intend to and then see what transpires, Ego te provoko, you worthless piece of tenured shit.
We pray for your soul. Jesus loves you, and He tells us that we are to love you too.
We feel sorry for you, that evidently you believe life is just about yourself and the “here and now”. What do you have to look forward to? Old age? What comes after that???
We pray for your conversion,
It is very rude to make fun of someone’s religion, even if you do not agree with that belief. Very sad indeed.
I wonder what has caused you to be filled with so much hate that it would drive you to these childish antics. One would think someone of your intelligence would find something more productive to to with his time.
I have no love for the Catholic church and don’t like organized religion. But I do have Catholic friends and coworkers and they seem like nice people.
If for some reason you are offended by the Catholic church then I suggest you go out and get thicker skin. I have learned a long time ago that being offended at every little thing does nothing but cause medical problems and a shorter life.
I read today that you made disparaging remarks about the holy Eucharist, which is the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ to every Catholic. Your remarks are extremely offensive, hateful, and immoral to say the least. Its hard to believe you could say such things rather than sticking to your area of study. Clearly you have a dislike for the Catholic Church and God for that matter. I sincerely pray for you this day that you will find God in your life. I hope you consider writing an apology regarding your remarks.
I think you underestimate the importance of mythology and ritual in the human condition. Yes, even your human condition. After all, your diploma is just a bit of cloth and ink, isn’t it. I don’t suppose you’d mind if I just whip one up in my basement and start teaching biology, do you? Oh that’s right, yours was consecrated by the Dean in a Late-Middle-Ages ritual. There is a lot of wrong in this situation, but you are also wrong. Please read some Joseph Campbell.
p.s., I’m not a religious whacko, I am in fact a VP of engineering and also a computer science graduate student working on my dissertation in theoretical computer science at night. I do attend church, but not Catholic; I personally don’t believe in transubstantiation. The communion ritual is an important part of the Christian church’s ability to propagate itself and has been effective for many centuries. As a biologist you should respect that.
Nice Job Mr. Myers!
Thank you for finally showing those Catholic jerks what’s what!!! You’re the man! You’re so smart! How did you ever figure the whole thing out! “Kick the pope in the balls!!!” Way to bring that holy roller back to earth! You must be like, the smartest person I’ve ever written an email to, you obviously have such a wide and deep understanding of history and the world! I mean….you’re a big important professor!!! At UM!!! That Catholic Church and its 2,000 year history has nothing on you man, you’ve got them pinned.
Don’t worry, you didn’t make yourself look like a totally ignorant fool. You looked smart! And witty! Sacrilege…that’s a big word, even for a smart guy like you, did you have to look it up? And don’t worry…you didn’t sound like a venomous hater, you sounded respectful and accepting of the Catholics, just like I’m sure you do with all people who have different beliefs than yours…..I’m going to go out a trash a mosque, and then key the first car I see in a parking lot that has one of those rainbow stickers on it, just so I can be like you!
I have just read with deep and heartfelt emotion of your intention to desecrate that which us Catholics call the Holy Sacrament of the Altar but which you call a “Frackin’ Cracker”. Please! I appeal to your better sense of respect for all to refrain from this act which is already causing me and those of the Catholic Community great pain. The intention to do this causes deep grief to those of us who hold the belief that the Host, once consecrated, is the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Our Lord Jesus Christ. I am not asking you to believe this. Far from it. I am simply asking you to respect our beliefs and to refrain from committing this act of anger and utmost disrespect towards that which over 1 billion people world wide hold sacred.
Of course you are entitled to your views on the situation which occured last week in relation to a student taking the Host from the Church and “holding it hostage” and its consequences and rightly so, but please understand that we have our views too and, greater than views, they consititue the source and summit of all we believe. In carrying out the sacrilege you threaten upon that which we consider Holy, you can in fact carry out no greater act of disrespect and hurt. You hit right at the core of our beliefs which I know you understand we are entitled to hold and believe without any disrespect or violence. Perpetrating this act will hit us all very much and will cause many of us much grief. Is this truly what you want? Are you wondering how will we respond? There is only one way we can respond and that is the way of love and forgivness. There should not ever be any violent repercussions form anyone who calls themselves Catholic. We will forgive your actions yet we will grieve over them deeply.
I finish this mail literally on my knees, begging of you to reconsider your proposed actions and turn away from the feelings of anger you have towards us. You are certainly a man of respected intelligence and your position in life has confirmed this. Your position in the world may not change as a result of your actions but remember that every decision must be followed with personal responsibility and the carried memories that you have inflicted a very great wound upon many hearts.
