A single shot was fired at Kirk during one of his rants at Utah Valley University, striking him in the neck.
Apparently, he’s still alive.
No automatic or semi-automatic fire? No bump stock? No large magazine? Violent liberals really need to learn more about the gear the Right embraces so readily.
Thoughts and prayers! Nothing more!
You guys didn’t pray hard enough. He’s dead.
This is bad news. Not only does no one deserve to be murdered, but this is going to be used to blame everyone the Right hates.
Remember what he believed.
Dammit! I thought this was going to be a “good news” story.
Oh, dear. A fascist, Christian nationalist is shot. Perhaps it’s time for Trump to send his national police force to Utah. It’s past time to clean up that Mormon hellhole.
As much as I want to, I can’t avoid the “thoughts”, but…I don’t have any prayers for any one and even less for a shithole like Kirk.
I’m not in favor of violence or political assassinations.
I wish he hadn’t been shot.
Then again, I’m trying hard to care about this guy getting shot and it isn’t working.
Thoughts and prayers.
If you die, say hello to the demons in hell.
My thoughts exactly. The biggest problem of our time is that the left can’t shot.
This isn’t a good day for a lot of people and it is only 1:00 PDT.
School shooting in Colorado.
More from Bluesky FWIW.
Reports are that it was a serious wound to the neck and he is in critical condition.
He isn’t going anywhere for a while.
I’ve seen the clip of Kirk getting shot and it is quite hard to imagine surviving that wound. He was hit right in a major neck blood vessel, instantly began gushing blood, and seemingly lost consciousness within 2-3 seconds. If he survives, it would be nothing short of astounding.
If he survives, he’ll become the ultimate Xtian martyr. It will be a testament to their “god’s power to heal”. He and others will believe he has a divine purpose and will probably end up elected president. Although I seriously doubt there will ever be another free and fair election in the U.S..
I watched the video. Kind of wish I hadn’t. If he was shot through the neck, which it certainly looks like he was, he’s 100% going to die.
I don’t wish that kind of death on anyone. Then again, he’s the one who said that occasional gun murders are a worthwhile price to pay for the Second Amendment. This is the world he wanted to live in.
So, it looks like Charlie Kirk has entered the 2028 presidential race…
That was my first thought when reading the headline.
apparently kirk has died. just read on CNN
He died.
As Clarence Darrow said: I have never killed anyone, but I have read many obituaries with pleasure.
Ironically, he was apparently giving a speech where he was trying to downplay mass shootings, on a campus that just voted to allow firearms last year.
Personally, my money is on the shooter being a Qanon conspiracy nut who’s mad at the Trump Administration over their continued refusal to release the Epstein Files.
2028 presidential frontrunner withdraws from race…
CNN: live news
I don’t trust anything Trump says without confirmation but considering the wound it would be amazing if Kirk survived.
Kyle Kulinski is often over the top or sometimes hard to take IMO. Not now. This kinda has him perturbed:
I’m with raven@4 and Adam Lee @10 on this. I despise the guy, but him getting shot solves nothing. I hope he survives. No tots or pears though.
Ughh! Raven @6 adds another item even more concerning.
He is dead according to several sources.
” A suspect remains at large.”
I stand corrected.
He’s confirmed dead.
Raw Story reports Charlie Kirk is now officially dead.
Dead as per ABC News.
Cheetolini is apparently all broken up about it. Or as upset as he ever gets about harm to someone who isn’t him.
Also, the person initially taken into custody is apparently no longer considered the suspect.
https://abc7ny.com
I had the same thought (and prayer). I’m probably going to regret speculating on this but, well… Certainly there’s already been something like a civil war brewing on that side, and while they don’t have a full-on monopoly on crazy over there, I feel like they’re pretty close to cornering the market. And if there’s anything more dangerous than a gun-toting conspiracy-addled cult member, it’s a gun-toting conspiracy-addled cult member who believes they’ve been betrayed by their own leadership. Really only a matter of time til MAGA civil war becomes an actual shooting war one way or another.
