The woman shot in Minneapolis was named Renee Nicole Good. She was a wife and mother, and was acting as a legal observer of ICE activities in her city. She was murdered by one of 2000 ICE thugs who had been intentionally deployed to Minneapolis to harass and kidnap people who didn’t look white enough, as part of a campaign by our president to punish the state for voting against him, under the pretext that some people committed fraud in 2020. That fraud case has been in the courts for years, and is being dealt with legally, with many convictions. Having masked, armed men roaming the city does not contribute in any way to the processing of the court case.
Since early December, agents from Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), Customs and Border Protection and Homeland Security Investigations – many of them masked and brandishing rifles – have grabbed people at hardware stores and gyms, or outside homes and schools around the cities. They have violently tackled undocumented immigrants as well as US citizens, including advocates and protestors.
By the time Good was shot on Wednesday – in broad daylight, as dozens of bystanders screamed in shock – local leaders and human rights advocates had been bracing for a catastrophe.
But there they are, shooting people.
Meanwhile, Kristi Noem, who was not there, is lying about the events of last night. She calls Renee Nicole Good a domestic terrorist
.
An ICE vehicle had become stuck in the snow, Noem said, and officers were attempting to push it out “when a mob of agitators that were harassing them all day began blocking them in shouting at them and impeding law enforcement operations.”
…
ICE officers approached a woman in her vehicle, who Noem said “was blocking the officers in with her car.” She said the woman had been “stalking and impeding their work all throughout the day.”ICE agents ordered her out of the car, telling her to stop obstructing law enforcement, Noem said. “But she refused to obey her commands.”
“She then proceeded to weaponize her vehicle, and she attempted to run a law enforcement officer over,” Noem said. “This appears as an attempt to kill or to cause bodily harm to agents, an act of domestic terrorism.”
All lies. You’ve seen the video.
It’s going to get worse. ICE is exercising no restraint.
In Minneapolis, residents and organizers were bracing for more violence. Hours after Good’s death, about 3 miles (5km) from where she was shot on Wednesday, armed immigration officers descended on Minneapolis’s Roosevelt high school, tackled people, handcuffed two staff members and released chemical weapons on bystanders, school officials told MPR.
Noem must be impeached, ICE must be disbanded, and Donald Trump…I don’t want to say what should be done with Trump, because what he deserves is not pretty.
Minneapolis is getting ready. This crisis is not over.
This was probably illegal.
They need probable cause and a warrant signed by a judge to enter a school, IIRC.
The violence was also almost certainly illegal. ICE has been in trouble with the courts for a year over using excessive force.
Noem is lying.
All the MAGAs lie a lot.
We all know who the domestic terrorists are.
The right wing thugs that Trump recruited to terrorize the American population.
The DofJustice which has been subverted from Justice to terrorizing opponents of the regime.
It’s working but it isn’t.
I’m afraid of the GOP, Trump, and his goon squads.
I’m also getting totally fed up and angry about everything to do with the GOP and their attemps to destroy the USA.
Not enough protests.
What is the name of the murderer?
@ ^ chigau (違う) : I;’ve seen fb posts naming him but haven’t verified them as fact yet so will wait until we know for sure.
Tonight’s Colbert show “A Cold-Blooded Murder” – Chris Hayes Reacts To Video Of The Deadly ICE Shooting In Minneapolis – 8 mins long,
I went to the protest/ vigil last night.
There were hundreds of people there. People would come, and then leave, and more people would come. There were speakers, but I couldn’t hear them at all- note to organizers you need sound systems and at least a soap box. But otherwise I was pretty impressed with how quickly it went together and how many people came. There were volunteers controlling traffic for blocks around. We had a weird scare when it looked like a driver was going to drive through the protest, but he instead got help turning around on the one-way road that was blocked instead. Seems like confusion (understandable) and not malice.
Also, these protests always smell of smoke. Can you guys just not smoke when there are so many of us packed together? It’s really gross. I know it’s outside, but my winter gear still smells like it.
Sadly, for years now the big powers – USA, Russia, China – have been deliberately proving that there’s no such thing as international law. And now USA join the other two in proving that there’s no such thing as law, full stop. When there’s no way of bringing criminals to account, law becomes merely a constraint which can be applied arbitrarily to those you don’t like, or don’t care about if someone else is applying it. In point of fact, that’s historically the norm.