If, at present as you read this, there are already any Hosts in your possession, please return them to their rightful place i.e. the nearest Catholic Church. Simply return them. If you don’t wish to apolgise for your actions, don’t apologise. Just know that if you do the right thing and return them, many hearts will be most grateful and will not forget your change of heart.
Re: communion wafer… You are one sick man. One day, eventually, you’ll have to face what you’ve said today in an honest light. No, really, you will.
Save yourself some grief. Resign, go find Ward Churchill and just hang out in the same slime hole.
It is disappointing to read of your recent comments. I doubt you would dare say such insulting things about other groups such as Jews, Muslims, or gays but do feel empowered to engage in such a tirade when it comes to Catholics!
The mark of an educated person is the ability to reason and think critically. It seems your education has been deficient.
As a Catholic, I am offended by the insulting and crass comments you recently made about the Holy Eucharist. I firmly believe that this “frackin’ cracker”, as you described it, is indeed the body, blood, soul and divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ. If I am wrong as to the nature and identity of the Holy Eucharist and it is indeed nothing more than a wafer, your comments are still needlessly crass, offensive and incendiary. On the other hand, if I am correct, then you are also guilty of a serious offense against God for even uttering such words.
I urge you to retract and apologize for your comments. I also urge you to exercise more prudence, restraint, respect and charity in the future — regardless of the target.
I don’t know you or what your life is like, so I don’t judge you personally. You may be both nice and decent, personally. But your comments were certainly not. I hope this was merely one of those moments we all have during our lives in which we look back and think “that was not one of my better moments.”
While I do candidly believe some sort of discipline is in order because of the extreme and public nature of your comments, I will also be praying for your well-being — both temporal and eternal.
You will discover soon enough what your blasphemy gets you. Since you have said your hateful lies where me and my friends can see them, it will be sooner than you think. You’ll wish you had a cracker in Hell!
Rude, hostile, insulting bigotry may get you more page hits, but it hardly contributes much to the public discourse on religion.
If your goal was to simply appeal to the lowest common denominator, then congratulations – you win the internets. I’m sure the suburban rich white teen “rebelz” that infest your comments section are tremendously proud of you.
Thanks for, once again, making it even more difficult to be an atheist in America.
I am in complete disbelief that Professor Myers is still in good standing at your university after his mocking and hateful rampage against Catholicism’s central and most sacred doctrine of the Holy Eucharist. I urge you as President of of UM-Morris to not only make him apologize for his remarks but discipline his hateful speech.
Please take a moment to read what Mr. Meyers has posted on his faculty page on your university’s website:
“Can anyone out there score me some consecrated communion wafers?…if any of you would be willing to do what it takes to get me some, or even one, and mail it to me, I’ll show you sacrilege, gladly, and with much fanfare. I won’t be tempted to hold it hostage (no, not even if I have a choice between returning the Eucharist and watching Bill Donohue kick the pope in the balls, which would apparently be a more humane act than desecrating a goddamned cracker), but will instead treat it with profound disrespect and heinous cracker abuse, all photographed and presented here on the web.”
Is this the standard we can expect from faculty members at your state university?
How old are you? I cannot believe that a “professor,” representing his 1) college 2) country
3)state 4) family 5) himself…chooses to throw a temper tantrum which gets international attention. You will desecrate the Eucharist, huh? I live in Germany. We had lots of your ilk running around here 65 years ago…and you may have read about the consequences. Why don’t you desecrate the Koran, or a Torah? You do not believe in either of them either, but, like all cowards, you stroke your big Morris, Minnesota ego by attacking the last legal target of predjudice…the Catholic Church. Boy, you must have really been hurt at one time…maybe by someone in the Church. Grow up! Act like an educator. Swallow your pride, admit you said something absolutely stupid, and seek humility.
I hope you weren’t serious about what you were threatening to do. I disagree with many different beliefs of people but I respect their right to their beliefs, including your right to disagree. I would not wish you harm or want to deface your property or possessions. You may have wanted to get attention, and that you have. I ask you to reconsider the sacra ledge you proposed, if only because it is hurtful to others. I will pray for you.
I own 4 guns. I bet liberal vermin like you don’t own any.
Why would you be so insensitive to Catholics worldwide with your hateful ranting’s about something billions of people worldwide hold so dear? I just wanted you to know that your words cause me a profound sadness and I pray you come to feel heartfelt contrition over the pain your words have caused to so many.
Professor Myers is a disgusting, immature guttersnipe. You should put him in the unemployment line post haste.
If he had insulted Jews, or Muslims this wouldn’t even be a question…the bum would have been fired.
Come on down to Florida. We know how to welcome bastards like you…..with a bullet.
Try desecrating anything Muslim and see what happens.
Why are you against Catholics? I’m sure we don’t care how you worship. You must just be trying to get attention.
