Another school shooting, this time in Madison, Wisconsin, which is getting a little too close to my granddaughter’s school. Although, to be honest, a shooting in Florida is getting too close to her.
Nothing will be done to end this insanity. I know it, you know it.
Oh, no! why didn’t jebus protect them? I wonder, given the ever more violent nature of this failing society, has any one setup the SSOTD.COM (School Shooting Of The Day) website yet.
PZ wrote: Nothing will be done to end this insanity. I know it, you know it.
I reply, based on all available evidence, the insanity is spreading and will continue to do so. Yes, I know I am using the phrase a lot, but it is true: welcome to the New Dark Ages
Well, at least no CEOs were harmed.
As long as the media don’t do their job and go for easy right wing money (cough TYT, WaPo cough), pronouns will always be much more dangerous at schools than bullets.
Most Americans love their guns more than they love their children. Nothing will change until that changes.
The one thing about school shootings at private Christian schools (this isn’t the first) is that at least the morons of the punditry and pulpits can’t blame it on their usual suspects.
It can’t be ‘woke’. It can’t be ‘no prayer in schools’. It can’t be ‘the evils of evolution’.
They’ll never own up to the real cause, of course.
But at least for one brief week we don’t have to see those same boogeymen come up over and over from the far right punditry.
It usually means they’re just strangely quiet…but I’ll take their silence over their lies, any time.
I guess it’s just one of those things where a culture decides that a certain thing is inevitable, no matter how stupidly, obviously hurtful it is.
You know, like the electoral college, or the for-profit health care system, or the existence of the Republican party.
@#2 – nomaduk
Thanks for the giggle. When this CEO killing occurred, my brain twitched thinking society will accept the murdering of children but will not tolerate the murder of a CEO.
After the Sandy Hook shooting, I thought it was finally time, something would be done about guns. Was I ever wrong. All those prayers and thoughts must have adversely affected the psyche of America. I guess the killing of twenty unarmed 6- and 7-year-olds wasn’t enough.
LykeX @ 6
On the positive side, it only took Ireland a century to lose trust in the Catholic Church.
Not today, certainly. But it can’t go on forever.
@reitpluim #4: It’s not most Americans. Polls show consistently high levels of support for various gun control measures that somehow are never passed. That may be a reflection of where most of the money is, and it might also reflect the degree of passion on each side. But, from what I can see, that momentum is changing.
let’s look at a headline from this recent school shooting and from the ceo shooting:
“Teacher, student dead in shooting at Abundant Life Christian School”
vs
“Gunman at large after UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot in ‘brazen targeted attack,’ police say”
“dead” vs “fatally shot”
“shooting” vs “brazen targeted attack”
a teacher and a student are killed by an armed gunman: meh
a ceo is killed by an armed gunman: OMG!!!!!111!!!1!1
“No way to prevent this tragedy, says only nation where it’s a regular occurrence.”
https://theonion.com/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this-r-1819576527/
@10, 2 Yeah, shoot ONE CEO and there is endless speculation for days as to Why The Shooter Did It. A kid guns down other kids and adults in a school? No way to know what caused it and even less interest in finding out.
The only thing missing was “shots fired”, apparently by themselves.
@ 4 I’ve been saying that for years.
At some point, I am going to rework the Pied Piper of Hamlin as a guns and kids story. Especially the part where the piper asks for payment and when refused, takes the kids instead. Except in the original, the townspeople liked money more than their kids.
@13 silverhalide I love this idea. You could have the piper turn up every day and nab a few kids. And everyone is surprised and sorrowful every time. Get the prayer thing in there by having them all disappear from a church.
@stuffin #7:
And I thought the same after Columbine. In ten years’ time someone else will be thinking the same about 2034’s largest school massacre.
(Well, assuming there are any schools left by then, rather than Trumpian indoctrination camps ‘protected’ by razor wire fences and
armed guardssecurity educators.)@14 I was thinking more along the lines of bagpipes playing funeral dirges at a mass shooting event
……..,………… Abundant Life……..
there is a point to being aware of this, for those of us with the fortitude. somebody has to actually care what happened to those kids, right? ok, literally nobody does, but on principle. to acknowledge the life that was lost, just, feel something for a moment? not feeling much because we’re all desensitized as hell in murderclown states of whatever, but to feel something, for a second, because the ghoulish fuckoes that run the world never will.
GAS, hopefully “somebody has to actually care what happened to those kids” includes the shooter.
acroyear: There are no rules and no limits to whom the loony right can blame for anything. They can, and will, blame all of the things you just said they can’t blame, plus maybe everyone who publicly criticized any unscrupulous CEOs lately.
“female shooter”.
Stand by for claims she must have been trans because this is “male pattern violence”.
