They’re coming to take away the guns!
“In the wake of the Minneapolis Catholic church shooting, senior Justice Department officials are weighing proposals to limit transgender people’s right to possess firearms,” CNN reports.
“Such a move would represent a dramatic escalation of the Trump administration’s fight against the rights of transgender Americans.”
Interesting. The majority of trans people are not mass murderers, so this is a plan to punish the innocent for one person’s actions. As long as we’re going down this road, I must point out that 98% of the perpetrators of these shootings are men, and further, that the majority are white men.
Obviously, the most effective approach would to limit white men’s right to possess firearms. It’s the only statistically sensible plan.
I want to repeat my call for DRONE STRIKES on
gun showsTERRORIST ARMS DEPOTS.…especially in the ungovernable tribal region of
TexasOuter Dumbfuckistan.This is one instance where, in regard to the (in)justice department, I wish they were just ‘shooting their mouths off’.
Waitaminit – only 155 mass shootings in 43 years in the mass shooting capital of the world??!?
Statista (the 2nd link above) lists 165 for the same time period. Still seems low (3 years with zero mass shootings, 13 with only one)…
I seem to recall the NRA and other gun nuts didn’t mind gun control back when the Black Panthers were arming themselves.
All my life, the excuse I’ve most commonly heard–and agreed with myself during my dumber, more conservative days–to defend gun ownership and the second amendment, as well as oppose gun control, was that the people need access to weapons as a bulwark against “tyranny.”
So, when he have a president who is defying the constitution, arresting immigrants and political opponents, threatening protestors with military reprisal, and openly using the office to enrich himself, where are the NRA-types who scream that they need their AR-15s to fight tyranny? Where are they when he threatens the press or when ICE drags someone off to be be flown to an El Salvadoran gulag? Where are these “patriots” who want to water the tree of liberty with the blood of “tyrants” and their own?
They’re loudly and enthusiastically supporting Donald Trump and the actions he is taking.
This was NEVER about the ability of the people to rise up against dictators or oppression. Gun ownership wasn’t meant for the likes of Jon Brown, or the miners at Ludlow, or the Black Panthers, or Antifa, or anytime the “left” takes up arms. It was meant for the Klan, the Oath Keepers, Timothy McVeigh, and Kyle Rittenhouse. It was meant for white Christians to form lynch mobs to enact violence against whoever steps out of line or when THEY are aggrieved; the best example being January 6. Civilian gun ownership was meant to “defend” THEIR idea of what freedom is which is the white Christian capitalist status quo, not anyone else’s. It was to oppose the “tyranny” of social and economic progress and the inclusion of anyone who is not them.
We need to start being honest with ourselves. Words like “freedom,” “liberty,” “individualism,” etc. are empty terms. In America, you are only truly free if you have the right skin color, the right genitals, the right superstitions, and the right economic ideology. Anyone else, will never belong. Anyone else should expect violence from the police, the military, or the well-armed hick who’s “proud to be an American.”
‘2nd amendment-worshipping gun fondlers’ is more descriptive, but I believe they prefer to be called ‘ammosexuals’.
I consider myself something of a 2A moderate. I see a point in people, if they wish, to own a handgun for self-defense or shotgun or two for hunting. Ammo should be limited.
I’m thinking it might be a good idea at this point for trans people to arm themselves for personal protection. Just no ARs, HKs or AKs ok?
@6 Hemidactylus – I’m thinking it might be a good idea at this point for trans people to arm themselves for personal protection
I agree plus, I was thinking, if they keep isolating the Trans people from the normal activities of American society, the number of Trans who shoot people may go up.
Everyone who wants to own a gun under the auspices of the 2nd Amendment should be allowed to purchase a muzzle-loading long rifle.
I’ve read that the requirement to own a gun and participate in the militia was a bit cf a hardship on poor farmers at the time Europeans were pushing westward.
Also, note that it’s been a long time since armed citizens could overthrow the government, as long as the government has control of the military. The military, and that includes urban police, has far more firepower, logistical capability, training, and coordination capabilities than armed citizens even with AKs. The US military could easily crush any armed insurrection if they wanted to. I learned that at college in the late 60s from a Black historian talking about the silliness of an armed Black uprising in America. So, the rationale that the 2nd is for popular uprisings is ridiculous on the face of it.