Just for your information: The main reason the Eucharist is so closely guarded is that they are coveted by those who participate in satanism and the black mass. It’s not a “frackin’ cracker” to them.
PS. I’m ashamed a professor from a Minnesota University would utter such depraved private thoughts.
I hope that you will consider the abusive and completely unnecessary behavior of Paul Myers in its true light. His hate speech is beyond offensive, even to those of use who are not Donohue-esque zealots.
Please try having the same respect for others that you expect (and demand) for yourself.
On his blog Pharyngula, PZ Myers asked that letters of support for him be sent to you. In good conscience, however, I can’t do that. Reading Myers’ writings on Pharyngula quickly convinces any reader who doesn’t share his faith in Darwinism that the man is an insufferable ass who brings discredit to your university. If you’re not ashamed to have him on your faculty, you should be.
Over the past few days controversy has erupted over your stated intention to obtain a concecrated host from a Catholic Church and to desecrate it live on the web.
Having read your original post on the subject I find the level of disrespect displayed towards Catholics absurd, it abounds with irational ad hominum attacks and falls short of the standards that students such as myself expect from those who teach us.
Whilst I can understand that some of your views of Catholics have been coloured by abusive comments from my fellow co-relgionists, it could be argued that you have intentionally baited them with your less than tactful comments and that you bought this torrent of absue on yourself.
Whilst I respect you as a professor in your established field, I would also ask that you respect my beliefs and those of my co-religionists
Aren’t you cool! Another big-mouthed Christian buster. Play with the Sacrament, demon boy. Everything will play out in the end.
Are you by chance a former Catholic?
What happened in your past to turn your soul to sludge?
You are in my prayers.
If you would like the controversy which your hateful anti-Catholic bigotry has initiated to go away immediately, all you have to do is recant your pledge to desecrate the Eucharist and apologize to the Catholics and others whom you have offended.
Hopefully you are man enough to do that. You’re in my prayers, Paul, for you must truly be a broken vessel. I am very sorry for you, and for the distraction from your academic career which your unfortunate vitriol has visited upon you.
Just because you do not appreciate the Eucharist, is no reason to assault what is so precious to me.
The Eucharist is not a “thing” , but a PERSON….Jesus Christ,.. who is truly present in that form of Bread.
Even though you don’t have the faith to believe it doesn’t take away the fact.
I don’t live in your house,….but that doesn’t give me the right to spray-paint your house.
Why are you so offended for the student???
Isn’t it REALLY your own pride and anger with God that you are not the man you are supposed to be???
Do you resent the fact that God lives whether or not you “allow” Him to?
The Eucharist is the MOST PRECIOUS POSSESSION EVER to HAVE. It is my MOST PRECIOUS
POSSESSION–and to desecrate Him is to mutilate me.
I understand how when people don’t understand something, they are scared of it. I’ve made that connection with you and the Holy Eucharist.
I’m disappointed that you would, as a respected professor, make hateful remarks that offend not only Catholics, but all people who hold thier sacred tradition and beliefs close to thier heart.
I’m disappointed with your actions, but I pray that one day your heart will be opened. You are free to believe anything that you would like…a joy of living in the United States, even if it’s that you believe the Eucharist is a frickin cracker, but your proposed hate acts against that “cracker” are a bit extreme in behavior.
I DONT SPEAK FOR ALL CATHOLICS BUT MOST OF US HAVE HAD SOME GREAT EDUCATIONS FROM GRADE SCHOOL TO GRADUATE LEVEL.
WERE EVEN RANKED SECOND BEHIND THE JEWISH COMMUNITY. WE RESPECT BILL THATS WHY HE SPEAKS FOR MOST OF US AND WE APPRECIATE IT. WE SEE IN YOUR COMMENTS THAT WE NEED THE BILL’S OF THIS WORLD TO FIGHT FOR US EVEN THOUGH WE CAN DO APPOLOGETICS FOR OURSELVES.
WE RESPECT OTHERS AND WE EXPECT THE SAME FROM ANYONE ELSE. ITS EXPECTED OF MOST PEOPLE IF NOT ALL PEOPLE’S TO RESPECT OTHERS. ITS TO BAD THE
WORLD IS LOOSING THIS RESPECT.
ANYWAY WE EXPECT WHICH DOESNT ALWAYS HAPPEN THAT OTHERS RESPECT THAT TINY LITTLE WAFER
BECAUSE WE RESPECT OTHER PEOPLE TRADITIONS. IT PROBABLY COMES FROM THE STUDY OF ANTHROPOLOGY AND ARCHAEOLOGY THAT I SAY THIS. HMM I GUESS AS A CATHOLIC I REALLY CAN SPELL THESE
WORDS WITH INTELLIGENCE AND UN-
DERSTANDING. I GUESS IM NOT SOME
IGNORANT CATHOLIC WITH A SUPERSTITIOUS NATURE. WOW I WONDER WHERE THIS CAME FROM?