Via facebook an excellent piece here in my view by Rachel Hurley (Rachelandthecity) who makes some good points very powerfully :
Source : https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=3797130323756476&set=a.251351805001030
@ chigau (違う) : Oh and I’ve just seen another different name fro the killer on fb so at least one person (quote possibly two or more) is being wrongly named as the killer here. Until we know I’m not ging to say either one.
Owen Jones on this here –
ICE Agent MURDERS Woman In Minnesota – FASCISM Is Conquering America – 17 mins.
You know what most people are afraid of? Spiders!
You know who is raising legions of spiders deep in his secret volcano lair? Yeah, that guy, disguised as a mild-mannered pipe-smoking professor in a tweed jacket. Don’t be fooled! Domestic Terrorists are EVERYWHERE!
I’ve got to write down a somewhat more severe criticism this time.
PLEASE DO NOT EVER LINK TO A PAGE THAT’S BY FOX.
That’s because of the way search engines work. If many websites link to a certain specific website, this latter website will be considered more relevant by the search engine and placed earlier in any result lists.
My memory fails me…I’m old…but this incident reminds me of something…oh yeah: Kent State, Ohio, 1970.
May Trump dance the Spandau ballet with such grace that his feet never touch the ground.
Whatever happened to Republican efforts to get the federal government out of everyone’s lives? Is there just a little selective memory — just a little hypocrisy — involved in having a massive recruiting campaign for ICE agents at the same time those who handle disaster release are being let go in “reduction-in-force” efforts?
Never mind. I think we know the answers…
@14:
My understanding of dementia is that there’s a point where the afflicted can have moments when their actions are very clearly dementia, as well as moments where they’re aware of how far they’ve fallen and how out of control their life now is. If his health doesn’t fail him first, Trump will reach that point where it’s all slipping away, and where he’ll realize that he no longer has the power to change his fate. And his suck-ups will realize that his ship is sinking, no longer fearing the idea of fleeing it.
I fully agree with the Minneapolis mayor and his language is completely appropriate for this murderous insanity
PZ said ‘our president’
I reply: No matter what anyone claims, the only appropriate titles for him are Convicted Felon, Liar, Murderer, Pedophile, Fascist pile of Impeached Excrement!
shermanj — You omitted rapist.
@19 robro commented: shermanj — You omitted rapist.
I reply: you are exactly correct. However, there are many more evils about him that I haven’t taken the time to remember right now.
It has already gotten worse. The FBI is preventing local authorities from investigating the murder. No justice no peace.
[OT]
“Can you guys just not smoke when there are so many of us packed together?”
No. Smokers are addicts.
[OT]
What, you don’t wish this site to be considered more relevant by the search engine and placed earlier in any result lists?
John @22:
Yes. We are addicts, but most of us can get by for a few hours using nicotine gum or other products.
The name of the murderer has been revealed: it’s Jonathan Ross.
Nazi Punks, Fuck Off
Question at hand is: will there be consequences.
(Not just to the murderer who pulled the trigger, but to the ones who set it up)
Jaws@15–
Because the “get the Feds out of our lives” was always a lie. What it meant was “get the Feds out of MY life (no matter how antisocial or illegal my activities), and sic ’em onto gays, people of color, Muslims, trans people, non-violent political opponents, etc. (no matter how prosocial and legal their activities) instead.”
As I expected, the right-wing is smearing the victim:
From Fox News:
“The woman who lost her life was a self-proclaimed poet from Colorado, with pronouns in her bio. A 37-year-old white woman named Renee Good. The Daily Mail says she leaves behind a lesbian partner and a child from a previous marriage. She was a disruptor, though she considered herself a legal observer.”
Not only was she all of those bad things, she wasn’t shot and murdered, she just “lost her life.”
She was also the mother of 3 children, one of them a 6 year old.
Of course, the GOP, who once called themselves incorrectly, the family values party could care less about that.
raven, for people like me, “could care less” lexically and semantically and unambigiously means you actually could care less. I know it’s basically exclusively an USAnian figure of speech, but it is so irritating!
(Bit of a shibboleth, and how do you actually convey the sentiment that you could actually not care less than you do is left unspoken)
She was returning home after taking her 6 year old to school. Her neighbors can be heard shouting “What did you do?! What the fuck did you just DO?!”