Wow. I just saw the uncensored video. As a nurse I have a morbid curiosity. Had I seen it before I first commented, I’d definitely say there’s no way he’d survive that, so I’m not surprised he succumbed. That was a single shot that clearly severed his left carotid artery. Even if he’d been administered immediate aid, a person just bleeds out too quickly. And even if the blood loss were stopped quickly, the brain would already have been deprived of oxygen for too long and there would’ve been severe, irreversible brain damage. Whoever did this seemed to know exactly how to get the job done and had the skill to carry it out. Scary! Then, again, you won’t see any sorrow or tears from me.
Scratch one more Nazi. I will lose no sleep.
I concur with PZ’s take:
This might just be your Reichstag fire.
Way too early to know much of anything on this. Given The Serfs providing responses from Musk and Loomer here:
https://bsky.app/profile/theserfstv.bsky.social/post/3lyj4c3zcrk2g
…I wonder what sorts of fascist repercussions this event might foment. It could serve the Trump administration if it winds up as cooptable somehow. It might result in street level responses from upset MAGAts. The political climate is volatile. No telling who targeted Kirk though. @27 hints at surgical precision.
Hosea 8:7
He was a fascist, white supremacist, Christian nationalist scum bag. He was part of the reason we are currently living in the Trumpist hell that this nation has become.
You won’t see me shedding any tears over that shitstain.
I’ll add a little context to this since I’ve actually been to and through Orem, Utah a few times.
If you aren’t a Mormon, it is sort of a spooky place. You are an outsider, not part of their society, and you know it and they know it.
.1. Orem is around 97% Mormon.
This is about as close to a monoculture as it is possible to get.
.2. Utah Valley University is public but around 80% Mormon.
.3. Utah’s gun laws are all but nonexistent.
It is legal to carry concealed weapons without any sort of permit.
A lot of strange things happen in Utah.
John Krakauer wrote a book about it once.
All that Kirk’s death will do is let some other right winger rise up the food chain. Maybe Nick Fuentes will see his audience go up.
https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/09/10/charlie-kirk-shooting-death/
Charlie Kirk is dead after shooting at Utah college event. The conservative activist died at 31 years old.
Megan Loe Published Sept. 10, 2025
On Sept. 10, 2025, reports surfaced claiming conservative activist Charlie Kirk died at 31 after being shot at a Utah Valley University event. The claim was true. https://apnews.com/live/utah-valley-university-charlie-kirk-shooting-updates
Here is charlie kirk rejoicing at the gun deaths. Now we understand. We feel no sorrow.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/charlie-kirk-gun-deaths-quote/?cb_rec=djRfMQ
Turning Point USA CEO and co-founder Charlie Kirk said of gun deaths on April 5, 2023, “I think it’s worth it. I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights.”
Ultimate culprits evidently jezebel.com and the witches they hired via etsy to curse him.
https://www.jezebel.com/we-paid-some-etsy-witches-to-curse-charlie-kirk
Even seems to match the time frame for results they were promised. My skepticism is wavering …
Lauren Walker @ #9 wrote: “If he survives, he’ll become the ultimate Xtian martyr.” I’m willing to bet that Taco will make it all about himself.
Good fucking riddance. They created this monster, they fanned the flames, they pushed for violence and it is poetic justice when they succumb to it.
I’m not happy about the violent death of anyone. I don’t wish death on anyone except for those that are suffering and have no other reprieve, and I wish I knew that our justice system worked because I do believe that permanently removing murderers and rapists from society is just (determining guilt is less so, so I have mixed feeling about the death penalty)
with all that being said, I have a hard time expending extra sympathy towards this individual and his loved ones. There are mass shootings almost every day. Innocent victims in Gaza and Ukraine and likely on a speedboat fleeing Venezuela, (not the coyotes, the refugees) not to mention the countless other families fleeing violence that are now being hunted by trump’s gestapo. So I’ll have little patience for the memorials and ‘thoughts and prayers’ and tributes ad nauseum- as shermanj pointed out @ 35 kirk believed that gun violence was the price to be paid for (his) version of the 2nd amendment …we the bill came due. he and his shouldn’t have regrets
I hope the assassin is quickly found and charged, given a fair trial and if proven guilty kept away from society so he or she can do no further harm. I oppose any form of violence, let alone cold blooded murder.
That said, hate begets hate. His murder was an outrage because it was meaningless and futile and does no conceivable good.
I will not mourn Kirk’s passing and if ever given the opportunity (which will never happen) I would happily piss on his grave, which would certainly do as much or more good than all the thoughts and prayers in the world ever would.
