How many ignorant claims can a creationist pack into a short clip?
If there’s one thing the world uses to steal the hearts and minds of our kids it’s dinosaurs.
One thing? Absurd. We have all of reality to entice kids away from the lies of Answers in Genesis.
“Hey look kids. Look at these fearsome creatures. They’re amazing. They’re fascinating. They died out 65 million years ago. They’re products of evolution. They’re just the results of chemicals bumping together over millions of years.
Come on. If you’re going to convince people that evolution is not true, you should start by accurately describing it. No one claims that dinosaurs arose spontaneously from simple chemical processes.
Just like you, evolution’s true.” They use dinosaurs to convince our kids they’re nothing but rearranged pond scum.
We also don’t claim that.
Stop and think. Why would scientists be arguing that, when it’s not true, and wouldn’t accomplish much of anything? It’s clear that this guy is proselytizing and trying to recruit followers, so if we just assume that scientists have a similar, competing motive (we don’t), how does telling someone they are rearranged pond scum
serve our purpose? Or Satan’s purpose?
We use dinosaurs to call our children back to the authority of the word of God. We call dinosaurs missionary lizards because we want to give children sound biblical scientific answers about these incredible creatures.
I do appreciate that contradictory phrase, biblical scientific answers,
especially given that the Bible says nothing about dinosaurs. But AiG will tell us all about it! The next AiG video linked to by the above short is titled You’ve Been LIED to About How Dinosaurs Looked, which explains how a creationist artist uses the Bible to help him figure out how dinosaurs actually looked.
The unfathomable question is why AiG chose to use this AI-generated image of “dinosaurs” on their video?
Abomination, I say! Who is lying to kids about dinosaurs now?
“Just like you, evolution’s true.” They use dinosaurs to convince our kids they’re nothing but rearranged pond scum.”
We know who the real pond scum is. Besides, when my daughter was a teenager, she called pond scum muffin mix.
“We use dinosaurs to call our children back to the authority of the word of God. We call dinosaurs missionary lizards because we want to give children sound biblical scientific answers about these incredible creatures.”
I say this because the money I earn from bilking you guys and gals is easier then working a real job.
“sound biblical scientific answers”
I googled this and found this, among many other comments. Fun fact: Ken Ham built an ark and was planning on keeping animals in there, but he was told that even domesticated animals would die in those conditions and that’s why they use animatronics!
A minor nit to pick here, I suppose, given the ambient rampant nonsense, but dinosaurs are not lizards. Squamates are lepidosaurs, a sister group to Archosauria.
Hey, that’s wrong. There’s no feathers..
Also just WTF.. Massive Palaeontology fail.
Of course, Science does better than just having “missionary lizards” in that zoologists – Herpetologists specifically – have got the actual Jesus Lizard :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_basilisk
Albeit better known as the Common Basilisk (Basiliscus basiliscus) but still.
A parchment was discovered showing Jesus riding a dinosaur. The truth is incontrovertible. Humans and dinosaurs coexisted. You can forget all that Gospel nonsense about him riding a donkey on his triumphal entry into Jerusalem. Jesus had his very own Donkeysaurus.
https://www.dailysquib.co.uk/world/52761-biblical-experts-reveal-jericho-parchment-of-jesus-riding-a-dinosaur.html
If we evolved from pond scum, why is there still pond scum?
He’s dismissing materialism in general from the Big Bang to the human neuroscience, something his primitive belief system requires to function.
Edit: … from the Big Bang to
thehuman neuroscience…Cry harder, Bible-fucker.
Better “rearranged pond scum” than Christian scum.
They’re bearing false witness again.
Unfortunately idiots like this have a hold on the government agencies that set educational policy. I wouldn’t be surprised that as the Federal government backs out of eduction some states will start mandating teaching “both sides of the evolution question” which means teaching the Bible. We already know that the Trump administration doesn’t know and doesn’t care about the Constitution. The people in the ruling party may know this is bullshit, but they also know that supporting this line of thinking will garner them lots of campaign donations and enough votes to win elections where they can suck even more money out of the public.
I have had run-ins with those ‘xtian missionary lizards’ many times in the past. I wish these jebus zealots would all just wrap themselves in the flag, thump their bible and Crawl Off And Die. It’s sad that there are so many ignorant superstitious people who willingly drink the toxic xtian kool-aid of religion. Look for the orange smoke in the vatican.
Given his feelings about pond scum, I wonder his thoughts about Genesis 3:19 (and also Ecclesiastes 3:20): “for dust you are and to dust you will return”. Is dust better than pond scum?
(The poetic awe that verse is meant to inspire seems similar to me to that one can get from understanding how we are made of atoms and evolved from pond scum. From a poetic point of view, it’s good thing we came from pond scum/dust! The bible authors seem to agree).