MUST BE COMPLETELY EVEOLUTION AND NOT REVELATION. PERSONALLY
IT IS REVELATION.
You just don’t have the backbone to attack the Muslims do you? A bit of a castrati are we? Coward
As a practicing Roman Catholic, I am socked to hear that you have threatened to desecrate the Holy Eucharist. I find this as shameful bigotry against the Catholic Church.
I respect all mainstream religion in out fine country. I hope you will start respecting mine. There is no room for this type of behavior in our country. I urge you think about what is causing you to act the way you are to sincerely apologize to all Roman Catholics.
You are very misguided. Why you would chose to attack others beliefs and show such hostility is beyond me to understand. You need to show a little control and self respect. Any how I will say a few rosaries for you and perhaps you will get well again. Best Regards
May you come to know the love of Jesus in the miracle of the Eucharist. All are welcome!
Mr. Myers…If you have a problem with religion why not rationally debate it, instead of attacking the most important part of our Catholic religion, the “sacred host, the Eucharist” which to us is the “Body & Blood of Jesus.” Please, persecution and hate will not address your complaints and disagreements. Let’s act civilly…God bless…By the way, when I first read about your diatribe, I thought of St. Paul. I do believe God can work miracles…I’ll be praying for you…Please pray for me…
Hey, professor… I dare you to show the same sacrilege with “equal fanfare” to the Muslim religion. Perhaps you can dunk a Koran in a jar of urine and post that on the web with some funny comments? Oh wait…. I guess your version of atheism doesn’t include hating a religion that would surely respond by threatening your life and limb huh? You pitiful, immature coward.
You just made this Catholic’s prayer list. You may make it to heaven yet brother. Peace.
I think you should do the right thing and apologize for your hateful remarks toward Catholics. I don’t know what brought about your hatred, but I guarantee you, it will never make you happy. Turn it around.
if your college wont fire you ill come out there and take care of the problem for them
If you’re looking for something to desecrate, why don’t you try a Quran? I’ll even buy it for you! It won’t cost you a thing! Think of the attention you’ll get! What? You won’t do that? Why? Oh! You’re a COWARD! C’mon paulie, put on some big boy pants, cowboy up, grow some balls and just do it. You pick on a true religion of peace and won’t do anything to upset followers of a pedophilic so-called “prophet”. Count your blessings that Catholics don’t behead people, ass hole.
I’ll pray that this hatred leaves you.
You’re a bigot and a hypocrite. Try insulting Muslim’s and then I’ll support your biased attack against Catholics.
Dear Professor Myers:
Or, should I say, “intellectual pygmy” masquerading as a professor?
I undersatnd you want a Eucharistic host to desecrate and insult my religion” ? Well, professor, I shall be happy to provide you with one in person. Please name the place and time.
Since you are brave behind your blog, threatening Bill O’ Donahue of the Catholic League saying you would be happy to kick him in the balls, why don’t you try that with this Catholic veteran? I will be in Minnesota for the Republican convention and would be pleased to deliver your special host to you.
I’m really looking forward to coming to Minneapolis in September. Hoping you take me up on my offer…
You sound like a terribly insecure little man. I am astonished that the University would even employ you. By the way, who gives a rats ass about zebrafish? You ought to do extensive research about how an idiot like you survives to adulthood?
Sir, if any of what we’ve learned is accurate, you should be ashamed of yourself.
You are just another example of what is wrong with our culture; freedom out of control.
After reading several of your blog posts, I find that you compose them with all the grace and wit of a third-grader who has just learned some dirty words. I encourage you to continue your Don Quixote-like crusade against religion, for the venom you spew does more harm to your cause than anything else. How can a man who supposedly lauds “reason” waste his time insulting a God he doesn’t believe in? Thank you for keeping the stereotype of the angry, bitter atheist alive. Kudos.
I am not sure what would cause someone to act so hateful toward Catholics and our Lord Jesus Christ. Others are angry at you, but I am very sad. I feel so sorry for you. One does not have to believe in Jesus if they choose not to. No on will try and force you to believe in Jesus Christ nor that the Eucharistic host is His body, blood, soul, and divinity. So why is it that you must try and stir up problems? I cannot believe that it is because your life is so boring. You must have been hurt by someone and for that I am sorry. I will pray for your healing and that you will not feel such hate.