Filming law enforcement officers is one of the methods used by residents of both Twin Cities to hold them to account.
She has two older children by her first husband, and her second husband died a few years ago. I am unsurprised that trolls are getting emotional because she referred to herself as her. I wonder how many of the horrible comments are coming from troll bots and troll farms.
Fuck John, do you really think some grammar policing with a side dig of insulting Americans is appropriate?
I’m sure Raven couldn’t care less about your personal opinion. Kibbutz off.
[meta]
“Fuck John, do you really think some grammar policing with a side dig of insulting Americans is appropriate?”
To what alleged policing do you intend to refer, Tethys?
Were I to write “Fuck
JohnTethys, do you really think some tone policing with a side dig of insulting non-Americans is appropriate?”, how do you think you’d take that?I am most sure your personal opinion is not gonna change my very nature.
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Do you really not see how your complaint about me is kinda meta, and no different in nature to my complaint about that idiomatic use?
I am irriated, which irritated you, whence upon you kibbutzed in.
(The irony probably does elude you)
John Morales #31
That battle is long lost.
like “flammable” “inflammable” and others
Tethys #33
WTF is wrong with you?
[thanks, chigau @35]
Sombre circumstances, I get the sentiment at hand.
I reckon we both do.
One might have imagined that my #27 would convey my feelings about the topic itself, but no.
antigone10 #6
If you do not ever go outside any more, you will be safe.
maybe
If anyone is feeling like the last week has been an eternity of misery, Heather Cox Richardson has posted a video about the notable change in pushback that has occurred today in politics. Cats sleeping with dogs, Republicans joining all the Democrats to override veto’s, extend healthcare credits for two years, and rein in orangeadolph’s attempted takeover over anywhere including Venezuela.
Here in MN, local government is asserting its jurisdiction and pushing back at the attempted FBI takeover of the ICE murder case. 12 minutes.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Mon0BMJgHB8
@ Chigau
An Ice thug shot a Mom in the face in my city, and John’s grammar cop routine is beyond annoying.
My patience with his sniping is worn clean through.
What’s wrong with you?
[meta]
An Ice thug shot a Mom in the face in my city, and John’s grammar cop routine is beyond annoying.
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An Ice thug shot a Mom in the face in my city, and Tethys’ tome cop routine is beyond annoying.
Perfect parallel form. Evident hypocrisy.
(Does not register, does it, Tethys?)
Tethys
An ICE thug shot a Mom in the face in your city and patience with John Morales sniping is worn clean through.
Bless your heart.
this is no surprise is it. The experiments has been done years ago. You give people power over some others who can be safely dehumanized with the added ability to hide their own identity and abuse knows no limits. We all remember kids in cages the last time this has been awaited all along.
the great man has no plan he is just getting off on the violence, and destruction. It is all of a piece
That wouldn’t have anything to do with presidents having the power to pardon federal but not state crimes, would it? Or am I being too cynical.
@29 flange
Someone should remind them of the rules they instituted just a few months ago: anyone who speaks poorly of a shooting victim, even if their descriptions are accurate or they are qutoing them verbatim, should be fired.
They can’t actually do that.
The FBI has no legal right to tell state and local police what to do.
They might be able to hinder the local police by hiding and withholding some physical evidence such as the bloody car or the body.
The states can always go to court to get access and it will probably be granted.
They don’t need that anyway.
There are many videos and many eye witnesses and a Habeas Corpus (have body, literal meaning). Renee Good is unequivocally dead.
This is just cruelty theater.
.1. We’ve been enforced our immigration laws for a century without masked, anonymous thugs invading grade schools, shooting and killing people, firing tear gas everywhere, and shooting steel cored rubber pullets and pepper balls.
We don’t need this performance to enforce the laws.
I pass local and state police often. They are never masked, never anonymous, and never invading churches, schools, and work places in gangs, without good reasons.
.2. It’s the same with reducing the number of people on Medicaid and food stamps. The GOP just wants to see more homeless, sick, and hungry people. It is a bonus when they are also children.
.3. The alleged drug boat murders in the Caribbean.
This isn’t law enforcement. It is murder.
The US coast guard stops dozens of boats and searches them every day. If they have contraband, they get arrested.
It is just cruelty theater.