@Pierce R. Butler
There’s a lot of variation in definitions of “mass shooting”, it’s probably that
robro @ # 8: … the rationale that the 2nd is for popular uprisings is ridiculous on the face of it.
Not to mention the text of the US Constitution, Article 1, Section 8:
— just as you might expect from a document from a Constitutional Convention provoked by Shay’s Rebellion (itself a reaction to taxes three and four times higher than those before the Revolution).
It used to be a right of passage down here in Texas, for young morons to drive to the gay nightclub areas of Houston to “roll queers”. Then Texas made CC laws allowing easier carrying of guns. Gays organized The Pink Pistols to get gays armed and trained at local shoot ranges. The rolling queers activities started to drop off markedly. That made me laugh.
I don’t care about guns. I care about the fact that they want to declare all trans people “mentally deficient” and what else that will enable if it sticks.
Akira @ 4
Yeah, about that…
America (US of), like most nations, have both inalienable and alienable rights.
While the rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are allegedly inalienable in the USA, property rights are not.
You are free to live, free to proclaim your liberty, and free to pursue happiness (which is an oddly subjective right to assert that is best left to another time and place to flesh out), but you have nowhere in which you actually have the right to lay claim to life, liberty or happiness.
Not that America (US of) is alone in having alienable property rights, but weirdly, while you Americans are free to have a gun, you actually have no right to sleep anywhere. How fucked is that?
So yeah, freedom – please refer to the previous occupants for further information.
But it looks like trans people will learn how solidly defendable/ed the bizarre 2nd amendment actually is soon enough.
I propose this mobilization instead:
The body count will be much lower.
This will never pass SCOTUS muster. Even a court as truly awful as the current one won’t add exceptions to the 2nd Amendment. Even if it did, how to enforce such a law? Do local gun shops start examining people’s genitals? “Ah-ha!” says the clerk. “You’re wearing a dress, but you’ve got a cock. No guns for you.”
The Trump Administration is also, as reported by multiple news yesterday, trying to pass legislation to declare all trans people terrorists.
Even if you’re an asshole who doesn’t care about trans rights, they’re not going to stop there and if they get away with it, they’re going to oppress more and more groups until eventually they get to a group you belong to.
“Ah-ha!” says the clerk. “You’re wearing a dress, but you’ve got a cock. No guns for you.”
…and then the Scot split the clerk’s head with a claymore. THE END.
i saw a youtube short where a woman says “maybe if all women started carrying guns, like all of us, all women, started just carrying them openly on our hips, then they would make guns illegal”
I almost never post here…and I’m not now either…I’m struck dumb by dumbness.
i wish matthewfiore would have explained the dumbness
I would explain it but as previously established, I’m unable to post right now. Check back in a little under 4 years.
Meanwhile, according to CNN, the NRA has come out against singling out trans gun owners.
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/05/politics/nra-transgender-gun-control
direlobo, that’s not correct. From the link:
““The NRA supports the Second Amendment rights of all law abiding Americans to purchase, possess and use firearms,” the organization said in a social media post.”NRA does not, and will not, support any policy proposals that implement sweeping gun bans that arbitrarily strip law-abiding citizens of their Second Amendment rights without due process.””
Zero mention of transgender people there.
(Due process? Say it’s not lawful to be trans, therefore they are not law-abiding, and presto! Due process is in place. It’s how it works; what’s lawful and what is not is changeable)
Suggestion for a follow-up study: See how many people asking for trans people to have guns taken away fit in the white male demographic that performs most crimes.
But this is probably all performative anyway. As Deborah Goldsmith mentioned @12 they’re doing far worse to trans people already and if someone actually gets shot over any of it they could use that no matter who was on the wrong end of the barrel.
Trump still visibly struggles with basic addition and subtraction (see his tariff claims). So it doesn’t surprise me he fails to do the math required for an honest risk assessment. Also doubt he could manage an “honest” anything even if you paid him because he’s been on the payroll for years and he’s still too incompetent to pull it off.
Remember, the NRA suddenly became pro-gun control when the Black Panthers were arming themselves.