GET A REAL JOB!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you for your comment regarding the desecration of the Eucharist. I am sure Jesus has heard it and will respond accordingly. It may hurt a little, but don’t worry, we Catholics will pray that you’ll still live long enough to repent. If you don’t apologize, we Catholics won’t be able to see you from where we spend our eternity. You won’t have a lick of a chance.
Your comments to Bill Donohue were ridiculous, dangerous (for you) and really not worthy of comment. But – well – since I like Bill and I pray for you – well – maybe someone should comment!
At a university???!!!
What a shame!!!!!!!!
Are you so starved for attention that you must take other folks faith and ridicule it? I know I should respond by prayer for you, but right now I am just puzzled. What is your purpose? Like anti-Semitism, bigotry, prejudice, etc., it’s folks like you who need a watchdog like Donahue. I am glad he is there. I hope like the rest of your ilk, you will be “taught” how inflammatory your words are, since you seem to be oblivious to any other intelligent reasoning.
I will try not to say anything that will encourage you and your counterparts in attacking the Catholic Church or the faithful. I think it’s so sad that you are ignorant and intolerant of things other people hold dear to their hearts. Let me give you an example.
I live in Kansas. Lots of jokes about that – I can take it. It’s beautiful here and I have no desire to live anywhere else. From the west side of the state where the July air can be hot and dry during the day and cool and calm at night, to the east side of the state where the towns are bigger, there’s more vegetation, more “culture”, and more people than cows. I’ve stayed in New York City, Washington, DC, Atlanta, GA, etc. I lived for a short time in Ft. Worth, TX. People in New York City are great at making jokes about Kansas, but they’ve never been here to know how glorious the lifestyle is. Most of the people I know here in Kansas are well-traveled; we know what “the big city” is like – we’ve been there, done that. But how many people in the city can understand the simple joy of sitting on the porch and waving at neighbors as they take their evening walk or how much fun a 4th of July celebration is on the town square? I have relatives who live on the east coast and it took them a week to relax and enjoy life; they were so keyed up. Even in Wichita (the biggest city in Kansas), people know when wheat harvest is and pray for good weather for the farmers. We pull together and we pray together. Catholic or Protestant, we hope the best for each other.
You on the other hand, seem to be happiest when causing other people pain or consternation. Why? What has happened to you in your lifetime that you are so bitter you have to attack another’s beliefs? We probably don’t want to go there. It just makes me wonder and feel so sad.
Catholics have not asked you to give us anything, so just let us be! Isn’t that what the United States is all about? If you don’t like it, maybe you should live somewhere else.
I just want you to know that I and my family will be praying for you. God bless you.
You could use a little more tact and manners in your current PR debacle.
Your first amendment rights do not insulate you from looking foolish.
Don’t like what you are hearing? Look in a mirror or videotape yourself before you go in public.
Catholics do not hate you ,but you are courting their indignation by your stupidity as your proposed
anti catholic sacrilege.
I see you love getting attention. Were you deprived of it as a child? Do you think your family would be proud of your puerile , offensive behaviour?
Is that how they raised you? You owe Catholics and indeed, all decent minded human beings an apology for your ignorant comments and antics.
What this all boils down to in the end is that you are just a silly old man clamouring for public attention.
My hope is that, aside from mockery, you shall be deprived of it.
You are a monster. We need another Inquisition to root out idiots like you (and anyway, the Church only excommunicated heretics and witches, then handed them over to the state for punishment. We never executed them directly). How dare you insult the Lord God like that. Losers like you will suffer. I hope and pray that this will loose you your job and your career.
What have we Catholics done to you? Why do wish to desecrate the Eucharist? You probably know that we believe that the Eucharist is the body and blood of Our Lord Jesus Christ. To desecrate it would be the vilest act you could ever commit against us. Please respect our religion as we respect yours and everybody’s.
Myers, your opinion of God will be your undoing. There are more than 5 Billion people on this planet that belives God has given you and all others the capability to move civilization forward in His Name.
I can’t help feeling sorry for you, to desacrate God, Creator of the World will be delt with in His time.
Please do NOT desecrate the Eucharist in any way. Please, I beg you to NOT damage what is So PRECIOUS to me.
It is usually disillusion with unrelated issues that causes people to strike out. But that is exactly what Jesus came to address,..
and to offer healing and purpose.
If you only KNEW….
I will pray for you and for whatever healing of lost dreams you may be enduring.
I understand that you accept, on Faith, the unproven Theory of Evolution. I
haven’t made up my mind about it yet, as we haven’t quite found those pesky
“missing links”–I like to keep an open mind about all theories until one is
proven beyond all doubt. However, after reading your illogical and puerile
rants against Catholics recently, I’ve come to the conclusion that you must
be partially right about evolution. I don’t know about the rest of us
folks, but you are most certainly just a few swings away from being a
Since you mentioned fatwa, I bet you don’t have the balls to descreat a Koran. They are a people of the Book also. Go ahead, I dare you.