It is a lot like the ancient Roman gladiator games, except that the Romans were more organized and had more equally armed combatants, at least most of the time.
A lot of people have pointed out that Trump is a cruel and sadistic creep, going all the way in a simple internet search to 2018.
There is even a book on it from 2021, “Jul 13, 2021 — The Cruelty Is The Point: The Past, Present, and Future of Trump’s America, is journalist Adam Serwer’s new book, based on a popular essay …”
I’m going to let the Google search summarize it, edited for length.
Will Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei come to the rescue of American protestors?
Is this true??!!
https://bsky.app/profile/democrats.org/post/3mbzajnr6xz2k
(@ Morales
It’s not “to[n]e policing” you idiot. It’s disgust at your blithe banality. I suspect a disgust almost universally shared outside of your weeaboo fanboi.)
df #50
Provide links to every comment I’ve ever made claiming to be Japanese.
Provide links to every comment I’ve ever made claiming to be male.
PUT UP OR SHUT UP
I prefer the bob the misgendering troll would be silent.
I am unbothered about the grumbling compliance of John and Chigau in response to my unfiltered anger over derailing.
The protests are growing, despite the horrible wintry weather. The National Guard Troops just arrived in the Capitol via helicopter convoy. It’s like Apocalypse Now comes to the North. The residents of the inner cities are tapping into all the righteous anger we bottled up since living through three days of arsonists, smoke filled air, curfews, and constant sirens. Pulling out our phones and recording all law enforcement is SOP in our neighborhoods since George Floyd was murdered.
We will not be cooperating. Winter is here. The north remembers.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_cCGzQtRXm4
Tethys @52: Unfortunately, responding to John in these circumstances just results in further derailment. Best policy is ignoring the initial derailment.
I say that as someone who often appreciates John’s and chigau’s contributions.
@ Rob
He did protest as expected, but also complied. (Which I appreciate) I have a lifetime of experience wrangling people who are on the Aspie side of things being bewildered by people having emotional reactions to their oh so logical behavior. Human emotions aren’t logical, but they aren’t irrational either.
[OT]
Actually, Rob, that is not an universal rule.
Much depends on the response.
When I am accused in an utterly hypocritical manner, I note that.
Again:
An Ice thug shot a Mom in the face in my city, and John’s grammar cop routine is beyond annoying.
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An Ice thug shot a Mom in the face in my city, and Tethys’ tome cop routine is beyond annoying.
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Go on. Tell me that is not a perfect parallel.
Also, I don’t put that up as an actual proposition; it is there to illustrate that with which I am routinely faced.
Exactly the same thing.
(At least I have a modicum of self-reflexiveness)
Anyway, she sure could care less.
“I have a lifetime of experience wrangling people who are on the Aspie side of things being bewildered by people having emotional reactions to their oh so logical behavior.”
You flatter yourself. YOU ARE DOING THE SAME FUCKING THING.
ps. I too appreciate John and Chigau, despite the snarky defensive replies.
The incessant Grammar policing and bob, not so much.
@John
Shhhhhhhhhhh. Let it go.
People writing “an universal…” bugs me. Nobody says that. Say “a universal” three times…
But innocent people getting shot in the face bugs me much, much more.
You really don’t see what you are doing, do ya?
I am on the Aspie side, you imagine.
So I must be bewildered by people having emotional reactions to their oh so logical behavior.
You really are very clueless. If you knew me, you’d know I am rather strongly emotional.
Way to diminish the status of Aspergers, too. Because only those people can be logical, eh?
Point is, I am in no way as you fondly imagine during your Walter Mitty flights of fantasy. I know damn well your emotional reaction (“Sombre circumstances, I get the sentiment at hand.”).
You’re appealing to the concept of ‘blasphemy’ or at the least ‘lèse-majesté’.
YOU jumped in at my comment to another person, YOU did what you accuse me of doing.
That is the original derail.
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“People writing “an universal…” bugs me. Nobody says that. Say “a universal” three times…”
There you go. What happened to the gravity of this post? ;)
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“But innocent people getting shot in the face bugs me much, much more.”
What if they’re not innocent? Does it bug you then?
(Me, if I get shot and killed within seconds, I’ll not worry where specifically I get shot)
John @31: I have to agree with Tethys — your linguistic quibbling is very telligent.