Obviously nobody should get shot at their neck and die when just being in public. But Kirk wanted to live in that kind of world. It’s hard to be sympathetic when Kirk himself would approve of this as nothing more than a small price to pay. It’s useless being sad for him as well when he has helped foster this type of extremism and hatred. And all it requires is one loon to take it further. Kirk partially died on his own sword and I think he wouldn’t even be that upset about it.
Obligatory update from Kyle Kulinski:
He touches on the witches (@36), the right winger premature knee jerking that worries me, the irony of the gun related discussion at the time of the event and more.
This might just be your Reichstag fire. or the night of the long knives?
A man in favour of gun-fondling. I’d call it karma but thats the wrong religion for the gun-nuts who believe god gave them an absolute right to have guns.
@30 Such precision, and apparently from 200 yards away, that my first thought was it must be a skilled hunter or a military veteran marksman. Intetestingly, both of those demographics are more likely to be right wing. Of course it’s all just blind speculation on my part. I actually have few thoughts on the matter until there’s more evidence. But then I imagine that’ll be tricky to decipher since the MAGA government, FBI, and “Justice” Department has the means to manufacture and spin this any way they want. Question is will we ever know the full truth?
Regardless of the consequences in terms of emboldening his fans by becoming a martyr etc, none of which I deny the reality of, this is one person who absolutely deserved to be murdered. There are many deaths and harms that will be prevented by his 1 death
Where are all the Good Guys With Guns who are supposed to prevent this kind of thing? More guns makes us ALL safer, right? Right?
Yahoo, This is your celebration, Yahoo!
Right-wing hate monger shot and killed while literally spouting gang violence lies about mass shootings.
I guess Mormons are a gang now.
Irony?
His last word was…violence.
I’m sure dumpster will immediately send in the National Guard to protect Utah from the gangs of Mormon college students who apparently have excellent marksmanship.
I don’t know what you call this.
Irony?
It is real easy for some people to dismiss gun violence deaths as collateral damage. Until you are one of those collateral deaths.
PZ’s opinion piece: “This is bad news. Not only does no one deserve to be murdered, but this is going to be used to blame everyone the Right hates.”
Provocateur: “Yahoo, This is your celebration, Yahoo!”
Heh.
Supposedly, Kirk was one of those voices who wanted transparency with Epstein. I’m not the conspiracy theorist type, but I gotta wonder here.
Charlie Kirk was pretty cavalier about other people dying to ensure the precious Second Amendment so, to that end, I say to Charlie Kirk, “Thank you for your service.”
For the ‘but no one deserves murder though’ crowd, I have a question. Be trans. Put yourself on the jury of the shooter. Is self defence compelling to you?
BBBBBBUT he was a Christian!
Ladies and Gentlemen, may I present the Trump/Miller/MAGA Reichstag fire. The offal has impacted the cyclonic atmosphere impeller.
“For the ‘but no one deserves murder though’ crowd, I have a question. Be trans. Put yourself on the jury of the shooter. Is self defence compelling to you?”
I’m kinda sorta in that category, depending on definitions.
So, here I am, now I am pretending to be trans. Not sure how that applies to jurisprudence, but sure.
‘Put yourself on the jury of the shooter’.
The jury is of the court, not of the shooter.
But sure. Now I am on the jury.
That entails I’ve passed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voir_dire
“Is self defence compelling to you?”
Um. What is the prosecution’s case, what is the evidence, all that stuff kinda matters.
—
I get it. You are telling everyone you cannot possibly judge on the applicable legal criteria, and so if you were on the jury you’d be prejudiced.
But that’s not how I think, and is quite orthogonal to my gender identity or sense of grievance.
Lauren Walker #45
“Such precision”
???
he missed
The trumpsters have already proceeded without a Reichstag fire. They’re already invading cities. They don’t need a pretext. I think (don’t feel happy about it,) that if a few scumbags like Kirk get their tickets punched, many more will be a little more circumspect about ‘spreading hate for fun and profit.’
@ PZ and everyone spreading this poisonous take:
Okay, I’m seeing an awful lot of this shit around the past few hours, and it needs to stop right fucking now. It’s heinous.