You shouldn’t open your mouth and trash our beliefs. And if you have balls, go after the Muslim….or I forgot you scare. You are a very smart individual, build something with it, but don’t pull everyone down with you.
I believe the consecrated host is the body, blood, soul, and divinity of Jesus Christ. I don’t care whether you believe it or not. In this country we have freedom of religion. I don’t approve of anyone taking my religion away from me.
If this is not the Paul Myers who is making news today for planning to desecrate The Eucharist, forgive me.
If it is, may God forgive you.
Only the general contempt for Catholics in this culture allows you to call it a cracker. It is in fact the body of Christ.
Would you degrade something Jewish? How about something representing the nation of Islam? Many web sites are alerting people like me to contact your employer to decry your blasphemy, and I just did.
Perhaps atheists like you are praying you have tenure…if not, I would be looking in the Chronicle for a new piece of chalk.
I am writing to express my concerns about Professor Myers announcement of his intentions to desecrate the Eucharist. Such a remark is not consistent with the cultural competency that an institution of higher learning should represent. As a psychologist, I am quite familiar with University of Minnesota’s academic reputation. Please take steps to defend the integrity of your institution by appropriately disciplining such bigoted, hateful, and culturally insensitive remarks. Fortunately, the Catholic religion teaches the virtues of peace, tolerance, and charity. Such threats against some other religions would be met with force, which is why I think it not a stretch to assume that Catholicism is subject to such cowardly attacks.
Why are your people so fowl towards Catholics?
Sir?; Shame on you! May God forgive you and I will pray for you. You should seek help soon
Does it make you nervous knowing that so many people are praying for you? You might just get converted!!
Why don’t you stick to your professional credentials and expound on something you know about and want to know about. Leave the rest of us alone.
We haven’t done you any harm in following our religion as Catholics. I don’t get the beef. Furthermore, you are a “public servant” paid by the taxpayers of Minnesota.
Your unprofessional and disrespectful attitude toward Catholics and the Catholic Faith looks really bad and the taxpayers have got to be wondering why are we paying this guy?
As a matter of fact I am wondering that very same thing about 90% of the professors in the United States who seem to have become experts on everything except what they are supposed to teach.
So please, BUG OFF.
thought you professors were all liberal, feel good about yourself and let others do what they want types. How come you are the total opposite? Talk about disrespectful, non liberal, non productive, divisive speech and thoughts. You should be ashamed.
In this world where everybody works for inclusion, you distance yourself and disrespect millions of people who, as Catholics respect the Host as THE Body and Blood of Christ ?
How dare you!
I am sponsoring efforts to get you fired for your comments on the CATHOLIC EUCHARIST – free speech has nothing to do with your idiotic & disrespectful comments – Now just go pick on the Muslims – or are you too afraid – you must be – you assinine PHD – too afraid to affront a religious belief that would terminate you. God Bless
DO YOU HAVE THE GUTS TO DO SOMETHING SIMILAR REGARDING THE MUSLIM RELIGION?
I DOUBT YOU DO, YOU KNOW THEY WOULD LOP YOUR HEAD OFF !
ATTACKING CHRISTIANS, ESPECIALLY CATHOLICS IS EASY FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU !
Don’t you have anything better to do with your life? I would be interested to know what religion you were raised. If a person has a happy and fruitful life they don’t go out of there way to degrade anothers religion. – – God Bless America and you. – –
You want to desecrate my Lord & Savior?
Well, I’m going to say a prayer for you because, I know
you do not know what you are doing.
Sham on you……..
Snap out of it…..
I feel compelled to write you to express the offense and hurt I feel as a Catholic for your apparent disregard and callous for what I and other Catholics hold most dear — the sacrament of communion. I have no idea what motivates your hatred and scorn for the Church and her beliefs.
I can only hope and pray that whatever your issues are, some resolution can be found which dissipates the tension and prevents more words and possible actions which are offensive to many sincere believers, and, as one who has spent an hour each day in a Catholic church or chapel in prayer for the past 35 years feels confident to say, to the Lord himself.
I don’t really know who you are other than you don’t like Catholics or Jesus Christ. That is your right in a free society.
But I would like to ask you not to desecrate the Holy Eucharist. We Catholics know it is the body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of our Lord Jesus. Your threats to desecrate Jesus is extremely hurtful to us. Advancing a free, good, and charitable society comes from respecting others not mocking their belief and desecration what others hold dear.
Hello Bad Boy Myers,
You need help, what do you want? Jesus (only son of God) gave his young life to save every one, even you!