Silentbob @50: On what basis do you call Chigau a “weeaboo?” Do you even know what the word means?
Raging Bee, here is Tethys, with whom you allegedly agree:
You:
I do see your attempted witticism, BTW. Take away the ‘in’ in ‘intelligent’.
I’ll spare you my assessment of its merit as either badinage or drollery, never mind putdown.
How your own quibbling and sniping itself is assessable, well… that too I shall spare you.
But given it’s your entry-point comment, I think it’s not unfair to characterise it as sniping.
Also, this ‘aspie whisperer’ conceit and its supposed applicability to me is a bit on the nose, not just remarkably opinionated and utterly wrong; do you agree with that? Insulting to both me and ‘aspies’.
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I remind you of my #27:
“Question at hand is: will there be consequences.
(Not just to the murderer who pulled the trigger, but to the ones who set it up)”
Too obscure? How it plays out matters.
It is another normative figleaf forgone.
A Rubicon, past the pale, that sort of thing.
A red line no more.
That is to say, significant.
Raging Bee #60
You won’t get an answer to that from Silentbob.
He is too chickenshit.
Rob Grigjanis #59
I dispute the linguistic portion of your comment. Writing and speaking are different.
(yor welcum for that insite)
In my first year of college, there was a low-level but lengthy “discussion” between two of the teachers involving the letter haitch.
Which is the correcter title for a scholarly paper?
“An Historic Account of This Event”
or
“A History of This Event”
me
I tend to pronounce “historic” more like “istoric” but “history” with a hard aitch.
chigau @65, I disputed the semantic content.
Consider:
(1) “But innocent people getting shot in the face bugs me much, much more.”
vs
(2) “But people getting shot bugs me much, much more.”
Neither semantically nor linguistically equivalent.
Worse than that, those qualifiers mark an exception, implying the unqualified form becomes the operative rule.
yes John
I got that
ps
the subtitle thingy didn’t work
I can see the title of the link but it doesn’t link.
[personal]
chigau, two times:
(1) you did the croc dundee thingy to the buffalo me; and
(2) the other one where you… well, we both know.
You get I cannot even allude to that about which I may not speak.
Honour thingy. But you saw my post in TIT. Not as elliptical.
Anyway.
I honestly do wait to see what happens re this murder.
It will be indicative.
(Best wishes, USA. And USA-adjacent countries)
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To try to be on-topic.
Lessee… Legislative, executive, judicial branches.
Each a check on the others.
Supposedly.
We all can see what threshold this case crosses, if ICE personnel get, ahem, full immunity instead of the mere cops’ partial type.
What I personally perceive from far away, but connected to the infosphere:
right now, unless one carries ID at all times (sometimes even if) one may be abducted or shot.
This is not hyperbole, this is fact.
Used to call that sort of thing a police state, where one needs internal passports or else.
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PS that’s an abbreviation tag. Hovertext only.
Been sprinkling those easter eggs around for a while.
Just start typing it in and you’ll see it, browser or wikipedia itself.
@Tethys, Rob, et al.
I have not found a way to silence the Time Vampire completely yet, but generally, if you don’t engage, but just go with a ‘Get fucked’, you will almost certainly get one or maybe two replies to you with no effect on replies to anyone else. In my experience. Imperfect, certainly but better than 8 (and no doubt I’ll merit one, hopefully only one, too, so 9) and counting as displayed above because ‘Waahh I MUST respond to everything addressed to me even when it isn’t, I can’t help it!’. Engaging in good faith OTOH, and I tried for a very very long time, is a waste. Good luck!
indianajones gets the vibe. Wrong one, but still.
You do like to kick against the prick!
“I have not found a way to silence the Time Vampire completely yet, but generally, if you don’t engage, but just go with a ‘Get fucked’, you will almost certainly get one or maybe two replies to you with no effect on replies to anyone else.”
You most certainly have found a way for me to respond to your sniping.
I do appreciate your effort at a disparaging appellation, yet it does amuse you do not apply it reflexively.
(Beware: cognitive filters do their job, of course, but one day the clag up unless cleaned)
It is remarkable how blind people can be to their own behaviour.
I as well, of course. Luckily, I have multitudes to tell me about me.
I get plenty of input!
Mate: you came in at comment #70 purely to try to performatively snipe at me based on your perception that maybe a touch of dogpiling would unnerve me.