Whatever the right does from here on out is what they were always going to do. The man’s life ended right in the middle of him giving a talk in support of exterminating trans people. The right will deny up and down that that’s what his blaming mass gunmurder events on the existence of trans people was about, but I’m not interested in their hollow denials. The lie serves no other purpose.
A current goal to the right is to murder every trans, non-binary, and gender-nonconforming person in the US. The world, if they can swing it. When they deny it, they lie. When they claim that they have to do it because we’re just too violent and dangerous, they lie. When they claim that they never intended violence until this, that, and the other forced their hands, they lie.
The right will always don the mantle of victimhood, even as they’re up their armpits in the blood of innocents. Refuse that framing- it’s victim-blaming garbage. They aren’t coming to murder us because a tiny fraction of a percentage of mass gunmurderers in the US were LGBTQ+ people, and they aren’t going to do it because a Notsee was murdered in the middle of speaking hate. They’re coming for us because they want to murder us, for no reason beyond sheer hatred. Anything else they say is a lie, period.
Don’t do their work for them.
@58 You’re going to have to provide a lot more context than that. Perhaps it’d help if you read the previous comments I was responding to.
Fuck off Morales you are a disgrace to yrself and a stain on this community. I am NEVER addressing you again, don’t bother answering, and stay off my side, it’s embarrassing.
“I am NEVER addressing you again, don’t bother answering, and stay off my side, it’s embarrassing.”
That is incoherent.
Were I on your side, I’d not excite you so very much in such an antagonistic manner.
(This was no bother, so I have complied with your plea)
The right must be positively frothing at the mouth, i.e., champing at the bit, for the chance to wreak havoc. This death probably makes them giddy.
Are you aware you are asserting that the claim that ‘no one deserve to be murdered’ is shit?
That it needs to stop right now?
That it’s ?
I myself concur; noone deserves to be murdered.
Unlike you, I don’t reckon that’s a shit claim, vucodlak.
As much as a MAGAt darling that Charlie Kirk was, I really don’t see Trump ordering any form of military to occupy Utah. IIRC, Utah is a state which pretty much always votes Republican, and they aren’t dissuaded by Trumpism.
I just got home, so haven’t stumbled across any stories identifying the motives of the shooter. My hope is that he’s yet another white Christian Republican, like the majority of these murderous shooters are. There are enough groups being unfairly targeted by Trump, so one less target painted against them would be welcome.
Nothing good will come of this, just more evil. It’s what Charlie would have wanted.
Im not going to lose any sleep over this either. I feel bad for his wife and child, but honestly, its a win for god given rights.
‘Nothing good will come of this, just more evil. It’s what Charlie would have wanted.’
See here I have to say that this is just factually wrong. At one end of the reasonable life expectancy scale, from 31, we have saved 45 or so years of hate speech that simply won;t happen now. At the other end, maybe even 60-70 years of filth. That has to be something good, right?
Oh, and I don’t feel at all sorry for his wife, or any other adult relative (I make exception for children). Any adult that hasn’t disowned him by now is a pretty awful person too.
Hey folk also don’t forget the number one rule of convervatives: it’s not a problem if it’s not impacting me. And so far the gun violence has been a problem that has not been impacting the Republican elites. I do not mind if it changes.
I hope that this event will lead to the bumbling fool who has been put in charge of the FBI becoming a national embarrassment to his idol.
I am imagining the profilers are going to have a hard time narrowing down the potential suspects.
Probably white, probably male. Experienced at hunting with a rifle and scope. Possibly military. Beyond that, the list of people who really hate right-wing douchebros includes everyone but right-wing douchebros.
I haven’t bothered to look too much into this, but so far I’ve seen a couple mentions of about ~200 yd distance. haven’t heard yet if the shooter was apprehended, what weapon they were using, etc.
Some while back, I enlisted in USMC, and if I remember correctly, the range qualifications had us firing at 200, 300, and 500 yd marks – 200/300 at a maybe ~12″ circle (approximately head sized), and 500 at a torso silhouette. I believe we could only fire from the prone (most stable/accurate) at the 500yd mark, 200 I believe was standing/kneeling(maybe sitting?)
Using a rifle, with a couple weeks practice/training, it’s completely doable for the average person to make a head shot at ~200yds.
