One more piece of creationist email for you: this one was addressed to me and all of my fraternity of Godless Atheists, which I think means you readers here. Never mind protesting that some of you are Christian—get used to it, to these guys you will never be truly Christian.
Anyway, it’s not a very entertaining letter. It was, as usual, amusingly formatted (Outlook Express is evil software), but I’ve stripped all that gunky Microsoft html out of it to simplify posting it. It’s your usual argument from poorly understood physics: the Big Bang is evidence of Jesus, really tiny numbers prove Jesus, mangled information theory proves Jesus. It does have one novel argument I haven’t seen before, that a kitchen spray bottle proves Jesus, but I don’t think it’s going to get much traction in the scientific community. I haven’t bothered to reply to it, but if anyone wants to shred the nonsense in the comments, maybe the authors will find it online.
Oh, and welcome to the Atheist Fraternity! Remember, we’re getting together with the Atheist Sorority on Friday night for a Toga Party!
To: PZ Myers biologist and associate professor at the University of Minnesota, Morris.
Mr Meyers, Godless Atheist
And all of your fraternity of Godless Atheists :
Have you ever heard of Stephen Hawkins? How about the big bang theory, ever hear about that?
Do you understand it? Do you understand Physics? What part of “Beginning” don’t you quite Grasp?
Are you aware of Albert Einstein?
Are you aware of any acknowledged greater minds in the history of the world than these two Gentlemen?
Ever heard the Joke about a group of Scientists challenging God because they had created life in a test tube? You God gathers his dust to create another man, and the scientists start gathering their dust. God tells the group of scientists, Whoa. Wait a minute fellows, create your own dust!
I am always amazed at people like you, you firmly and whole heartedly believe that what we know as the universe, came into being by some big whoops of nothing. That absolutely Nothing had anything to do with creation accept some unlimited number of coincidences, and yet you believe that a belief in an intelligent creator somehow endows total stupidity. May God strike me with the Stupidity of Einstein and Hawkins and lots of it.
Bring on the National Academy Of Science, all of the Non-believers, and evolutionists with their phoney theories which Darwin manufactured and lied about from the beginning. Talk about Faith! If anyone can accept all of the assumptions and maybes taught by these intellectually deprived Godless people of Science, their faith in an accidental whoops creation surpasses most Christian’s faith in God.
100 years ago this year, Albert Einstein published three papers that rocked the world. These papers proved the existence of the atom, introduced the theory of relativity, and described quantum mechanics and all of this at age 26.
His equations for relativity indicated that the universe was expanding. This bothered him, because if it was expanding, it must have had a beginning and a beginner. Since neither of these appealed to him, Einstein introduced a ‘fudge factor’ that ensured a ‘steady state’ universe, one that had no beginning or end.
But in 1929, Edwin Hubble showed that the furthest galaxies were fleeing away from each other, just as the Big Bang model predicted. So in 1931, Einstein embraced what would later be known as the Big Bang theory, saying, “This is the most beautiful and satisfactory explanation of creation to which I have ever listened.” He referred to the ‘fudge factor’ to achieve a steady-state universe as the biggest blunder of his career.
Einstein’s theories have been thoroughly proved and verified by experiments and measurements. But there’s an even more important implication of Einstein’s discovery.
Not only does the universe have a beginning, but time itself, our own dimension of cause and effect, began with the Big Bang.
That’s right — time itself does not exist before then. The very line of time begins with that creation event. Matter, energy, time and space were created in an instant by some intelligence existing outside of space and time.
About this intelligence, Albert Einstein wrote in his book “The World As I See It” that the harmony of natural law “Reveals an intelligence of such superiority that, compared with it, all the systematic thinking and acting of human beings is an utterly insignificant reflection.”
To quote Ann Coulter, “Liberal’s’ creation myth is Charles Darwin’s theory of evolution, which is about one notch above Scientology in scientific rigor. It’s a make-believe story, based on a theory that is a tautology, with no proof in the scientist’s laboratory or the fossil record- and that’s after 150 years of very determined looking. We wouldn’t still be talking about it but for the fact that liberals think evolution disproves God.”