God the father is sad that you Mr.. Myers have sided with Hate.
As a good Catholic Man I must Pray for you Mr. Myers, who hates Christianity.
Hells gates are wide open for hateful people Mr. Myers.
Hope to meet you in Heaven Mr. Myers.
I find it hard to believe that there is such anti Catholic and anti God hatered being spued by anybody let alone supposedly ‘educated’ people. I will work to let as many people as possible know there are still people like you taking advantage of the freedom America offers. Eventually people like you get their just deserve. I hope you get yours sooner than later.
If you really think the Blessed Eucharist is just a “farckin’ cracker” then I challenge you to do a little scientific research…
beginning here -> http://www.therealpresence.org/eucharst/mir/engl_mir.htm
Check especially this sight here, -> http://www.acfp2000.com/Miracles/eucharistic.html
if you have the balls and intellectual integrity to stand up to what you’ll find.
In short Mr. Myers what you’ll find, if you are honest with yourself, is that you’re wrong. It’s not just a “frackin’ cracker”. It’s Him who made you.
You really need to get your head around what that means. In the mean time I’ll pray for you.
I was outraged to learn of your call to desecrate a Communion host. Why such hatred against the Catholic Church?
Would you do the same against the Koran and the Islamic faith or the sacred Torah and the Jews? I
Please do not offend Our Lord. I am praying for you.
You’re nothing more than a poor, pathetic little coward. You rant that you’re going to desecrate the Communion Host knowing full well that the worst that you’ll suffer are a few denunciatory editorials and maybe a censure or two. Oh! The horror of it all!! Do you want to demonstrate REAL courage by desecrating a religious symbol? Make an image of Mohamed (one serious affront to Islam) then desecrate it (another even more serious affront to the “religion of peace”). Of course, that would expose your person to actual, corporeal danger. What’s the matter? Don’t you have the stomach for real confrontation? You’re pathetic.
Bill Donohue defends the Catholic Faith and does a wonderful job of it. When he sees disrespect or irreverence, especially in the extreme, he takes action.
Your threat to desecrate a consecrated Host is a most vicious and hateful action for which you know in your heart you need to apologize.
Please retract your threat of sacrilege and apologize to those you have offended. Most of all, please apologize to your God and Creator for your blasphemy. He doesn’t deserve it.
Dear Little Paul,
It appears that you are a naughty little man and have been doing things you shouldn’t be doing! Shame on you!
Once you get your unique proclivities for sin under control, you will certainly have a greater appreciation for your own existence. Surely, your current brazen boast and desire to desecrate the Eucharist, stems from some unresolved childhood trauma. There are ways to find peace and forgiveness. They, that hurt you, do not represent the Loving Father in Heaven. Clearly, your hatred flows from inside and is affecting your very dignity as a human being.
You have been made in the Image and Likeness of God. The angry feelings you have cannot diminish this Truth. He created you for greatness and gave you intelligence. I challenge you to take that intelligence and go searching for the existence of God.
In the mean time, I adjure you to a life with honor and be a man that young people can admire, instead of an embittered curmudgeon, whining about how terrible things have been for you.
I will pray for you.
You are a very little man. I will pray for you.
I was wondering why you would want to do something that would be so painful to so many people. Anyway, whatever the reason, I will remember you in my prayers so that whatever it is that causes you so much hatred can be reconciled in yourself, before you hurt yourself as well as others.
You need to repent and give your life to God. You just may find yourself in “Hell” for what you have done to God’s church when you die.
I am a deacon in the Anglican Church. I want to voice my concern and disapproval of Professor Myers’ comments regarding his intentions toward the Holy Eucharist. I can only imagine the discomfort that this will cause his students who profess the Christian faith.
As a publicly supported university, the University of Minnesota Morris is to provide a safe learning environment for all of its students. While there needs to be a spirit of academic inquiry and freedom in this institution of higher learning, Professor Myers’ comments hold no academic value although they do create a hostile learning environment for Christian students. I can only imagine the turmoil I would face if I were a biology student at your institution and had to study under a professor who set out to make a mockery of my faith in such a manner. While I respect one’s freedom of speech, as a professor at your institution, Professor Myers has a responsibility to consider the impact of his words and actions on his students. I agree with others that what Professor Myers is involved in is nothing less than a form of hate speech.
I trust that you will take the concerns of the Christian community into consideration as you consider your response to this matter. Thank you for your consideration.
I want to thank you for reminding me how wonderful it is to be Catholic. Your anger toward the Eucharist makes clear to me how powerful It must be. I promise to pray for you when I receive Him tomorrow at Mass. I promise to become a better Catholic in response to your promise of desecration.
May God give peace to you!