If I understand Chigau correctly, I also believe the shooter missed, as they were most likely aiming for center mass of the torso, and missed (but managed a killshot out of luck), or aiming for a headshot, and missed (again, got lucky)
it’s just sorta weird, how these people who love guns and know oh so much about them, seem to know so little about marksmanship, and seem to think that anybody that can hit a target smaller than a barn outside of 50 yds must be some sort of highly trained expert…
FWIW. via Aussie ABC here as of 3.15 pm South Aussie time :
:
Source : https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-11/charlie-kirk-shot-utah-university-event/105418226
Charlie Kirk’s death seems apt.
The only sad thing is he won’t face justice for all he did and how much worse it has made our world.
Okay, almost the only thing, he also won’t geta chance to rethink his life and tryand make amends for the evilthingshe’s said and done.
At least we’re spared seeing Trump appoint him to some position of high power over others.
PS . I really hope it was a disgruntled MAGAt and reichwinger or reichwinder adjacent “Lone wolf” who is responsible here. The reichwing willbe out for blod and vengeance even more than usual which is saying something. Especially if the shooter is trans or atheist or progressive or can be be seen as such. They’ll make up Conspiracist bullshit in any case but still.
As fro the reichstag fire we are long, long past that stage now. Trump’s attempted assassination might;’ve counted, thsi one, really no point at thsi stage.
These new Amercian Nazis here already have all the power and far far more than they need to do as they please as they keep proving every fucking day. Thanks again Thrid Party Spoiler Trolls and Bothsiderist dropkicks..You blew it for everyone on this pale blue dot.
May his headstone get a suitably sized typeface.
The shooter obviously did not miss. Kirk just happened to turn his body to the left as the shot was fired so was hit in the side of the neck instead of the face or chest.
He may have been a monster, but no need for zombie killing tactics.
@ John Morales, #55
Yeah, you know, you might be able to truthfully make that claim if the sentence I quoted had simply said “No one deserves to be murdered” and stopped there, but there’s the whole bit after the “but” that changes the statement from that simple declaration to victim-blaming garbage. Oh no, now all us gender nonconformists deserve to be wiped off the face of the Earth because someone somewhere shot a Nazi!
The only way your take on my comment is defensible is if you ignore the second half of that second quoted sentence, and everything I said after my first paragraph. That’s weak, bad-faith bullshit John Morales, and you know it.
You’re actually almost right about one thing, though, in that I believe any and all statements about what anyone “deserves” are inherently nonsense, because the whole concept of “deserving” is nonsense. “Earning” and “deserving” are empty vessels that we each fill up according to our own prejudices. Show 10 people a photo of some random stranger, ask them what that stranger deserves, and you’ll get 10 different answers. Not one of them will be right or wrong in any objective sense, because the concept is meaningless.
Men like Charlie Kirk firmly believe I deserve to be brutally murdered for being non-binary and pansexual. I disagree. Who is right? Who is wrong? What do the holy scriptures say? What would Azathoth think? How many angels can dance on the head of pin? I consider all those questions equally important.
Does it make me happy that someone was murdered, even someone I personally find as detestable as Charlie Kirk? No, not really. Does it make me sad? Yeah, I’m honestly a little surprised to say that it kinda does. Don’t get me wrong, I hated the fucker, but… that kind of makes me sad, too. I don’t like this. I don’t like this hate, I don’t like this world, I don’t like what we humans are doing in and to this world, and I don’t really understand any of this. Why the fuck do we have to be so cruel?
There’s a part of me that’s all bloodlust and eager thirst for savage violence. I hate it and it scares me, but it also feels somehow dear to me. There’s a part of me that just wants to tear people apart until they’re kind, and that doesn’t make a godsdamned lick of sense.
I hate that is happened. I believe that Charlie Kirk chose to make the world a much worse place while he was in it, and I can’t really find it in myself to feel sad that he’s not around to do that anymore, but I don’t celebrate his murder either. In coldly practical terms, I don’t think his murder serves a purpose. Maybe ten years ago it would have made a meaningful difference in stopping the horror that I believe is coming, but I think war is inevitable now. Would it have been right to do it then? To end someone’s like because it might save others? I don’t know. I can’t make those kinds of decisions. I don’t even want to think about it. I don’t like hurting people, I don’t like killing, even if a part of me seems to crave bloodshed.
