When will Twitter and Facebook get around to banning this guy? Isn’t it bad enough that he has his sycophants at Fox News broadcasting his garbage everywhere?
Watch this excerpt (starting at around the 12 minute mark) in which Trump opines on why we need to open the schools, after a rant from one of the Fox & Friends morons declares that the threat of closing schools is political extortion.
Once again, we get Trump’s wishful thinking, this thing is going away it will go away like things go away
, whatever that means. The numbers are going up, not down. He claimed that the virus would go away over the summer, because the sun would kill it; now he doesn’t seem to care that we’re heading into fall, and that we’re planning to pack people into classrooms again.
children are almost — and I would almost say definitely — almost immune from this disease…they have much stronger immune systems than we do somehow for this…they don’t have a problem, they just don’t have a problem
. Jebus. No. They’re also at risk, but also kids aren’t isolated. Even if he were correct (he isn’t), doesn’t he see the problem with hundreds of thousands of asymptomatic disease carriers scurrying about, infecting parents and grandparents and teachers and random people they bounce off of? (Grandparents and teachers…this is getting personal for me.)
He claims I’ve watched some doctors say they’re totally immune
. Name them. They need to be censured as badly as the President of the United States. Also, his magaphone, Fox News, needs to be smashed.
Honestly, the only version of, “We need to open them.”, I kind of think is maybe valid is one doctor who commented on it by saying that we know there are clear developmental and social effects to isolating kids from each other, and failing to give them the sort of interaction they would otherwise have, if they where going to school.
Mind, I don’t think that the “school experience” is at all optimal, but.. it is may be a valid point that something is lost in the existing “solutions”.
Otherwise.. the rest is just freaking stupidity, not the least due to the fact that some level of isolation would need to exist between staff and students, due purely to the fact that the staff or more vulnerable. And, Trump doesn’t seem to give a F about the staff.
.1. We already know that children are highly susceptible to the Covid-19 virus.
.2. We already know that children are very good at spreading the Covid-19 virus.
The real danger in reopening the schools isn’t that the children will get Covid-19 virus.
They will and that is bad enough.
They will then go home and spread it to everyone they come in contact with including their siblings, parents, and older adults.
In Wuhan China, 70-80% of transmission was intrafamily.
The same pattern was seen in northern Italy.
The same pattern is starting to be seen in the USA.
Try to quarantine an infected six year old away from the rest of the family, and see how well that works.
It won’t work unless everyone moves out except one adult who puts on full PPE gear full time.
In the USA, the pandemic cases are getting younger and younger.
In my local area, on any given day children 0-19 are around 20-25% of the cases.
They aren’t going to be reopening the schools.
Why bother, when they know they will soon have to close them again.
ANTI-MASKERS: “Children… have much stronger immune systems”, so we can open schools
Also ANTI MASKERS: Wearing a mask prevents god’s beautiful immune system from learning how to fight disease
Wouldn’t this logic mean adults not children would have the stronger immune system? Adults have lived longer and been exposed to more diseases. Seems like a bit of a paradox to me.
“I’ve watched some doctors say they’re totally immune”. Name them
Dr. Stella Immanuel?
Dr. Didier Raoult?
I know that what he says gets repeated and I know that the magots clearly believe him and the political hacks are eagerly complying, Which is bad enough but what I want to know is his credibility increasing, staying the same or shrinking?
For me he has none. I saw a question about where he got his information about the explosion in Beirut? answer he just made it up.
uncle frogy
It’s just bad grammar (not surprising), specifically an indefinite antecedant. What is the “this” in “this thing is going away”? The lazy assumption is that “this” means “the pandemic.” That ignores the speaker’s megalomania. In full context, “civilization is going away (and that’s good for me because I thrive on chaos and have superior initial resources, plus I’m the one in charge of the black helicopters at least for now and if civilization goes away I get to keep them).”
@unclefrogy
Of course he did, making things up (“I’m a successful businessman, the best”) is more or less his entire modus operandi.
He’s just one of those crazed guys walking down the street mumbling to himself, except for some reason he’s accumulated millions of devout followers.
He’s just one of those crazed guys walking down the street mumbling to himself, except for some reason he’s accumulated millions of devout followers.
This does not reflect well on the rest of the Republican Rarty nor on the Democratic Party.
I recently went to see my doctor for what I thought was allergic asthma — shortness of breath, lethargy, (as well as some odd digestive symptoms.) Guess what? I have Covid antibodies. That explains the last two months of gasping for air while exercising. There were times when I just had to sit down during a long walk. The symptoms coincided with grass pollen season which is always a bad time for me outdoors. I’ve been so very scrupulous about social distancing, hand washing and all the rest that I simply didn’t put two-and-two together. Seems kind of dumb in hindsight. The really odd part of the illness is its cyclical nature. A few days of feeling fine and then, wham!, gasping like a landed trout. I guess I should be grateful. Especially at my age. The symptoms, though bad at times, did not require hospitalization. And my wife? She had a sore throat for a few days and that was it. Not really worth mentioning. Which also added to my sense that this was nothing more than a response to allergens.
The lesson is that if I can contract this illness, after all of my precautions, anyone can.
Meanwhile Dr Fauci has received death threats .
“I wouldn’t have imagined in my wildest dreams that people who object to things that are pure public health principles are so set against it and don’t like what you and I say, namely in the world of science, that they actually threaten you,” said Fauci.
Can it get any more barking than that?
@10
it will be nice when testing will be simple, routine and readily available so it does not have to be subjective guess work about what symptoms are symptoms and of what for most “ailments” we are subject to.
uncle frogy
That really is deeply unfair to those crazed guys walking down the street mumbling to themselves!
Well, sanity most certainly has departed the White House. Trump announced that he believes that Joe Biden wants everyone’s guns, religion and wants to kill God.
He never fails to amaze me in his bald faced proclamations of rectally procured facts.
@R.L. Foster.
Your experience with Covid-19 is so typical, it even has a name now. Long Haulers.
I’ve seen the same thing.
Friend had Covid-19 in April.
It is now August, and she still isn’t well, breathing and fatigue problems.
The Australian Federal Government has been adamant that children are not at risk of COVID-19, and I’m pretty certain this position is based on early data, where:
1. The disease was usually in travellers, especially those from cruise ships (ie older australians)
2. Early testing for COVID-19 was performed only on those with symptoms, therefore the (usually) asymptomatic carriers that are children weren’t picked up
It’s also possible there’s a belief that COVID’s coming whatever our health measures, why not innoculate through infection those at less risk, ie, children, and their usually under-50-year-old parents, working towards that discredited “herd immunity” strategy
mcgeekan@16–
Not true. Please don’t spread misinformation.
https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/2020/07/coronavirus-covid-19-and-children_0.pdf
@16 mcgeekan
Yeah numb-nuts and just send grandma and grandpa to the grave. FUCK YO*U.
Pretty sure mcgeekan wasn’t advocating for that strategy Ray.
That said, much to my relief the government here in second wave Victoria has closed all the schools. Even my daughter’s in a rural town with no active cases.
Yeah, I don’t think mcgeekan was supporting the position. My objection was to him ascribing the position to the Australian government, which is not true and never has been.