“Although God believers don’t need evolution to be false, Godless atheists need evolution to be true. William Provine, an evolutionary biologist at Cornell University, calls Darwinism the greatest engine of atheism devised by man. His fellow Darwin disciple, Oxford zoologist Richard Dawkins famously said,” Darwin made it possible to be an intellectually fulfilled atheist.” [footnote omitted] This is why there is mass panic on the left whenever someone mentions the vast and accumulating evidence against evolution.”
Putting Liberal Mythology (Darwinism) in proper prospective.
On The Trash Heap!
The Big Bang theory was totally rejected at first. But those who supported it had predicted that the ignition of the Big Bang would have left behind a ‘hot flash’ of radiation.
If a big black wood stove produces heat that you can feel, then in a similar manner, the Big Bang should produce its own kind of heat that would echo throughout the universe.
In 1965, without looking for it, two physicists at Bell Labs in New Jersey found it. At first, Arno Penzias and Robert Wilson were bothered because, while trying to refine the world’s most sensitive radio antenna, they couldn’t eliminate a bothersome source of noise.They picked up this noise everywhere they pointed the antenna.
At first they thought it was bird droppings. The antenna was so sensitive it could pick up the heat of bird droppings (which certainly are warm when they’re brand new) but even after cleaning off the antenna, they still picked up this noise.
This noise had actually been predicted in detail by other astronomers, and after a year of checking and re-checking the data, they arrived at a conclusion: The Big Bang theory really was correct.
In an interview, Penzias was asked why there was so much resistance to the Big Bang theory.
He said, “Most physicists would rather attempt to describe the universe in ways which require no explanation. And since science can’t *explain* anything – it can only *describe* things – that’s perfectly sensible. If you have a universe which has always been there, you don’t explain it, right?
“Somebody asks you, “Why are all the secretaries in your company are women?” You can say, ‘Well, it’s always been that way.’ That’s a way of not having to explain it. So in the same way, theories which don’t require explanation tend to be the ones accepted by science, which is perfectly acceptable and the best way to make science work.”
But on the older theory that the universe was eternal, he explains: “It turned out to be so ugly that people dismissed it. What we find – the simplest theory – is a creation out of nothing, the appearance out of nothing of the universe.”
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Penzias and his partner, Robert Wilson, won the Nobel Prize for their discovery of this radiation. The Big Bang theory is now one of the most thoroughly validated theories in all of science.
Remember, Liberal Mythology teaches Darwinism, or Evolution by CHANCE!
While I admit that I am stupid (less intelligent than Liberals and non-Believers) in my stupidity I choose to believe in an Intelligent Creator,…GOD!
In your kitchen cabinet, you probably have a spray bottle with an adjustable nozzle. If you twist the nozzle one way, it sprays a fine mist into the air. You twist the nozzle the other way, it squirts a jet of water in a straight line. You turn that nozzle to the exact position you want so you can wash a mirror, clean up a spill, or whatever.
If the universe had expanded a little faster, the matter would have sprayed out into space like fine mist from a water bottle – so fast that a gazillion particles of dust would speed into infinity and never even form a single star.
If the universe had expanded just a little slower, the material would have dribbled out like big drops of water, then collapsed back where it came from by the force of gravity.
A little too fast, and you get a meaningless spray of fine dust. A little too slow, and the whole universe collapses back into one big black hole.
The surprising thing is just how narrow the difference is. To strike the perfect balance between too fast and too slow, the force, something that physicists call “the Dark Energy Term” had to be accurate to one part in ten with 120 zeros.
If you wrote this as a decimal, the number would look like this:
In their paper “Disturbing Implications of a Cosmological Constant” two atheist scientists from Stanford University stated that the existence of this dark energy term “Would have required a miracle…An external agent, external to space and time, intervened in cosmic history for reasons of its own.”
Just for comparison, the best human engineering example is the Gravity Wave Telescope, which was built with a precision of accuracy to one part in ten with 23 zeros. The Designer, this “external agent” that created our universe must possess an intellect, knowledge, creativity and power trillions and trillions of times greater than we humans have.
Now a person who doesn’t believe in God has to find some way to explain all of this. One of the more common explanations seems to be “There was an infinite number of universes, so it was inevitable that things would have turned out right in at least one of them.”
Assuming of course that the “Right Universe” is referring to our Universe.