A man was murdered. I would say he was bad, for he caused great harm, but does that justify his murder? I don’t believe in punishment any more than I believe in the concept of deserving, but I do believe in harm reduction. And yet, I can’t make myself believe that this was right. I don’t think any of this is right. It just makes me tired.
You want to find things to pick apart in that mess, be my guest. I’m going to lay down, and pray the nightmares won’t be too bad tonight, for all the good it’ll do me.
Kash Patel’s FBI has been fucking up royally. He may relieved of duty in a few days if this keeps up.
“The only way your take on my comment is defensible is if you ignore the second half of that second quoted sentence”.
Two clauses, one contention. A conjuction, the conjuct is true iff only both conjuncts are true.
That is my objection, vucodlak.
(In logic, ‘but’ is same as ‘and’ — a conjunction)
“A man was murdered. I would say he was bad, for he caused great harm, but does that justify his murder?”
No. It is not an open question.
To be topical, this was the intro to Colbert’s show tonight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX2Ee0ZKros
Some things I consider of note:
The administration is stripping away the rules of law. Fighting back has involved a great many court cases, however all I know of have been delayed, or failed to bear fruit due to corrupt rulings. Trump should not have been legally electable, yet there he is.
Sending in ICE is political violence. Sending the military is a threat of political violence.
Police should be arresting ICE agents that have no warrant, and provide no identity, while kidnapping people. They don’t. Citizens are putting their bodies on the line to stand in front of IDE raids and push them away.
Democrat leaders have recently been murdered or threatened with jail for doing their jobs. Now a right wing personality has been murdered.
As the government pushes to force an end to democracy and law, violence may become a desperate recourse.
Alternatives?
One I can think of is appeal to police departments to arrest ICE agents behaving unlawfully.
Another, admonish the military troops to refuse illegal/immoral orders.
Any other ideas?
IDE = ICE sorry
So a cousin posted an angry rant about Charlie Kirk’s death. This is my response. I feel I have to get this off my chest. Sorry.
But he died doing what he loved, defending the second amendment.
Also, I don’t care. I don’t care that someone who promoted so much hate was killed. I don’t care because he spent so much time and effort trying to block reasonable measures that might (alright certainly) have prevented his death. I don’t care because he, like so many of his wingnut ilk, worked hard to make light of the threats and violence to those they consider beneath them. I don’t care because he was a man that worked so hard to make the lives of the poor, the weak and the divergent as hellish as possible.
I’m not going to give him a second thought, and he never had a prayer. Hopefully one day you’ll realize that these fuckhead want to fuck you over as well.
Meanwhile in Washington, lots of politicians and pundits are red faced with rage over the death of Charlie Kirk. But sad as it is, that is one person. The stupid policies of Roadkill Kennedy Jr. are destroying America’s health system. Which with some bad luck may cause future deaths of thousands, tens of thousands or even more. Perhaps the MAGA politicians might recognize how many of us are angry about this, just as angry or more so than the rage over the death of Kirk.
Not a “Reichstag fire” (you are way past that), but without doubt Kirk will be the Trump Regime’s “Horst Wessel” (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horst_Wessel).
Trump is already blaming the “radical left”. Still to come are the nauseating eulogies, the “Charlie-Kirk-Lied” and inevitable clampdown on “antifa”.
The script would seem to be back on track.
Another quote for the epitaph:
I think I’ll skip watching this one. Spare me the wet, squishy details.
On fb Occupy Democrats and feminist news page s have lots of pwoerful memes that are just the vile bigot’s own evil words.
From ABC news again :
Source : https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-11/verify-what-we-know-about-the-charlie-kirk-assassination/105761534
Sadly the ABC and other media so far seem to be avoiding calling Kirk what he was -a hate preacher and neo-nazi.
Reading Kirk’s wikipage has been informative and what a truly vile disgusting excuse for a human he was.
Eg lowlights
Plus :
Also:
(Of c Kirk NEVER come sacross as angry or bitter ever does he?!)
In addition to :
Source : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Kirk
So much more there as well. Ye non-existent gawds!! What a peice of nazi shit. Thinking of which, yeah he promoetd the literal nazis Great Replacement Bullshit too.