@5 Because pond scum is funded by the Heritage Foundation to run for political office.
The thing about pond scum: Humble origins do not invalidate us. These are people who tell themselves that humanity is so intrinsically necessary to existence, the aether spat out a god for the purpose of creating us in this exact modern form.
mathman85 @ 2 got there ahead of me.
BTW we are the descendants of synapsid reptiles, tecnically speaking the finback Dimetrodon reptiles are our uncles and aunts.
@ 14
Ah, but they consider the notion that humans are just another species of animal deeply offensive. To them, animals are wild, filthy, soulless things that human beings have dominion over. No, they were specially and specifically created by the ruler of the universe to fulfill his grand design. We are “better” than animals. The fact that our “corrupt” meat bodies operate on the same biological principles as other life forms is unimportant.
The AI-generated image appears to show large plant-eating dinosaurs with jaws of a T-rex.
Like showing a zebra with the jaws of a lion.
[blockquote]The AI-generated image appears to show large plant-eating dinosaurs with jaws of a T-rex.
Like showing a zebra with the jaws of a lion.[/blockquote]
I thought that was deliberate and intentional. AiG has staked and doubled down that dentition has no predictive value to determining diet and that that the jaws of a lion can just as easily indicate grass eating as meat eating. Of course, this is sort of backwards as we have the teeth of the dinos. But backward denying is not always logical or consistent.
Non-avian dinosaurs are the charismatic megafauna of paleontology. I think they should lord it over the Bible nerds a little more than they do; after all, science discovered non-avian dinosaurs, classified them, and worked out increasingly plausible reconstructions of their appearance and the environment they lived in. The dinosaur-to-science pipeline still works on lots of kids. A con artist like Ken Ham who is trying to peddle a failed and worthless ideology is right to be envious of that.
@flange #17
Before the “Fall” there was no death therefore dinos were vegetarian. Those big teeth were for cracking coconuts and watermelon rinds. I kid you not.
Am i alone in thinking pond scum is cool? There are all sorts of creatures living in there, it’s a whole complex ecosystem. I think this guy should go study some pond scum
I have dealt with all this many times over the years. Even wrote articles debunking all this crap and posted them all over the net. Every book about dinosaurs made by creationists all contain bad to worse, grossly out-dated, incorrect illustrations of dinosaurs that are blatantly all imagined up by creationists who habitually watches too many sci-fi movies and reads too many comic book and pulp fiction novels and probe ancient mythology and folkloric tales to get ideals for their most stupidest fantasies they ever conjure up and parade about as if they’re scientific facts that really isn’t.
The worst way of doing paleontology, indeed!
And now they have AI to help them make it all much easier to rectify all their lies while before that they used image editing programs like Photoshop and Gimp to rectify everything to change all their lies into “Biblical Truth” so falsely called, just like what Winston and the Minitrue have done in George Orwell’s fantastic novel “1984.” That’s no surprise right there.
I knew that I will not be surprised by all this.
Taking images of non-existing, mythical animals that are amalgamated from bits and pieces of extant animals (and humans, too!) and slap the “dinosaur” label on them is NO way to do paleontology and study dinosaurs.
Unfortunately Dumb Idiot Ham is far too stupid and arrogant to know this.
#19.
That’s why Dumb Idiot Ham would, out of sheer jealousy, frequently slander anyone who picks up a true dinosaur book to read, see a dinosaur film, and watch dinosaurs shows on TV and become enthralled by it. Those books along with films like Jurassic Park/World, majestic museum dinosaur displays at the likes of the American Museum of Natural History, and the TV show Walking with Dinosaurs actually paved the way for people, especially kids, to be introduced to these majestic creatures that continuously inspire and enthrall everyone wandering the museum halls and gazing at movie and TV screens showing these awesome animals.
One book by Dumb Idiot Ham depicts two kids embracing themselves in fear at the sight of wrongly built dinosaur skeletal mounts in a museum as if Dumb Idiot Ham wanted people to be fearful and untrustworthy toward them– a huge contrast to real life rightfully depicting people, especially kids, gazing at the displays with awe and wonder.
Religion often has this tendency to kill wonder.
Ken Ham is not dumb, he just doesn’t care about accurate paleontology. He cares about people professing a specific religious ideology and is happy to hurt people in persuit of that. It’s classic authoritarianism: this belief is right (along with the associated power structure), and the key question is if other things reinforce or challenge it
@18 “we have the teeth of the dinos.”
God planted the fossils at the Creation to test our faith. You’ve failed, off to hell with you, in fact we’d like to give you a taste of it before you get there.
@26
He doesn’t, dangerousbeans. He doesn’t. Which is why I regard him as “Dumb Idiot Ham.” He is a dumb Idiot. And you’re right about him exercising authoritarianism where he thinks he’s always right and all others are always wrong. All creationists do this. Not just Ham, you know?