Where’s the Concentration Camp?


As many people as ICE is abducting right now, where are they being sent?  Because as diverse as Minneapolis is, even a lightning speed deportation can’t happen fast enough to dozens of nations around the world.  Tons of Somalians in the US were born here.  They don’t even have citizenship in Somalia.

If there isn’t a concentration camp, they probably have a dozen or more spread around the city in warehouses and railroad cars and shit.  I have read the white people they arrest are beaten and abused but released in an average of 48 hours to make room for caging those with darker skin tones.

I’ve read Walz is not seeking reelection because of nazi death threats.  If I didn’t have a family depending on me, man, I don’t know what the fuck I’d do, but … so easy to imagine making that blood flow.  Death to all nazis now, regardless of what labels they’ve chosen for themselves, what flag they’re flying.  Eat shit and die, motherfuckers, please.

Anyway, on the antidoomerism policy, it does continue to be true that 99.9% of us will not become victims of this political violence, and life under fascism can suck but it can still be a life, with whatever moments of joy that can hold.  Let nobody who is frightened of these fucking monsters allow that fear to harm them in any way.

Long live the fighters in Minneapolis, LA, Chicago, Portland, wherever the jackboot treads.  May your enemies die face down in their own blood and piss.  No justice no peace.

Comments

  1. another stewart says

    The reports that I’ve seen is that ICE is using somewhere in Fort Snelling. (Presumably not the historical landmark site.)

  2. Katydid says

    I have read of a number of cases of people from Country A (e.g. Central/South America) being deported to Country B (e.g. some African country that accepts money in exchange for taking in deportees) and have wondered the same thing–these deportees do not have citizenship in those countries and do not speak the language. The cruelty to the deportees is the point.

    Another case I’ve been seeing in the news lately is an American citizen (born in the USA–not naturalized later) who was grabbed and moved to a number of locations around the country. Somehow she’s been able to speak to reporters, but she only speaks Spanish, which annoys me. When living in San Diego, I used to cross the border (this is when all you needed was a driver’s license as proof of ID) all the time with a friend to go shopping, etc., and most of the people living there spoke English, from “good enough to communicate with tourists” to “completely fluent”. I asked once and was told they got American tv and radio stations so everyone grew up hearing English. So, IMO, it takes a real effort to be born and raised in the USA–where they get tv and radio–and not be able to speak the language.

  3. says

    some people just lack a knack for language, some communities are more isolated than others. u gotta admit this was a pretty fuckin absurd article on which to voice that specific annoyance.

  4. Tethys says

    They are flying them to states like Texas, regardless of the fact that many of the people they have detained are completely legal immigrants with green cards. Yesterday the evil bastards pulled a 76 year old man out of his home, in the 3 fucking degree weather in crocs and his underwear despite him being a citizen. They eventually released him but that’s how these assholes operate.

    Yes, the historic site. It is very conveniently adjacent to the Airport.

    The B.H. Whipple Building, originally constructed in 1965, occupies an 11 acre site located in Fort Snelling, southeast of downtown Minneapolis, Minnesota. It houses multiple governmental agencies.

  5. Katydid says

    @3, I think you’re missing the point entirely. An adult having grown up and still living in the country of her birth and not speaking the language? That’s pretty blatantly stupid and self-defeating–and how can she be able to understand what’s going on around her now? She’s at the mercy of the federally-appointed translator. It’s not “oh, she just doesn’t have a knack for languages”, it’s “she couldn’t be bothered to learn”–and now she’s made herself doubly vulnerable.

  6. John Morales says

    Katydid, that story appears apocryphal.
    Seriously, it would take remarkable dedication or isolation to grow up in the USA and not speak English.

    I had a look:
    >Nothing in the search results matches the specific scenario described in that blog comment:
    • a U.S.–born citizen
    • “grabbed and moved to a number of locations around the country”
    • “only speaks Spanish”
    • and has been speaking to reporters
    The reports that do exist are all about something else: short‑term detentions of U.S. citizens (usually Puerto Rican) after being overheard speaking Spanish. None involve being transported around the country or being unable to speak English.
     