In vastly overshowed news three children are dead in a Colorado school shooting :
Source : https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/three-people-critically-wounded-in-suburban-denver-high-school-shooting-authorities-say
@87. Trump enabling disingenuous Unicorn-demanding tanty troll :
Yet you were on Kirk’s side, you were one of his. politcial allies in effect and reality. Despite your bullshit pretence of giving an actual shit about Gaza* which you clearly never did – YOU, beholder, helped the man Kirk** wanted to become POTUS become POTUS instead of her..
Go figue huh.
Go take a real long time about it.
.* Not mentioning that and Far Worse Genocide Don much now are ya? Yeah, people notice.
.** Plus Netanyahu, Ben Gvir, the actual nazis, etc..
Uh-huh, and is this shooting the fault of people who voted Nader in 2000?
Go home, StevoR, you’re drunk.
The neck wound was not survivable, I only had it described to me and it was clear he would die there and then.
Shot from 200m away and with a height difference, that was no amateur.
One wonders who benefits from this murder, doesn’t seem to me to be anyone on the left. Seems to be Trump, Patel and the violence-ready Nazi citizen army at their disposal. Just read on Bluesky that the chief FBI agent for Utah was fired just last month for political reasons.
Also read that Barack Obama sent thoughts and prayers to Kirk’s family. He did not send any when the 2 Democrats were killed a few weeks ago.
@73 I assume you’re addressing my comment? I’m no gun nut. I don’t know jack about marksmanship or how to target someone for murder. I don’t own a gun and never have. I hardly know anything about them other than what they do to the human body since it’s my job to clean up and repair the damage. Sadly, a lot of times it’s a futile endeavour.
That being said, I’m obviously looking at this from that perspective. Shooting someone in the neck, there’s a high probability you’ll kill them from an anatomical standpoint. I’ve seen it enough times up close and personal. Another person happened to remark that it seemed surgical in its precision. I agreed. So what? What does it matter if I’m wrong? I’m not commenting as some kind of ultimate authority on anything. I’m speculating the same as everyone else here. I even said before that it’s blind speculation on my part and that I’ve hardly given this much thought. And does it really even matter where the shooter was aiming? It’s a moot point. The guy is dead. I think it’s fairly reasonable to assume he intended that much.
rorschach@91,
I think someone already noted that Kirk was one of those on the right calling for the release of the Epstein files. I don’t know if he’s continued to speak up about it since that mid-July piece was published. But it comes at a time when Trump desperately needed a distraction of just this kind; whether the Reichstag fire was or was not instigated by the Nazis, they made full use of it.
@90. Trump-enabling disingenuous troll : beholder : Go home, StevoR, you’re drunk.
False as usual. FWIW, I haven’t actually had a drink for quite a few days. But even if I had; I could always sober up and you haven’t addressed any of the valid points I’ve made as is typical of you.
Nor beholder, you Trump enabling bad faith piece of toxic waste troll, have you acknowledged and faced the blood that is on your hands or admitted and apologised about how horrendously badly wrong you were to argue exclusively against Kamala Harris and the Democratic party thereby de facto enabling and helping Trump to become POTUS.
KG @93,
completely agree.
@KG : Kirk’s assassination sure has been a massive distraction fromthsoe Epstein file shuh?
Plus the escalating and worsening wars in South-West Asia and eastern Europe too.
Handy for them to demonise any apt criticisms including anzi comparisons from the left as violent rhetoric too when the reichwings own including from Kirk has incited so much violence for so long.
PS. Someone on fb has just shared a photo of the late nazi scum Kirk posing happily with Kyle Rittenhouse. Yet another reminder of their blatant hypocrisy.
@88 StevoR
Regarding the shooting in Evergreen, CO, apparently, the shooter is dead after shooting themselves. One victim remains in critical condition in the hospital and the other had non-life-threatening injuries. This is according to Colorado Public Radio.
Amidst the speculation about Kirk’s shooting, one issue stuck out for me: conservatives were howling a couple of days ago about an instructor at Texas A&M who they accused of “indoctrinating” students about “gender ideology.” She was fired. Yet they celebrate Kirk, who was indoctrinating students at numerous campuses for years, but on radical right wing-nut ideas.
It’s kind of difficult not to take personally the fact that Charlie Kirk was a vicious bastard who actively wished for people like me to be dead, and worked with organisations trying to bring this about.
He believed the right of insecure men to carry weapons designed for no other purpose than to turn living, breathing humans into piles of minced meat and splintered bone very quickly, outweighed the right of those aforementioned humans to go about their business without being shot.
