The core value of creation science is dishonesty. I was reminded of this yet again by an account by Todd Feeley of a RATE conference. RATE means “Radioisotopes and the Age of The Earth”, and they are an excuse for creationist frauds to get together and spout off misleading pseudoscientific babble to a gullible audience. There’s always trouble when someone who is not gullible and actually knows something about a subject attends, as in this case. Feeley asks the organizer a question:
I asked why no recognized experts on radiometric dating were
invited to participate in the conference, given that none of the
speakers had any training or experience in experimental
geochronology. He was candid enough to admit that they would
have liked to included one on the team, but there are no young-
earth geochronologists in the world.
These conferences have no competent qualified speakers; in fact, they always have the same tired old crackpots (Humphreys, Baumgardner, Snelling) saying exactly the same falsehoods over and over. These guys are in the business of selling humbug, and when you see their names you should simply ignore their work — it’s laced with lies.
Here’s another revealing moment: bogus data.
I also told him that he had a problem because the core
sample he showed in his talk from where his zircons were
separated was clearly a gneiss and not a granodiorite (‘with
schist veins through it’), as he claimed. I could see this from the
back row, as could the undergraduate geology students in
I don’t know schist and I can’t tell my gneiss from a hole in the ground, and I wouldn’t have been able to recognize these rocks if they were flashed at me on a screen; I do know that you shouldn’t confuse igneous with metamorphic rocks if you’re trying to date them, and that fudging your observations that badly means your whole argument is crap.
I’m reminded of the time a creationist tried to invite me to a creationist geology talk — that would have been a waste of effor. Expertise is real and it matters, and I have none in geology at all … but I do have a Ph.D. I’m sure my glazed-eyed bafflement at what any geologist would have recognized as truly stupid mistakes would have been taken as an affirmation, and that’s exactly what they want, to confuse their audiences and declare victory. They win when we’re all as ignorant as they are.