    🔍 What the search actually turned up
    All the results cluster around one story:
    – A Puerto Rican mother, her child, and her mother‑in‑law were reportedly detained in Milwaukee after being overheard speaking Spanish.
    – They were released after showing proof of citizenship.
    – The story is still being verified by local officials in Milwaukee.
    There are also unrelated cases of U.S. citizens detained by ICE for long periods, but those individuals do speak English and the circumstances are different (e.g., Mario René López in Virginia).

  7. says

    you’re missing the point badly. there are rural places inside the usa where spanish is the only language spoken, a person could be born into one of them. i could ass pull a few more edge scenarios, but my actual point is that your complaint about her is indistinguishable from common complaints made by racists, and you made this point on a post where op is so mad about racists their eyeballs are bulging out and they’re screaming for blood. just seems outrageously oblivious to me, i dunno. read the room.

  8. chigau (違う) says

    Katydid #6
    You speak only English American, n’est ce pas?
    Being able to watch and mostly understand English-language movies and TV does not impart the ability to negotiate with cops in English.

  9. chigau (違う) says

    OK
    can I do another OT?
    *****
    How do you feel about songs from your ***favourite*** time period used to sell stuff now?
    There is a current ad for disposable diaper that uses Steppenwolf’s “Born To Be Wild”.
    A few years ago a *BANK* used Dylan’s “The Times They Are A-Changin’ ” in their ads.
    I mean … srsly WTF

  10. says

    steppenwolf’s born to be wild has been used in so many grody or absurd contexts, it’s similar to r-e-s-p-e-c-t or bad to the bone. all of those are groanworthy in the commercial or movie soundtrack, but still capable of being cool when you pop in the tape, somehow. the bank thing is pretty groas.

    my time is the grunge era and somehow most of those songs don’t translate well to commercials. i’m guessing soundgarden has found its way into a few, but i am hardcore enough with my adblocking and muting that i’ve never heard it.

  11. chigau (違う) says

    My interest in “current pop music” kinda fizzled after around the time of Kate Bush and Annie Lennox.
    I went more to folk music and classical (Mozart, Beethoven).
    However
    I reckon I could lead a sing-along of the entirety of Rocky Horror Picture Show AND Jesus Christ Superstar.
    (not at the same time)
    also Barrett’s Privateers

  12. chigau (違う) says

    A few years ago (Caine was still alive), I had a chance to see a live stage production of Rocky Horror.
    I dithered because I would have had to go alone.
    I dithered long enough to have lost the chance to buy a ticket.
    so it goes

  13. says

    aww. that might be a pretty different vibe from the screenings. personally, i enjoy the movie better without the foolery. no judgement for them that seek the ritual.

  14. Katydid says

    (strikethru by beeb to make this easier to ignore for those who would prefer to while still having it available for the curious) @9, Chigau; I grew up speaking Norwegian and English daily in the home with my first-generation American parents, but I started school in Japan, at a Japanese school, when we lived in Japan for five years. We then went to Puerto Rico, where we also lived for five years and spoke Spanish at school and in the community. Then to the Philippines for a couple of years, where you needed a working knowledge of Tagalog to keep from being kidnapped or just merely robbed or raped. We landed in Hawaii in the mid-1970s, coinciding with the renewed desire to teach the Hawaiian language and culture in schools, and informally we spoke Pidgin (a creole that’s a mix of Hawaiian, Japanese, Chinese, and Spanish with some English thrown in) with friends and neighbors. Finally, my godparents were Italian and the summers my siblings and I spent in their home, we all spoke Italian. And I’ve been told my English is okay.

