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  1. John Morales says

    “ICE doesn’t care about the law.”

    Of course it does. It purports to be executing the law.

    (ahem; that is, enforcing it. My Freudian)

  2. John Morales says

    [OTWell, Birger, I’m not one to put money in Zuck’s pocket unlike you, but easy enough to check:

    “The 262 men of the 1st Minnesota held the line against all odds and Union reinforcements drove back the remaining Confederates. However, their actions came at a great cost, of the 262 men that went in to battle, 47 walked away unharmed. 215 men were either killed or wounded and the regiment suffered a casualty rate of 82%, the highest of any single regiment for a battle. The regiment also lost every one of their field commanders in the assault.”
    (https://www.civilwarmed.org/1st-minnesota-at-gettysburg/)

    No worries. 82% casualty rate, but a mention in the history books!

    Saved the North is a bit, well, excited.
    The one decisive action of the war, you reckon?

  3. birgerjohansson says

    ‘The one decisive action of the war, you reckon?’

    Not even close, but their sacrifice mattered for that particular battle.
    And they got nearly wiped out.

    This reminds me…it is surprisingly easy to get people to have physical courage, but really hard to get them to show moral courage.
    (glares at US congressmen)

  4. John Morales says

    [OT]

    “And they got nearly wiped out.”

    Yah. Shame that was not part of the headline.

    Again: facebook (‘meta’) views put $$$ in Zuck’s pocket.
    Not gonna happen by me.

    So: don’t mess with Minessota, for the Minnesotans shall nearly get wiped out is a more appropriate headline. Of course, then you would not have adduced it. Because for you, headlines are it, best as I can tell.

    262 men in the context of that war << the 300 Spartans in that little war.

    (But, to be fair, they did better than the Spartans, so there’s that. Yay!)

    I betcha anything that if they had not held the line until the reinforcements saved them, it would not have materially changed the overall outcome.

    You seriously stand by “saved the North”, or no?

    Point is, they are not specially special.

    Don’t mess with X is pretty much an universal claim — much more so when they are not peer adversaries, unlike that example. Not like the Minnesotans had only shield and spears and the Confederacy had machine guns and rifles, eh?

  5. Tethys says

    Saved the Union, the North was never in danger from a bunch of corn-pone slavers. Gettysburg was indeed where the 1st Minnesota turned the tide against the Confederacy, but of course the resident Cabrón needs to Baaaaah about it.

    It was a couple more years before the Civil war ended.

    The 1st Minnesota faced overwhelming odds and held off against a force almost six times as large as their own.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aTMrHwVbI9Y&pp=0gcJCTIBo7VqN5tD

  6. Tethys says

    Most historians agree that the actions of the 1st Minnesota at Gettysburg were the crucial factor in the Union victory. The were also at Bull Run, and other battles, but Gettysburg turned the tide.

    We still have Virginia’s flag and proudly display it at our History Museum. Every few years they ask for it back and we say “Lol, never gonna happen.”

  7. John Morales says

    [OT]

    “Most historians agree that the actions of the 1st Minnesota at Gettysburg were the crucial factor in the Union victory.”

    Talk about a derail.

    More to the point, no. Your claim is counterfactual.

    Who started talking about the actions of the 1st Minnesota at Gettysburg, again?

    (You can lie to yourself, Tethys, but not to others about verifiable facts)

  8. indianajones says

    Tethys, birgerjohansson, your time is being wasted…

    Nice work Wrecktangle Pizza folks!

  9. John Morales says

    indianajones: Nice work Wrecktangle Pizza folks!

    Folk is a subset of people. Folks is the set of subsets of people. FWTW.

    This is the summary of the video: when the federal agents arrived at Wrecktangle Pizza, staff blocked their entry and forced them back outside. As the agents withdrew, they released chemical irritants into the crowd. Word of the confrontation spread quickly through the neighbourhood, and nearby residents and businesses mobilised, gathering supplies and supporting immigrants who feared further enforcement activity. The restaurant, already active in local aid efforts, continued distributing food and resources as the community organised around it.

    This is Birger:

    The First Minnesotan regiment saved the North at Gettysburg.
    Don’t mess with Minnesotans.

    .https://www.facebook.com/share/p/14NZur1HybE/

    Nice work indeed, indy.

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