The “infinite universes” theory is truly an amazing theory. Just think about it, if there is an infinite number of universes, then absolutely everything is not only possible…It’s actually happened, or is happening! That to me is even more amazing than a single Universe Theory, but to the Non-believer, this sorta, kinda, maybe says …… CHANCE, or that there is no intelligent designer we may refer to as GOD!
Some people believe in God with a capital G.
And some folks believe in Chance with a Capital C. This is perfect idiocy, accurate to one part in ten with 120 zeros.
America, please come back to God, he will accept you and forgive you with open arms. God is certainly aware of how tough it is here, but don’t blame God for so many turning to evil. God did not force Eve to accept Satan’s temptation. God does not force each of us to accept Satan’s plan and not God’s plan of Redemption.
Those of us who are Believers in God and his plan of salvation through Messiah Yeshua/Jesus, and those of us who read his word the Holy Bible, know and have heard these words expressed many times:
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
The message contained within these few simple words in John 1:1 are absolute proof of the existence of God the creator of all that there is, was, or ever shall be. People who may have dozens of degrees through education after there names, are themselves proof that God exists simply because of that education.
We know that the God’s word teaches us that all that was created by God, was created through Yeshua/Jesus, the Word of God. God spoke creation into being by and through his son Yeshua/Jesus. That nothing was made or created that was not created by God in this manner.
We are taught also through God’s Holy Word that Yeshua/Jesus is God, manifested in the flesh as a human to offer to the world God’s true plan of salvation through faith in God’s work as Yeshua/Jesus as the Christ. Faith that the Christ accepted God’s wrath for our sins in our place by allowing himself to be Crucified for all the sins of all men who would accept his redemption through simple faith offered to us by God as describe in the New Testament.
This email is proof of the existence of God. This email you’re reading contains letters, words and sentences. It contains a message that means something. As long as you can read English, you can understand the message in this email, and it’s meaning.
The email as a carrier is meaningless, and immaterial. The information that is contained by the email carrier however, is itself a very unique kind of entity. It can be stored and transmitted and copied in many forms, but the meaning and intent of the information should remain the same.
Information via messages can be in English, French or Chinese. Morse Code, or mating calls of birds, or sent over the Internet, radio or television, or computer programs, or architect blueprints or even stone carvings. With all of this in mind, understand that every cell in our body contains a message encoded in DNA, representing a complete plan for each of us.
OK, so what does this all have to do with proof about the existence of God?
It’s very simple. Messages, languages, and coded information can ONLY come from an intelligent mind. A mind that agrees on an alphabet and a meaning of words and sentences. A mind that expresses both desire and intent. Whether we use the simplest possible explanation, such as the one in this email, or if we analyze language with advanced mathematics and engineering communication theory, We may say this with total confidence:
“Messages, languages and coded information never, ever come from anything else besides a mind. No one has ever produced a single example of a message that did not come from a mind.”
Nature can create fascinating patterns – snowflakes, sand dunes, crystals, stalagmites and stalagtites. Tornados and turbulence and cloud formations. But non-living things cannot create language. They *cannot* create codes. Rocks cannot think and they cannot talk. And they cannot create information. Not without God’s help of course!
It is believed and taught by many that life on planet earth arose naturally from the “primordial soup,” the early ocean which produced enzymes and eventually RNA, DNA, and primitive cells.
But there is still a problem with this theory: It fails to answer the question, ‘Where did the information come from originally?
DNA has a four-letter alphabet, and structures very similar to words, sentences and paragraphs. With very precise instructions.
DNA is not merely a molecule. Nor is it simply a “pattern.” Yes DNA, contains chemicals and proteins, but those chemicals are arranged to form an intricate language, in the exact same way that English, Russian and Chinese and even HTML are languages.
To anyone who believes and teaches that life arose naturally and was not created by God with an intelligent mind, they must then explain: “Where did the information come from? Is anyone able to show just ONE example of a language that didn’t come from a mind?”
As simple as this question is, neither you and certainly not one of your so-called highly educated Godless cohorts are able to explain where the information came from. This riddle is “So simple any child can understand, yet so complex, not one unbeliever or atheist can solve it.”
Original Theory By Perry Marshall
Edited in part by D. Donohew
I think you’ll agree, this one was less TimeCubish, and written more in the style of Early Godbotian.