We’re beyond policing the thread, and into true and pathetic territory.
You can’t know, but I was not always this gentle and indirect person you now see.
I had proper dogpilings back then, how do you imagine I honed my style?
Seriously. Look at what you have written there.
Reflect. Or not.
+2.
I just got killfile for a share of annoying people. My experience here has been much more manageable.
Killfiles are for feebloids, Recursive Rabbit.
Like, you know, blinders for draft horses.
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Apparently, topical derail snipes are fine if they are pointed at me.
I did advise letting go @58. You don’t get to complain about the results of your own actions John.
“I did advise letting go @58. You don’t get to complain about the results of your own actions John.”
To what alleged complaint do you refer, O aspie-wrangler?
“An Ice thug shot a Mom in the face in your city, and Tethys’ tome cop routine is beyond annoying.”
Seems to me you are complaining about me. Are you not?
(Still not very self-aware? Cognitive blinders for your own behaviour?)
@John
I’m so glad you’re not being obsessive or fixating on petty trivialities. You don’t get to complain about topical derails since you wrote most of it.
[meta]
“I’m so glad you’re not being obsessive or fixating on petty trivialities.”
Every accusation is a confession.
So, I quote you again:
You really don’t see what you are doing, do ya?
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You most evidently don’t see how ableist that is.
You imagine “people who are on the Aspie side of things” are “bewildered by people having emotional reactions to their oh so logical behavior”.
You perceive me as being “bewildered by people having emotional reactions to their oh so logical behavior”, hence (first logical error) you imagine I am perforce an aspie.
(What, no caps? O the disdain! Aspie side of things, not a mere aspie, right?)
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How’s your wrangling going?
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“You don’t get to complain about topical derails since you wrote most of it.”
You are really doltish.
To what alleged complaints do you attempt to refer?
I made wry and sardonic observations, you imagined they were complaints?
Heh. Wrangle me some more.
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Also, my retorts are 1:1. You write, I retort, etc.
Look for yourself. There it is!
The ratio of obsession being 1:1 entails you accuse yourself every bit as much as you do me.
(And, of course, your cop routine would have been hammered by the you that was, back at the start.
Now it’s personal for you, I get it. Not being an Aspie-type, of the sort you wrangle)
(sigh)
In Oz news:
No new news re the murderer’s fate.
There isn’t any news on the ongoing jurisdiction battle, but the law favors states rights to prosecute crimes that occur within their borders.
There were several other extrajudicial murders by cop in the Twin Cities before the murder of George Floyd. The police claimed they were immune from prosecution, yet the murderous police were in fact charged, tried, and convicted of murder.
Additionally, the other officers who prevented bystanders from rendering aid or medical care were charged, tried, and convicted of federal civil rights offenses.
https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/three-former-minneapolis-police-officers-convicted-federal-civil-rights-violations-death
The wheels of justice grind slowly, but the precedent favors prosecution for murderers with badges.
#27: Question at hand is: will there be consequences.
(Not just to the murderer who pulled the trigger, but to the ones who set it up)
Maybe ask AI how many people in the first iteration of orange’s administration, or the Nixon administration have served or are currently serving their sentences.
Shooting unarmed women in the face is not the kind of Epstein distraction the puppy killer wanted, so they are claiming all manner of bullshit. All those press conferences are admissible in a court of law.
The videos and eyewitnesses are highly compelling evidence of a cold-blooded murder. His own body cam footage is especially damning.
Why should I ask that of an AI? I already know all that.
I refer to the topic at hand.
Whether or not others historically got away with it is not relevant to whether it merits prosecution.
I additionally see my emphasis did not register.
(Not just to the murderer who pulled the trigger, but to the ones who set it up)
Specifically, those who created the conditions that let armed thugs act with impunity; the chain of command that enabled it. As well as, not instead of, of course.
I dunno who offhand; field supervisors, regional directors, the senior DHS/ICE command structure above them, with Prez at the top. Want me to ask an AI? Then I could tell you for sure.
For you, a historical example of that to which I refer, slightly different instantiation, a tad elliptical:
https://www.encyclopedia.com/law/law-magazines/charles-lucky-luciano-trial-1936
Que te den por culo, Cabrón.
Teths: కార్చిచ్చుకు గాడ్పు తోడైనట్లు