He also believed that when he died, he would be taken to Alton Towers for Dead People, with a good vantage point from which to watch all the people he did not like suffering. So, as far as Kirk himself is concerned, the shooter has done him a favour.
So excuse me if I am having trouble mustering up any sympathy for him. The world is a tiny bit less terrible for me today and I am taking that as a victory. Obviously I would have been preferred if he had simply changed his mind as opposed to being shot dead; but sometimes you have to take what you can get.
Good riddance to bad rubbish.
@ ^bluerizlagirl .: Exactly albiet calling him merely a vicious bastard is a mssive understatement and leaves out that he was, in essence, a nazi.
@98. davetaylor : the old core hypocrisy of IOKIYAR.. rising again like an unflushable turd.
@97. jimf : Ah. Okay thanks for that info. Good news. Well, less bad news anyhow.
@36, Scott Simmons
Magical thinking is scary stuff.
A few weeks ago, on the night of the full Moon, I painted a local politician’s hands on a poster with red marker. Two days later, he cut himself on the exact place where the marker touched his image.
In front of cameras.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bc8P4P1PiBg&pp=ygUWVnXEjWnEhyBwb3Nla2FvIHN0YWtsbw%3D%3D
He is known for his fascist leanings (infamous for threatening “100 dead muslims for 1 dead Serb” during the 90s).
So two days ago, during lunar eclipse, I put one dot on the same poster’s throat with the same marker and whispered “Death to all fascists”. I was angry, because he broke constitution and sent police on faculty of philosophy and violently occupied rectorship.
Then I scrawled some more red on his image’s hands. Two days later, on the other side of the world, another fascist named Charlie Kirk gets killed. Shot in the throat.
Its a coincidence but magical thinking is painin the butt.
Confirmed :
Source : https://www.cpr.org/2025/09/10/evergreen-high-school-shooting/
A 16 year old teenage boy armed with a deadly weapon. Geez I’d like to point that out to Charlie Kirk and use that in a debate with him but I gather he’s now unavailable and gone very quiet and cold on that issue.
Well, OK.
I have empathy but I won’t waste any on Charlie Kirk.
He is dead. Good.
He was just another Alex Jones.
Spreading hate, violence, and lies for money.
He never had an original or worthwhile thought in his life.
Lauren Walker@92
I appreciated the info and viewpoint from your post, and I didn’t intend anything in mine to be in criticism of what you posted. Apologies if it came across otherwise.
Mostly, I just feel it’s probably unlikely the shooter specifically targeted the neck, and merely got lucky on a near-miss.
The last paragraph in my comment wasn’t at all directed at you, and more in general that I keep hearing people say/comment how difficult a particular shot is (orange asshole’s ear, JFK, etc.), when it’s not at all difficult for someone with a bare minimum of training.
In basic training, I achieved sharpshooter status. I was able to routinely hit human silhouettes at 300 yards. I was not exceptional; I wasn’t the only one. There are tens of thousands of guys out there with this ability. It never helped me a bit in civilian life.
Here is a very good article on how charlie kirk was an evil ahole:
https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/charlie-kirk-legacy
and a good discussion:
https://www.emptywheel.net/2025/09/11/guns-save-lives-he-wrote/
Some rando:
Wow this comment thread is long.
#59 mikey and #82 Dan Dare: QFT
Kulinsky is deluded. This is NOT first shots fired. Not by a long chalk. Those talking about Reichstag Fire? Trump admin: we’ll set all the fires we like!
I don’t know who Matt Forney is, I can’t keep track of all your right-wing nuts, just like I’m sure you can’t keep track of ours. But he posted the worst possible take so far.
He unapologetically puts himself and the right in the boots of the Nazis. I can’t even begin to comprehend what weird mishmash of historical facts and quasi-historical quasi-facts live in that man’s brainpan.
Also — though far less important — apparently now is the time to acknowledge the existence of stochastic terrorism, except this ain’t it, unless the countless left-wing pundits, influencers, and commentators calling for the death of Kirk never made it across the Atlantic.
The mere fact that someone deserves to die does not give anyone else the right to kill them. The only excuses I recognize for killing anyone is self defense, or the defense of other innocents, and it better be entirely clear cut.