If you want to have anti Catholic views, fine. do so on your own time.
I am emailing you to pray for you and that God may reveal to you His mysterious love and mercy.
Jesus, I Trust in You. Jesus, we trust in You. Jesus, in the most holy sacrament, have mercy on us. God the Father, for the sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world. Eternal Father, we offer you the body, blood, soul, and divinity of your dearly beloved Son, Our Lord Jesus Christ in atonement for our sins and those of the whole world. Our Father, who art in heaven, hallow be Thy Name, Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven, give us this day our Daily Bread and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us and lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil. Amen. Hail Mary, full of grace the Lord is with thee, blessed are thou among woman and blessed is the Fruit of thy womb, Jesus, holy Mary, mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen. All Glory be to the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, as it was in the beginning is now and ever will be, world without end. Amen.
Fatwa? Is this the go-to accusation of those who believe Catholics are credulous, cracker-munching provincials? Your response to Bill Donahue was puerile bravado and begs the original question: why would an educator choose to denigrate the sacred belief of others irrespective of his own convictions? The vitriol you spewed regarding the student who came under scrutiny evinced a total ignorance of Catholic teaching and, worse, a reductionist mentality that conflates religious faith with irrationality. You are a prisoner, sir, of your strictured understanding. My condolences.
I do not appreciate you bigoted and religious intolerance of any faith or credible believe, especially the Catholic Faith. Your intent to obtain and desecrate a host is at least unbecoming of a University professor. A professor is supposed to show tolerance and respect for other viewpoints, let along a long standing and respected religion as the Catholic faith.
You indeed show your self to be a miscreant of society and certainly do not deserve to be teaching anything anywhere as far as I and millions of Americans are concerned.
Where did you learn this trash of hate from anyway?
May God have Mercy on your soul.
You won’t get any threats from me, unless it is to see that you loose your job you do not deserve.
Are you in love with yourself. Satan has tried for over 2000 years to destroy us (Catholic Church) and has failed miserably. You will, too. Saint Michael defend us in battle. Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him. Mary, Mother of God, protect your Church from those that wish us harm.
Hey, fella, we’re praying for you.
Your problems obviously run deep. It’s all very sad, but there’s only so much anyone can do to help you.
being that you are clearly an egotistical little man and I am loathe to give it to you but I still am compelled to say, it is not a “fricken cracker” to millions of Roman Catholics nor is it to me “Professor”.
If you are so brave, why don’t you steal a prayer rug from a local mosque and defile that?
Of course you wouldn’t dare do that because you haven’t any balls and the islamists would REALLY killyou, unlike Catholics…..You are nothing more than a typical liberal jerk from Minnesota…Your head is like the state you live in, full of holes.
You should be checked out by a very good psychiatrist. Your mind is indeed in trouble. You now have had your 15 minutes of fame. What next? You should be praying for your life.
Please respect people who believe with their heart and soul, of the transubstatiaton miracle at our Holy Mass each day of the week, the real presence of our Creator is being received by all of us who are baptized in the Apostolic Catholic Church, we believe in God the Father almighty and all the saints. We ask for the conversion of souls, and pray for you. Thank you.
I love America. It is the only country in the world where the intellectually inferior and sublimely mediocre can get an advanced degree. You prove the theory that it is possible to be educated beyond one’s intelligence.
Have a nice angry day!
You are really fucked now. Lock your doors at night, and check under your car before you turn the ignition key.
I would pray for you, but it is too late. You are damned.
I dare you to broadcast to the world your intention to show some real contempt for religion by wiping your backside with a picture of Mohammed and some pages from the Koran. You’ll get the world- wide fatwa you are whining about and the front page of every newspaper would have a picture of your decapitated body for all to see. Or do you only have the “courage” to insult those who you know would never hurt you (nasty emails notwithstanding) no matter how vile you are. For the record, I’m not a Catholic.
Jesus will always forgive your vileness; Mohammed will cut your stupid head off. Got guts or are you just another phony anti-Christian warrior ?
I am writing this to express my deep outrage and sorrow for your recent call for desecration of the Eucharist and the offer to post examples of this abuse on your website. This is truly a deep wound to our Lord, Jesus Christ who we believe is truly present in the Eucharist, as well as a very hateful act toward our Catholic faith. You would not dream to express such hatred toward Islam or any other religion, so why are you concentrating on mine? I am sure this does not agree with university policy or mission! I respectfully ask that you apologize for your hateful remarks and refrain from making more in the future. Perhaps if you educated yourself on the Catholic faith, you would understand better what a gift the Eucharist truly is, and I would challenge you to do so as a man who values education. I will pray that you develop more tolerance and understanding, and less hate and vindictiveness.