    My foreign-born grandparents all spoke English well enough to manage daily life despite not being born or raised in the USA. My parents are bilingual, my generation is fluent but not bilingual and the next generation is conversant but not fluent. However, every generation born on American soil speak English. Because you have to work REALLY REALLY HARD to never watch television, listen to the radio, see a movie, stream a subscription channel, go shopping, or go to school in the USA.

    And a five-second google, JohnMorales, turned up this story that I saw on tv: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/09/maryland-woman-us-citizen-released-ice-custody, but the very next search also turned up a whole family from Puerto Rico, held in detention, who also only speak Spanish: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ice-says-sorry-after-detaining-us-citizens-for-speaking-spanish-report/ar-AA1y5uOh

    There were more links but I think I’ve reached the limit where my links aren’t

  15. Katydid says

    @9, chigau, because my work involved travel and customer engagement, je parle et lis un peu de français aussi, ook ik spreek en beetje nederlandse taal.

  16. Katydid says

    Last word on the topic: the fact that JohnMorales is writing to us in English and occasionally using Australian words or phrases is proof right there that it is completely possible to speak the language of the country one lives in. Humans are wired for speech, and to pretend it’s utterly impossible for the average person to learn the language they’re born into and surrounded by is just (deleted for ableism).

  17. says

    one warning and im going to ban you. for fuck’s sake, have you never in your life heard racists complain about how they refuse to speak the language and won’t integrate? do you not get how insulting someones intelligence when they’re in a gulag is rude petty absurd shit? i get feeling defensive when people say you’re wrong about something, but this is fucked up. sort yourself out and shut up about this one or don’t talk on my blog again.

  18. chigau (違う) says

    Is the subject still OK? ’cause I have an old story.
    My mother’s parents died over 50 years ago. They were Hungarian immigrants farming in southern Manitoba. My family used to drive for visits from southern Alberta once (or twice) a year.
    The Uncles and Aunts were fluent in English (having learned it in school from French-Canadian Nuns).
    Grandpa spoke enough English to deal with the merchants and neighbours.
    I don’t recall Grandma ever speaking English, I think she never left the farm.
    however
    She and I watched “Dark Shadows” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Shadows together on the tiny B&W TV and had a wonderful time.
    She loved the show because, being a Hungarian peasant, she had had a number of close personal encounters with supernatural beings.

  19. says

    ………….. ill allow eet. dark shadows u say? i dont know much about it, just the basic basics. what did you like about it? how much translation did she need for the show? she just get the plot from context?

  20. chigau (違う) says

    I liked everything about Dark Shadows. Especially the werewolf, Quentin.
    The whole cast was is in all the Teen Magazines at the time. Especially Quentin.
    I may have had a crush on Quentin. He was very Heathcliff.
    .
    I reckon Gran understood every word. Just because she would not speak English doesn’t mean she didn’t understand it.

  21. says

    katydid, you’re banned. i hardly feel like explaining why because you have consistently failed to understand what i’m saying, and have been rude about it as well. goodbye.

  22. chigau (違う) says

    That kinda makes me sad because I remember katydid as being a sensible commenter.
    but memory can be … faulty

  23. says

    it’s funny to think about who’s banned and not banned around here. what kinda show am i runnin?

    i’ll leave this much explanation: intent is not magic. additional explanation and defensiveness about that position (“they should’ve just learned english’) does not change the fact it is a position commonly espoused by xenophobes around the world. the more you expound on it, the less comfortable a place my comment section is for a random immigrant who happens by it, the more i look racist for hosting your tirade.

    this is all without saying you are racist in the slightest, as the person who holds this annoyance with this particular victim of ameriKKKan racism. you laid out your reasons why this seems like a legitimate annoyance to you, irrespective of race. why, just how could this foolish person have ended up unable to communicate in the majority language of the country into which she was born? preposterous, you say, for so many reasons, in so many ways!

    but you’re still saying a lot of shit racists say, in my blog comments, with zero self awareness or contrition, doing nothing but doubling and tripling down when called on to simply stop digging your fucking hole. i ain’t with that. conversation over.