It’s almost like there’s a downside to a culture that celebrates solving problems by blowing people’s heads off, even on “the left”. What a surprise. Couldn’t see that coming.
microraptor@11
reminds me of a classic Simpson’s episode where Homer’s parents were seeing a child psychologist about their inability to control him. His father complains that,
“We’ve tried nothing, man, and we’re all out of ideas!”
This sobering news from Scientific American: “Guns Now Kill More Children and Young Adults Than Car Crashes”
robro, that’s dated May 5, 2022. Not news.
Yeah, that’s nowhere near enough the threshold where it becomes anything beyond regional news.
May I recommend this year’s BBC Reith lectures delivered by forensic psychologist Dr Gwen Adshead: Four Questions about Violence.
They’re on World Service.
You may, submoron.
(Gwen has questions!)
Thanks John Morales. She makes a lot of sense.
I’m sure it’s all very psychological.
So, sure, go ahead and recommend it.
Theodore Dalrymple (Anthony Daniels) had thoughts about that, too.
He made a lot of sense, too.
John Morales. “(Gwen has questions!)” Do you mean that her views are questionable? I understood her to take the view that individuals are not inherently evil, to question their motives to attack punitive approaches and advocate rehabilitation.
@Larry #21, It was Ned Flander’s parents.
It is spot-on with regard to American politicians’ attitude to control gun violence.
Another day, another school shooting in the United States of America.. The only place on Earth where this happens on a weekly if not daily basis.
Who’d want to be a schoolkid in the USoA ? Who’d want toraise and educate kids there – bad enough and then some before and now you’ve got Trump’s fascist fully unleashed and unchecked second (& likely indefinitely continuing) term ahead of you.
A certain old song lyric from Bob Dylan about “the worst fear that can ever be hurled” is echoing in my mind right now.
How truly, deeply, depressing. Like the world in general pretty much around now..
^ Sigh. Guess yáll can tell where the italics were meant to end..
It would be interesting studying the media outrage/political reaction of the school shooting with that of the CEO murder.
In New York the governor is setting up a hotline for CEOs who feel threatened. It did not take long.
It’s interesting that when you look up school shootings in Canada on Wikipedia one of the few entries is for the University of Alberta in 2012. But in that case an armoured truck guard shot and killed 3 of his fellow crew members and severely wounded a fourth, as part of a robbery. Heavily in debt he decided to steal money while they were servicing ATMs, and picked one on the UofA because the service call was late at night with no one around.
Raging Bee @ 19
They have blamed forest fires on Jewish space lasers. They have blamed hurricanes on a Democratic government. Right now they are blaming lights in the sky on the government.
They abolished literally a ton of regulations. Then, when an under-crewed train derailed they blamed Biden.
They are both blaming Biden for grocery prices and saying it is very difficult for the government to reduce prices.
They are saying immigrant murders during the past 40 years all happened the last year.
@12 SteveoR wrote: The only place on Earth where this happens on a weekly if not daily basis.
I reply: Sadly, you are so close to correct about the daily basis. We are at day 351 and there have been 323 school shootings this year. Again, sadly, I’m sure it will get very close to one per day before the end of the year.
Human beings prove themselves to be generally so violent and destructive. Welcome to the new Dark Ages
Its worse than that, because you (usually) can’t shoot up a school on a weekend (or a holiday or summer vacation).
All in all there are only about 180 school days in a year. With those same numbers, we’re actually closing on 2 shootings per day…
I eventually found the Wisconsin news buried deep in the news websites in Canada.
Today one of the most-read stories at Radio Canada is a report about kids finding a gun in the woods near their school and reporting it to police. The authorities are giving the kids support for dealing with this troubling discovery. It may have been the murder weapon in a recent murder (recent meaning a month ago).
I hope the US eventually gets to writing stories like that.
@39 numerobis wrote: I hope the US eventually gets to writing stories like that.
I reply: I do, too. However, the mainslime media here would just ignore the positive and sensationalize it to the maximum. And, kids here are so jaded, most of them consider guns a fun thing to play with. (NO, I’m not being pessimistic, that is the reality.)
Elon Musk’s wealth recently surpassed $400 billion. His goal: to be the first trillionaire. The NRA has managed to put over 400 million guns in American hands. Its goal: a billion guns. How many more will die? No one knows or cares.
No. I mean you told me she has questions.
Specifically, Four Questions about Violence.
Surely she is very enlightened.
Thanks John Morales. Just self doubt on my part.
No worries.
Me, I’m pretty violence is inherent in us apes.
How and when it’s triggered may differ, temperaments may differ, but it’s not something imposed on us.
As for evil, well… that’s why my reference to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Dalrymple.
He’s quite direct.
Are the lives of our children sufficiently precious as to justify a government program that tries to reduce the future possibility of mass-shootings by involuntarily euthanizing those who have demonstrated histories of being the worst of society’s scum?